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		<title>HydraFabber</title>
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		<updated>2013-08-27T15:21:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;See description of HydraFabber in this video - &lt;br /&gt;
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HydraFabber - after [[HydraRaptor]] - is a portable, multi-headed CNC fabrication machine that can do 3D printing, circuit milling, and laser cutting. It is intended to be a portable machine that can be brought to [[OSE Design Sprint]]s for prototyping. During the sprints, we design machines in [[Sketchup]], and  then prototype them by printing out modular parts with a [[3d_printer|3D printer]] and [[Laser_cutter|laser cutter]]. The laser cutter cuts out flat sheets that are folded to make 3D beams and other parts, and these beams form 3D frames and other 3D parts. Then the [[CNC_Machine|circuit mill]] functionality can be used to prototype [[Circuit_boards|circuit boards]], such as controllers for automated machines.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Please coordinate between [[John Log]], [[Leo Log]], [[Tim Boyd]], and [[Nate Log]] - all work related to [[HydraFabber]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Specifications=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Functional Spec==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 200x200x120mm mininimum build volume&lt;br /&gt;
* Quick change heads with accurate repeatable alignment&lt;br /&gt;
* Complete system includes robust carry case&lt;br /&gt;
* At most 10 minutes for a competent user to set up or prepare for travel&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Printer&lt;br /&gt;
** One material at a time&lt;br /&gt;
** heated bed to at least 140C&lt;br /&gt;
** reliable extruder&lt;br /&gt;
** hot end to at least 245C&lt;br /&gt;
** Glass print surface for flatness&lt;br /&gt;
*** Optional tape over glass for ABS adhesion&lt;br /&gt;
** Fan to cool print&lt;br /&gt;
** at least 60mm/s practical print speed (more is better)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Laser&lt;br /&gt;
** 1.5W laser cutter diode&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Circuit mill&lt;br /&gt;
** depth of cut control relative to surface of PCB&lt;br /&gt;
** easy tool change&lt;br /&gt;
** effective quick change PCB holddown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Folds up into a portable suitcase so it can be brought to design sprints and other events&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Functional Spec Questions===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;General Comment: study of open source industry standards is our best bet. It appears the 3D printer part is all go. Shapeoko has sold 1500 of their routers - so let&#039;s assume they work well enough. Search for laser diode paper cutters on the web. Combine RepRap, Shapeoko - and come up with a design. I could foresee that the Router Module is just 2 reinforcement plates for the sides of the machine to provide rigidity. Perhaps use Shapeoko as base, add a 3D printer head or laser diode head to convert to the other 2 functions? Then we have structure all worked out. Does Shapeoko appear to get us the right accuracy?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Is 1.5w optimum? &#039;&#039;&#039;See discussion at [[SLS_Wax_Printer]]. Requirement is anything that cuts paper.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What wavelength? &#039;&#039;&#039;That which cuts paper, may have to work with black paper&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What laser radiation safety measures (1.5w is plenty to blind)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Good question. Let&#039;s research industry standards&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Fixed laser + moving optics or moving laser? &#039;&#039;&#039;Replacement for extruder head on the triple machine&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;Need to look at specs of laser diode or other projects&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How accurate do we need to be for circuit milling?&#039;&#039;&#039;Same performance as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What is our target track pitch? &#039;&#039;&#039;What is this&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Are we aiming for through hole or SMT? If SMT, then how small (just SOICs or QFNs and BGAs)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Same as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Is a Dremel-type spindle good enough? &#039;&#039;&#039;Appears so&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Noise? &#039;&#039;&#039;What kind of noise?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Speed (RPM)? &#039;&#039;&#039;5,000 - 35,000&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Accuracy (TIR)? &lt;br /&gt;
** Mass - is it too heavy? &lt;br /&gt;
** Size - is it too big? &#039;&#039;&#039;No.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Are there any reasonable off the shelf alternatives to the dremmel? &#039;&#039;&#039;Don&#039;t know. First prototype with dremel appears sound. Based on Shapeoko.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How hard/expensive would it be to make a good small open source spindle? &#039;&#039;&#039;I wouldn&#039;t worry about it in the first iteration.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;See Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What cutting forces are we going to get? &#039;&#039;&#039;I would say 2 lbs of force&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How do we hold down the PCB? &#039;&#039;&#039;Paper Clamps in first version?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Will the dust from the PCB milling interfere with the 3D printing? &#039;&#039;&#039;We will have to get data on that.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Process=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Quick Route to Functional Prototype ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Almost any RepRap will fulfil the printer part of the functional spec. The need for quick-change heads without recalibration requires a new head mount that will position the head very repeatably each time it&#039;s mounted. A kinematic mount is under development for this purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://github.com/leodearden/kinematic-mount&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-03.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-04.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-05.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The more rigid RepRap the better. A Mendel90, MendelMax, ORD Bot, or TAZ would be particularly suitable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Complete design process ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start with Window 7, presentation page 2 - concept design.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Do [[Systems Engineering Breakdown Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Software &lt;br /&gt;
** CAD&lt;br /&gt;
** CAM/slicing&lt;br /&gt;
** Device control&lt;br /&gt;
** firmware&lt;br /&gt;
* Control Electronics&lt;br /&gt;
** Embedded microcontroller&lt;br /&gt;
** I/O&lt;br /&gt;
*** motor drivers&lt;br /&gt;
*** high current digital drivers (fans, heaters, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
*** digital inputs (eg: limit switches)&lt;br /&gt;
*** analog inputs (eg: thermistors)&lt;br /&gt;
* 3 axis positioning robot&lt;br /&gt;
** X&lt;br /&gt;
** Y&lt;br /&gt;
** Z&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change head mount&lt;br /&gt;
*** mechanical&lt;br /&gt;
*** electrical/electronic&lt;br /&gt;
**** ID for head available to controller&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change bed (reversible?)&lt;br /&gt;
** fold down mechanism&lt;br /&gt;
* heads&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
* beds&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Diagram to follow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Potentially do an interface design that shows how modules fit together&lt;br /&gt;
#Then embed the original i3 RepRap STL via an [[STL Viewer]] in the wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Printer Reliability=&lt;br /&gt;
*Leo&#039;s RepRap Kit had at best 4/5 print success on 8 hour overnight prints. Drift in mechanical calibration, failure of print adhesion, nozzle blockage, filament feed slip, and filament spool tangles are the main cause of failures in long prints.&lt;br /&gt;
*For short prints, once print parameters are established for a particular object for a particular printer with a particular material. Once you are dialed in, ~1% failure rate for prints of 1 hour. This is for unambitious - ie, safe zone - prints. Wall thickness safe, fairly thick layers, not too fast, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Links=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CNC Circuit Mill Spindle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leo Dearden]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Opencreators Korean printer - [http://cafe.naver.com/makerfac]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Suitcase 3D Printer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lulzbot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[RepRap Kit]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[RepRap Prusa i3|http://reprap.org/wiki/Prusa_i3]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40id30dChnU pursa mendel laser]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=HydraFabber&amp;diff=105425</id>
		<title>HydraFabber</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=HydraFabber&amp;diff=105425"/>
		<updated>2013-08-27T15:19:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;See description of HydraFabber in this video - &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&amp;lt;iframe width=&amp;quot;560&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;315&amp;quot; src=&amp;quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed//EXau4L6Ghk8&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; allowfullscreen&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HydraFabber - after [[HydraRaptor]] - is a portable, multi-headed CNC fabrication machine that can do 3D printing, circuit milling, and laser cutting. It is intended to be a portable machine that can be brought to [[OSE Design Sprint]]s for prototyping. During the sprints, we design machines in Sketchup, and  then prototype them by printing out modular parts with a [[3d_printer|3D printer]] and [[Laser_cutter|laser cutter]]. The laser cutter cuts out flat sheets that are folded to make 3D beams and other parts, and these beams form 3D frames and other 3D parts. Then the [[CNC_Machine|circuit mill]] functionality can be used to prototype [[Circuit_boards|circuit boards]], such as controllers for automated machines.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Please coordinate between [[John Log]], [[Leo Log]], [[Tim Boyd]], and [[Nate Log]] - all work related to [[HydraFabber]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Specifications=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Functional Spec==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 200x200x120mm mininimum build volume&lt;br /&gt;
* Quick change heads with accurate repeatable alignment&lt;br /&gt;
* Complete system includes robust carry case&lt;br /&gt;
* At most 10 minutes for a competent user to set up or prepare for travel&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Printer&lt;br /&gt;
** One material at a time&lt;br /&gt;
** heated bed to at least 140C&lt;br /&gt;
** reliable extruder&lt;br /&gt;
** hot end to at least 245C&lt;br /&gt;
** Glass print surface for flatness&lt;br /&gt;
*** Optional tape over glass for ABS adhesion&lt;br /&gt;
** Fan to cool print&lt;br /&gt;
** at least 60mm/s practical print speed (more is better)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Laser&lt;br /&gt;
** 1.5W laser cutter diode&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Circuit mill&lt;br /&gt;
** depth of cut control relative to surface of PCB&lt;br /&gt;
** easy tool change&lt;br /&gt;
** effective quick change PCB holddown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Folds up into a portable suitcase so it can be brought to design sprints and other events&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Functional Spec Questions===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;General Comment: study of open source industry standards is our best bet. It appears the 3D printer part is all go. Shapeoko has sold 1500 of their routers - so let&#039;s assume they work well enough. Search for laser diode paper cutters on the web. Combine RepRap, Shapeoko - and come up with a design. I could foresee that the Router Module is just 2 reinforcement plates for the sides of the machine to provide rigidity. Perhaps use Shapeoko as base, add a 3D printer head or laser diode head to convert to the other 2 functions? Then we have structure all worked out. Does Shapeoko appear to get us the right accuracy?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Is 1.5w optimum? &#039;&#039;&#039;See discussion at [[SLS_Wax_Printer]]. Requirement is anything that cuts paper.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What wavelength? &#039;&#039;&#039;That which cuts paper, may have to work with black paper&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What laser radiation safety measures (1.5w is plenty to blind)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Good question. Let&#039;s research industry standards&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Fixed laser + moving optics or moving laser? &#039;&#039;&#039;Replacement for extruder head on the triple machine&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;Need to look at specs of laser diode or other projects&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How accurate do we need to be for circuit milling?&#039;&#039;&#039;Same performance as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What is our target track pitch? &#039;&#039;&#039;What is this&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Are we aiming for through hole or SMT? If SMT, then how small (just SOICs or QFNs and BGAs)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Same as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Is a Dremel-type spindle good enough? &#039;&#039;&#039;Appears so&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Noise? &#039;&#039;&#039;What kind of noise?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Speed (RPM)? &#039;&#039;&#039;5,000 - 35,000&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Accuracy (TIR)? &lt;br /&gt;
** Mass - is it too heavy? &lt;br /&gt;
** Size - is it too big? &#039;&#039;&#039;No.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Are there any reasonable off the shelf alternatives to the dremmel? &#039;&#039;&#039;Don&#039;t know. First prototype with dremel appears sound. Based on Shapeoko.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How hard/expensive would it be to make a good small open source spindle? &#039;&#039;&#039;I wouldn&#039;t worry about it in the first iteration.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;See Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What cutting forces are we going to get? &#039;&#039;&#039;I would say 2 lbs of force&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How do we hold down the PCB? &#039;&#039;&#039;Paper Clamps in first version?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Will the dust from the PCB milling interfere with the 3D printing? &#039;&#039;&#039;We will have to get data on that.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Process=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Quick Route to Functional Prototype ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Almost any RepRap will fulfil the printer part of the functional spec. The need for quick-change heads without recalibration requires a new head mount that will position the head very repeatably each time it&#039;s mounted. A kinematic mount is under development for this purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://github.com/leodearden/kinematic-mount&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-03.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-04.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-05.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The more rigid RepRap the better. A Mendel90, MendelMax, ORD Bot, or TAZ would be particularly suitable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Complete design process ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start with Window 7, presentation page 2 - concept design.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Do [[Systems Engineering Breakdown Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Software &lt;br /&gt;
** CAD&lt;br /&gt;
** CAM/slicing&lt;br /&gt;
** Device control&lt;br /&gt;
** firmware&lt;br /&gt;
* Control Electronics&lt;br /&gt;
** Embedded microcontroller&lt;br /&gt;
** I/O&lt;br /&gt;
*** motor drivers&lt;br /&gt;
*** high current digital drivers (fans, heaters, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
*** digital inputs (eg: limit switches)&lt;br /&gt;
*** analog inputs (eg: thermistors)&lt;br /&gt;
* 3 axis positioning robot&lt;br /&gt;
** X&lt;br /&gt;
** Y&lt;br /&gt;
** Z&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change head mount&lt;br /&gt;
*** mechanical&lt;br /&gt;
*** electrical/electronic&lt;br /&gt;
**** ID for head available to controller&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change bed (reversible?)&lt;br /&gt;
** fold down mechanism&lt;br /&gt;
* heads&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
* beds&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Diagram to follow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Potentially do an interface design that shows how modules fit together&lt;br /&gt;
#Then embed the original i3 RepRap STL via an [[STL Viewer]] in the wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Printer Reliability=&lt;br /&gt;
*Leo&#039;s RepRap Kit had at best 4/5 print success on 8 hour overnight prints. Drift in mechanical calibration, failure of print adhesion, nozzle blockage, filament feed slip, and filament spool tangles are the main cause of failures in long prints.&lt;br /&gt;
*For short prints, once print parameters are established for a particular object for a particular printer with a particular material. Once you are dialed in, ~1% failure rate for prints of 1 hour. This is for unambitious - ie, safe zone - prints. Wall thickness safe, fairly thick layers, not too fast, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Links=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CNC Circuit Mill Spindle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leo Dearden]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Opencreators Korean printer - [http://cafe.naver.com/makerfac]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Suitcase 3D Printer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lulzbot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[RepRap Kit]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[RepRap Prusa i3|http://reprap.org/wiki/Prusa_i3]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40id30dChnU pursa mendel laser]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=HydraFabber&amp;diff=105424</id>
		<title>HydraFabber</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=HydraFabber&amp;diff=105424"/>
		<updated>2013-08-27T15:19:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;See description of HydraFabber in this video - &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&amp;lt;iframe width=&amp;quot;560&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;315&amp;quot; src=&amp;quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed//EXau4L6Ghk8&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; allowfullscreen&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HydraFabber - after [[HydraRaptor]] - is a portable, multi-headed CNC fabrication machine that can do 3D printing, circuit milling, and laser cutting. It is intended to be a portable machine that can be brought to [[OSE Design Sprint]]s for prototyping. During the sprints, we design machines in Sketchup, and  then prototype them by printing out modular parts with a [[3d_printer 3D printer]] and [[Laser_cutter|laser cutter]]. The laser cutter cuts out flat sheets that are folded to make 3D beams and other parts, and these beams form 3D frames and other 3D parts. Then the [[CNC_Machine|circuit mill]] functionality can be used to prototype [[Circuit_boards|circuit boards]], such as controllers for automated machines.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Please coordinate between [[John Log]], [[Leo Log]], [[Tim Boyd]], and [[Nate Log]] - all work related to [[HydraFabber]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Specifications=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Functional Spec==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 200x200x120mm mininimum build volume&lt;br /&gt;
* Quick change heads with accurate repeatable alignment&lt;br /&gt;
* Complete system includes robust carry case&lt;br /&gt;
* At most 10 minutes for a competent user to set up or prepare for travel&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Printer&lt;br /&gt;
** One material at a time&lt;br /&gt;
** heated bed to at least 140C&lt;br /&gt;
** reliable extruder&lt;br /&gt;
** hot end to at least 245C&lt;br /&gt;
** Glass print surface for flatness&lt;br /&gt;
*** Optional tape over glass for ABS adhesion&lt;br /&gt;
** Fan to cool print&lt;br /&gt;
** at least 60mm/s practical print speed (more is better)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Laser&lt;br /&gt;
** 1.5W laser cutter diode&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Circuit mill&lt;br /&gt;
** depth of cut control relative to surface of PCB&lt;br /&gt;
** easy tool change&lt;br /&gt;
** effective quick change PCB holddown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Folds up into a portable suitcase so it can be brought to design sprints and other events&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Functional Spec Questions===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;General Comment: study of open source industry standards is our best bet. It appears the 3D printer part is all go. Shapeoko has sold 1500 of their routers - so let&#039;s assume they work well enough. Search for laser diode paper cutters on the web. Combine RepRap, Shapeoko - and come up with a design. I could foresee that the Router Module is just 2 reinforcement plates for the sides of the machine to provide rigidity. Perhaps use Shapeoko as base, add a 3D printer head or laser diode head to convert to the other 2 functions? Then we have structure all worked out. Does Shapeoko appear to get us the right accuracy?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Is 1.5w optimum? &#039;&#039;&#039;See discussion at [[SLS_Wax_Printer]]. Requirement is anything that cuts paper.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What wavelength? &#039;&#039;&#039;That which cuts paper, may have to work with black paper&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What laser radiation safety measures (1.5w is plenty to blind)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Good question. Let&#039;s research industry standards&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Fixed laser + moving optics or moving laser? &#039;&#039;&#039;Replacement for extruder head on the triple machine&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;Need to look at specs of laser diode or other projects&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How accurate do we need to be for circuit milling?&#039;&#039;&#039;Same performance as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What is our target track pitch? &#039;&#039;&#039;What is this&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Are we aiming for through hole or SMT? If SMT, then how small (just SOICs or QFNs and BGAs)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Same as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Is a Dremel-type spindle good enough? &#039;&#039;&#039;Appears so&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Noise? &#039;&#039;&#039;What kind of noise?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Speed (RPM)? &#039;&#039;&#039;5,000 - 35,000&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Accuracy (TIR)? &lt;br /&gt;
** Mass - is it too heavy? &lt;br /&gt;
** Size - is it too big? &#039;&#039;&#039;No.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Are there any reasonable off the shelf alternatives to the dremmel? &#039;&#039;&#039;Don&#039;t know. First prototype with dremel appears sound. Based on Shapeoko.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How hard/expensive would it be to make a good small open source spindle? &#039;&#039;&#039;I wouldn&#039;t worry about it in the first iteration.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;See Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What cutting forces are we going to get? &#039;&#039;&#039;I would say 2 lbs of force&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How do we hold down the PCB? &#039;&#039;&#039;Paper Clamps in first version?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Will the dust from the PCB milling interfere with the 3D printing? &#039;&#039;&#039;We will have to get data on that.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Process=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Quick Route to Functional Prototype ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Almost any RepRap will fulfil the printer part of the functional spec. The need for quick-change heads without recalibration requires a new head mount that will position the head very repeatably each time it&#039;s mounted. A kinematic mount is under development for this purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://github.com/leodearden/kinematic-mount&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-03.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-04.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-05.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The more rigid RepRap the better. A Mendel90, MendelMax, ORD Bot, or TAZ would be particularly suitable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Complete design process ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start with Window 7, presentation page 2 - concept design.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Do [[Systems Engineering Breakdown Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Software &lt;br /&gt;
** CAD&lt;br /&gt;
** CAM/slicing&lt;br /&gt;
** Device control&lt;br /&gt;
** firmware&lt;br /&gt;
* Control Electronics&lt;br /&gt;
** Embedded microcontroller&lt;br /&gt;
** I/O&lt;br /&gt;
*** motor drivers&lt;br /&gt;
*** high current digital drivers (fans, heaters, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
*** digital inputs (eg: limit switches)&lt;br /&gt;
*** analog inputs (eg: thermistors)&lt;br /&gt;
* 3 axis positioning robot&lt;br /&gt;
** X&lt;br /&gt;
** Y&lt;br /&gt;
** Z&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change head mount&lt;br /&gt;
*** mechanical&lt;br /&gt;
*** electrical/electronic&lt;br /&gt;
**** ID for head available to controller&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change bed (reversible?)&lt;br /&gt;
** fold down mechanism&lt;br /&gt;
* heads&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
* beds&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Diagram to follow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Potentially do an interface design that shows how modules fit together&lt;br /&gt;
#Then embed the original i3 RepRap STL via an [[STL Viewer]] in the wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Printer Reliability=&lt;br /&gt;
*Leo&#039;s RepRap Kit had at best 4/5 print success on 8 hour overnight prints. Drift in mechanical calibration, failure of print adhesion, nozzle blockage, filament feed slip, and filament spool tangles are the main cause of failures in long prints.&lt;br /&gt;
*For short prints, once print parameters are established for a particular object for a particular printer with a particular material. Once you are dialed in, ~1% failure rate for prints of 1 hour. This is for unambitious - ie, safe zone - prints. Wall thickness safe, fairly thick layers, not too fast, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Links=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CNC Circuit Mill Spindle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leo Dearden]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Opencreators Korean printer - [http://cafe.naver.com/makerfac]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Suitcase 3D Printer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lulzbot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[RepRap Kit]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[RepRap Prusa i3|http://reprap.org/wiki/Prusa_i3]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40id30dChnU pursa mendel laser]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=HydraFabber&amp;diff=105420</id>
		<title>HydraFabber</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=HydraFabber&amp;diff=105420"/>
		<updated>2013-08-27T14:22:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;See description of HydraFabber in this video - &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&amp;lt;iframe width=&amp;quot;560&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;315&amp;quot; src=&amp;quot;https://www.youtube.com/embed//EXau4L6Ghk8&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; allowfullscreen&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
HydraFabber - after [[HydraRaptor]] - is a portable, multi-headed CNC fabrication machine that can do 3D printing, circuit milling, and laser cutting. It is intended to be a portable machine that can be brought to [[OSE Design Sprint]]s for prototyping. During the sprints, we design machines in Sketchup, and  then prototype them by printing out modular parts with a [http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/3d_printer 3D printer] and [http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Laser_cutter laser cutter]. The laser cutter cuts out flat sheets that are folded to make 3D beams and other parts, and these beams form 3D frames and other 3D parts. Then the [http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/CNC_Machine circuit mill] functionality can be used to prototype [http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Circuit_boards circuit boards], such as controllers for automated machines.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Please coordinate between [[John Log]], [[Leo Log]], [[Tim Boyd]], and [[Nate Log]] - all work related to [[HydraFabber]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Specifications=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Functional Spec==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 200x200x120mm mininimum build volume&lt;br /&gt;
* Quick change heads with accurate repeatable alignment&lt;br /&gt;
* Complete system includes robust carry case&lt;br /&gt;
* At most 10 minutes for a competent user to set up or prepare for travel&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Printer&lt;br /&gt;
** One material at a time&lt;br /&gt;
** heated bed to at least 140C&lt;br /&gt;
** reliable extruder&lt;br /&gt;
** hot end to at least 245C&lt;br /&gt;
** Glass print surface for flatness&lt;br /&gt;
*** Optional tape over glass for ABS adhesion&lt;br /&gt;
** Fan to cool print&lt;br /&gt;
** at least 60mm/s practical print speed (more is better)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Laser&lt;br /&gt;
** 1.5W laser cutter diode&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Circuit mill&lt;br /&gt;
** depth of cut control relative to surface of PCB&lt;br /&gt;
** easy tool change&lt;br /&gt;
** effective quick change PCB holddown&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Folds up into a portable suitcase so it can be brought to design sprints and other events&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Functional Spec Questions===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;General Comment: study of open source industry standards is our best bet. It appears the 3D printer part is all go. Shapeoko has sold 1500 of their routers - so let&#039;s assume they work well enough. Search for laser diode paper cutters on the web. Combine RepRap, Shapeoko - and come up with a design. I could foresee that the Router Module is just 2 reinforcement plates for the sides of the machine to provide rigidity. Perhaps use Shapeoko as base, add a 3D printer head or laser diode head to convert to the other 2 functions? Then we have structure all worked out. Does Shapeoko appear to get us the right accuracy?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Is 1.5w optimum? &#039;&#039;&#039;See discussion at [[SLS_Wax_Printer]]. Requirement is anything that cuts paper.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What wavelength? &#039;&#039;&#039;That which cuts paper, may have to work with black paper&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What laser radiation safety measures (1.5w is plenty to blind)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Good question. Let&#039;s research industry standards&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Fixed laser + moving optics or moving laser? &#039;&#039;&#039;Replacement for extruder head on the triple machine&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;Need to look at specs of laser diode or other projects&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How accurate do we need to be for circuit milling?&#039;&#039;&#039;Same performance as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What is our target track pitch? &#039;&#039;&#039;What is this&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Are we aiming for through hole or SMT? If SMT, then how small (just SOICs or QFNs and BGAs)? &#039;&#039;&#039;Same as Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Is a Dremel-type spindle good enough? &#039;&#039;&#039;Appears so&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Noise? &#039;&#039;&#039;What kind of noise?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Speed (RPM)? &#039;&#039;&#039;5,000 - 35,000&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Accuracy (TIR)? &lt;br /&gt;
** Mass - is it too heavy? &lt;br /&gt;
** Size - is it too big? &#039;&#039;&#039;No.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Are there any reasonable off the shelf alternatives to the dremmel? &#039;&#039;&#039;Don&#039;t know. First prototype with dremel appears sound. Based on Shapeoko.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How hard/expensive would it be to make a good small open source spindle? &#039;&#039;&#039;I wouldn&#039;t worry about it in the first iteration.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What feed rates would be ideal? &#039;&#039;&#039;See Shapeoko&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* What cutting forces are we going to get? &#039;&#039;&#039;I would say 2 lbs of force&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* How do we hold down the PCB? &#039;&#039;&#039;Paper Clamps in first version?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Will the dust from the PCB milling interfere with the 3D printing? &#039;&#039;&#039;We will have to get data on that.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Process=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Quick Route to Functional Prototype ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Almost any RepRap will fulfil the printer part of the functional spec. The need for quick-change heads without recalibration requires a new head mount that will position the head very repeatably each time it&#039;s mounted. A kinematic mount is under development for this purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
https://github.com/leodearden/kinematic-mount&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-03.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-04.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2013-06-09-kinematic-mount-scad-05.jpeg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The more rigid RepRap the better. A Mendel90, MendelMax, ORD Bot, or TAZ would be particularly suitable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Complete design process ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start with Window 7, presentation page 2 - concept design.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Do [[Systems Engineering Breakdown Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Software &lt;br /&gt;
** CAD&lt;br /&gt;
** CAM/slicing&lt;br /&gt;
** Device control&lt;br /&gt;
** firmware&lt;br /&gt;
* Control Electronics&lt;br /&gt;
** Embedded microcontroller&lt;br /&gt;
** I/O&lt;br /&gt;
*** motor drivers&lt;br /&gt;
*** high current digital drivers (fans, heaters, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
*** digital inputs (eg: limit switches)&lt;br /&gt;
*** analog inputs (eg: thermistors)&lt;br /&gt;
* 3 axis positioning robot&lt;br /&gt;
** X&lt;br /&gt;
** Y&lt;br /&gt;
** Z&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change head mount&lt;br /&gt;
*** mechanical&lt;br /&gt;
*** electrical/electronic&lt;br /&gt;
**** ID for head available to controller&lt;br /&gt;
** Quick change bed (reversible?)&lt;br /&gt;
** fold down mechanism&lt;br /&gt;
* heads&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
* beds&lt;br /&gt;
** print&lt;br /&gt;
** laser&lt;br /&gt;
** mill&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Diagram to follow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Potentially do an interface design that shows how modules fit together&lt;br /&gt;
#Then embed the original i3 RepRap STL via an [[STL Viewer]] in the wiki&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Printer Reliability=&lt;br /&gt;
*Leo&#039;s RepRap Kit had at best 4/5 print success on 8 hour overnight prints. Drift in mechanical calibration, failure of print adhesion, nozzle blockage, filament feed slip, and filament spool tangles are the main cause of failures in long prints.&lt;br /&gt;
*For short prints, once print parameters are established for a particular object for a particular printer with a particular material. Once you are dialed in, ~1% failure rate for prints of 1 hour. This is for unambitious - ie, safe zone - prints. Wall thickness safe, fairly thick layers, not too fast, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Links=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CNC Circuit Mill Spindle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leo Dearden]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Opencreators Korean printer - [http://cafe.naver.com/makerfac]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Suitcase 3D Printer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lulzbot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[RepRap Kit]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[RepRap Prusa i3|http://reprap.org/wiki/Prusa_i3]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40id30dChnU pursa mendel laser]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Daniel_Log&amp;diff=103762</id>
		<title>Daniel Log</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Daniel_Log&amp;diff=103762"/>
		<updated>2013-08-12T14:43:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=Sat Aug 3, 2013=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Added some modules in to the categories page for the OS Car and others as part of the design sprint that day with other collaborators.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Sat Aug 10, 2013=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Went to the hangout. I uploaded the True Fans Platform to some webspace so we could get a better look at it. It turns out that there are a few issues with it but the version on Github may be out of date. The original designer may have already fixed these issues (thumbnails in particular).&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Daniel_Log&amp;diff=103581</id>
		<title>Daniel Log</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Daniel_Log&amp;diff=103581"/>
		<updated>2013-08-10T15:16:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: Created page with &amp;quot; =Sat Aug 3, 2013=  Added some modules in to the categories page for the OS Car and others as part of the design sprint that day with other collaborators.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=Sat Aug 3, 2013=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Added some modules in to the categories page for the OS Car and others as part of the design sprint that day with other collaborators.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32714</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32714"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T17:23:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus Soapnuts]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
* Excess crops can be sold&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:P1000678.JPG|thumb|alt=Harvested Soapnuts|Harvested Soapnuts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32713</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32713"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T17:19:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus Soapnuts]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
* Excess crops can be sold for income&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:P1000678.JPG|thumb|alt=Harvested Soapnuts|Harvested Soapnuts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32712</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32712"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T17:18:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus Soapnuts]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
* Excess crops can be sold for income&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:P1000678.JPG|thumb|alt=Soapnuts picture|Soapnuts picture]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32711</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32711"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T17:18:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus Soapnuts]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
* Excess crops can be sold for income&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/File:P1000678.JPG|thumb|alt=Soapnuts picture|Soapnuts picture]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=File:P1000678.JPG&amp;diff=32710</id>
		<title>File:P1000678.JPG</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-03T17:16:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: Picture of Soapnuts, open source, image taken by uploader.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Picture of Soapnuts, open source, image taken by uploader.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Soapnuts&amp;diff=32705</id>
		<title>Talk:Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Soapnuts&amp;diff=32705"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T14:26:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: Created page with &amp;quot;==Pictures==  Will add own pics later.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Pictures==&lt;br /&gt;
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Will add own pics later.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32704</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32704"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T14:24:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus Soapnuts]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
* Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
* Excess crops can be sold for income&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32703</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32703"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T14:23:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus Soapnuts]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
Excess crops can be sold for income&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32702</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32702"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T14:21:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
Excess crops can be sold for income&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32701</id>
		<title>Soapnuts</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Soapnuts&amp;diff=32701"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T14:18:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dcottrell: Created page with &amp;quot;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:  [Soapnuts[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapin...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Soap nuts are an envirionmentally sensisitve and natural laundry detergent. A full article on Soapnuts can be found on Wikipedia at:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[Soapnuts[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapindus]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the basic facts of soapnuts are:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Have been grown and used for washing for thousands of years in India.&lt;br /&gt;
Can be grown between 60 and 75 degrees F.&lt;br /&gt;
Can be used for washing clothes, whipped for shaving, handwash, shower foam etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Totally natural and accessible&lt;br /&gt;
Excess crops can be sold for income&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dcottrell</name></author>
	</entry>
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