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		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31889</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-21T16:57:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: fixed link&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Breadcrumb|IT Infrastructure|IT team}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==WHO are you?==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name/Nationality/Ethnicity&#039;&#039; - Jeb E. Bateman, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location&#039;&#039; – Reno, NV, US&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information&#039;&#039; -&lt;br /&gt;
** Email: jebateman &#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039; gmail... Mobile/Land:  775-336-9704&lt;br /&gt;
** Skype: jeb.bateman - [http://twitter.com/OSEcology OSE Twitter] volunteer - http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039; – http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hobbies and Pastimes&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
** Parenting of Jerin, Liom, Ellarie, with my wonderful spouse Karinn&lt;br /&gt;
** Volunteer Board Member: [http://wiki.renomakerspace.org Reno Makerspace] and [http://www.uufnn.org/index.php?id=25 UUFNN]&lt;br /&gt;
** Co-chair: [http://electricnevada.org Electric Auto Association of Northern Nevada]&lt;br /&gt;
** Solar/Biomass/Hydrogen Energy systems&lt;br /&gt;
** Biking, Hiking, Off-grid cooking&lt;br /&gt;
** Farm/Garden/Permaculture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing was new and exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering; yet I have not worked in the field of product development since I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse (around the time I finished school). Instead, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some (now outdated) open source tools for web development. At the same time, I experimented with various composting and gardening projects, and then later had some interesting taxi driving experience to broaden my views. Recently, I went back for some classes in Biology, Chemistry, and Psychology thinking I might want to attempt med school - not likely at this point as the years are marching by quickly. I enjoyed filling in some knowledge gaps though!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OSE is a great project; possibly the next big thing, and I intend to help startup tiny manufacturing businesses to make useful tools with inspiration from the ideas here over time.  &#039;&#039;Also, coincidentally with Marcin&#039;s research background, my brother is currently working on a radically simplified design for fusion power - http://starpowerenergy.com&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== To Do List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Need to redo this in standard QA format sometime - or probably add QA to my talk page - I joined before we had the survey.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Review [[Friendly Organizations]] more and add link to Bridgewire - Reno Makerspace&lt;br /&gt;
* Pivotal projects for more tasks&lt;br /&gt;
** IT Maintenance - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/306629&lt;br /&gt;
** Collab Platform - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/301609&lt;br /&gt;
* Continue testing Campfire and Highrise for use in the meantime, while we attempt to build out a custom collaboration platform.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Jeb_Bateman&amp;diff=31888</id>
		<title>Jeb Bateman</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Jeb_Bateman&amp;diff=31888"/>
		<updated>2011-06-21T16:44:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: adding category&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[User:Jeb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Nikolayhg&amp;diff=31885</id>
		<title>User talk:Nikolayhg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Nikolayhg&amp;diff=31885"/>
		<updated>2011-06-21T15:35:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: example links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Hi, I had some [https://ocha.campfirenow.com/room/412089/transcript/2011/06/19 questions for you the other day in campfire] (Password protected transcript - could post a PDF here w/o files.) Basically, with all the new user accounts and team pages being created, could we organize better by redirecting Full Name pages to User pages (like [[Jeb Bateman|me]] and [[Pepe_Bawagan]]) do for example. I&#039;m also thinking of putting my 20 questions and answers under my User Talk page an an example to keep the main user page more general, and encourage further questions in the natural wiki discussion area. Thoughts? --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 08:31, 21 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
hi. i&#039;m moving [[:Category:Education_team_member]] to [[:Category:Education_team]]. it&#039;s a more appropriate category name. also doing the same for CAD :) --[[User:Syk0 saje|syk0saje]] 04:09, 4 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Nikolay: okay, then do the same also for the IT Team.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note &amp;quot;IT Team member&amp;quot; still exists too, under IT Team. Confusing... can we eliminate old categories or redirect without keeping subcategories in the IT page? --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 08:31, 21 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Hi Nikolay. I saw on [[Project needs]] you wrote that someone had been in touch with Onawi about open-source wind turbine plans. Who was in touch? Are they following up? --[[User:Conor|Conor]] 15:42, 10 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Nikolayhg&amp;diff=31884</id>
		<title>User talk:Nikolayhg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Nikolayhg&amp;diff=31884"/>
		<updated>2011-06-21T15:31:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: questions&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Hi, I had some [https://ocha.campfirenow.com/room/412089/transcript/2011/06/19 questions for you the other day in campfire] (Password protected transcript - could post a PDF here w/o files.) Basically, with all the new user accounts and team pages being created, could we organize better by redirecting Full Name pages to User pages (like me and [[User:Syk0 saje|syk0saje]]) do for example. I&#039;m also thinking of putting my 20 questions and answers under my User Talk page an an example to keep the main user page more general, and encourage further questions in the natural wiki discussion area. Thoughts? --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 08:31, 21 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
hi. i&#039;m moving [[:Category:Education_team_member]] to [[:Category:Education_team]]. it&#039;s a more appropriate category name. also doing the same for CAD :) --[[User:Syk0 saje|syk0saje]] 04:09, 4 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Nikolay: okay, then do the same also for the IT Team.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Note &amp;quot;IT Team member&amp;quot; still exists too, under IT Team. Confusing... can we eliminate old categories or redirect without keeping subcategories in the IT page? --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 08:31, 21 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hi Nikolay. I saw on [[Project needs]] you wrote that someone had been in touch with Onawi about open-source wind turbine plans. Who was in touch? Are they following up? --[[User:Conor|Conor]] 15:42, 10 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:LifeTrac&amp;diff=31785</id>
		<title>Talk:LifeTrac</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-20T18:29:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Response */ comments on old unsigned note&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;What application are you using to develop the hydraulics schematic?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the Matter of Animals vs machines. &lt;br /&gt;
Horse Performance, can be found in the Small Wars Manual of the US Marines. &lt;br /&gt;
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8218892/Small-Wars-Manual-1940-Edition&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Can perform 5 hours a day for a week, every succeeding week has continuously diminished performance. That is 25%  body weight of the Animal for 5 hours. The animal has to eat about 2-3% their body weight in quality grains and sugars, and about 8-16 gallons of water. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Animals are also used seasonally, since they need time to heal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Plow Horses, being the most efficient are not effective in Tropical Locations and Wet Farming Cereals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Digging Capacity of Prototype II&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From the picture, it looks as though the Prototype II capacity for digging below the level of the wheels (when fitted with a bucket) would be very shallow. This is due to the bucket supports being hinged at the top of the cab. Most tractors are hinged somewhere in the middle of their working travel with angled beams designed to get over their own front wheels. Bobcats on the other hand often have straight bucket supports but the hinge is high enough to clear the front wheels and the wheels are close enough together so as to not create a significant obstruction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I propose therefore that we adopt a more centralised hinge for the bucket so that its capacity is good both above and below the level of the wheels. Useful for digging and earthmoving.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Discussion moved from main page ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The point is to work on the design of the machine, having already decided that the machine is a good idea.  The following was moved from the page to the discussion section.  In addition, you cannot, or should not mount a bucketloader and backhoe on a horse!  Horses do not push or lift, they pull (as far as I know).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Horses ====&lt;br /&gt;
In terms of biofuels conversion, horses may be far more efficient than tractors.  In no-till or low-till permaculture farming with local fuel production, tractors might not make sense at all.&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2008/04/horses-agricult.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Response ====&lt;br /&gt;
One would have to do more careful, side-by-side analysis on the above. A horse, whether used or not, eats the equivalent biofuel crop for 1 gallon of liquid fuel every day. A tractor, on the other hand, eats zero gallons of fuel when it is not used.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who said that? Claim about liquid fuel equivalent needs a reference. (Doesn&#039;t sound likely as biomass to liquid fuel conversion is not a BTU-in = BTU-out operation.) --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 11:29, 20 June 2011 (PDT)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Karmic_Debt_for_OSE_Villages&amp;diff=31780</id>
		<title>Talk:Karmic Debt for OSE Villages</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Karmic_Debt_for_OSE_Villages&amp;diff=31780"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T17:33:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: comment&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Great idea Mark! I&#039;m a big fan of &amp;quot;pay it forward&amp;quot; systems like this. --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 10:33, 20 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Karmic_Debt_for_OSE_Villages&amp;diff=31779</id>
		<title>Karmic Debt for OSE Villages</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Karmic_Debt_for_OSE_Villages&amp;diff=31779"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T17:31:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Details */ fixed typo, and embedding wikipedia links in text&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=The Charge=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each OSE Village, once established is charged with helping to start a minimum of three other OSE villages by building GVCS tools or contributing in kind labor or money.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See Wikipedia on Karma.  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Details=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Creating an OSE village (see [[Resilient Community Economic Analysis]] and [[30 Person Village Startup with GVCS]]) is a major undertaking that will require (at least):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# Forming a village team&lt;br /&gt;
# Planning the village&lt;br /&gt;
# Building initial GVCS tools&lt;br /&gt;
# Acquisition of land&lt;br /&gt;
# Jump starting the village economy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any such village established by the OSE community owes a debt to those who participated in its development and launch.  Since OSE has as one of it&#039;s major goals to foster the creation of local economies based on abundance, it is proposed that this debt be re-payed not to OSE International, but paid in-kind to the creation of at least three more such villages.  This is a form of the [[wikipedia: Threefold Law]]: as I have done for you, do so onto three others. This is very much in keeping with the [[wikipedia: Potlatch|potlatch]] culture associated with open source projects.  Not altruism, but an expectation that others will benefit from the aid you have been given.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Re-paying the karmic debt might consist of:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Manufacture and donation of GVCS fabrication tools&lt;br /&gt;
* Manufacture and donation of basic GVCS life support tools (CEB Press, Tractor, Solar Concentrator, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
* On-site training and apprenticeships in GVCS technology and related skills&lt;br /&gt;
* On-site start-up labor to build houses, clear land, establish fields, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Financial support, as available&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is recognized that re-payment of the karmic debt may take a few or many years since it will take a new village many years to become self-sufficient and develop a yield that can be shared with others.  How long it takes doesn&#039;t matter.  What matters is having a mindset to help others along as you were once helped.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Benefits=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Property executed, the 3x re-payment of debt could result in an exponential growth of OSE villages.  In practice, some villages will fail, others will struggle with subsistence, and societal influence will result in some ignoring their karmic debt.  The three times repayment is selected to off-set these factors.  Attaining anything more than 1x will result in exponential growth.  How much more determines the rate of expansion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Beyond the positive material gains that could be realized, this approach acknowledges that a debt exists and provides a means for closure that leverages and fosters a post-money economy.  While re-payment in monetary terms is possible, it is more likely that in-kind contributions and donations will be within the scope of newly established OSE villages.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31778</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31778"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T17:23:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* WHO are you? */ condensed and added info&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Breadcrumb|IT Infrastructure|IT team}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==WHO are you?==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name/Nationality/Ethnicity&#039;&#039; - Jeb E. Bateman, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location&#039;&#039; – Reno, NV, US&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information&#039;&#039; -&lt;br /&gt;
** Email: jebateman &#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039; gmail... Mobile/Land:  775-336-9704&lt;br /&gt;
** Skype: jeb.bateman - [http://twitter.com/OSEcology OSE Twitter] volunteer - http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039; – http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hobbies and Pastimes&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
** Parenting of Jerin, Liom, Ellarie, with my wonderful spouse Karinn&lt;br /&gt;
** Volunteer Board Member: [http://wiki.renomakerspace.org Reno Makerspace] and [http://www.uufnn.org UUFNN]&lt;br /&gt;
** Co-chair: [http://electricnevada.org Electric Auto Association of Northern Nevada]&lt;br /&gt;
** Solar/Biomass/Hydrogen Energy systems&lt;br /&gt;
** Biking, Hiking, Off-grid cooking&lt;br /&gt;
** Farm/Garden/Permaculture&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing was new and exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering; yet I have not worked in the field of product development since I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse (around the time I finished school). Instead, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some (now outdated) open source tools for web development. At the same time, I experimented with various composting and gardening projects, and then later had some interesting taxi driving experience to broaden my views. Recently, I went back for some classes in Biology, Chemistry, and Psychology thinking I might want to attempt med school - not likely at this point as the years are marching by quickly. I enjoyed filling in some knowledge gaps though!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OSE is a great project; possibly the next big thing, and I intend to help startup tiny manufacturing businesses to make useful tools with inspiration from the ideas here over time.  &#039;&#039;Also, coincidentally with Marcin&#039;s research background, my brother is currently working on a radically simplified design for fusion power - http://starpowerenergy.com&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== To Do List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Need to redo this in standard QA format sometime - or probably add QA to my talk page - I joined before we had the survey.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Review [[Friendly Organizations]] more and add link to Bridgewire - Reno Makerspace&lt;br /&gt;
* Pivotal projects for more tasks&lt;br /&gt;
** IT Maintenance - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/306629&lt;br /&gt;
** Collab Platform - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/301609&lt;br /&gt;
* Continue testing Campfire and Highrise for use in the meantime, while we attempt to build out a custom collaboration platform.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31777</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31777"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T16:45:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: fixed a link, switched to nested list format&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Breadcrumb|IT Infrastructure|IT team}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==WHO are you?==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name/Nationality/Ethnicity&#039;&#039; - Jeb E. Bateman, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location&#039;&#039; – Reno, NV, US&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information&#039;&#039; -&lt;br /&gt;
** Email: jebateman &#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039; gmail...&lt;br /&gt;
** Mobile/Land:  775-336-9704&lt;br /&gt;
** Skype: jeb.bateman&lt;br /&gt;
** [http://twitter.com/OSEcology OSE Twitter] volunteer - http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039; – http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hobbies and Pastimes&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
** Board Member: [http://wiki.renomakerspace.org Reno Makerspace] and [http://www.uufnn.org UUFNN]&lt;br /&gt;
** Co-chair: [http://electricnevada.org Electric Auto Association of Northern Nevada]&lt;br /&gt;
** Solar/Biomass/Hydrogen Energy systems&lt;br /&gt;
** Farm/Garden/Permaculture&lt;br /&gt;
** Reading/Studying&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing was new and exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering; yet I have not worked in the field of product development since I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse (around the time I finished school). Instead, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some (now outdated) open source tools for web development. At the same time, I experimented with various composting and gardening projects, and then later had some interesting taxi driving experience to broaden my views. Recently, I went back for some classes in Biology, Chemistry, and Psychology thinking I might want to attempt med school - not likely at this point as the years are marching by quickly. I enjoyed filling in some knowledge gaps though!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OSE is a great project; possibly the next big thing, and I intend to help startup tiny manufacturing businesses to make useful tools with inspiration from the ideas here over time.  &#039;&#039;Also, coincidentally with Marcin&#039;s research background, my brother is currently working on a radically simplified design for fusion power - http://starpowerenergy.com&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== To Do List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Need to redo this in standard QA format sometime - or probably add QA to my talk page - I joined before we had the survey.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Review [[Friendly Organizations]] more and add link to Bridgewire - Reno Makerspace&lt;br /&gt;
* Pivotal projects for more tasks&lt;br /&gt;
** IT Maintenance - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/306629&lt;br /&gt;
** Collab Platform - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/301609&lt;br /&gt;
* Continue testing Campfire and Highrise for use in the meantime, while we attempt to build out a custom collaboration platform.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31776</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31776"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T16:39:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* True Fan since August, 2009 */ updated to more standard contact WHO section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Breadcrumb|IT Infrastructure|IT team}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==WHO are you?==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name/Nationality/Ethnicity&#039;&#039; - Jeb E. Bateman, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location&#039;&#039; – Reno, NV, US&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information&#039;&#039; -&lt;br /&gt;
Email: jebateman &#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039; gmail...&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Mobile/Land:  775-336-9704&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Skype: jeb.bateman&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://twitter.com/OSEcology OSE Twitter] volunteer - http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039; – http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hobbies and Pastimes&#039;&#039; - &lt;br /&gt;
Board Member: [http://wiki.renomakerspace.com Reno Makerspace] and [http://www.uufnn.org UUFNN]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Co-chair: [http://electricnevada.org Electric Auto Association of Northern Nevada]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Solar/Biomass/Hydrogen Energy systems&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Farm/Garden/Permaculture&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Reading/Studying&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing was new and exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering; yet I have not worked in the field of product development since I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse (around the time I finished school). Instead, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some (now outdated) open source tools for web development. At the same time, I experimented with various composting and gardening projects, and then later had some interesting taxi driving experience to broaden my views. Recently, I went back for some classes in Biology, Chemistry, and Psychology thinking I might want to attempt med school - not likely at this point as the years are marching by quickly. I enjoyed filling in some knowledge gaps though!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OSE is a great project; possibly the next big thing, and I intend to help startup tiny manufacturing businesses to make useful tools with inspiration from the ideas here over time.  &#039;&#039;Also, coincidentally with Marcin&#039;s research background, my brother is currently working on a radically simplified design for fusion power - http://starpowerenergy.com&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== To Do List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Need to redo this in standard QA format sometime - or probably add QA to my talk page - I joined before we had the survey.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Review [[Friendly Organizations]] more and add link to Bridgewire - Reno Makerspace&lt;br /&gt;
* Pivotal projects for more tasks&lt;br /&gt;
** IT Maintenance - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/306629&lt;br /&gt;
** Collab Platform - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/301609&lt;br /&gt;
* Continue testing Campfire and Highrise for use in the meantime, while we attempt to build out a custom collaboration platform.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31773</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31773"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T16:13:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: fixed typos, added link to my brother&amp;#039;s project&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Breadcrumb|IT Infrastructure|IT team}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
* jebateman &#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039; gmail...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing was new and exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering; yet I have not worked in the field of product development since I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse (around the time I finished school). Instead, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some (now outdated) open source tools for web development. At the same time, I experimented with various composting and gardening projects, and then later had some interesting taxi driving experience to broaden my views. Recently, I went back for some classes in Biology, Chemistry, and Psychology thinking I might want to attempt med school - not likely at this point as the years are marching by quickly. I enjoyed filling in some knowledge gaps though!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OSE is a great project; possibly the next big thing, and I intend to help startup tiny manufacturing businesses to make useful tools with inspiration from the ideas here over time.  &#039;&#039;Also, coincidentally with Marcin&#039;s research background, my brother is currently working on a radically simplified design for fusion power - http://starpowerenergy.com&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== To Do List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Need to redo this in standard QA format sometime - or probably add QA to my talk page - I joined before we had the survey.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Review [[Friendly Organizations]] more and add link to Bridgewire - Reno Makerspace&lt;br /&gt;
* Pivotal projects for more tasks&lt;br /&gt;
** IT Maintenance - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/306629&lt;br /&gt;
** Collab Platform - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/301609&lt;br /&gt;
* Continue testing Campfire and Highrise for use in the meantime, while we attempt to build out a custom collaboration platform.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Jeb&amp;diff=31768</id>
		<title>User talk:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Jeb&amp;diff=31768"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T15:32:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: moving brainstoring section to cleanup main page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Team Culturing Survey ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;ToDo&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Brainstorming ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been meaning to write up a proposal for &amp;quot;Community Owned Agriculture&amp;quot; (as opposed to Community Supported Agriculture) for some time, and recently found I&#039;m not alone in thinking this either - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/06/resilient-community-energyfood-ira401k.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before detailing the concept further, I&#039;d like to come up with an optimal name:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Agriculture]] (COA) - similar to well known CSA term, with a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture]] (COP) - important distinction toward integrated outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Enterprise]] (COPE) - One way to COPE with Power Down reality?&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Investment]] (COPI) - Important to copy (COPI) far and wide?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any other candidates? I see this possibility as a real accelerator toward building the productive local farms and seed banks we need asap.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31767</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=31767"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T15:30:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: added todo list&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Breadcrumb|IT Infrastructure|IT team}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
* jebateman &#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039; gmail...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing is new and very exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering; yet I have so far not worked in the field of product development as I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse. After school, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some (now outdated) open source tools for web development. I experimented various composting and gardening projects at the same time, and had some interesting taxi driving experience to throw in on the side. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OSE is a great project; possibly the next big thing, and I intend to help startup tiny manufacturing businesses to make useful tools with inspiration from the ideas here over time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== To Do List ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Need to redo this in standard QA format sometime - or probably add QA to my talk page - I joined before we had the survey.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Review [[Friendly Organizations]] more and add link to Bridgewire - Reno Makerspace&lt;br /&gt;
* Pivotal projects for more tasks&lt;br /&gt;
** IT Maintenance - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/306629&lt;br /&gt;
** Collab Platform - https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/301609&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Friendly_Organizations&amp;diff=31764</id>
		<title>Friendly Organizations</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Friendly_Organizations&amp;diff=31764"/>
		<updated>2011-06-20T15:11:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Misc. */ removed a broken link&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;{{breadcrumb|Organizations}}&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Feel free to edit this page or discuss your ideas related to possible partnerships in [http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/forum/partnerships/ our forum].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can also create a page and add it to the [[:Category: Collaboration Discussions]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For related wikis, see [[:Category: Related Wikis]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Misc.==&lt;br /&gt;
*Juliet Schor - discusses us in her book, Plenitude: The New Economics of True Wealth. See [http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=2081 blog].&lt;br /&gt;
*Kevin Carson - [http://www.amazon.com/Homebrew-Industrial-Revolution-Low-Overhead-Manifesto/dp/1439266999 The Homebrew Industrial Revolution] - large section of chapter on OSE&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.communityfortomorrow.org/ASoundSolution.htm Community for Tomorrow]&lt;br /&gt;
*John Robb&#039;s [http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2010/04/starters-universal-mechanical-power-sources.html?cid=6a00d83451576d69e2013485b06f06970c Global Guerillas]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transitionnetwork.org/ Transition Network] - Provides general information on Transition Towns and includes a global directory of initiatives. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/ Global Guerrillas] - John Robb&#039;s website on &amp;quot;networked tribes, systems disruption, and the emerging bazaar of violence. Resilient Communities, decentralized platforms, and self-organizing futures.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Jan. 2011 - [http://shareable.net/blog/the-next-net Shareable]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.communityfortomorrow.org/ Community of tomorrow]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.oceanarks.org/ OceanArks] - Promoting several sustainable technologies, like using plants to clean up polluted water, urban agriculture etc.&lt;br /&gt;
*7.25.08 - [http://fabuntu.org/ Fabuntu]&lt;br /&gt;
*The Nature of Order - [http://books.google.com/books?id=kZtZ57_nz-UC&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=strong+centers&amp;amp;source=gbs_summary_r&amp;amp;cad=0*PPA8,M1]&lt;br /&gt;
*6.1.08 - [http://madconomist.com/what-if-us-collapses-soviet-collapse-lessons-every-american-needs-to-know Collapse of US Empire]&lt;br /&gt;
*6.1.08 - [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147&amp;amp;hl=en Non Peak Oil]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.30.08 - [http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bljefferson.htm Early OpenFarmTech]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.30.08 - [http://www.bloglines.com/ BlogLines]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.29.08 - [http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/ltras/itech/ Open Farm Hardware]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.29.08 - [http://algalturfscrubber.com/ Algal Turf Scrubber]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.24.08 - [http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/258  TED talk with Paul Stamets on mycelium]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.24.08 - [http://rodaleinstitute.org/about_us  Rodale Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*AIDG Business Incubation - http://www.aidg.org/incubation.htm &lt;br /&gt;
*Personal Sovereignty Foundation - http://EcoComics.org/personal%20sovereignty%20foundation.html&lt;br /&gt;
*Ripple peer money system - http://ripple.sourceforge.net/&lt;br /&gt;
*Euclides Mance - Brazil peer economy movement - http://www.solidarius.com.br/mance/index.php?lng=en&lt;br /&gt;
*Global directory of environmental technologies - http://www.eco-web.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*Project management - http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000076&amp;amp;topic_id=1&amp;amp;topic=Ask%20E%2eT%2e&lt;br /&gt;
*Design for Disassembly - http://www.co-design.co.uk/design.htm&lt;br /&gt;
*Open Circuit Design - http://opencircuitdesign.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*Lakota secede from the Union - http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/12/lakota-withdraw.html &lt;br /&gt;
*The Story of Stuff - http://www.storyofstuff.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*Relocalization Network - http://www.relocalize.net/groups&lt;br /&gt;
*Jeff Budderer blog on us - http://blog.onevillage.tv/wp/?p=483&lt;br /&gt;
*RMI on Factor 10 cost reduction- http://10xe.com/subpages/tunnel.html&lt;br /&gt;
*Wired mag on emergency shelter: http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/multimedia/2007/10/gallery_instant_housing?slide=8&amp;amp;slideView=8&lt;br /&gt;
*o.design - http://www4.autistici.org/o.design/modules/news/&lt;br /&gt;
*Freedom Force - http://www.freedom-force.org/&lt;br /&gt;
*Open Source Green Vehicle - http://www.osgv.org/contact-ssm-osgv/&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://freeconferencecalls.com Free conference calls]&lt;br /&gt;
*http://omni.mcn.org/electriliteb/ - Electric Vehicle, to be developed in the open source&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ilsr.org/pubs/pubsalist.html Institute for Local Self Reliance]&lt;br /&gt;
*Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility - http://www.cpsr.org/about&lt;br /&gt;
*Constitution.org on invisible contracts - http://www.constitution.org/mercier/incon.htm&lt;br /&gt;
*Anxiety Culture - http://www.anxietyculture.com/contents.htm&lt;br /&gt;
*Critical Path primer - http://www.anxietyculture.com/criticalpath.htm&lt;br /&gt;
*Mindfully.org- http://www.mindfully.org/About-Mindfully_org.htm&lt;br /&gt;
*On distraction - http://www.anxietyculture.com/distract.htm&lt;br /&gt;
*Gupta Option - http://guptaoption.com/3.future_islam.php&lt;br /&gt;
*http://www.farmcatalog.com/1%60books/voices.aspx&lt;br /&gt;
*China is not doing so well, either: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/ID18Ad01.html + http://www.opendemocracy.net/democracy-climate_change_debate/article_2407.jsp&lt;br /&gt;
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management&lt;br /&gt;
*Sunvention - http://www.sunvention.com/html/todo1_english.html&lt;br /&gt;
*Anil Gupta - http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~anilg/&lt;br /&gt;
*National Innovation Foundation, India - http://nifindia.org/&lt;br /&gt;
*State-in-a-Box governance - http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/hexayurt/my-state-in-a-box-identity-services-architecture-paper-is-now-online-290&lt;br /&gt;
*Hacks in all areas- http://www.hackaday.com/2006/11/07/siamese-electric-motors/&lt;br /&gt;
*Adam Kumpf @ MIT - http://web.mit.edu/kumpf/www/index.html + [http://web.mit.edu/kumpf/www/kumpf-links.html Inventing Sites]&lt;br /&gt;
*Will O&#039;Brien - http://biobug.org/articles/&lt;br /&gt;
*Stanford: Entrepreneurial Design for Extreme Affordability - http://extreme.stanford.edu/index.html&lt;br /&gt;
*book &amp;quot;Handy Farm Devices and How to Make Them&amp;quot; (1909) http://www.journeytoforever.org/farm_library/device/devicesToC.html[http://www.republicoflakotah.com/about-us/faq/ Republic of Lakotah]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/ Low Tech Magazine] and [http://www.notechmagazine.com/ No Tech Magazine]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Fabrication, makers and hackers==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://vermeulen.ca/product-hacking.html Product hacking]&lt;br /&gt;
*OS metal depository, transaction system http://pktp.co.cc/&lt;br /&gt;
*FabFolk - http://www.fabfolk.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*Mobile Fab Lab - http://mobilefablab.blogspot.com/ &lt;br /&gt;
*www.fablabinnova.blogspot.com &lt;br /&gt;
*Fab Lab Forum 4 - http://cba.mit.edu/events/07.08.fab/&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://fablab.no/ Norway FabLab]&lt;br /&gt;
*Fab@Home - http://www.fabathome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Fab%40Home:Overview&lt;br /&gt;
*The Multimachine - http://opensourcemachine.org/&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://ng.cba.mit.edu/dist/PV.mp4 Fab Lab promo commercial]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://blog.cowtowncomputercongress.org/ Cowtown Computer Congress] - Local Kansas City hackerspace.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/ Hackerspaces] - Provides general information and a directory of hackerspaces around the world. &lt;br /&gt;
*Smari McCarthy, Iceland Fab Lab leader - http://smari.yaxic.org/blag/2007/10/16/an-offer-you-cant-refuse/&lt;br /&gt;
*Make Blog - http://blog.makezine.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*Instructibles - http://www.instructables.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*DIY Life - http://www.diylife.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*Ready Made Blog - http://readymade.com/blogs/rmblog&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.finkbuilt.com/blog/ Finkbuilt], a tinkerer&#039;s blog&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.humblefactory.com/ HumbleFactory] - very innovative ideas for open hardware&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Food==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://growingpower.org/ Growing Power], based in Chicago and Milwaukee. Educating people about local food systems. Aquaponics, beekeeping, wormeries.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://arkfab.org/ ArkFab]. This seems to have an identical vision to OSE: to create a post-scarcity world thru open-source development of local food systems and digital fabrication. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cd3wd.com/cd3wd_40/cd3wd/index.htm cd3wd]. 13 gigabytes of information on development for the 3rd world&lt;br /&gt;
*Dasagavya: organic growth promoter for plants - http://www.hindu.com/seta/2006/05/18/stories/2006051801921800.htm&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Refarm the city]]&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.permaculture.com&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://ooooby.ning.com/ Ooooby]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.25.08 - [http://permacultureinstitute.pbwiki.com/ Chaordic Permaculture Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*Organic Hydroponic Lettuce Production - http://www.organitech.com/index.php?goto=bep&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.fao.org/corp/knowledgeforum/en/ FAO knowledge forum]. Huge online collexion of knowledge on farming. [http://www.fao.org/sard/en/init/1574/2225/1846/index.html SARD initiative] focuses on educating people about sustainable agriculture&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carbon.org/ Institute for Simplified Hydroponics]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.growingedge.com/magazine/ Growing Edge]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Appropriate technology &amp;amp; development==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thefullbellyproject.org/ The Full Belly Project], open-source appropriate technology. Inventors of the universal nut sheller&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.appropedia.org/ Appropedia], open-content encyclopedia of appropriate technology&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tinytechindia.com/ Tiny Tech India], tools for small-scale rural development&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Building==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://earthship.com/ Earthship Biotecture] - With a background of 40 years of research and development of self-sufficient housing made from recycled materials, Earthship Biotecture focuses on development of Earth friendly and people friendly community living concepts that require little or no mortgage payment and no utility bills.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hexayurt.com/ Vinay Gupta&#039;s Hexayurt] &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.jeffvail.net/2007/04/mefab-open-architecture-project.html Open Architecture Network] &lt;br /&gt;
*Geiger Research Institute of Sustainable Building - http://grisb.org/&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://oikos.com/ OIKOS Green Building Sources]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.calearth.org/ Cal-Earth] promotes &#039;superadobe&#039; building&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.dwell.com/ Dwell Magazine]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.prototype-creation.de/ TS Prototype Creation] Offers engineering services for all sorts of ecofriendly construction and building technology&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Open culture==&lt;br /&gt;
*P2P Foundation blog on the open economy - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/what-kind-of-economy-are-we-moving-to-1-overview-of-attention-economy-concepts/2007/10/03&lt;br /&gt;
*Open Product Design from Christian Fiebig, Germany - http://opensourceproductdesign.org/&lt;br /&gt;
*6.15.08 - [http://hcsoftware.sourceforge.net/jason-rohrer/freeDistribution.html Model beyond copyright]&lt;br /&gt;
*Open Source development theory - http://www.guptaoption.com/5.open_source_development.php&lt;br /&gt;
*6.15.08 - [http://www.engr.uconn.edu/msl/paper/holonic/paper1.html Holonic Management]&lt;br /&gt;
*6.4.08 - [http://givebank.org/projects.html Give Bank Open Source Product Design]&lt;br /&gt;
*6.4.08 - [http://onthecommons.org/content.php?id=1942 peer economy emergence - threat or boon?]&lt;br /&gt;
*Berkeley Center for Open Innovation - http://openinnovation.haas.berkeley.edu/Home_COI.html&lt;br /&gt;
* P2P Foundation [http://p2pfoundation.net/ wiki] and [http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/ blog]&lt;br /&gt;
*P2P Economy for business - http://p2peconomy.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*Hot off the press (Oct. &#039;07) on physical production - http://www.peerconomy.org/wiki/Main_Page by [http://siefkes.net/ Christian Siefkes, Ph.D.]&lt;br /&gt;
*4.9.08 - OS is antidote to planned obsolescence - [[http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/03/28/open-source-the-only-weapon-against-planned-obsolescence]] &lt;br /&gt;
*4.9.08 - Design Club - http://opendesignclub.com/index.php/About.html&lt;br /&gt;
*Feb. 2011 - Open MythSource: http://openmythsource.com/ - interviewed on the [http://agroinnovations.com/index.php/en_us/multimedia/blogs/podcast/2011/02/episode-121-state-banks-opensource-mythology-and-viralized-transgenics/ Agroinnovations Podcast]&lt;br /&gt;
*5.5.2011 - Cultural Creatives: http://culturalcreatives.cc/the-revolution-movie&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ecovillages, ashrams and resilient communities==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://money.cnn.com/2007/09/26/technology/village_saving_planet.biz2/index.htm Gaviotas revisited]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.powerfromthesun.net/jtlylecenter.html J.T. Lyle Center for Regenerative Studies] - an experiment in sustainable living in California&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://gen.ecovillage.org/ Global Ecovillage Network] - &amp;quot;The Global Ecovillage Network (GEN) is a growing network of sustainable communities and initiatives that bridge different cultures, countries, and continents. GEN serves as umbrella organization for ecovillages, transition town initiatives, intentional communities, and ecologically-minded individuals worldwide.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*The Farm - http://www.thefarm.org/lifestyle/index.html&lt;br /&gt;
*Vigyan Ashram - new education - http://vigyanashram.com/ -  vapabal@gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.auroville.org/ Auroville], see [[Auroville Earth Institute]]&lt;br /&gt;
*http://www.twinoaks.org/&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.arcosanti.org/ Arcosanti]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thenzp.com/1_3.aspx The New Z-Land Project] - &amp;quot;The New Z-Land Project&#039;s mission is to create a prototype circular city and sustainable community in New Zealand which will subscribe to a Resource Sharing Society.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://resilientcommunities.org/ Resilient Communities] - Blog run by Bob Stilger that focuses on healthy and resilient communities.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nyhistory.com/central/oneida.htm Oneida]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://mtbest.net/ Mt Best], a homestead in Australia. Website has some innovative ideas on energy efficiency etc.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://ecosustainablevillage.com.ip01-web23.net/Village_Maps.htm Eco Sustainable Village], consultants for building sustainable communities&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://villageforum.com/ Village Forum] - A website helping people create small communities&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tamera.org/index.php?id=66&amp;amp;L=0 Tamera] - &amp;quot;Tamera’s aim is to develop an example of a model for a nonviolent co-existence of people and between people and nature.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.berkana.org/ Berkana] - &amp;quot;Berkana and our partners share the clarity that whatever the problem, community is the answer. We prepare for an unknown future by creating strong and sustainable relationships, by wisely stewarding the earth’s resources, and by building resilient communities.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.atlasinitiativegroup.org/ Atlas Initiative Group] - &amp;quot;The mission of the Atlas Initiative Group is to design, plan and build Atlas City in America, providing a peaceful transition model from a monetary based system economy to a resource based system economy demonstrated through an advanced city which will maximize automation and provide the highest standard of living for its participants.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*7.17.08 - A new country - http://wiki.aardsource.org/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
*7.1.08 - [http://seasteading.org/seastead.org/ephemerisle/index.html Ephemerisle] - a festival held at sea to get people thinking about the possibilities of living at sea. Now discontinued.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Support==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bfi.org/ Buckminster Fuller Institute]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://unreasonableinstitute.org/ Unreasonable Institute] - &amp;quot;At Unreasonable Institute we give high-impact social entrepreneurs wings. We are an international accelerator and investor in early stage social ventures and we seek out 25 of the world&#039;s most brilliant and bold social entrepreneurs to attend our annual 6 week Institute. There we will unite these entrepreneurs (deemed Unreasonable Fellows) and pair them with personal and entrepreneurial skill training, daily guidance from over 50 expert mentors, as well as opportunities and access to the seed capital their ventures need to take flight. &amp;quot; (Nikolay: not sure whether this one can be of direct help, but is here just for the record).&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://awesomefoundation.org/ The Awesome Foundation], founded to increase the amount of awesomeness in the world. Members of each local chapter pool together $1000 a month and give it to whoever has an idea for doing something awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
*1000 True Fans - http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/03/1000_true_fans.php&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Energy==&lt;br /&gt;
* Feb. 2011 - All Power Labs: Gasifier Experimenters Kit: http://www.gekgasifier.com/&lt;br /&gt;
*6.2.08 - [http://www.stanford.edu/~hydrobay/lookat/mkii.html another Tesla turbine thingy]&lt;br /&gt;
*6.2.08 - [http://kimmelsteampower.com/gallery.html Kimmel Steam Power]&lt;br /&gt;
*Boundary Layer Turbines - http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Devices/TeslaTurbine/index.html&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ugAivXAusus Flash steam Babington oil buner] on Youtube&lt;br /&gt;
*Ken Boak&#039;s oil and wood power - http://www.geocities.com/kenboak/wastewatts.html&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/babington/default.htm Page from Green Trust site on vegetable oil burner]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biofab.org/ The BIOFAB]: International Open Facility Advancing Biotechnology (BIOFAB) was founded in December 2009 as the world&#039;s first biological design-build facility. This professionally staffed public-benefit facility was initiated by a grant from the National Science Foundation (NSF) and is led by bioengineers from UC Berkeley and Stanford University. The BIOFAB is operated in partnership with Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (LBNL), the BioBricks Foundation (BBF), and the Synthetic Biology Engineering Research Center (SynBERC).&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/smallchp%20 List of Bioenergy companies]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://jnaudin.free.fr/ JLN Labs] - Free-Energy solutions and new generation of space-propulsion systems.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bingofuel.online.fr/bingofuel BingoFuel] - Alternative Fuels researches.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Economics and abundance==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty.htm In This Age of Plenty] from Louis Even.&lt;br /&gt;
*Open protocols and standards to exchange new units of value : http://open-udc.org.&lt;br /&gt;
*Futurism - http://thevenusproject.com/resource_eco.htm.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chris Anderson on [http://www.netvision.de/uk/dispatching/?event_id=5bb1b5e95afabb2e62d2b148ded47706&amp;amp;portal_id=369401748e8249f142a700d8098a3473  post scarcity economics]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.rbose.org/ Resource Based Open Source Environment] - &amp;quot;A collaboration platform for the development of open sourced solutions based on resource management and implementing them in our daily lives.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.rbefoundation.com/ Resource Based Economy Foundation] - A foundation focused on using science and technology to produce an abundance of the critical resources relevant to human survival.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.planetcollective.com/ Resource Based Earth Collective] - A social network focused on creating a resource based economy of sustainable living and resilient communities.&lt;br /&gt;
*Zeitgeist the movie - http://zeitgeistmovie.com/sources.htm&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com The Zeitgeist Movement] - A global movement dedicated to promoting and actualizing the vision of The Venus Project.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.p-ced.com/1/ People-Centered Economic Development] - Advocacy for an alternate economic paradigm measured in human terms.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Who might be interested in open source ecology? who has the same vision?==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.sristi.org/cms/en/our_network Honey Bee Network] (which has a link to http://www.techpedia.in/)&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.hackerspaces.org Hackerspaces]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.debian.net Debian], http://planet.debian.net&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.ubuntu.com Ubuntu], http://planet.ubuntu.com&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.openp2pdesign.org openp2pdesign.org], [http://www.openp2pdesign.org/twitter/ twitter news]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.welserver.com/ Web Energy Logger], with a live map of US data.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Discussion Area */ added WhyWikiWorks link&lt;/p&gt;
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I’ve been meaning to argue against the public forums a little bit, but kept putting it off [http://forum.opensourceecology.org/discussion/257/this-solar-fire-steam-stuff-is-going-ahead-as-is-thens until reading this yesterday]. I’m not sure who remembers, but I jumped in to help put out some raging flames on the blog almost 2 years ago. (These are very mild in comparison.) Unfortunately, volunteers can easily get bent out of shape, and some like to vent in public forums or blog comments. Fortunately though, we don’t have to enable such waste! Competent people can use the wiki/Talk pages to vent, and more competent people can refractor those discussions into something more concise and useful over time. That’s one of the famous lessons of [[wiki: WhyWikiWorks]] (where other mediums including email lists fail). To be clear, (and I’m quite sure not everyone will agree), I don’t see much value in the public forums, and think they just take significant time and effort away from the wiki where it belongs. If there was a way to put a time limit before deletion of forum threads (with an email warning that important info to keep should be moved to the wiki), I think that might work well, but I’ve never yet seen that feature in forum software. I do see the value of a private archived discussion areas for core team like Highrise (service level) -- also independent of our main server infrastructure for continuity. Not everything needs to be public IMHO, (and especially discussion about people can be inappropriate). --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 10:10, 6 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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= Previous Scratchpad =&lt;br /&gt;
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== Additional forum categories ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Couldn&#039;t we have some additional forum categories for discussing topics not in the current scope, like:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[appropedia:Category:Earthen construction|Earthen Construction]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[:Category: Transportation| Transportation]]&#039;&#039;&#039; (see [[p2pf: Category: Transportation]] and [[appropedia: Category: Transport]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Health&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Household Items&#039;&#039;&#039; (things like how to make your own soap, your own toothbrush, how to clean things)&lt;br /&gt;
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Other possible categories:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* General Discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;Partnerships&#039;&#039;&#039;: If you know a group which could be interested in a partnership with OSE, post your ideas here&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;News&#039;&#039;&#039;: News and other interesting stuff&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Announcements&#039;&#039;&#039;: Official OSE announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Discussões em Português&#039;&#039;&#039;: Discussions in Portuguese&lt;br /&gt;
* (we could also have discussions in Spanish, French and Russian - we have many visitors from Russia, for instance)&lt;br /&gt;
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Rasmus: &lt;br /&gt;
I totally agree with the category suggestions of &amp;quot;health&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;household&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
We have a page on the household cyclopedia (1881) by the way: &lt;br /&gt;
http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Household_Cyclopedia&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Category Structure ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Currently proposed on the main article page:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* General&lt;br /&gt;
** A single, general category with no sub-categories; one forum each for English, Spanish, French, Russian, and Portuguese. (writable by all)&lt;br /&gt;
** Announcements (read only, press releases, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Technical (writable by participating contributors, readable by all)&lt;br /&gt;
** GVCS Projects (50, top 20 for now)&lt;br /&gt;
** Component Projects (5 or so now, much more later)&lt;br /&gt;
** Community Projects (villages, communities, local OSE chapters, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
** Agriculture Projects (farming, permaculture, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Other Projects&lt;br /&gt;
* Organization (writable by participating contributors, readable by all)&lt;br /&gt;
** Resource Development&lt;br /&gt;
** Web Infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
** Project Management&lt;br /&gt;
** Standards (Docs, CAD, CAM, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Fundraising&lt;br /&gt;
** Project Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
* Staff (private to OSE staff)&lt;br /&gt;
** Grant Management&lt;br /&gt;
** Press&lt;br /&gt;
** Marketing&lt;br /&gt;
** Personnel&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Currently live on the forum (all categories and subcategories below accept posts form any registered user):&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* General&lt;br /&gt;
** Introductions &#039;&#039;- Introduce yourself! Tell us about your background, your skills, and how you&#039;d like to contribute to the project.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** GVCS Development &#039;&#039;- Discuss the GVCS tools here.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** GVCS Replication &#039;&#039;- This forum is dedicated to discussion of replicating GVCS technologies in independent locations by other groups and individuals.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Similar Projects, Partnerships and Open Culture &#039;&#039;- If you know a group with similar aims as OSE, post your ideas here&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*** sustentavelnapratica &#039;&#039;- Discussões relacionadas ao site http://sustentavelnapratica.net/&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** In the News &#039;&#039;- What others are saying about us.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Education &#039;&#039;- Topics related to OSE 2 Year Immersion Training, Whole Village education, Gaia University collaboration, and K-PhD Renaissance Education towards Freedom, as well as Augmented Reality training for fabricators.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Food&lt;br /&gt;
** Energy&lt;br /&gt;
** Health&lt;br /&gt;
** Household&lt;br /&gt;
** Sustainable Architecture&lt;br /&gt;
** New Communities &#039;&#039;- This is a discussion of Social Contract and Land Stewardship for new communities that are built via access to GVCS technologies. In particular, how is property owned and maintained in a resilient community? How is productivity assured via division of labor towards prosperity and resilience? How is the environment regenerated at the same time, and how does the community contribute to the welfare of other communities?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Transportation&lt;br /&gt;
** Linux Support &#039;&#039;- Support on OSE infrastructure in Linux - from installations, compatibility, software choices (such as what is the best Video editing software), Linux connection to iPhone, etc.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Other Languages &#039;&#039;- These forums are dedicated to discussion in other languages.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discussões em Português&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discussions en Français&lt;br /&gt;
*** Обсуждения в Россию&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discusiones en Español&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Other categories exist, but are omitted here for brevity)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My proposal is below. First, the categories that I&#039;d like to keep the most:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 (all categories and subcategories below accept posts form any registered user):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* General &#039;&#039;- General discussions. Your discussion may be moved by a moderator to a more specific category of our forum.&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;This category accepts discussions. it doesn&#039;t exist only to group the other categories.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Introductions &#039;&#039;- Introduce yourself! Tell us about your background, your skills, and how you&#039;d like to contribute to the project.&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;I would really like to keep this category&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Similar Projects, Partnerships and Open Culture &#039;&#039;- If you know a group with similar aims as OSE, post your ideas here&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;I would reallyu like to keep this category&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*** sustentavelnapratica &#039;&#039;- Discussões relacionadas ao site http://sustentavelnapratica.net/&#039;&#039;  &#039;&#039;&#039;I would really like to keep this category&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** In the News &#039;&#039;- What others are saying about us.&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;I&#039;m not sure this is essential&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Education &#039;&#039;- Topics related to OSE 2 Year Immersion Training, Whole Village education, Gaia University collaboration, and K-PhD Renaissance Education towards Freedom, as well as Augmented Reality training for fabricators.&#039;&#039;  &#039;&#039;&#039;I think this one is important. It already contains some discussions&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Food &#039;&#039;&#039;Not sure about this one&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Energy &#039;&#039;&#039;Seems to have quite a few discussions&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Health &#039;&#039;&#039;Not sure about this one. Let&#039;s delete it then?&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Household &#039;&#039;(no discussions currently exist here)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Sustainable Architecture &#039;&#039;(no discussions currently exist here)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** New Communities &#039;&#039;- This is a discussion of Social Contract and Land Stewardship for new communities that are built via access to GVCS technologies. In particular, how is property owned and maintained in a resilient community? How is productivity assured via division of labor towards prosperity and resilience? How is the environment regenerated at the same time, and how does the community contribute to the welfare of other communities?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Transportation &#039;&#039;&#039;Maybe we should delete this&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Linux Support &#039;&#039;- Support on OSE infrastructure in Linux - from installations, compatibility, software choices (such as what is the best Video editing software), Linux connection to iPhone, etc.&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Not sure if this is really needed&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** Other Languages &#039;&#039;- These forums are dedicated to discussion in other languages.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discussões em Português&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discussions en Français&lt;br /&gt;
*** Обсуждения в Россию&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discusiones en Español&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;(categories below are the same as current proposed structure on the main page)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Technical (writable by participating contributors, readable by all)&lt;br /&gt;
** GVCS Projects (50, top 20 for now)&lt;br /&gt;
** Component Projects (5 or so now, much more later)&lt;br /&gt;
** Community Projects (villages, communities, local OSE chapters, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
** Agriculture Projects (farming, permaculture, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Other Projects&lt;br /&gt;
* Organization (writable by participating contributors, readable by all)&lt;br /&gt;
** Resource Development&lt;br /&gt;
** Web Infrastructure&lt;br /&gt;
** Project Management&lt;br /&gt;
** Standards (Docs, CAD, CAM, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Fundraising&lt;br /&gt;
** Project Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
* Staff (private to OSE staff)&lt;br /&gt;
** Grant Management&lt;br /&gt;
** Press&lt;br /&gt;
** Marketing&lt;br /&gt;
** Personnel&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now, some categories that might need to be removed:&lt;br /&gt;
** GVCS Development &#039;&#039;- Discuss the GVCS tools here.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
** GVCS Replication &#039;&#039;- This forum is dedicated to discussion of replicating GVCS technologies in independent locations by other groups and individuals.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Tip|General Category is Separate and Public|Notice that discussions posted (by anyone) to the categories &#039;&#039;&#039;General&#039;&#039;&#039; and its children categories &#039;&#039;&#039;won&#039;t disrupt any work being carried out on other categories&#039;&#039;&#039;. And we may select some outstanding discussions to more specific categories if needed. Authors with the most relevant and constructive discussions should be invited to join the team.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Please provide your comments below&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Elifarley|Elifarley]] 20:43, 8 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mark Norton wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
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I would vote for the following:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Introductions - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*Similar Projects - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*In the News - drop&lt;br /&gt;
*Education - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*Food - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*Energy - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*Health -keep&lt;br /&gt;
*Household - drop&lt;br /&gt;
*Sustainable Architecture - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*New Communities - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*Transportation - keep&lt;br /&gt;
*Other Languages - keep&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Chris Fornof &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Basic idea is aiming to strip down to the bare essentials to focus discussion into manageable forms. Basically we start with discussions, and break into sub-forums based on volume.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Proposal&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Public&lt;br /&gt;
** Open Source Ecology&lt;br /&gt;
** General&lt;br /&gt;
** Ideas&lt;br /&gt;
** Off-topic&lt;br /&gt;
** Factor e Farm&lt;br /&gt;
* Technical&lt;br /&gt;
** GVCS(sub-forums as needed based on volume)&lt;br /&gt;
** Research (techs, orgs, ideas, people)&lt;br /&gt;
** Design (CAD, CAM, Mechanical, Architecture...)&lt;br /&gt;
** Media (Documentation, Press, Video, Music)&lt;br /&gt;
* Organization&lt;br /&gt;
** Web / Project Management&lt;br /&gt;
** Fundraising&lt;br /&gt;
** Project Proposals&lt;br /&gt;
* Staff&lt;br /&gt;
** Private&lt;br /&gt;
** Logistics&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=IRC_channel&amp;diff=31690</id>
		<title>IRC channel</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=IRC_channel&amp;diff=31690"/>
		<updated>2011-06-19T17:02:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: added note on CF testing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Open Source Ecology Live Discussion Channel==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can:&lt;br /&gt;
* Chat right here on this page (type your nickname below);&lt;br /&gt;
* Open this [http://bit.ly/ose-irc web chat in another window];&lt;br /&gt;
* Connect with an IRC client: irc://irc.freenode.net/opensourceecology&lt;br /&gt;
* We are also testing a Campfire chatroom. If you&#039;re an active contributor, email [[Jeb Bateman]] to help test it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://bit.ly/ose-irc&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;647&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;400&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Public Relations]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pivotal_Task_Tracker&amp;diff=31689</id>
		<title>Talk:Pivotal Task Tracker</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pivotal_Task_Tracker&amp;diff=31689"/>
		<updated>2011-06-19T16:27:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: questions and comments&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;We need a listing with links to &#039;&#039;&#039;active&#039;&#039;&#039; PT projects. Searching for &amp;quot;OSE&amp;quot; in the [https://www.pivotaltracker.com/public_projects public listing] currently brings up too many false positives, so I&#039;d suggest changing the naming convention to &amp;quot;OSEcology&amp;quot; to eliminate false positives -- same as the [[Twitter]] ID, btw.  Checking OSE projects there yesterday, many appear to be inactive now. If we&#039;re not going to use a project, it should probably be retired to avoid confusion and stagnation. The thing I&#039;ve noticed about PM tools like Basecamp in the past is that more &amp;quot;projects&amp;quot; are not better... it&#039;s better to organize by workgroups, and only split off projects &amp;quot;when the noise hurts&amp;quot; and/or there are different people involved. I&#039;m not a PT expert yet... &#039;&#039;&#039;Is it possible move items between projects in Pivotal to consolidate or split things off as needed?&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;That&#039;s a fairly new feature in Basecamp that I&#039;ve used extensively.&#039;&#039; --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 09:27, 19 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Fanuc_Industrial_Robot&amp;diff=30690</id>
		<title>Fanuc Industrial Robot</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Fanuc_Industrial_Robot&amp;diff=30690"/>
		<updated>2011-06-07T17:45:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* EMC Users with Robotic Arms */ wrap formatting&lt;/p&gt;
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=EMC2 IRC Chat=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right on, so it should be no problem. Where do I see the documentation on that kinematics software part?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80YhX73DuSg is an industrial robot running the completely standard EMC2 splash-screen code:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; The docs are a little sparse.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/kins.9.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 Ok. Are there any people in the group who use EMC2 to run robotic arms? I can get my hands on a Fanuc, without the controls from a guy Joshua who I think has been also on this IRC.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Yes, Stuart has a robot&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; So 6 axis is no problem?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Or do you mean on this actual IRC chat?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Genserkins can handle up to 6 joints. (and it is a simple compile-time switch to add more)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Awesome. I can get this: http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Fanuc_Industrial_Robot&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; How do I generate the toolpath file, is there any open software available for that?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Ooh! Fanuc red-cap motors! I have been wanting to see if my bldc component can really handle them.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; What&#039;s BLDC?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Andypugh, where are you located?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Maybe you can come for a visit and help me, i&#039;m in the Kansas City area.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; With EMC2 your robot arm uses normal cartesian G-code, and the kinematics software converts that into joint positions. It&#039;s all done by magic.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; I am in the UK, (and that is not Upper Kansas)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Ah.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Ok, is the kinematics software open source?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Do you have a link?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; It&#039;s part of EMC2&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=EMC2 With Robotic Arms=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Right on, so it should be no problem. Where do I see the documentation on that kinematics software part?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80YhX73DuSg is an industrial robot running the completely standard EMC2 splash-screen code&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; The docs are a little sparse.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/kins.9.html&lt;br /&gt;
* rooks has quit (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish.)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Basically, where your HAL file says &amp;quot;loadrt trivkins&amp;quot; you make it say &amp;quot;loadrt genserkins&amp;quot; and then you need a bunch of lines like setp genserkins.A-0 20 to set up the robot geometry.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; and back to a previous question, bldc means Brushless DC Motor, which those Fanuc red-caps are.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; If you have the Drives then it is easy but making them work with generic drives is a lot more fun. I am confident that I could do it with the modules that EMC2 has for that purpose.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Is the problem statement that of sourcing a generic drive for a BLDC motor, if we don&#039;t have the original drivers?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; I would want to go straight to  a generic drive.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; So when it breaks, I know how to fix it. That&#039;s a necessary first step for me.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Fanuc motors use a unique 4-wire feedback to tell the drive what the motor rotor position is, so that it can power the correct windings to make torque. &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Most motors use 3 wires, and most drives need 3 wires.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; The Mesa 8i20 ought to run them, in combination with the bldc component.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; There is a half-written Wiki page on the subject here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?BLDC&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Aha.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Did you write the BLDC info page?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; How much do the Mesa drivers cost?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Yes. I wrote the 8i20 driver and the bldc component too, for just this kind of problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; The drives are about $250 each, and the controller card is about the same (one controller can run 32 drives)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Ok. The mesas are on the scale of hundreds of dollars in cost?&lt;br /&gt;
* JustinXJS3 has quit (Quit: Leaving)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Yes. That is cheap for a brushless motor drive. They are 2,2kW, 400V, 20A drives.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; You might find some drives on eBay, and EMC2 _should_ be able to convert the 4-wire Fanuc feedback into 3-wire Hall feedback. It is untested, but if it doesn&#039;t work it needs to be fixed.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Is it desirable to design a through-hole circuit-millable version of that drive? &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; I&#039;m just trying to wrap my head around the problem statement for low-cost robotic arms.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; The problem is that you need a lot of force.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; which tends to mean big motors. You also need very low backlash, which means that you can&#039;t do it with gearing. They tend to use harmonic drives, and those are expensive too.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Aha. Can we mill harmonic gears on a basic CNC mill with indexing head?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; I can&#039;t see it being easy.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; I wonder if a servo-hydraulic robot might work? Imagine a CNC JCB digger.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; You would need joint feedback, and electrically controllable hydraulic valves.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; That&#039;s my thought! We&#039;re good on hydraulics. I don&#039;t see why a servo-hydraulic can&#039;t work. We&#039;d have to use a low-backlash hydraulic motor, though.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Why not just conventional hydraulic cylinders?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Cylinders would have limited motion capacity?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; It seems rotary is more versatile.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; We use them at work for simulating road load driving. They drive a car over a course with instrumented wheels, then they play-back the forces with an &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; elaborate 6-axis system of servo-hydraulic cylinders for weeks and weeks non-stop. The speed and force that the cylinder achieve is astonishing.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; But yes, rotary will give more movement (unless you go for secondary arms, or rack-and-pinion actuators.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Andy, can you be our advisor for the robotic arm? http://opensourceecology.org/gvcs.php . Your job would be a technical discussion, 1 hour every 2 weeks. Do you have the time?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; That is a good addition to an open source microfactory.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; I really know very little about robot arms, there are  people who know far more than me.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; (including the voices you can hear in that Youtube video)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;marcin_ose&amp;gt; Are they on #emc ?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; I think one of them was cradek&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; The robot arm itself is in Wichita.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=EMC Users with Robotic Arms=&lt;br /&gt;
There is a Board of Directors: http://www.linuxcnc.org/content/view/12/10/lang,english/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;atom1&amp;gt; andypugh, who&#039;s arm is that?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Possibly SWP.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; I don&#039;t know, I wasn&#039;t there.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;atom1&amp;gt; but you say it&#039;s in wichita?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; Yes, the Fest was held in the workshop at http://www.mpm1.com/&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;atom1&amp;gt; about a mile from me&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;atom1&amp;gt; :D&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;atom1&amp;gt; or less&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; The Cincinatti is probably the biggest machine that is controlled by EMC2 at the moment&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;atom1&amp;gt; who&#039;s shop is that?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;atom1&amp;gt; someone here?&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;mozmck1&amp;gt; stuat stevenson&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;andypugh&amp;gt; I don&#039;t know if he is on the IRC, but he is on the mailing list.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;mozmck1&amp;gt; he gets on here occasionally I think.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;mozmck1&amp;gt; Stuart that is...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
marcin_ose: there have been several EMC2 get togethers in Wichita KS, they call &#039;em fests.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Andy/Marcin,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The FANUC S420iF, it&#039;s sister machine and two RJ2 controllers are mine. I also have the pendants and 3-4 book on them. I initiated the most recent EMC2 conversation regarding these machines in an effort to honestly convey them to the OS Ecology community in MO. My previous research and information gathered from the EMC2 group leads me to believe that they could be quite easily retrofitted to EMC2 control by someone with the right skillset. This person is not me... I will upload more photos early next week when I get a chance to go look at them. I would gladly retrofit the arms for use as a router, trimming unit, adhesive applicator or whatever else was required.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
JOSH  04/24/2011&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Notes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Uptime&amp;diff=30674</id>
		<title>Talk:Uptime</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Uptime&amp;diff=30674"/>
		<updated>2011-06-07T15:40:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Created page with &amp;quot;These aren&amp;#039;t working for me. Service still running on 8080 with recent redirects? --~~~~&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;These aren&#039;t working for me. Service still running on 8080 with recent redirects? --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 08:40, 7 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Forum_Policy&amp;diff=30534</id>
		<title>Talk:Forum Policy</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Forum_Policy&amp;diff=30534"/>
		<updated>2011-06-06T17:10:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: public forums are flame bait&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= Discussion Area =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I’ve been meaning to argue against the public forums a little bit, but kept putting it off [http://forum.opensourceecology.org/discussion/257/this-solar-fire-steam-stuff-is-going-ahead-as-is-thens until reading this yesterday]. I’m not sure who remembers, but I jumped in to help put out some raging flames on the blog almost 2 years ago. (These are very mild in comparison.) Unfortunately, volunteers can easily get bent out of shape, and some like to vent in public forums or blog comments. Fortunately though, we don’t have to enable such waste! Competent people can use the wiki/Talk pages to vent, and more competent people can refractor those discussions into something more concise and useful over time. That’s one of the famous lessons of WhyWikiWorks (where other mediums including email lists fail). To be clear, (and I’m quite sure not everyone will agree), I don’t see much value in the public forums, and think they just take significant time and effort away from the wiki where it belongs. If there was a way to put a time limit before deletion of forum threads (with an email warning that important info to keep should be moved to the wiki), I think that might work well, but I’ve never yet seen that feature in forum software. I do see the value of a private archived discussion areas for core team like Highrise (service level) -- also independent of our main server infrastructure for continuity. Not everything needs to be public IMHO, (and especially discussion about people can be inappropriate). --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 10:10, 6 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Previous Scratchpad =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Additional forum categories ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Couldn&#039;t we have some additional forum categories for discussing topics not in the current scope, like:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[appropedia:Category:Earthen construction|Earthen Construction]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[:Category: Transportation| Transportation]]&#039;&#039;&#039; (see [[p2pf: Category: Transportation]] and [[appropedia: Category: Transport]])&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Health&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Household Items&#039;&#039;&#039; (things like how to make your own soap, your own toothbrush, how to clean things)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other possible categories:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* General Discussion&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;Partnerships&#039;&#039;&#039;: If you know a group which could be interested in a partnership with OSE, post your ideas here&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;&#039;News&#039;&#039;&#039;: News and other interesting stuff&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Announcements&#039;&#039;&#039;: Official OSE announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Discussões em Português&#039;&#039;&#039;: Discussions in Portuguese&lt;br /&gt;
* (we could also have discussions in Spanish, French and Russian - we have many visitors from Russia, for instance)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Rasmus: &lt;br /&gt;
I totally agree with the category suggestions of &amp;quot;health&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;household&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
We have a page on the household cyclopedia (1881) by the way: &lt;br /&gt;
http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Household_Cyclopedia&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:OSE_Education_Infrastructure&amp;diff=30364</id>
		<title>Talk:OSE Education Infrastructure</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:OSE_Education_Infrastructure&amp;diff=30364"/>
		<updated>2011-06-05T03:49:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Created page with &amp;quot;I was going to contact School Factory today (notes in Highrise), but holding off for team feedback. I&amp;#039;ll follow up with our local makerspace organization in Reno and see if they&amp;#039;...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I was going to contact School Factory today (notes in Highrise), but holding off for team feedback. I&#039;ll follow up with our local makerspace organization in Reno and see if they&#039;ve been in contact yet. --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 20:49, 4 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=OSE_Education_Infrastructure&amp;diff=30361</id>
		<title>OSE Education Infrastructure</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=OSE_Education_Infrastructure&amp;diff=30361"/>
		<updated>2011-06-05T03:40:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Added links&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;= Concept =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
last updated Jun 4, 2011&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Let&#039;s train the trainers to bring the project to the next level of replication. The biggest motivation is that people will flood us with resources if we set up an agile nonprofit structure to do this. We currently have a $60k offer on the table that we need to process, working on it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Team =&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lorelle Anderson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Frank_J_Zucco]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vann Miller]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mike Hill]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marcin Jakubowski]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mark J Norton]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Robert Anteau]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= See Also =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Related blog post on [http://blog.opensourceecology.org/2011/05/organizational-development-2/ Organizational Development]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.schoolfactory.org School Factory] may have a generalized [http://schoolfactory.org/content/space-federation-overview solution for Makerspace non-profit status]. &#039;&#039;Applicable for OSE?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:OSE Education]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Mark_J_Norton/Guide_to_OSE_Projects&amp;diff=30099</id>
		<title>Mark J Norton/Guide to OSE Projects</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Mark_J_Norton/Guide_to_OSE_Projects&amp;diff=30099"/>
		<updated>2011-06-02T18:12:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Starting a Project */ Small typo fix&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;DISCLAIMER:  The process described here is proposed by Mark Norton.  It does NOT represent any official OSE policy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Description=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Having gone through the process of getting an OSE project organized (see [[Steam Engine]]), I would like to be able to encourage others to do the same.  This page is a collection of notes and something of a guide towards either starting up an OSE project or joining one.  This is something of a moving target, because the OSE project itself is trying to get more organized.  As such, some of these links may get out of date and the information below might not be accurate after a time.  Caveat emptor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Choosing a Project=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Open Source Ecology project (OSE) is working to develop the Global Village Construction Set (GVCS), a collection of 40 or 50 machines (both numbers are cited in different places) intended to enable the development of local, resource-based communities.  There are a couple of places where you can see these projects listed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Main Page]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The main page of the OSE wiki has a very nice chart that just lists the GVCS tools grouped into six categories.  Each as links off to a page that further describes the project.  This is a good way to see the whole GVCS project from a 50,000 foot view.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[GVCS tools]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The GVCS tools page lists all of the tools.  Each tool contains a short description and has links to a forum, blog, wiki page, and current status.  Ideally this page would include an reference to the project manager, but it doesn&#039;t.  Also, the status is often pretty out of date.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Global Village Construction Set]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is another list of the GVCS tools.  This page has the official tool icons and a short description.  The status on this page has more to do with completion than project status.  There are a couple of nice videos after the tool list and an interesting essay on enabling technology from an OSE perspective.  At the very bottom is a description of the development process and working assumptions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Other Projects&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While the GVCS tools are the main projects there are other, much smaller efforts that should be considered as well.  Projects like the [[Open Source Stepper Motor Controller]] are focused on developing common components needed by the GVCS tools.  This sort of of &amp;quot;support project&amp;quot; will likely be more common as we shift from category 1 tool development (bootstrapped) to category 2 (making components to make machines).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Joining a Project=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are many ways to contribute or participate in OSE projects.  You can contribute to the [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/|OSE Forums] or you can add new pages to the wiki.  Becoming a [[True Fan]] is a way to contribute financially and highly recommended.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to get involved on a deeper level, you might considering becoming a member of an OSE project team.  The following pages can help you figure out what projects exists and who to contact about joining them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Development Team]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Development Team page lists pretty much everyone who is formally involved in OSE projects.  Besides listing the OSE core team and the board of advisers, existing project leaders are listed.  Contact one of these people if you want to participate in their project.  A number of other teams with common skill sets are defined which are shared by all OSE projects.  If you have one of these skills, considering joining one of these teams, which is largely a matter of adding your home page to the appropriate team category.  See [[Development Team/CAD Team]], for example.  Besides the CAD team, there are teams for Technical Review, Subject Matter Experts, Prototyping and Testing, Wiki Curators, Forum Moderators, Information Technology, Documentation and Video, Academic Research, Fabrication, Language Translation, and Natural Building.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Project Needs]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next, have a look at the advertised project needs.  The first half of this document describes general OSE project needs and the later half focuses on specific project needs.  As with other OSE wiki pages, project needs may be a bit out of date.  Consult with the OSE project manager for that project to determine current needs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Starting a Project=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are willing to make a serious commitment to the OSE project, you might consider starting up a project that hasn&#039;t been tackled yet (or perhaps has languished for various reasons).  We all have different skills, experience, and levels of competencies.  You should be aware that even if you start up an OSE project, you might not be the one to manage it as time goes on.  The project manager has specific duties and responsibilities (as defined in [[Project Manager Duties]]) that not everyone is prepared to assume.  Also, that person will need to work closely with the OSE Executive Director ([[Marcin Jakubowski]]).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That said, any contribution towards starting up a GVCS or other OSE project is a useful contribution, so don&#039;t be afraid to dig and get things going.  Before you start, check to make sure that the project you are interested in hasn&#039;t already been started.  Check the [[Development Team]] page for defined projects.  Next, send a message to the OSE Project Coordinator letting him know that you intend to start up an OSE project.  OSE is actively looking for a Project Coordinator, so best to send a note to [[Marcin Jakubowski]].  He may have recent information that can be of help getting started and might point you to some existing material.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before diving into the actual work of starting up a project,  you should be familiar with an important document:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[OSE Specifications]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Like other open source projects, OSE has a set of shared values and ethics.  These core valves are described on this page.  It explains what open source means and mentions values like modularity, user friendliness, ecological design, systems design, lifetime design, scalability, etc.  All of these will have bearing on every OSE project.  OSE specifications also includes a description of the methods and strategic approaches we use in project development and the components of an OSE project.  There is a way to measure how well an OSE measures up to our shared values using the OSE Project Metric Score, which is a set of 42 question worth 1 point each.  A perfect score is thus 42 (Hitchhiker Guide to the Galaxy references are purely coincidental).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once you are familiar with our shared values, you can have a look at the preferred approach to project development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Development Strategy]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
The Development Strategy page describes how OSE projects should be developed.  The development cycle, at a simplistic level consists of:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Design Rationale&lt;br /&gt;
* Drawings and BOM&lt;br /&gt;
* Review / Bids&lt;br /&gt;
* Prototyping and Testing&lt;br /&gt;
* Production&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a describing the basic approach (including some nice diagrams) a Development Work Template is included.  This is basically a list of things that need to get done on the project.  It&#039;s not really a template for what needs to be written, exactly, or how the pages should be organized, but it is a very good set of things that need to get done.  Working on any one of these tasks for a particular OSE project would be a major contribution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Systems Engineering Breakdown Diagrams]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Needless to say, some of the GVCS tools are pretty complicated.  It&#039;s even more complicated when you consider how they relate to each other and how they might be used to build a local economy.  The systems engineering breakdown diagrams is a way to describe the components of a technology and how it relates to others.  This approach is still in the early stages of being worked out but should add a degree of organization that will serve us well later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are other pages and documents that relate to or comment on the OSE project development process.  These include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Project Flow]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - comments on project management.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Project Management Tools=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Recently, OSE has started to experiment with a project management application called Pivotal.  This tools has been made available to OSE based on it&#039;s non-profit, open source status free of charge.  The [[Pivotal Task Tracker]] allows tasks (stories) to be defined, tracked, and managed using agile development techniques.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All of the OSE projects are public to view, but you must be a team member to enter new stories or work on a task.  To see the public OSE projects link to [https://www.pivotaltracker.com/public_projects] and search for &amp;quot;OSE&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Documentation Standards=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Documentation standards to describe and track OSE projects are still under development.  Several projects have moved through the full project life cycle including the [[CEB Press]], [[LifeTrac]], [[Microtractor]], [[Power Cube]], etc.  Others, such as the [[Torch table]] are under development.  Have a look at how these pages are organized to get a feel for how to set up OSE project pages.  All GVCS projects should use the Tool Template, which is illustrated on [[Torch Table Intro]].  At a minimum, each GVCS project should have the following pages:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Intro&lt;br /&gt;
* Development process&lt;br /&gt;
* Bill of Materials&lt;br /&gt;
* Build Instructions&lt;br /&gt;
* Buy It!&lt;br /&gt;
* User&#039;s Manual&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This organization is being discussed at the current time (June 2011) and may be revised in the future.  Mark Norton has proposed expanding the tool template to include pages for an Overview, Research, Design, Development, Specifications, Bill of Materials, Build Instructions, How to Buy, and a User Manual.  See [[Mark J Norton/GVCS Template]] for details but be aware that this is NOT an adopted OSE standard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other pages related to project documentation include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Wiki Documentation Standards]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Other Pages=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[GVCS Organizational Development Template]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Mark_J_Norton/Guide_to_OSE_Projects&amp;diff=30098</id>
		<title>Mark J Norton/Guide to OSE Projects</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Mark_J_Norton/Guide_to_OSE_Projects&amp;diff=30098"/>
		<updated>2011-06-02T18:05:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Description */ I&amp;#039;m forgetting category link syntax too, but linked to main page for now... Great docs Mark!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;DISCLAIMER:  The process described here is proposed by Mark Norton.  It does NOT represent any official OSE policy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Description=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Having gone through the process of getting an OSE project organized (see [[Steam Engine]]), I would like to be able to encourage others to do the same.  This page is a collection of notes and something of a guide towards either starting up an OSE project or joining one.  This is something of a moving target, because the OSE project itself is trying to get more organized.  As such, some of these links may get out of date and the information below might not be accurate after a time.  Caveat emptor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Choosing a Project=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Open Source Ecology project (OSE) is working to develop the Global Village Construction Set (GVCS), a collection of 40 or 50 machines (both numbers are cited in different places) intended to enable the development of local, resource-based communities.  There are a couple of places where you can see these projects listed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Main Page]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The main page of the OSE wiki has a very nice chart that just lists the GVCS tools grouped into six categories.  Each as links off to a page that further describes the project.  This is a good way to see the whole GVCS project from a 50,000 foot view.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[GVCS tools]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The GVCS tools page lists all of the tools.  Each tool contains a short description and has links to a forum, blog, wiki page, and current status.  Ideally this page would include an reference to the project manager, but it doesn&#039;t.  Also, the status is often pretty out of date.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Global Village Construction Set]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is another list of the GVCS tools.  This page has the official tool icons and a short description.  The status on this page has more to do with completion than project status.  There are a couple of nice videos after the tool list and an interesting essay on enabling technology from an OSE perspective.  At the very bottom is a description of the development process and working assumptions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Other Projects&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While the GVCS tools are the main projects there are other, much smaller efforts that should be considered as well.  Projects like the [[Open Source Stepper Motor Controller]] are focused on developing common components needed by the GVCS tools.  This sort of of &amp;quot;support project&amp;quot; will likely be more common as we shift from category 1 tool development (bootstrapped) to category 2 (making components to make machines).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Joining a Project=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are many ways to contribute or participate in OSE projects.  You can contribute to the [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/|OSE Forums] or you can add new pages to the wiki.  Becoming a [[True Fan]] is a way to contribute financially and highly recommended.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to get involved on a deeper level, you might considering becoming a member of an OSE project team.  The following pages can help you figure out what projects exists and who to contact about joining them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Development Team]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Development Team page lists pretty much everyone who is formally involved in OSE projects.  Besides listing the OSE core team and the board of advisers, existing project leaders are listed.  Contact one of these people if you want to participate in their project.  A number of other teams with common skill sets are defined which are shared by all OSE projects.  If you have one of these skills, considering joining one of these teams, which is largely a matter of adding your home page to the appropriate team category.  See [[Development Team/CAD Team]], for example.  Besides the CAD team, there are teams for Technical Review, Subject Matter Experts, Prototyping and Testing, Wiki Curators, Forum Moderators, Information Technology, Documentation and Video, Academic Research, Fabrication, Language Translation, and Natural Building.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Project Needs]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Next, have a look at the advertised project needs.  The first half of this document describes general OSE project needs and the later half focuses on specific project needs.  As with other OSE wiki pages, project needs may be a bit out of date.  Consult with the OSE project manager for that project to determine current needs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Starting a Project=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are willing to make a serious commitment to the OSE project, you might consider starting up a project that hasn&#039;t been tackled yet (or perhaps has languished for various reasons).  We all have different skills, experience, and levels of competencies.  You should be aware that even if you start up an OSE project, you might not be the one to manage it as time goes on.  The project manager has specific duties and responsibilities (as defined in [[Project Manager Duties]]) that not everyone is prepared to assume.  Also, that person will need to work closely with the OSE Executive Director ([[Marcin Jakubowski]]).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That said, any contribution towards starting up a GVCS or other OSE project is a useful contribution, so don&#039;t be afraid to dig and get things going.  Before you start, check to make sure that the project you are interested in hasn&#039;t already been started.  Check the [[Development Team]] page for defined projects.  Next, send a message to the OSE Project Coordinator letting him know that you intend to start up an OSE project.  OSE is actively looking for a Project Coordinator, so best to send a note to [[Marcin Jakubowski]].  He may have recent information that can be of help getting started and might point you to some existing material.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before diving into the actual work of starting up a project,  you should be familiar with an important document:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[OSE Specifications]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Like other open source projects, OSE has a set of shared values and ethics.  These core valves are described on this page.  It explains what open source means and mentions valves like modularity, user friendliness, ecological design, systems design, lifetime design, scalability, etc.  All of these will have bearing on every OSE project.  OSE specifications also includes a description of the methods and strategic approaches we use in project development and the components of an OSE project.  There is a way to measure how well an OSE measures up to our shared values using the OSE Project Metric Score, which is a set of 42 question worth 1 point each.  A perfect score is thus 42 (Hitchhiker Guide to the Galaxy references are purely coincidental).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Once you are familiar with our shared values, you can have a look at the preferred approach to project development.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Development Strategy]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
The Development Strategy page describes how OSE projects should be developed.  The development cycle, at a simplistic level consists of:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Design Rationale&lt;br /&gt;
* Drawings and BOM&lt;br /&gt;
* Review / Bids&lt;br /&gt;
* Prototyping and Testing&lt;br /&gt;
* Production&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After a describing the basic approach (including some nice diagrams) a Development Work Template is included.  This is basically a list of things that need to get done on the project.  It&#039;s not really a template for what needs to be written, exactly, or how the pages should be organized, but it is a very good set of things that need to get done.  Working on any one of these tasks for a particular OSE project would be a major contribution.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Systems Engineering Breakdown Diagrams]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Needless to say, some of the GVCS tools are pretty complicated.  It&#039;s even more complicated when you consider how they relate to each other and how they might be used to build a local economy.  The systems engineering breakdown diagrams is a way to describe the components of a technology and how it relates to others.  This approach is still in the early stages of being worked out but should add a degree of organization that will serve us well later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are other pages and documents that relate to or comment on the OSE project development process.  These include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Project Flow]]&#039;&#039;&#039; - comments on project management.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Project Management Tools=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Recently, OSE has started to experiment with a project management application called Pivotal.  This tools has been made available to OSE based on it&#039;s non-profit, open source status free of charge.  The [[Pivotal Task Tracker]] allows tasks (stories) to be defined, tracked, and managed using agile development techniques.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All of the OSE projects are public to view, but you must be a team member to enter new stories or work on a task.  To see the public OSE projects link to [https://www.pivotaltracker.com/public_projects] and search for &amp;quot;OSE&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Documentation Standards=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Documentation standards to describe and track OSE projects are still under development.  Several projects have moved through the full project life cycle including the [[CEB Press]], [[LifeTrac]], [[Microtractor]], [[Power Cube]], etc.  Others, such as the [[Torch table]] are under development.  Have a look at how these pages are organized to get a feel for how to set up OSE project pages.  All GVCS projects should use the Tool Template, which is illustrated on [[Torch Table Intro]].  At a minimum, each GVCS project should have the following pages:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Intro&lt;br /&gt;
* Development process&lt;br /&gt;
* Bill of Materials&lt;br /&gt;
* Build Instructions&lt;br /&gt;
* Buy It!&lt;br /&gt;
* User&#039;s Manual&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This organization is being discussed at the current time (June 2011) and may be revised in the future.  Mark Norton has proposed expanding the tool template to include pages for an Overview, Research, Design, Development, Specifications, Bill of Materials, Build Instructions, How to Buy, and a User Manual.  See [[Mark J Norton/GVCS Template]] for details but be aware that this is NOT an adopted OSE standard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other pages related to project documentation include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Wiki Documentation Standards]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Other Pages=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[GVCS Organizational Development Template]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=OSE_Online_Presence&amp;diff=30078</id>
		<title>OSE Online Presence</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=OSE_Online_Presence&amp;diff=30078"/>
		<updated>2011-06-02T07:35:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* External */ Fixed teambox link to public page&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;===Internal===&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/ Wiki]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/ Blog]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/ Discussion Forum]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://community.opensourceecology.org/civicrm CiviCRM]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===External===&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.linkedin.com/company/open-source-ecology Company page on LinkedIn]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology OSE] on Facebook (listed as product / service)&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcologyEurope OSE Europe] on Facebook&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://twitter.com/#!/OSEcology Twitter]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://github.com/OSE OSE] on GitHub (source code repository)&lt;br /&gt;
* https://ose.highrisehq.com/&lt;br /&gt;
* http://teambox.com/public/ose-it&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.myspace.com/OpenSourceEcology MySpace page]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fr33 - http://fr33agents.ning.com/group/opensourceecology&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Notes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Links]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: IT Infrastructure]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Development_Team/IT_Team&amp;diff=30077</id>
		<title>Development Team/IT Team</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Development_Team/IT_Team&amp;diff=30077"/>
		<updated>2011-06-02T07:07:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Back to Teambox (public project) for now since Basecamp was just in testing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Breadcrumb|IT Infrastructure}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Introduction==&lt;br /&gt;
If you have IT-related skills and you want to share your knowledge with the world and help OSE, then join this team!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==How to Join==&lt;br /&gt;
You can start by posting a short text about yourself and your skills on the [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/categories/introductions Introductions category] of the discussion forum.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, please read the [[Team Culturing]] page and fill out the survey, as described there. Don&#039;t forget to add &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Category: IT team]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039; to your survey page so that you get [[:Category: IT team|listed]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==IT Tasks==&lt;br /&gt;
Take a look at the [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/categories/web-development-and-support Web Infrastructure Discussion Forum] to see what&#039;s going on on that front. IT tasks will start as discussions on that forum category and then they can be turned into issues that will be tracked on [https://teambox.com/public/ose-it/ Teambox].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* list of current [[:Category: IT team| IT team members]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Meeting_planning&amp;diff=27570</id>
		<title>Meeting planning</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Meeting_planning&amp;diff=27570"/>
		<updated>2011-05-21T16:52:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Time Zones */ removed CDT because it was actually showing PDT - fix later, but known between US eastern and Pacific times shown&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=Conference Call=&lt;br /&gt;
*Our working conference call in number in the USA is +1.661.673.8600 with code 687605#&lt;br /&gt;
*Check out [http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html The World Clock Meeting Planner] &lt;br /&gt;
*If you are calling from countries other than the USA, sign up with http://www.rebtel.com/ to get low calling rates. Rebtel assigns a number local to you, so you can call the USA number above via a local number.&lt;br /&gt;
*We have considered a quarterly global teleconference call. How to implement this? Much of the team is in the San Francisco Bay Area, USA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Time Zones==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;FEFT = [http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/cdt.html CDT] = UTC - 5 with DST&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;FEFT = Factor e Farm Time&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* World clock: http://timeanddate.com/s/1uub&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html Online meeting planner]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Rio de Janeiro ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gttgot/n213/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Paris, Berlin ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n195/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== London ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n136/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== George Town, Cayman Islands ([http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/est.html EST]) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n377/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Los Angeles ([http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/pst.html PST]/[http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/pdt.html PDT]) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n137/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Tools==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Preferred:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ OpenMeetings - Open-Source Web Conferencing]&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;Suggested by [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/discussion/comment/65#Comment_65 Elkos] - It&#039;s a free browser-based software that allows you to set up instantly a conference in the Web. You can use your microphone or webcam, share documents on a white board, share your screen or record meetings. It is available as hosted service or you download and install a package on your server with no limitations in usage or users.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Skype&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mumble]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[TypePad]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Commercial:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* WebEx&lt;br /&gt;
* GoToMeeting&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.fuzemeeting.com FuzeMeeting] - Phone, Skype, and VOIP bridge with HD media and screen sharing, including mobile app meetings.&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;True fan [[Jeb Bateman]] can host meetings in his basic account for up to 25 participants.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Other:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Pligus - http://www.pligus.com&lt;br /&gt;
** Free up to 4 people in a conference room with instant start - no sign up needed.&lt;br /&gt;
** Explainer video (~3 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugQBlAyLcfY&amp;amp;NR=1&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;Compared to Fuze, lower quality VOIP-only conference with optional video, YMMV. Nice room features. -[[Jeb Bateman|jeb]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Others?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Organization]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Meeting_planning&amp;diff=27565</id>
		<title>Meeting planning</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Meeting_planning&amp;diff=27565"/>
		<updated>2011-05-21T16:49:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Updated tools with notes from some testing yesterday, and added FuzeMeeting option.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=Conference Call=&lt;br /&gt;
*Our working conference call in number in the USA is +1.661.673.8600 with code 687605#&lt;br /&gt;
*Check out [http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html The World Clock Meeting Planner] &lt;br /&gt;
*If you are calling from countries other than the USA, sign up with http://www.rebtel.com/ to get low calling rates. Rebtel assigns a number local to you, so you can call the USA number above via a local number.&lt;br /&gt;
*We have considered a quarterly global teleconference call. How to implement this? Much of the team is in the San Francisco Bay Area, USA.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Time Zones==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;FEFT = [http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/cdt.html CDT] = UTC - 5 with DST&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;FEFT = Factor e Farm Time&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* World clock: http://timeanddate.com/s/1uub&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meeting.html Online meeting planner]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== CDT ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gttr4k/n127/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Rio de Janeiro ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gttgot/n213/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Paris, Berlin ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n195/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== London ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n136/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== George Town, Cayman Islands ([http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/est.html EST]) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n377/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Los Angeles ([http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/pst.html PST]/[http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/pdt.html PDT]) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;http://free.timeanddate.com/clock/i2gtv60e/n137/fn6/fs16/fc9ff/tc000/ftb/bas2/bat1/bacfff/pa8/tt0/tw1/th1/ta1/tb4&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;214&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;58&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Tools==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Preferred:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ OpenMeetings - Open-Source Web Conferencing]&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;Suggested by [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/discussion/comment/65#Comment_65 Elkos] - It&#039;s a free browser-based software that allows you to set up instantly a conference in the Web. You can use your microphone or webcam, share documents on a white board, share your screen or record meetings. It is available as hosted service or you download and install a package on your server with no limitations in usage or users.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Skype&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mumble]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[TypePad]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Commercial:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* WebEx&lt;br /&gt;
* GoToMeeting&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.fuzemeeting.com FuzeMeeting] - Phone, Skype, and VOIP bridge with HD media and screen sharing, including mobile app meetings.&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;True fan [[Jeb Bateman]] can host meetings in his basic account for up to 25 participants.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Other:&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Pligus - http://www.pligus.com&lt;br /&gt;
** Free up to 4 people in a conference room with instant start - no sign up needed.&lt;br /&gt;
** Explainer video (~3 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugQBlAyLcfY&amp;amp;NR=1&lt;br /&gt;
** &#039;&#039;Compared to Fuze, lower quality VOIP-only conference with optional video, YMMV. Nice room features. -[[Jeb Bateman|jeb]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Others?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Organization]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=21930</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=21930"/>
		<updated>2011-04-19T18:32:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* True Fan since August, 2009 */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
* jebateman&#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039;gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing is new and very exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering, and yet I have so far never gone to work in that field as I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse. After school, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some open source tools in old Frontier on MacOS9. I worked on various composting and gardening experiments at the same time, and had some interesting taxi driving experience to throw in on the side. OSE is a great project; possibly the next big thing, and I hope to scale a tiny manufacturing business with inspiration from some of the ideas here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Need to redo this in standard QA format sometime -- I joined before we had the survey.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Brainstorming ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been meaning to write up a proposal for &amp;quot;Community Owned Agriculture&amp;quot; (as opposed to Community Supported Agriculture) for some time, and recently found I&#039;m not alone in thinking this either - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/06/resilient-community-energyfood-ira401k.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before detailing the concept further, I&#039;d like to come up with an optimal name:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Agriculture]] (COA) - similar to well known CSA term, with a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture]] (COP) - important distinction toward integrated outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Enterprise]] (COPE) - One way to COPE with Power Down reality?&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Investment]] (COPI) - Important to copy (COPI) far and wide?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any other candidates? Please edit this page to add them above, and let me know what you think the best term to use for involving community members toward investing and financing local permaculture farms. I see this possibility as a real accelerator toward building the productive local farms and seed banks we need asap.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Jeb_Bateman&amp;diff=21929</id>
		<title>Jeb Bateman</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Jeb_Bateman&amp;diff=21929"/>
		<updated>2011-04-19T18:23:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Redirected page to User:Jeb&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[User:Jeb]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Critique_of_LifeTrac&amp;diff=11073</id>
		<title>Critique of LifeTrac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Critique_of_LifeTrac&amp;diff=11073"/>
		<updated>2009-11-28T18:52:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Response */ fixed 2 minor typos&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=Critique=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This from [http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2009/02/bleg-for-open-source-ecology-open.html Mutualist]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote cite=&amp;quot;http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2009/02/bleg-for-open-source-ecology-open.html&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The Life Trac is trying to do too much in one machine, and should have been split among different devices. Also, they should not have gone for hydraulics, as it is too high technology for convenient construction and maintenance under field conditions. They should have taken interwar tractors like Ford&#039;s as their guide. There is no mention of the power unit or how biomass would be used as fuel. The only rational fuel approach in those circumstances is gasifying with a simple device like Georges Imbert&#039;s or the FEMA gasifier (see Gengas), so I hope they weren&#039;t thinking of fermenting and distilling liquids or making biodiesel. The only rational approach to power units is to use scavenged engines that can be adapted to the fuel and can be maintained (which means older style petrol engines, not diesel), or two stroke split piston engines which can be made and maintained at that scale.&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Response=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting critique.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;The Life Trac is trying to do too much in one machine&#039; - Please be more specific. LifeTrac combines all functions of agriculture, construction, and utility into one by virtue of plug-and-play hydraulics. If one reduces functionality, one will need 3-100 different other machines to do its work. Thus, the price would be 30-300 times higher, as LifeTrac is already approximately a factor of 10 cost reduction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;and should have been split among different devices.&#039; - that&#039;s contrary to the basic principle of multipurpose mahchinery. It is possible for a small community to maintain one tractor as such. It becomes an overbearing burden to support a large pool of machinery.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;Also, they should not have gone for hydraulics, as it is too high technology for convenient construction and maintenance under field conditions.&#039; - Quick disconnect motors allow immediate repair/replacement in the field. This is not possible with the other option, or geared transmission. Geared transmission is the number one failure mode of mechanical devices, from the standpoint of lifetime design. We eliminate the transmission, clutch, and differential and braking system by design - as hydraulics accomplish all these functions. As such, LifeTrac has proven to be readily self-serviceable, and we no longer have to &#039;take the tractor to the shop&#039; for repairs. This allows us much higher control of our lives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;They should have taken interwar tractors like Ford&#039;s as their guide.&#039; - We did. After we learned first hand that they break and require parts that are not available everywhere, we decided to build our own tractor. In particular, the transmission went out, we paid $2k, and a month later it failed again. This happened for our Allis and Massey Ferguson. The key is to use modern technology by moving away from mechanical transmission.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;There is no mention of the power unit or how biomass would be used as fuel.&#039; - We aim to build a steam engine power unit in the second half of 2010. We&#039;re currently tooling up for this. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;The only rational fuel approach in those circumstances is gasifying with a simple device like Georges Imbert&#039;s or the FEMA gasifier (see Gengas),&#039;- sure, if you favor ICEs. We favor pelletized biomass in ECEs (external combustion engines), such as the steam engine.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;so I hope they weren&#039;t thinking of fermenting and distilling liquids or making biodiesel.&#039; - Eactly. I think pelletized biomass is abou 10 times simpler to implement in practice, and it will have energy density approximately half of liquid fuels per volume.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;The only rational approach to power units is to use scavenged engines that can be adapted to the fuel and can be maintained (which means older style petrol engines, not diesel), or two stroke split piston engines which can be made and maintained at that scale.&#039; - This is applicable if one insists on relying on ICE paleotechnology choices- whose complexity does not meet the criteria for creating lifetime, post-scarcity design. Our opinion is that the post-scarcity economy goes to multiple-fuel engines such as the modern, high performance steam engine. This engine can be fabricated locally, and we are working on a modular, scalable Steam Engine Construction Set. This engine choice is compatible with solar power applications, combined heat and power applications, stationary power generation of all types, as well as automotive and other mobile applications.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Critique]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:LifeTrac]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:204.185.61.253&amp;diff=10462</id>
		<title>User talk:204.185.61.253</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User_talk:204.185.61.253&amp;diff=10462"/>
		<updated>2009-10-23T07:50:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Starting history on this IP.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;* 10/22/09 - Significant vandalism on [[Steam_Engine_Efficiency]] page.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Steam_Engine_Efficiency&amp;diff=10461</id>
		<title>Steam Engine Efficiency</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Steam_Engine_Efficiency&amp;diff=10461"/>
		<updated>2009-10-23T07:46:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Reverted vandalism, and removed one hanging stub I couldn&amp;#039;t find in the history.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=Introduction=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Start with definition of terms. Here is a chart showing relationships of various efficiency standards for a steam engine:&lt;br /&gt;
(source:[http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;amp;id=uzoJbLVkUHUC&amp;amp;dq=steam+engine+principles+and+practice&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=hzdKZRs6yz&amp;amp;sig=Tb5c3HglGpb-FXn5Zk8qlwNhm6E&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;resnum=2&amp;amp;ct=result#PPA411,M1 ], Chapter 10. There are some compounds over 26% overall efficiency and some singles running over 14%.  Reportedly, 20% efficiency was obtained (another reference), but it had very low cutoff ratio and couldn&#039;t tolerate load changes. That is where the electronic steam valve comes in to achieve this.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Steam_engine_efficiency.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The same reference has these typical Rankine cycle ratios for engines of different types:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:rankine_cycle_ratios.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Steam Engine Efficiency Predictions for the Factor e Farm Solar Power Generator=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Updated 2.1.09&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The missing link to date on the Factor e Farm solar power generator is the heat engine. Our goal is to develop a steam engine with Milestone 1 thermal efficiency of 17%, and Milestone 2 efficiency of 26%. The latter involves the use of electronic valving for total control of steam injection. Steam injection timing is called the cutoff ratio. As an analogy, this is comparable to electronic fuel injection in internal combustion engines.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Efficiency Predictions of Steam Engine==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The basic efficiency of a heat engine is governed by the [http://www.powerfromthesun.net/chapter12/Chapter12new.htm#12.1.2%20%20%20%20%20Thermal%20Efficiency Carnot Cycle]. For our case, we will operate at 650 K [http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Solar_Collector_Losses_Summary#Radiation_Loss_Calculation650K] (377C, or 710F), the practical upper bound due to [http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Solar_Collector_Calculations#Absorber_efficiency_and_operating_temperature blackbody radiation losses for our case].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the practical upper limit:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:rankine_losses.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For our case, we take Carnot efficiency = (650K - 363K)/650K = 44%&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for the case of going from 377C to 90C. The Rankine cycle ratio of .4 is proven for simple steam engines - so our worst case efficiency scenario is 17.6%. If we subtract 10% from this for mechanical efficiency losses - then we obtain about 16% efficiency. With steam injection electronic valving, we can approach the triple-expansion engine efficiency - .6 Rankine cycle ratio - or steam engines with 26.4% thermal efficiency. Cylinder insulation should cover cylinder heat loss, and perfect control of steam injection should allow for near-complete extraction of usable energy from steam.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As the last step, we have a 95% efficienct generator, for a total of about 15% efficiency for the steam - electrical cycle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Overall Efficiency of Solar Generator==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We have shown in [[Solar_Collector_Losses_Summary]] that the solar collector/boiler efficiency is 47%. We multiply this by 16% efficiency of the steam engine cycle - and obtain an overall system efficiency of 7.5%. This will give us 3.6 kW of power as milestone that reaches the $1/watt materials cost prediction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Comparison to Others==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Solar_Project#Solar_One Solar One] power tower showed an overall 14% efficiency.&lt;br /&gt;
*The [http://montaraventures.com/energy/2008/03/10/ausras-bold-claim/ Nevada Solar One] parabolic trough system showed an overall efficiency of 6.5% and a cost of $3.9 per watt.&lt;br /&gt;
*Others - [http://www.powerfromthesun.net/chapter12/Chapter12new.htm#12.2.6%20%20%20%20%20Examples%20of%20Solar%20Rankine%20Cycles here] &lt;br /&gt;
**The most relevant for our work is the Shenandoah steam power plant, with cycle efficiency of 17%, or 40% of Carnot efficiency. &lt;br /&gt;
*Ausra compact linear Fresnel reflectors showed up to at 69 bar and 285C - peak 39% overall efficiency from sun to electricity. See &#039;&#039;First Results from Compact Linear Fresnel Reflector Installation&#039;&#039;, by D.R. Mills et al - downloadable [http://openfarmtech.org/CLFR_First_Results.pdf here]&lt;br /&gt;
**Paper shows over 300 kW obtained from about 1350 kW of solar intercept &lt;br /&gt;
**Note: carnot efficiency here = (658K-348K)/658K = 47%. Ausra is operating with near perfect reflection and near zero thermal losses.&lt;br /&gt;
**Ausra results are spectacular, and Ausra made a claim that it could [http://montaraventures.com/energy/2008/03/10/ausras-bold-claim/ power the entire USA]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CLFR.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Relevance to Factor e Farm Prototype==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By utilizing the same strategy of compact linear fresnel reflectors and similar operating temperatures, we are aiming to achieve an efficiency about 1/5 that of Ausra, while still making the economics work out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Power towers are likely to be more expensive because each heliostat must be supported and controlled individually. Solar troughs don&#039;t produce sufficient concentration to gain the advantages of CLFR arrays.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Solar_Turbine]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Steam engine]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10389</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10389"/>
		<updated>2009-10-13T21:09:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: reworked summary a bit, and added picture (should find a better one later)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
* jebateman&#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039;gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project, as I resisted using those until early in 2009. Perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. Anyway, the OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing is new and very exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering, and yet I have so far never gone to work in that field as I became unimpressed with big companies making junk or worse. After school, I started an internet hosting and consulting business and developed some open source tools in old Frontier on MacOS9. I worked on various composting and gardening experiments at the same time, and had some interesting taxi driving experience to throw in on the side. Now looking for the next thing big thing, and possibly hope to scale a tiny manufacturing business with inspiration from some of the ideas here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Brainstorming ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been meaning to write up a proposal for &amp;quot;Community Owned Agriculture&amp;quot; (as opposed to Community Supported Agriculture) for some time, and recently found I&#039;m not alone in thinking this either - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/06/resilient-community-energyfood-ira401k.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before detailing the concept further, I&#039;d like to come up with an optimal name:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Agriculture]] (COA) - similar to well known CSA term, with a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture]] (COP) - important distinction toward integrated outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Enterprise]] (COPE) - One way to COPE with Power Down reality?&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Investment]] (COPI) - Important to copy (COPI) far and wide?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any other candidates? Please edit this page to add them above, and let me know what you think the best term to use for involving community members toward investing and financing local permaculture farms. I see this possibility as a real accelerator toward building the productive local farms and seed banks we need asap.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10388</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10388"/>
		<updated>2009-10-13T20:52:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg|right]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
* jebateman&#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039;gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project. I only started using those sites in 2009... and perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. The OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including Linux driven CNC and 3D printing is new and very exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering, and yet I have so far never gone to work for a big company making junk or worse. Instead I have forgone paychecks mostly, spending some time on computer/internet work and various composting and gardening experiments, (with some interesting taxi driving experience thrown in on the side). Planning to scale up another business sooner now that I can work with some of the ideas here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Brainstorming ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been meaning to write up a proposal for &amp;quot;Community Owned Agriculture&amp;quot; (as opposed to Community Supported Agriculture) for some time, and recently found I&#039;m not alone in thinking this either - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/06/resilient-community-energyfood-ira401k.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before detailing the concept further, I&#039;d like to come up with an optimal name:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Agriculture]] (COA) - similar to well known CSA term, with a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture]] (COP) - important distinction toward integrated outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Enterprise]] (COPE) - One way to COPE with Power Down reality?&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Investment]] (COPI) - Important to copy (COPI) far and wide?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any other candidates? Please edit this page to add them above, and let me know what you think the best term to use for involving community members toward investing and financing local permaculture farms. I see this possibility as a real accelerator toward building the productive local farms and seed banks we need asap.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg&amp;diff=10387</id>
		<title>File:Jeb and Liom at Donner.jpg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=File:Jeb_and_Liom_at_Donner.jpg&amp;diff=10387"/>
		<updated>2009-10-13T20:50:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Fun camping out in the summer of 2009.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Fun camping out in the summer of 2009.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10386</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10386"/>
		<updated>2009-10-13T20:47:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
* jebateman&#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039;gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project. I only started using those sites in 2009... and perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. The OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including linux driven CNC and 3D printing is new and very exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering, and yet I have so far never gone to work for a big company making junk or worse. Instead I have forgone paychecks mostly, spending some time on computer/internet work and various composting and gardening experiments, (with some interesting taxi driving experience thrown in on the side). Planning to scale up another business sooner now that I can work with some of the ideas here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Brainstorming ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been meaning to write up a proposal for &amp;quot;Community Owned Agriculture&amp;quot; (as opposed to Community Supported Agriculture) for some time, and recently found I&#039;m not alone in thinking this either - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/06/resilient-community-energyfood-ira401k.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before detailing the concept further, I&#039;d like to come up with an optimal name:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Agriculture]] (COA) - similar to well known CSA term, with a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture]] (COP) - important distinction toward integrated outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Enterprise]] (COPE) - One way to COPE with Power Down reality?&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Investment]] (COPI) - Important to copy (COPI) far and wide?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any other candidates? Please edit this page to add them above, and let me know what you think the best term to use for involving community members toward investing and financing local permaculture farms. I see this possibility as a real accelerator toward building the productive local farms and seed banks we need asap.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10385</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10385"/>
		<updated>2009-10-13T20:46:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Linked up appropedia, and need to draft more on CSA evolution soon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
* jebateman&#039;&#039;&#039;(at)&#039;&#039;&#039;gmail.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project. I only started using those sites in 2009... and perhaps it was a link through [http://www.appropedia.org Appropedia] which I found a bit earlier. The OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including linux driven CNC and 3D printing is new and very exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering, and yet I have so far never gone to work for a big company making junk or worse. Instead I have forgone paychecks mostly, spending some time on computer/internet work and my own gardening experiments, (with some interesting taxi driving experience thrown in on the side). Planning to scale up another business sooner now that I can work with some of the ideas here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Brainstorming ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been meaning to write up a proposal for &amp;quot;Community Owned Agriculture&amp;quot; (as opposed to Community Supported Agriculture) for some time, and recently found I&#039;m not alone in thinking this either - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/06/resilient-community-energyfood-ira401k.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before detailing the concept further, I&#039;d like to come up with an optimal name:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Agriculture]] (COA) - similar to well known CSA term, with a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture]] (COP) - important distinction toward integrated outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Enterprise]] (COPE) - One way to COPE with Power Down reality?&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Investment]] (COPI) - Important to copy (COPI) far and wide?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any other candidates? Please edit this page to add them above, and let me know what you think the best term to use for involving community members toward investing and financing local permaculture farms. I see this possibility as a real accelerator toward building the productive local farms and seed banks we need asap.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Links_To_Our_Work&amp;diff=10370</id>
		<title>Links To Our Work</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Links_To_Our_Work&amp;diff=10370"/>
		<updated>2009-10-08T21:08:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: changed timbuktuchronicles from home to permalink, and matched formatting&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;=Links listed with newest on top:=&lt;br /&gt;
#9.23.09 - http://timbuktuchronicles.blogspot.com/2009/09/openfarmtech.html&lt;br /&gt;
#7.24.09 - http://permaculture.tv/?p=202&lt;br /&gt;
#7.4.09 - One transhumanist&#039;s critique of Open Source Ecology - [http://transhumangoodness.blogspot.com/2009/07/will-becoming-yokel-improve-your-life.html]&lt;br /&gt;
#7.2.09 - Edward Miller in [http://www.sentientdevelopments.com/2009/07/how-to-redesign-our-communities-for.html Sentient Developments]&lt;br /&gt;
#4.15.09 - Non-practitioner&#039;s Critique of the Global Village Construction Set - [http://www.keimform.de/2009/04/15/ox4-notes-ii-open-hardware-challenges-and-ambitions/]&lt;br /&gt;
#2.7.09 - Practice of flex fab - [http://thewellrundry.blogspot.com/2009/02/small-scale-manufacturing-practical.html]&lt;br /&gt;
#3.5.09 - The Guardian - [http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/mar/05/open-source]&lt;br /&gt;
#2.21.09 - from blog on network learning, permaculture - [http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/open-source-ecology/]&lt;br /&gt;
#2.15.09 - Mutualist Bleg for OSE - [http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2009/02/bleg-for-open-source-ecology-open.html]&lt;br /&gt;
#http://mutualist.blogspot.com/2009/02/bleg-for-open-source-ecology-open.html&lt;br /&gt;
#Greg Landua, Global Village Institute at The Farm - [http://www.gaiaemerging.com/search?q=open+source+ecology]&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.gaiaemerging.com/2008/11/open-source-regenerative-revolution.html&lt;br /&gt;
#CEB CSM Proposal - [http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3547062/CEB-Open-Business-Plan-%EF%BF%BD-Community-Supported-Manufacturing]&lt;br /&gt;
# 2.5.09 - http://greenwithagun.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
#1.22.09 - http://www.justlol.net/blogroll/?p=3765 - on Flex Fab&lt;br /&gt;
# http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?102,8085,20947 - Jan 29-Jan 30, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
# http://www.justlol.net/blogroll/?p=3628 - Jan 31, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
# http://imagina-canarias.blogspot.com/ Jan 13, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
# http://permakent.com Jan 7, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
#12.10.08 - http://peakenergy.blogspot.com/2008/12/do-it-yourself-csp.html - on CSP&lt;br /&gt;
# Solar Turbine on Peak Oil - http://peakenergy.blogspot.com/2008/12/do-it-yourself-csp.html&lt;br /&gt;
# Pamela McLean’s informative pump about us - http://learnbydoinguk.blogspot.com/2008/12/open-farm-and-marcin-jakubowski.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Reto – ChipIns and discussion - http://nachhaltigbeobachtet.ch/blog/archive/2008/11/26/was-soll-das-oder-gemeinschafts-finanzierte-projekte.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wired blog - http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2008/11/meanwhile-down.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://commonsblog.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/oscar-open-source-auto-und-open-source-okologie/&lt;br /&gt;
#  Reto again after CEB proposal - http://nachhaltigbeobachtet.ch/blog/archive/2008/10/27/gemeinschafts-unterstuetzte-produktion-ein-entwurf.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Swedish blog - http://ollehost.dk/blog/2008/10/26/fscons-smari-mccarthy-on-abundance/&lt;br /&gt;
#  Peer-Produktion als dritter Weg - http://nachhaltigbeobachtet.ch/blog/archive/2008/10/24/peer-produktion-als-dritter-weg.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Open-Source-Bagger in Aktion - http://www.keimform.de/2008/10/24/open-source-bagger-in-aktion/&lt;br /&gt;
#  Vinay’s support OSE message - http://www.globalswadeshi.net/forum/topic/show?id=2097821%3ATopic%3A4851&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://www.justlol.net/blogroll/?p=1110&lt;br /&gt;
#  Richard’s speech at OSN: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/799433&lt;br /&gt;
#  Factor e Live Summer Bonus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxgIZapGNgg&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/community-supported-manufacturing-careers-in-global-village-engineering/2008/10/20&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/hexayurt/factor-e-farm-update-10-taking-dirt-out-of-the-ground-making-bricks-hexayurts-2-1081&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://permakent.com/2008/10/18/%E2%80%9Copen-source-ecology%E2%80%9D-ongoing-activity/&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/23/open-source-everythi.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Fiction about us? - http://rtgarden2019.blogspot.com/2008/10/blue-house.html &lt;br /&gt;
#  http://www.jeffvail.net/2008/10/open-source-ecology-help-needed.html#comments&lt;br /&gt;
#  New Work mention - http://neuearbeitberlin.mixxt.de/networks/wiki/index&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://worknets.ning.com/group/opensourcehardware &lt;br /&gt;
#  Reto again on collaboration- http://nachhaltigbeobachtet.ch/blog/archive/2008/10/02/geschichte-machen-hier-ist-die-chance.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Sasha on Treehugger - http://forums.treehugger.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&amp;amp;t=6445&lt;br /&gt;
#  Christian Siefkes –UPSet - http://www.keimform.de/2008/09/04/hiddinghausen-talks-1-free-design/#comment-15044 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Kevin Flanagan -http://kevflanagan.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/permaculture-appropriate-technology-and-open-source-ecology/&lt;br /&gt;
#  Lucas on tractor - http://imagina-canarias.blogspot.com/2008/07/tractores-desmontables.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Reto Stauss - http://nachhaltigbeobachtet.ch/blog/archive/2008/07/10/besser-als-die-siedler-von-catan.html&lt;br /&gt;
#  Brittany Sparking - http://keepingupappearances1056.1974central.com/2008/07/25/watch-idol-secrets-2-online/&lt;br /&gt;
#  Ron Paul forum - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=148323&lt;br /&gt;
#  Vince on a discussion group - http://www.3dallusions.com/forums/architecture-design/2622-green-building-systems.html#post35846 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Kevin Carson again - http://www.theartofthepossible.net/2008/07/29/and-i-believe-it-could-be-something-good-has-begun/&lt;br /&gt;
#  http://tmp2.wikia.com/wiki/Open_Source_Everything_Project &lt;br /&gt;
#  OSE Mid-Missouri - http://osemidmo.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
#  Jeff Vail - http://www.jeffvail.net/2008/06/rhizome-platform-design.html &lt;br /&gt;
#  Michel on Land - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/marcin-jakubowski-on-a-policy-to-expand-material-peer-production-through-land/2008/06/25&lt;br /&gt;
#  Richard’s Google Docs - http://docs.google.com/#all&lt;br /&gt;
#  Chaordic permaculture institute = http://permacultureinstitute.pbwiki.com/Marcin &lt;br /&gt;
#  Solar turbine group - http://groups.google.com/group/solar-turbine&lt;br /&gt;
#  Agroinnovations interview - http://agroinnovations.com/component/option,com_mojo/Itemid,182/p,39/lang,en/ &lt;br /&gt;
#  Global Swadeshi interview, How to Live Wiki - http://vinay.howtolivewiki.com/blog/hexayurt/global-swadeshi-dialogs-667 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Spanish syndicate - http://imagina-canarias.blogspot.com/2008/05/primer-ao-en-granja-factor-e.html &lt;br /&gt;
#  Open Econ dev: http://guptaoption.com/5.open_source_development.php &lt;br /&gt;
#  Global Swadeshi - http://www.globalswadeshi.net/?xgsi=1 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Missouri lecture video - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-710075551990473235 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Greenr.com on us - http://www.greenr.com/blog/category/open-source &lt;br /&gt;
#  Jeff Budderer’s Ecoliving Solutions blog - http://green.onevillage.tv/?p=214 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Richard’s links for us - http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dfzb7phh_16fmssqphk &lt;br /&gt;
#  Product Hacking - http://p2pfoundation.net/Product_Hacking &lt;br /&gt;
#  Interwiki map = http://www.appropedia.org/Interwiki_map &lt;br /&gt;
#  http://p2pfoundation.net/Multiple-Purpose_Production_Technology &lt;br /&gt;
#  http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Business &lt;br /&gt;
#  http://groups.google.com/group/barcampbank/browse_thread/thread/e16411d14f1d1500 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Wired - http://blog.wired.com/sterling/2008/02/the-liberator-a.html &lt;br /&gt;
# BoingBoing- http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/25/open-source-compress.html &lt;br /&gt;
#  Gratzel cell - http://www.mpoweruk.com/gratzel.htm &lt;br /&gt;
#  CSPOSI - http://www.csposi.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=102#102 &lt;br /&gt;
#  OSE Spec - http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=OSE_Specifications &lt;br /&gt;
#  Michel and Steve on Marcin - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/steve-bosserman-on-economic-sustainability-in-a-world-of-open-design/2008/02/19 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Call for open engineering: http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/marcin-jakubowski-a-call-for-open-engineering-and-a-commons-coalition-for-p2p-energy/2008/02/14 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Mike Koch weblog - http://thegreenvoyage.blogspot.com/ &lt;br /&gt;
#  Steve Bosserman on CEB - http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/steve_bosserman/2008/02/09/giving_it_away_making_money.htm &lt;br /&gt;
#  How to add timelines -http://socialsynergyweb.org/opensourceecology/content/how-create-timeline-product-cycles &lt;br /&gt;
#  Lion Kimbro - http://www.communitywiki.org/en/PlainTalk &lt;br /&gt;
#  BarCamp- http://barcamp.org/BigIdeacamp-KansasCity#Schedule  &lt;br /&gt;
#  http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/MarcinJakubowski &lt;br /&gt;
#Interesting on Zeitgeist: http://www.hubculture.com/index.php &lt;br /&gt;
#  Best propaganda yet: http://www.internationalistmagazine.com/2007-earlyfall/2007-earlyfall_commentary.html &lt;br /&gt;
#  OSE Spec - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/proposed-ose-specifications-aim-to-guarantee-truly-open-physical-peer-production/2008/02/12    &lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?blogid=14&amp;amp;entryid=402 January 22, 2008&lt;br /&gt;
#  dave Pollard’s Environment Link of the Week, Feb. 9, 2008 - http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2008/02/09.html#a2096&lt;br /&gt;
#  P2P Foundation on our work: http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/marcin-jakubowskis-open-farm-the-most-important-social-experiment-in-the-world/2008/01/22&lt;br /&gt;
#  Sam Rose - http://groups.google.com/group/CooperationCommons/msg/8a8fb3953cce3588&lt;br /&gt;
#  Mel’s blog - http://blog.melchua.com/2008/02/09/pollards-rules-of-life/ &lt;br /&gt;
# CEB Neocommercialization - http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=CEB_Press &lt;br /&gt;
#  Overview of Projects - http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Overview&lt;br /&gt;
# Neocommercialization - http://www.p2pfoundation.net/Neocommercialization &lt;br /&gt;
#  Digital fabrication - http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Design &lt;br /&gt;
#  Fab Lab Neil Gershenfeld on TED - http://www.bittorrent.com/users/tedtalks/torrents/TEDTalks%3A_Neil_Gershenfeld_%282006%29/c5993d59-0ecc-11dc-8dee-00e081411f3f &lt;br /&gt;
#  Social Synergy enterprise platform - http://socialsynergyweb.org/opensourceecology/content/ceb-prototype-1-fab-0 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Noblogs, OSTech Icons - http://ose.noblogs.org/post/2006/04/15/ose-yearly-plan-april-2006-april-2007 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Flickr pictures - http://www.flickr.com/photos/11113094@N03/ &lt;br /&gt;
#  First brick bressed, blog - http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=67 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Proposal - http://openfarmtech.org/OSE_Proposal.doc , http://socialsynergyweb.net/cgi-bin/wiki/ProjectSelectionMetricWiki/HomePage &lt;br /&gt;
#  OSE PRoduct Cycle - http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#Deployment &lt;br /&gt;
# CEB Prototype done, blog - http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=91 &lt;br /&gt;
#  Ecotech on blog - http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=116&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feedback]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=MicroTrac&amp;diff=10269</id>
		<title>MicroTrac</title>
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		<updated>2009-10-02T18:17:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Just moved new discussion to the Talk page - Undo revision 10213 by Whitworthsocket&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:Hoselengths.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Microtrac4.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MicroTrac1.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MicroTrac2.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:MicroTrac3.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
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MicroTrac is a small scale, walk-behind version of [[LifeTrac]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Industry Standards=&lt;br /&gt;
*The [http://www.abbysguide.com/ope/reviews/39-0-1.html BCS Tiller] is the main competition.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Tools=&lt;br /&gt;
*Tiller&lt;br /&gt;
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*Mower&lt;br /&gt;
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*Chipper&lt;br /&gt;
-Laimet conical screw design. Makes nice big, uniform sized chips.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Design=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Microtrac_Design1.blend]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=Engine=&lt;br /&gt;
The engine will be a modular removable unit consisting of engine, fuel tank, hydraulic pump, hydraulic reservoir, and frame. The frame will be the hydraulic reservoir, made out of 4x4&amp;quot; square tube.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
Engine should be a 12-20 hp 1 cylinder diesel engine, with air cooling. The engine will run the hydraulic pump.&lt;br /&gt;
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We have a 17.5 HP engine.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dimensions: 18x16x13&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Shaft: 1x?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Turns CW from above. CCW from below.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sourcing==&lt;br /&gt;
**[http://desc.shop.ebay.com/items/Generators__diesel-hp-cylinder_W0QQLHQ5fTitleDescZ1QQLHQ5fPriceZ50Q2eQ2e2Q2c000Q40cQQQ5ftrkparmsZ66Q253A2Q257C65Q253A15Q257C39Q253A1QQ_dmdZ1QQ_dmptZBIQ5fGeneratorsQQ_in_kwZ1QQ_ipgZ50QQ_mPrRngCbxZ1QQ_okwZdieselQ20hpQ20cylinderQQ_sacatZ106437QQ_scZ1QQ_sopZ15QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14?_fpos=64469&amp;amp;_fcid=1&amp;amp;gbr=1 from here]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Onan-2-Cylinder-Diesel-Engine-14-HP-DJEAMMS4496A_W0QQitemZ330310425172QQcmdZViewItem 14 hp 2 cylinder engine no starter $975]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Aurora-6000-Watt-Diesel-Generator_W0QQitemZ380106916786QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Generators?hash=item380106916786&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318 11 hp 1 cylinder generator  $899.00]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/Heavy-Duty-Silent-Diesel-Generator_W0QQitemZ380106472733QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Generators?hash=item380106472733&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318 13 hp 1 cylinder silent $1300]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/Industrial-8-250-Watt-Electric-Start-Generator_W0QQitemZ330311074168QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Generators?hash=item330311074168&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318 13 hp $695 GAS]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/23HP-Water-Cooled-Diesel-Engine-with-radiator_W0QQitemZ180331677925QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Farm_Supplies?hash=item180331677925&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 23 hp water cooled diesel engine with radiator $1000 - $1349]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/WHITE-FIELD-BOSS-2-62-DIESEL-UTILITY-TRACTOR-ONE-OWNER_W0QQitemZ370165894383QQcmdZViewItemQQptZTractors?hash=item370165894383&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1308 62 hp 4 cylinder tractor $1828 ]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/BELARUS-505M-FARM-TRACTOR-NO-RESERVE-FIXER-UPPER_W0QQitemZ250380038290QQcmdZViewItemQQptZTractors?hash=item250380038290&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 65 hp 4 cylinder tractor $710]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/DEUTZ-DIESEL-POWER-UNIT-ENGINE-MOTOR-F3L-1011-40HP-3cly_W0QQitemZ300296916733QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Farm_Supplies?hash=item300296916733&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 40 hp 3 cylinder $1500 - $2300 ]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/John-Deere-830-Diesel-Tractor_W0QQitemZ170306687641QQcmdZViewItemQQptZTractors?hash=item170306687641&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 35 hp 3 cylinder tractor $1185]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Volkswagen-Beetle-New-GLS-TDI-2000-VW-BEETLE-GLS-TDI-DIESEL-1-OWN-5SP-SNRF-NO-RESERVE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a1Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem120385960498QQitemZ120385960498QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks 90 hp 4 cylinder diesel 2000 vw beetle $2000]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-11-hp-air-cooled-diesel-engine-12v-electric-starter_W0QQitemZ330306984305QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item330306984305&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 11 hp 1 cylinder $400]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
**[http://desc.shop.ebay.com/items/__diesel-engine-hp-cylinder?LH_TitleDesc=1&amp;amp;LH_Price=50..2%2C000%40c&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%253A2%257C65%253A1%257C39%253A1&amp;amp;_dmd=1&amp;amp;_fsct=&amp;amp;_in_kw=1&amp;amp;_ipg=50&amp;amp;_mPrRngCbx=1&amp;amp;_oexkw=&amp;amp;_okw=diesel%20engine%20hp%20cylinder&amp;amp;_sop=1&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_pgn=4 more from here ]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://cgi.ebay.com/13-7-HP-INDUSTRIAL-DIESEL-ENGINE-PERKINS-402C-05_W0QQitemZ380104518370QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item380104518370&amp;amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;amp;_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 13.7 hp 2 cylinder $666 ]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.uspowerco.com/inventory_item.php?id=272 Perkins 402C 13.7hp 2 cylinder Same as above, asked for quote 3/5/09 talked to jeff]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Hydraulic pump=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
*10.1 GPM at 3600 RPM and 2500 PSI, requires 17.3 hp to drive it - best match to available engine - [https://surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009050111530930&amp;amp;item=9-1897-A&amp;amp;catname=hydraulic]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Sourcing==&lt;br /&gt;
*.677 cu in, 10.1 gmp @3600 RPM, 3000 PSI max, 4000 RPM max, $180 - [https://surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009050111530930&amp;amp;item=9-1897-A&amp;amp;catname=hydraulic]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Coupler=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
=Wheels=&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Wheelmotors.jpg|thumb|32 cu in wheel motor, 5130 in oz torque, 145 rpm at 20 gpm]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*one set of drive wheels in the middle balanced with the engine so the Microtrac can be rotated easily, with a motor on the side&lt;br /&gt;
*doubled up for traction&lt;br /&gt;
*have support wheels on the back sides so it doesn&#039;t tip easily&lt;br /&gt;
*drive wheels the same as lifetrac, 30&amp;quot; high 10&amp;quot; wide&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Bill of Materials=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Engine Cage and Controls==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtrac_engineback1.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtrac_engineback2.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtrac_pump677.jpg|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtrac_valve.jpg|thumb|3 spool, OC, 25 gpm valve]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Part - Cage || Weight || Price&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[https://surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009050111530930&amp;amp;item=9-1897-A&amp;amp;catname=hydraulic .677 cu in, 10.1 gmp @3600 RPM, 3000 PSI max, 4000 RPM max, $180]] || 9 lbs || $181&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_12006_12006 NT filter] [https://surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009050412033450&amp;amp;item=9-059&amp;amp;catname=hydraulic or SC filter] || 2 lbs || $17&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.mcmaster.com/#6408k15/=1gl6m4 or type E coupler half 1/4&amp;quot; key 2.5&amp;quot; o&#039;all long (2 of these,for] || .65 lbs || $9.86&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Parts total || 12 lbs || $220.85&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Part - Controls|| Weight || Price&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009041514290385&amp;amp;item=9-7175&amp;amp;catname=hydraulic 3 spool valve] || 35 lbs || $200&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Parts total || 35 lbs || $200&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other choices, not used:&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4X193 L095 coupler half 1&amp;quot; shaft 1/4&amp;quot; key 1-1/16&amp;quot; long] || .65 lbs || $15.28&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1A925 L095 hytex coupler insert] || .04 lbs|| $18.29&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4X191 L095 coupler half 3/4&amp;quot; shaft 3/16&amp;quot; key 1-1/16&amp;quot; long] or [http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/productIndex.shtml?from=Search&amp;amp;newSrch=yes&amp;amp;operator=keywordSearch&amp;amp;search_type=keyword&amp;amp;action=Go%21&amp;amp;QueryString=6X072&amp;amp;submit.x=361&amp;amp;submit.y=34 5/8&amp;quot;] || .7 lbs || $15.28&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Note on 3 spool valve - about 1900-3400 PSI relief setting&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Frame Metal==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2x2x1/8&amp;quot; is 3.05 lbs/ft&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Steel @ $0.70 per/lb&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Part || Weight || Price&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2x2x1/8&amp;quot; square tube 29&amp;quot; long, x 6 || 44.22 lbs || $30.95&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2x2&amp;quot; square tube 24&amp;quot; long, x 4 || 24.4 lbs || $17&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2x2&amp;quot; square tube 20&amp;quot; long, x 8 || 40.66 lbs || $28.46&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2x2&amp;quot; square tube 7&amp;quot; long, x 2 || 3.55 lbs || $2.49&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|7x25&amp;quot; plate 1/4&amp;quot; thick ||  || &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Tubing total || 125 lbs || $94&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Total length of 1/8&amp;quot; tubing - 37 feet, or 4 sticks of 10&#039; lenght.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+17.5 HP gas engine 60 lbs $?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+resirvoir 10 lbs $?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
+battery 20 lbs $23&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Total: 215.66 lbs&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Power Cube (MicroTrac engine cube) Details=&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtrac_couplerhalf1.jpg|thumb|Engine-side coupler half, 1&amp;quot; shaft, $9.86, Type E]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtrac_couplerspider.jpg|thumb|Spider insert, 1&amp;quot; shaft, coupler half, $14.36, type E]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtrac_couplerhalf2.jpg|thumb|Pump-side coupler half, 5/8&amp;quot; shaft, $9.86, Type E]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*The coupler halves and spider are shown in the pictures, from McMaster Carr [http://www.mcmaster.com/#6408k15/=1gyaq6 page 1157]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Power Calculations=&lt;br /&gt;
==Pump==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:hydcalc.jpg|thumb|Hydraulics Calculations from [https://surpluscenter.com/techhelp.asp?UID=2009041610053391&amp;amp;catname=hydraulic]]]&lt;br /&gt;
*From [https://surpluscenter.com/] - Pumping = 1 Hp = 1 GPM x 1500 Psi - (linear relationship i.e. 2 GPM @ 1500 Psi = 2 Hp)&lt;br /&gt;
**For the above pump, 14.2 gpm with 3000 psi indicates 28.4 hp requirement &lt;br /&gt;
*Hp to drive hydraulic pump = Psi x GPM / 1714&lt;br /&gt;
**For the above .97 cu in pump, 3000*14.2/1714 = 24 hp&lt;br /&gt;
**If we run at 2200 psi =&amp;gt; 18 hp required&lt;br /&gt;
**For .86 cu in pump, need 3000*12.6/1714 = 22 hp&lt;br /&gt;
**For the same with 2500 psi, 18.3 hp&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Power Available==&lt;br /&gt;
*Assuming 85% pump efficiency, we have 17.5*.85=14.8 hp power available to the machine&lt;br /&gt;
==Wheel Motor Calculations==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*32 cu in wheel motor: 20 gpm, 5170 in lb torque, 145 rpm&lt;br /&gt;
**Using 12 gpm, 5170 in lb torque, at 87 rpm - uses 7 hp of the engine&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Spider Torque Rating==&lt;br /&gt;
The Hytrel coupler spider has a 401 in lb torque rating. This is at 3600 rpm. If this pump is driving a hydraulic motor at 87 rpm (wheel motor at 12 gpm fluid flow, at its rated torque), what would be the maximum torque that the 87 rpm could have? 401*3600/87 = 16600 in lb. That is well within the 5130 in lb torque of the wheel motor. Coupler spider will hold up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Resource Map=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(&amp;lt;FONT COLOR=&amp;quot;red&amp;quot;&amp;gt;could use more review&amp;lt;/FONT&amp;gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Reviewers:&lt;br /&gt;
*http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/140170-homemade-modular-hydraulic-engine.html&lt;br /&gt;
**No response as of 4.28.09&lt;br /&gt;
*http://forums.hydraulicspneumatics.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&amp;amp;s=4721063911&amp;amp;f=8641063911&amp;amp;m=74110526&amp;amp;r=74110526#74110526&lt;br /&gt;
**Useful response, including hydraulics primer, Mr. Hanson&#039;s contact as a consultant, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
**The response claims need for 30 hp if we want 15 gpm at 2200 psi. We have 12 gpm at 2500 psi. &lt;br /&gt;
***CadTrac uses 16 gpm pump and 18 hp engine, at 2000 psi for 1/2 of the flow (to wheels) and 1000 psi to rest of flow (loader)&lt;br /&gt;
Coupler info:&lt;br /&gt;
*http://www.lovejoy-inc.com/uploadedFiles/Catalogs/jw.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
*http://www.ohiobelting.com/pdfs/lovejoycplg.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Notes=&lt;br /&gt;
*On calculations (right picture) - formula for horsepower to drive pump (with 1714 factor) includes the efficiency of the pump (about 85%)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Parts Buildout=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:microtracpartsbuild.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:MicroTrac]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:LifeTrac]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Hydraulics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:OSA]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:MicroTrac&amp;diff=10268</id>
		<title>Talk:MicroTrac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:MicroTrac&amp;diff=10268"/>
		<updated>2009-10-02T18:14:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* After using the walk behind thai Tractors */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== No length on coupler parts at northern tool. ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Need to find coupler part length for fitting all parts together.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== After using the walk behind thai Tractors ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.siamkubota.co.th/en/product_detail.aspx?pid=16&amp;amp;cid=3&lt;br /&gt;
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1-achsiger_Traktor.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For Plowing and using a small dozer blade and towing a trailer.&lt;br /&gt;
I can say that your effective Uni wheel will be a pain in the backside to use.&lt;br /&gt;
Having short legs to help stabilize is a huge basic design flaw.&lt;br /&gt;
Trust me you are working hard with these machines plowing. &lt;br /&gt;
You have to apply downward pressure to the handlebars to get the coulter or disk into the ground then modify that pressure to maintain cutting depth.&lt;br /&gt;
You dont want to be trying to balance the tractor in the vertical plane as well.&lt;br /&gt;
What about surface imperfections that will cause imbalance.&lt;br /&gt;
Either get a Gyro or make  it two wheels that are spaced at least 900mm apart. &lt;br /&gt;
If you are going to go Hydraulic that may mean two drive motors and  spools so that you can turn easily.&lt;br /&gt;
-- Regards Whitworth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;The MicroTrac design is certainly yet to be proven with implements. Did you notice the hydraulic actuation on the front quick attach plate that will allow raising and lowering the implement in use? I&#039;m personally not sure about a front tiller design where the bed would be packed down by the wheel rolling right down the middle of it, but perhaps it could be run in reverse with that tool so you just &amp;quot;lead&amp;quot; the handle down the path, instead of following behind with a mower for example. --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]]&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Asdxiao&amp;diff=10096</id>
		<title>User:Asdxiao</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Asdxiao&amp;diff=10096"/>
		<updated>2009-09-08T19:36:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: cleared spam&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Factor_e_Farm_Social_Contract_v1.0&amp;diff=10095</id>
		<title>Talk:Factor e Farm Social Contract v1.0</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Factor_e_Farm_Social_Contract_v1.0&amp;diff=10095"/>
		<updated>2009-09-08T19:34:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Created page with &amp;#039;There are some duplicate sections (apparently from an earlier draft) in the current protected version. The number v1.1 also mismatchs the title, so maybe good to move to a title ...&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;There are some duplicate sections (apparently from an earlier draft) in the current protected version. The number v1.1 also mismatchs the title, so maybe good to move to a title without a version... [[Factor e Farm Social Contract]] ... Ooops, that already exists. Refactoring needed?  --[[User:Jeb|Jeb]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10075</id>
		<title>User:Jeb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=User:Jeb&amp;diff=10075"/>
		<updated>2009-09-07T09:08:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Created page with &amp;#039;== True Fan since August, 2009 == * http://twitter.com/h2jeb * http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman  I don&amp;#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this proje...&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== True Fan since August, 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://twitter.com/h2jeb&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.linkedin.com/in/jebateman&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t remember if it was Twitter or Facebook where I first found this project. I only started using those sites in 2009... and perhaps it was a link through Appropropedia which I found a bit earlier. The OSE vision appears quite similar (and more evolved) to what I&#039;ve been thinking since 1999 or so. Independent farms can support truly free people. The addition of open source hardware development including linux driven CNC and 3D printing is new and very exciting to me as I was trained in Mechanical Engineering, (honors program at the University of Nevada Reno, 1997) -- and yet I have so far never gone to work for a big company making junk or worse though on basic principal. Instead I have forgone paychecks mostly, spending some time on computer/internet work and the rest in composting and gardening experiments, (with a little interesting taxi driving experience thrown in on the side). Hopefully I&#039;ll be able scale up a useful business sooner now that I can work with the ideas here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Brainstorming ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been meaning to write up a proposal for &amp;quot;Community Owned Agriculture&amp;quot; (as opposed to Community Supported Agriculture) for some time, and recently found I&#039;m not alone in thinking this either - http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/globalguerrillas/2009/06/resilient-community-energyfood-ira401k.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before detailing the concept further, I&#039;d like to come up with an optimal name:&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Agriculture]] (COA) - similar to well known CSA term, with a twist.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture]] (COP) - important distinction toward integrated outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Enterprise]] (COPE) - One way to COPE with Power Down reality?&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Community Owned Permaculture Investment]] (COPI) - Important to copy (COPI) far and wide?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any other candidates? Please edit this page to add them above, and let me know what you think the best term to use for involving community members toward investing and financing local permaculture farms. I see this possibility as a real accelerator toward building the productive local farms and seed banks we need asap. &#039;&#039;jebateman (at) gmail.com&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Hexayurt_construction&amp;diff=10057</id>
		<title>Hexayurt construction</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Hexayurt_construction&amp;diff=10057"/>
		<updated>2009-09-01T23:29:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Linked up rocket stove resource, but should probably create a dedicated page with some details.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;==Introduction==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This article is intended to provide a detailed description of the construction of the hexayurt so that the successes can be replicated and the few mistakes can be avoided.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The design applied at Factor E Farm as the Paul Newman Center for Temporary Housing (kind of kidding... Rob, call it what you like) was a perfect hexagon with 6&#039; walls, 10&#039; peak, and 14&#039; foot width.  It will comfortably house 3-4 people and should last about 10 years, given precautions taken.  It is a tension structure, so that the building itself will give it structural support.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rob, who has a history and family background in building construction, was quite skeptical of the structural integrity of the building.  It proved to be excellent, and come together better than was thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Step 1: Materials==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Materials aquired were 14?  4x8 OSB boards&lt;br /&gt;
100&#039; of metal flashing (about 5-6&amp;quot; wide, and of substantial thickness)&lt;br /&gt;
about 18 2x4s (for the roof, they dont need to be anything too fancy, we used salvaged wood that was fairly thin)&lt;br /&gt;
Lots of screws (we used drywall, though we would encourage stainless steel)&lt;br /&gt;
Paint&lt;br /&gt;
Tar (dont need too much)&lt;br /&gt;
Gravel (for the foundation)&lt;br /&gt;
Vinyl steal material (this was an extra precaution)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Step 2:Painting and Tarring, Site Prep and Foundation==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Painting and Tarring&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The next step was to paint and tar the OSB boards.  All of the OSB boards were painted on all edges, as OSB&#039;s weakness is moisture on the ends, which causes it to swell and rot.  The paint applied on the edges, corners and such 3 inches in to the board should quell this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, Tar was applied to the bottom edge of 6 of the OSB boards, about 4 inches in, so that high water would be deterred from any prolonged exposure to the boards.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Site Prep and Foundation&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
We used open engineered technology for site prep! but any rototiller will do.  We used the lifetrac with open rototiller to break up the soil, then we went through, measured everything out, ensured there was more than enough space for the walls, then pulled out roots, broke up clumps, and leveled it out with the rakes, and in the process stomped it down with our boots.  We used a 2x4 and level to ensure the grade was correct.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, we dumped gravel at the assumed edges of the structure, measured it out, and then tamped it down at about 5-6 in wide by 3 in thick, leaving space for a door.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, make sure to clear the area from any meddling chickens.  (Richard: One of them left a little gift for me on the ground that my hand discovered while making the wall panels)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Step 3: Cutting==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After the paint and tar dries, the next step is to start cutting the boards.&lt;br /&gt;
Because we decided on 6&#039; walls instead of 8&#039;, we were able to eliminate 3 OSB boards from the materials list and cut 3 in half for the topmost board.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-So, cut 3 OSB boards in half, making them 2&#039;x8&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Cut 6 OSB boards in half diagonally, corner to corner for the pinweel roof (take extra precaution to ensure that these are straight and true, as they will ensure that the roof comes together well in the end.  Also, if you are using foiled boards, cut them in half in opposite ways, so as to provide all foil on top)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Cut 12 2x4s to have a long edge and a short edge, at a 30 degree angle, so that they can be linked together inside horizontally and form the hexagon with the walls&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Cut flashing strips into 6 8&#039; strips and 6 6&#039; strips for the walls, then additionally 6 more 8&#039; strips for the roof&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-Using a hammer punch, punch along roof strips and wall strips all along the edge, about 2-3cm in from the edge, making double punches near the ends.  For the vertical wall strips, make sure that they are more dense.  2 people can set up a process doing this and have it done very quickly.  Make sure to wear gloves as the flashing has sharp edges!!! (richard: i learned this the hard way.  twice...)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For speed, have one small team cutting and punching flashing while another team draws and cuts board.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Step 4: Panel Construction==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Wall Panels&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With tar side down, attach 4&#039;x8&#039; OSB boards to 2&#039;x4&#039; boards, using the 2x4 with the long edge against the boards.  Ensure that they are all flush, and that the 2x4 is evenly attached to both boards!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
After this, attach flashing strip to one edge (left or right, doesnt matter, just keep it consistent throughout).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A trick Rob discovered with the flashing, to keep it flush as possible with the board, is to use the screw gun at an angle, pointing away towards the loose flashing end.  It doesnt need to be an extreme angle, just enough to pull it taught when the head goes in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, attach the flashing and the topmost 2x4 to the top of the 2&#039;x4&#039; OSB board.  Leave a consistent space between the top of the 2x4 and the top of the OSB board (we left about 1/4 in). This makes placing the roof much easier and safer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When attaching any of the flashing, ensure that you are placing less than half (more like a third) of the width of the flashing on the 1st board.  This will ensure a good amount will be left to attach to the other board, whether roof or wall, given that the angle between will take up some of that width.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Roof Panels&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Make a triangle with the panel pieces, screwing them into the 2x4 underneath evenly.  Ensure that all is flush and that the bottom edge of the 2x4 is far enough away from the bottom edge of the panel to ensure that it wont get in the way when raising the roof.  These 2x4s do not need to attach to the rest of the frame, as the roof is self supporting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Then, like the wall panels, attach flashing consistently on one side, leaving width space for angle and attachment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt] - Appropedia site on the hexayurt, tons of info.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_playa_checklist http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_playa_checklist] - More specifically, assembly instructions for the one Vinay built on the playa at burning man.  Lots of options for construction now!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Hexayurt Review=&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Jeremy|Jeremy]] 10:12, 13 February 2009 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
I tried living in the hexayurt for a little while, here are my thoughts. It was in November 2008. Weather was cold but not much rain or snow yet. Yurt was quite sturdy and kept the wind and water out, but was cold inside. Before Bob left we put the 55 gal. drum stove in and cut a hole in the side for the flue that had two bends. The stove was and is a difficulty, hard to light and very smoky. I slept on the futon mattress we had on the dirt floor of the yurt at the time. The floor was still kind of damp, I guess it was built when the ground was not entirely dry or water had gotten under the walls underground. In the morning it seemed very damp inside the yurt, which I think was from the damp ground. I don&#039;t know how it would be if it had a good stove. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nick took over the yurt when he came here. We moved the stove and had the flue go straight up to have a better thermal draw. With the stove going the yurt is pretty warm, but the door needs to be opened a lot to let the smoke out. It doesn&#039;t have insulation so it cools off quickly without a fire constantly going. The drum stove either burns out quickly and leaves the yurt cold in the morning or burns extremely hot and smoky all night making the yurt almost too hot and smoky to stay in. A good stove might leave it still pretty cold in the morning but it could be fired up easily and the temperature regulated better. Smoke still seems like a problem to me, even with a good stove in the cordwood hut.&lt;br /&gt;
[Image:Hexayurt.JPG]&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Vinay Gupta|Vinay Gupta]] 16:05, 13 February 2009 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
Ah, yes, I&#039;m not surprised than an uninsulated plywood structure was cold in winter. The Hexayurt geometry does not have decisive advantages in heat retention over other building shapes.&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Andrewed|Andrewed]] 04:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
Your results are perfectly consistent with any use of an uninsulated structure on exposed dirt in winter in Missouri, with a poorly functioning stove. Even 1&amp;quot; styrofoam boards on the ceiling, 1/2&amp;quot; styrofoam boards on the walls, and a plastic tarp on the floor would have helped you immensely. Also, the use of a [http://www.rocketstoves.com rocket stove] from Aprovecho in Oregon (plans available from them) or the very cheap [http://www.woodgas-stove.com woodgas stove] that Vinay recommends on his website would have kept you warm without the extreme hassle with smoke and complicated chimneys that you suffered. Better luck this winter?&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Housing]]&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jeb|Jeb]] 04:29, 1 September 2009 (PST)&lt;br /&gt;
I also recommend the [http://www.rocketstoves.com rocket stove] book mentioned above, and have built some small &amp;quot;pocket rocket&amp;quot; designs to experiment with so far. Building the fancy version with cob thermal storage battery would be ideal for maintaining comfort, but probably time consuming enough for a dedicated project visit itself. The battery woodgas stoves look excellent for outdoor cooking on the go, but probably not much good for heating inside without draft ventilation. However, the new [http://www.woodgasfirepl.com patio model] would probably work great in a tipi by comparison.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Open_Source_Car&amp;diff=9967</id>
		<title>Talk:Open Source Car</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Open_Source_Car&amp;diff=9967"/>
		<updated>2009-08-25T20:22:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: Extend concept to a bike pusher trailer, and scale up?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The pusher trailer concept is good, and exactly what I was thinking regarding making bicycles generally useful for virtually all around town travel during favorable weather. Good examples of what a bike trailer can carry are shown at http://www.bikesatwork.com/ -- but note the heavier items are only practical on flat land, not any hill or mountain country. Therefore, a little electric assist setup on the trailer, with regenerative braking ability, would be ideal to extend this utility to everywhere, and works with virtually all existing bikes, (although my recumbent BikeE would need a custom hitch). Ability to charge on the go with a solar panel or fuel cell could be a bonus for longer trips. --Jeb&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Wiki_instructions&amp;diff=9966</id>
		<title>Wiki instructions</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Wiki_instructions&amp;diff=9966"/>
		<updated>2009-08-25T20:00:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Logging In and Starting Pages */ fixed underscores in new additions example, plus quick note on link formatting&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Open Source Ecology wiki is powered by MediaWiki. Please refer to the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents MediaWiki help pages] for complete and up-to-date technical information about using this wiki. &lt;br /&gt;
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=Introduction=&lt;br /&gt;
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A wiki is an interface which allows users to input content - which is then updated without having to write any code or without having to submit html files.&lt;br /&gt;
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To start a new page, just type in your page name after the &#039;&#039;title=&#039;&#039;. For example, this page is called &#039;&#039;Instructions&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Logging In and Starting Pages=&lt;br /&gt;
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Click on &amp;quot;Log in / create account&amp;quot; at the upper right of the page to log in, or &#039;&#039;create account&#039;&#039; if you&#039;re not signed up. You do this by yourself - the wiki interface is open to all to contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;This is the critical point about a wiki: you can start new pages, and use a wiki as a general repository for a large amount of information, which can be organized as a subsequent step. So: internalize this point and start using wikis as a place where human knowledge can be collected, and value can be added to that knowledge by further organization towards applications.&#039;&#039;&#039; A large number of pages can be organized under one Category. See discussion about the Category tag shown. These pages will be filed automatically under a separate wiki page with title=Category: (whatever is the category name)&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Circuit_board&amp;diff=9964</id>
		<title>Circuit board</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Circuit_board&amp;diff=9964"/>
		<updated>2009-08-25T19:35:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: fixed another leading space formatting issue&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;From Chris:&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at the photo here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoeken/3316849629/sizes/l/ the finest part seems to be the CPU in the middle. The footprint details are here: http://www.siongboon.com/projects/2005-09-07_home_pcb_fabrication/footprint/TQFP-44%2010x10x1%20G4012-001.pdf.&lt;br /&gt;
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0.56mm pads with 0.24mm gaps, that is certainly achievable with milling. Here are examples of bits fine enough, no idea how much they cost. http://www.lpkf.com/products/rapid-pcb-prototyping/tools/surface-tools.htm You would also need a high speed spindle with good bearings. Someday I will get round to trying it with HydraRaptor as it certainly has the resolution.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know what power laser you would need.  I know Zach told me the laser printer they use for Acrylic, probably 25W-40W, will not etch PCBs.&lt;br /&gt;
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I would also like to try spark eroding it with a fine tungsten electrode.&lt;br /&gt;
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The chemical etch method starts to look more attractive after seeing this; http://www.instructables.com/id/Sponge-Ferric-Chloride-Method-Etch-Circuit-Bo/&lt;br /&gt;
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One problem you have with all these methods is making the vias. If they are big enough you can just drill a hole and solder a piece of wire each side, but there are some on that board underneath the surface mount chips, so they would need to be perfectly flush. They could probably be moved.&lt;br /&gt;
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The commercial milling machines cover the board with a plastic sheet, drill holes in it where the vias are, insert a paste type substance with a squeegee and then bake it in an oven to form conductive plugs.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry I can&#039;t be more authoritative on this until I have tried some of these things myself. The only PCBs I have made in the past where done with a laser printer onto plastic film, then UV exposed onto photosensitve PCB material and etched with ferric chloride in a heated bubble chamber. It was about 15 years ago and I never did any surface mount stuff, only 0.1&amp;quot; pitch though hole.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Circuit Boards]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_Turbine_Implementation&amp;diff=9963</id>
		<title>Solar Turbine Implementation</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_Turbine_Implementation&amp;diff=9963"/>
		<updated>2009-08-25T19:27:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jeb: /* Smari */ fixed wiki formatting on this letter by removing the leading spaces.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This is a log of the implementation process, dead ends and all.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The First Reflector==&lt;br /&gt;
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The first idea to be implemented was a 4&#039;x 8&#039; tensioned plywood panel covered in aluminum foil (later to be mylar).  The tension applied by two rows of bolts with wingnuts holds the plywood in a parabolic shape.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:First_panel.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At sundown, this panel appeared to give a tight focus (as Ben learned first hand).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:First_panel_andben.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Under greater intensity light however, the flaws of the design became apparent as a foot wide strip was clearly illuminated. The imprecise optics may be due to the diffuse reflectance of the aluminum foil.  Experiments with mylar when it arrives will be telling.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Second Reflector==&lt;br /&gt;
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Getting ready for testing the second collector:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:testing.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Next Reflector==&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to the changing focal length of the system as the suns angle parallel to the trough axis changes, the concentrating ability of a single parabolic reflector is limited to about 2 in an east-west axis system.  Therefore, the next panel implementation will be only one foot wide as opposed to four feet.  Experiments with mylar stuck to a curved plywood or oriented strand board backing will be preformed.  Strectched mylar seems unlikely due to the high cost of thick (5 mil) mylar. &lt;br /&gt;
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The local hardware store has 1/8&amp;quot; glass mirrors for $1.50 a square foot, which will easily curve under tension to our desired shape, probably won&#039;t require plywood backing and which should long outlast mylar.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Back to the Drawing Board==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is the design with the sandwich of curved surfaces:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:reflectorsandwich.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reviews==&lt;br /&gt;
===Peter Clark===&lt;br /&gt;
Peter Clark &amp;lt;2PeterClark@gmail.com&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Marcin:&lt;br /&gt;
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I enjoy your reporting. Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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The group that I was working with in the 1970&#039;s found two ways to create good reflector surfaces using aluminized mylar:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. Pull a vacuum behind film that is mounted in a circular frame.&lt;br /&gt;
2. Use a formed shape to push the mylar, and then rigidify it. We used a searchlight mirror as a mold for a fiberglass &amp;quot;parabolic mound&amp;quot;, stretched the mylar over a ring, and pushed the ring down around the mound, the coated it in fiberglass (ugh).&lt;br /&gt;
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Glass mirrors in a Fresnel arrangement is another option.&lt;br /&gt;
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These things are shown in the book that I wrote at the time- the Natural Energy Workbook Vol. II. It has been out-of-print for 20 years, but is available used on Amazon.&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep up the good work!&lt;br /&gt;
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Peter&lt;br /&gt;
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===Smari===&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry to hear about the problems with reflective surfaces. We&#039;ve been&lt;br /&gt;
getting lots of questions at the Fab Lab about laser etching glass and&lt;br /&gt;
mirrors recently, and while glass is no problem mirrors can&#039;t be done as&lt;br /&gt;
they&#039;ll scatter the beam and fudge up the laser. So I checked out how&lt;br /&gt;
it&#039;s currently done..&lt;br /&gt;
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What I think you might want to do is build your own parabolic glass&lt;br /&gt;
sheets to specification. You could do this by, for example, milling out&lt;br /&gt;
a wooden block in negative, casting silicon over that making a positive&lt;br /&gt;
mold, then stone casting over that (ceramic mold). It&#039;s a three step&lt;br /&gt;
process but it&#039;ll give you lots of leeway for accuracy, specially as the&lt;br /&gt;
silicon will maintain details very well. Given the stone mold, pad it&lt;br /&gt;
with green sand (mix of silica, water, and some other stuff) and put&lt;br /&gt;
pure silica (SiO2) mixed with sodium carbonate (Na2CO3) into the mold&lt;br /&gt;
and bake at 1500°C. Supposedly this should give you a translucent sheet&lt;br /&gt;
of moderate quality.&lt;br /&gt;
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When this is done, rough application of a molten tin-silver mixture to&lt;br /&gt;
the back surface should both remove any roughness in the glass at that&lt;br /&gt;
side and provide a reflective coating.&lt;br /&gt;
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... but that said, making mirrors is unfortunately a bit complicated&lt;br /&gt;
and delicate. How can it be made simpler?&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking forward to the next episode!&lt;br /&gt;
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- Smári - spm2@hi.is&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Solar Turbine]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jeb</name></author>
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