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Foundry

2011-02-05T07:28:40Z

Mangobyte:

{{Template:Category=Induction furnace}}

== Introduction ==

A foundry is useful for converting otherwise unusable scrap metal into useful metal parts by melting the metal and casting it into desired shapes.

*Steel melts at around 2500F, 1350C, or slightly below pure iron
*Iron melting point - 2800F, 1540C, 1811K
*Cast iron melting point - 1150-1200C, about 300C lower than pure iron
*From [http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070329141828AAaJfps]:
**Steel is iron and up to 2.0% carbon without any other alloying elements
**Above 2.0% C we are dealing with cast iron. Cast iron tends to be brittle, unless it is ductile cast iron.
**The steel melting point varies between 1540°C and 1400°C, gradually declining with increasing carbon content.

There are a variety of heating techniques used to get steel hot enough to melt, including:
* fuel burning
* electric induction heating
* electric microwave heating
* electric arc heating
* concentrated solar

== heating techniques ==

=== Heat Requirement Calculations ===

*Based on the specific heat of iron and its melting temperature, the energy requirements for meling iron are calculated:

*Converting this to fuel requirements based on the energy content of fuels for a give weight of fuel, we can calculate the amount of fuel required for melting. Heat losses such as total inefficiencies of heat transfer to the metal need to be included:

One source claims a production capacity of 700 lb/hour in a 175kW furnace.<ref name="LFYP"></ref>
**Based on this explicit value, basic extrapolation can be done to figure out the amount of fuel required to provide this heat via simple burning. If [[LifeTrac]] burns under 1 gallon of fuel per hour, and it has a total energy use (including thermal waste) of about 100 kW, this indicates that about 2 gallons per hours should suffice to produce 700 of steel per hour. Given inefficiencies - say 50% heat transfer - we should produce 350 lb of steel per hour if we burned fuel for direct heat. The basic figure that arises is about 1 pound of fuel to 20 pounds of melted iron.

=== fuel burning foundry ===

*Flame temperatures from Wikipedia:
[[Image:Flametemp.jpg]]
*Flame temperatures from [http://www.derose.net/steve/resources/engtables/flametemp.html]:
[[Image:flametemps2.jpg]]

[http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/bestfurnace01.html "Oil fired furnace Vs. Small cupola"]
by Lionel Oliver II says that
"melting iron in a crucible with a waste oil burner and melting iron in a cupola with coal or coke ... Overall these two methods are the most practical and economical ways for a hobbyist to melt iron."

Is the [http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/04/weekend_project_30_micro_forge.html "$30 Micro Forge"] big enough to be useful?

====Plans====

Using coke as fuel: "Iron Melting Cupola Furnaces for the Small Foundry" by Steve Chastain[http://www.lindsaybks.com/bks3/chcup/index.html]

Building a Cupola Furnace from loose scrap parts: [http://mervandsheila.net/merv/iron/cupola.html "Building a Cupola"]

*Plans for a 330 lb/hour iron melting foundry - [http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bay-com.com/images/Chastain%2520Cupola.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bay-com.com/index.php%3Fmain_page%3Dproduct_info%26cPath%3D1%26products_id%3D89&usg=__OxK6pdgJw6GCr2yVrr_mqhtiw7Y=&h=400&w=500&sz=61&hl=en&start=12&sig2=VEfN1z8fber8HiCqypupIQ&um=1&tbnid=pkon85dqVixB_M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=130&ei=SP1xSYrlC5LgM67HsRw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfoundry%2Bplans%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:af:official%26sa%3DN]:

[[Image:330foundry.jpg]]

====Is there a way to do an oil-fired steel-melting furnace?====

''Would a [[Babington Burner]] work?
Does this work?
http://thesteelyard.blogspot.com/2008/06/waste-oil-fired-furnace-for-bronze-iron.html

*Oil-fired foundry on Instructables - [http://www.instructables.com/id/SG29NR3FD80X4DN/]

=== induction heating foundry ===
''See the [[Open Source Induction Furnace Project]]''.

The ''Induction Furnace'', aka induction heating foundry.

*College foundry, 100 lb steel or iron, 100 kW induction furnace - [http://www.svsu.edu/set/departments/mechanical-engineering/instructional-facilities/foundry.html]
*Induction Furnace - 40 kW - http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.InductothermInductionFurnaceModel40-96
*Induction 4000 lb for 100kW, or 1000 lb for 25 kW? - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.InductothermAutoPour4000LBS100KW]

*Induction furnaces are well- established for the melting and holding of iron, steel, aluminum, zinc, brass, and copper. High efficiency and the ability to precisely control the rate of heat input make this electric-based technology fully competitive with alternative direct-fired processes in many applications. New developments in variable-fre- quency power supplies, improved refractory linings, high-power inductor designs, furnace heat recovery, and computer control of furnace operations offer the potential for further significant improvements in furnace effi- ciency, productivity, and in the range of materials to which - excellent overview in [http://openfarmtech.org/EPRI_induction.pdf EPRI Center for Materials Production.]
*Another overview by Fairchild Semiconductor Power Division - [http://openfarmtech.org/fairchild_induction.pdf]
*Efficiencies of induction melters is 55-75% - [http://tristate.apogee.net/et/eetdifa.asp]

=== microwave heating foundry ===

*'''Microwave melting - even iron ''' - [http://home.c2i.net/metaphor/mvpage.html]
* Other technology: With the right techniques, a microwave oven can apparently heat glass to its melting point of 1,500 °C. ( [http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2003-09/smelting-microwave PopSci], [http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/02/video-micowave/ Wired], [http://www.wonderhowto.com/topic/fusing-glass-with-microwave-oven/ Howto]). That is slightly more than melting point of steel (more or less 1,400 °C). Is it possible to use similar techniques to form small steel parts in a off-the-shelf microwave?[http://home.c2i.net/metaphor/mvpage.html] Would a thin layer of glass floating on the molten steel help block oxidation?

=== concentrated solar foundry ===

"The maximum temperature the absorber can reach depends on how concentrated the sunlight is.
A very high quality dish reflector could concentrate sunlight up to 10,000 times.
If ordinary sunlight can heat things up to say 60 C (330 K) and the radiated energy rises as a power of 4, such as reflector could produce temperatures 10 times this, 3300 K or 3000 C.
At the maximum temperature the absorber is radiating as much energy as it receives, leaving no energy available to be converted into anything useful like electricity!
To actually get anything out of the concentrator we need the temperature of the absorber to be lower."[http://solavox.com/solconc.html]

For this reason, [[Solar Concentrators]] designed to produce electricity operate at much lower temperatures, and in fact typically have large radiators in order to keep them from getting "too hot" -- a very different design approach than a solar furnace.
''Is it possible to adapt the [[Solar Turbine Prototype at Factor e Farm]] to switch back and forth from directly melting metal in a crucible to generating electricity? Or is a solar turbine so very different from a solar furnace that it would be better to build a completely separate solar furnace?''

Several [[Solar Concentrators]] arrangements appear capable of reaching temperatures high enough to melt iron and steel.[http://www.appropedia.org/Understanding_Solar_Concentrators]
[http://en.allexperts.com/q/Physics-1358/Black-body-radiation.htm]

In theory, the maximum possible temperature of a solar foundry is the same as the temperature of the "surface" of the sun, 5,777 K.
[http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Portable_20solar_20concentrator_20with_20high_20concentration]

"The largest solar furnace in the world is at Odeillo in the Pyrenees-Orientales in France, opened in 1970. ... an area the size of a cooking pot ... can reach 3,500 °C (6,330 °F)" -- [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/solar_furnace Wikipedia: solar furnace]

"Why go to the trouble of building a solar array ... just for melting metal, when you can install a steam turbine and generate and sell electricity?" -- Tim Williams[http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms/Solar_Power.html].
Some advantages of melting metal directly in a solar furnace, rather than indirectly converting solar power to electricity with a [[Solar Turbine]] and then using electric-powered foundry:
* Because a crucible is inherently simpler than a steam engine, it is simpler to build and maintain and lasts longer.
* Because a crucible has very easy tolerances, its capital cost is far less than a steam engine and any kind of electric-powered foundry. (Although it may require more expensive reflectors...)
* a solar furnace is easier to understand, replicate, and scale up or down.

=== electric arc furnace ===

*Arc furnace, 175kW, 700 lb/hour <ref name="LFYP">[http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.DetroitRockingARCFurnaceModelLFYP Detroit Rocking ARC Furnace Model LFYP]: capacity: 700 LBS serie, 175 KW, 440V, 60 HZ</ref>

*ARC, 53kW, 560 lb - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.GASMACElectricResistanceFurnace560LBS]

=Reversion=

Reversion refers to substituting knowhow, raw materials, and labor for off-shelf products. Using this technique, we can make steel-melting crucibles, to reduce costs. Crucibles for 300 pound shots are several hundred dollars. The materials cost about 10x less.

==Crucibles==

Getting the scrap metal into a cold crucible is the easy part.
How do you get the molten metal out of the hot crucible?

*200 lb dipout furnace for sale - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.200LBDipoutFurnace]
*3000F rocker furnace for sale, 750 lb per hour after first heat - electric with 2 electrodes - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.Detroit750LYPRockerFurnace]

Crucibles are made from special clays.
*What is the composition?
** Portland cement, silica sand, perlite and fireclay.[http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/bucketfurnace1.html]
*Where do we procure the materials?
*How do we make the crucible?
*What is the total cost?

=Collaboration Discussions=

'''Letter sent to Paul'''

Could you do a little research on foundries? I put initial info up at:

http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Foundry

We want to melt metal - to cast tractor, steam engine, and CEB press parts. We would like to do that this year. Are you by any chance interested in getting involved in this? The workshop will house the furnace.

If so, please research this and propose the best furnace to use. We want to work with steel - so any iron melting furnace will do. We are looking for a simple, low-cost design that can handle at least 200 pounds per hour, to be effective in casting - say the 2000 lb of a tractor frame - in one day.

The economics involved are producing $1000+ worth of structural steel for parts. This would make it economically feasible to produce tractors, etc - starting from scrap steel.

This would be quite a treat, to show fabrication starting at the cost of scrap metal. It's a possibility, but so far I have not seen an integrated operation that designs, casts, and builds under one roof. There is great potential for efficiency through this process, especially if we have global design sharing, and 3D printing of mold via open source printers such as RepRap. -Marcin

'''Input From Yahoo [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hobbicast/ Home Foundry Group]:'''

''From Mikey''

The method you need to employ isn't a matter of getting the furnace hot enough at all. Take a minute and absorb that basic fact, for steel melts between twenty-six and twenty-eight hundred degrees. Now consider the fact that the even higher furnace temperatures needed to bring a charge up to that range will destroy all but the most expensive furnace refractories, while weakening crucibles to the point where they become rubbery..Iron, on the other hand, melts nicely between nineteen-fifty and twenty-two hundred degrees; a much more comfortable heat range for your equipment.

So, how did industry turn iron into steel about a hundred years back? An oxygen lance was used to burn out excess carbon while simultaneously raising the molten iron to steel liquefying temperatures from the center of the charge, instead of trying to transfer overwhelming temperatures through crucible walls.

Most steel making still uses one form or another of heating steel charges from the center out.

I believe oxygen lances are still the best method for home hobbyists today.

As to Babington burners; I mostly dislike commenting on the competition.

''From Venkat''

Marcin, it is very difficult to melt steel ic oil :gas fired furnace because its melting temp is high as 1500 DEG CENTIGRADE, so pl try with induction of arc furnace only , steel needs some alloying elements like carbon , silicon, etc depending on its usage , you can try to build home made inaction melter, as some ref may be available in intranet, that is the way as for i concerned, Best regards, V;Ganesan;

=Books=

*'''Metallurgy of Iron and Steel''' - [http://books.google.com/books?id=Rh5KAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=%2380+iron+crucible&source=web&ots=rnakcKqZw3&sig=0jrzqDfUfvsxpZQDjL85xWmaSdc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result]
*Google Book, '''Maximum Production in Machine-shop and Foundry''' - 150 lb shots in 1911 foundry took 3.5 hours - with noted low production - [http://books.google.com/books?id=4uUNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=100+lb+foundry&source=bl&ots=S00WtZMGp_&sig=mxtsCMcC5FZVAzF6KeXKIjhRMUs&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA281,M1]

*Google Book, The Foundry, early 1900s, has economics - [http://books.google.com/books?id=FI9NAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA44&lpg=RA2-PA44&dq=productive+value+of+a+foundry&source=web&ots=wR_z29twwO&sig=nPBg7UxB7yj11sXmUydtN-xFjMA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PRA2-PA45,M1]

*'''Principles of Foundry Technology''', Google Book - [http://books.google.com/books?id=k1slD5MmhUMC&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=thermal+efficiency+of+a+foundry&source=bl&ots=U1v2nNJcd0&sig=iQrFmmxyPiLNvAMbvhGwFZvpejA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result#PPA204,M1]

=Links=
<references/>

*Crucibles, furnaces, specs - [http://www.bakerfurnace.com/crucible-furnaces.html]

[[Category:Induction Furnace]][[Category:Metalworks]]

Foundry

2011-02-05T07:27:29Z

Mangobyte: added a link to cupola building instructions

{{Template:Category=Induction furnace}}

== Introduction ==

A foundry is useful for converting otherwise unusable scrap metal into useful metal parts by melting the metal and casting it into desired shapes.

*Steel melts at around 2500F, 1350C, or slightly below pure iron
*Iron melting point - 2800F, 1540C, 1811K
*Cast iron melting point - 1150-1200C, about 300C lower than pure iron
*From [http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070329141828AAaJfps]:
**Steel is iron and up to 2.0% carbon without any other alloying elements
**Above 2.0% C we are dealing with cast iron. Cast iron tends to be brittle, unless it is ductile cast iron.
**The steel melting point varies between 1540°C and 1400°C, gradually declining with increasing carbon content.

There are a variety of heating techniques used to get steel hot enough to melt, including:
* fuel burning
* electric induction heating
* electric microwave heating
* electric arc heating
* concentrated solar

== heating techniques ==

=== Heat Requirement Calculations ===

*Based on the specific heat of iron and its melting temperature, the energy requirements for meling iron are calculated:

*Converting this to fuel requirements based on the energy content of fuels for a give weight of fuel, we can calculate the amount of fuel required for melting. Heat losses such as total inefficiencies of heat transfer to the metal need to be included:

One source claims a production capacity of 700 lb/hour in a 175kW furnace.<ref name="LFYP"></ref>
**Based on this explicit value, basic extrapolation can be done to figure out the amount of fuel required to provide this heat via simple burning. If [[LifeTrac]] burns under 1 gallon of fuel per hour, and it has a total energy use (including thermal waste) of about 100 kW, this indicates that about 2 gallons per hours should suffice to produce 700 of steel per hour. Given inefficiencies - say 50% heat transfer - we should produce 350 lb of steel per hour if we burned fuel for direct heat. The basic figure that arises is about 1 pound of fuel to 20 pounds of melted iron.

=== fuel burning foundry ===

*Flame temperatures from Wikipedia:
[[Image:Flametemp.jpg]]
*Flame temperatures from [http://www.derose.net/steve/resources/engtables/flametemp.html]:
[[Image:flametemps2.jpg]]

[http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/bestfurnace01.html "Oil fired furnace Vs. Small cupola"]
by Lionel Oliver II says that
"melting iron in a crucible with a waste oil burner and melting iron in a cupola with coal or coke ... Overall these two methods are the most practical and economical ways for a hobbyist to melt iron."

Is the [http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/04/weekend_project_30_micro_forge.html "$30 Micro Forge"] big enough to be useful?

====Plans====

Using coke as fuel: "Iron Melting Cupola Furnaces for the Small Foundry" by Steve Chastain[http://www.lindsaybks.com/bks3/chcup/index.html]

Building a Cupola Furnace from loose scrap parts: [http://mervandsheila.net/merv/iron/cupola.html]

*Plans for a 330 lb/hour iron melting foundry - [http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bay-com.com/images/Chastain%2520Cupola.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bay-com.com/index.php%3Fmain_page%3Dproduct_info%26cPath%3D1%26products_id%3D89&usg=__OxK6pdgJw6GCr2yVrr_mqhtiw7Y=&h=400&w=500&sz=61&hl=en&start=12&sig2=VEfN1z8fber8HiCqypupIQ&um=1&tbnid=pkon85dqVixB_M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=130&ei=SP1xSYrlC5LgM67HsRw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfoundry%2Bplans%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:af:official%26sa%3DN]:

[[Image:330foundry.jpg]]

====Is there a way to do an oil-fired steel-melting furnace?====

''Would a [[Babington Burner]] work?
Does this work?
http://thesteelyard.blogspot.com/2008/06/waste-oil-fired-furnace-for-bronze-iron.html

*Oil-fired foundry on Instructables - [http://www.instructables.com/id/SG29NR3FD80X4DN/]

=== induction heating foundry ===
''See the [[Open Source Induction Furnace Project]]''.

The ''Induction Furnace'', aka induction heating foundry.

*College foundry, 100 lb steel or iron, 100 kW induction furnace - [http://www.svsu.edu/set/departments/mechanical-engineering/instructional-facilities/foundry.html]
*Induction Furnace - 40 kW - http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.InductothermInductionFurnaceModel40-96
*Induction 4000 lb for 100kW, or 1000 lb for 25 kW? - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.InductothermAutoPour4000LBS100KW]

*Induction furnaces are well- established for the melting and holding of iron, steel, aluminum, zinc, brass, and copper. High efficiency and the ability to precisely control the rate of heat input make this electric-based technology fully competitive with alternative direct-fired processes in many applications. New developments in variable-fre- quency power supplies, improved refractory linings, high-power inductor designs, furnace heat recovery, and computer control of furnace operations offer the potential for further significant improvements in furnace effi- ciency, productivity, and in the range of materials to which - excellent overview in [http://openfarmtech.org/EPRI_induction.pdf EPRI Center for Materials Production.]
*Another overview by Fairchild Semiconductor Power Division - [http://openfarmtech.org/fairchild_induction.pdf]
*Efficiencies of induction melters is 55-75% - [http://tristate.apogee.net/et/eetdifa.asp]

=== microwave heating foundry ===

*'''Microwave melting - even iron ''' - [http://home.c2i.net/metaphor/mvpage.html]
* Other technology: With the right techniques, a microwave oven can apparently heat glass to its melting point of 1,500 °C. ( [http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2003-09/smelting-microwave PopSci], [http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2008/02/video-micowave/ Wired], [http://www.wonderhowto.com/topic/fusing-glass-with-microwave-oven/ Howto]). That is slightly more than melting point of steel (more or less 1,400 °C). Is it possible to use similar techniques to form small steel parts in a off-the-shelf microwave?[http://home.c2i.net/metaphor/mvpage.html] Would a thin layer of glass floating on the molten steel help block oxidation?

=== concentrated solar foundry ===

"The maximum temperature the absorber can reach depends on how concentrated the sunlight is.
A very high quality dish reflector could concentrate sunlight up to 10,000 times.
If ordinary sunlight can heat things up to say 60 C (330 K) and the radiated energy rises as a power of 4, such as reflector could produce temperatures 10 times this, 3300 K or 3000 C.
At the maximum temperature the absorber is radiating as much energy as it receives, leaving no energy available to be converted into anything useful like electricity!
To actually get anything out of the concentrator we need the temperature of the absorber to be lower."[http://solavox.com/solconc.html]

For this reason, [[Solar Concentrators]] designed to produce electricity operate at much lower temperatures, and in fact typically have large radiators in order to keep them from getting "too hot" -- a very different design approach than a solar furnace.
''Is it possible to adapt the [[Solar Turbine Prototype at Factor e Farm]] to switch back and forth from directly melting metal in a crucible to generating electricity? Or is a solar turbine so very different from a solar furnace that it would be better to build a completely separate solar furnace?''

Several [[Solar Concentrators]] arrangements appear capable of reaching temperatures high enough to melt iron and steel.[http://www.appropedia.org/Understanding_Solar_Concentrators]
[http://en.allexperts.com/q/Physics-1358/Black-body-radiation.htm]

In theory, the maximum possible temperature of a solar foundry is the same as the temperature of the "surface" of the sun, 5,777 K.
[http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Portable_20solar_20concentrator_20with_20high_20concentration]

"The largest solar furnace in the world is at Odeillo in the Pyrenees-Orientales in France, opened in 1970. ... an area the size of a cooking pot ... can reach 3,500 °C (6,330 °F)" -- [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/solar_furnace Wikipedia: solar furnace]

"Why go to the trouble of building a solar array ... just for melting metal, when you can install a steam turbine and generate and sell electricity?" -- Tim Williams[http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms/Solar_Power.html].
Some advantages of melting metal directly in a solar furnace, rather than indirectly converting solar power to electricity with a [[Solar Turbine]] and then using electric-powered foundry:
* Because a crucible is inherently simpler than a steam engine, it is simpler to build and maintain and lasts longer.
* Because a crucible has very easy tolerances, its capital cost is far less than a steam engine and any kind of electric-powered foundry. (Although it may require more expensive reflectors...)
* a solar furnace is easier to understand, replicate, and scale up or down.

=== electric arc furnace ===

*Arc furnace, 175kW, 700 lb/hour <ref name="LFYP">[http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.DetroitRockingARCFurnaceModelLFYP Detroit Rocking ARC Furnace Model LFYP]: capacity: 700 LBS serie, 175 KW, 440V, 60 HZ</ref>

*ARC, 53kW, 560 lb - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.GASMACElectricResistanceFurnace560LBS]

=Reversion=

Reversion refers to substituting knowhow, raw materials, and labor for off-shelf products. Using this technique, we can make steel-melting crucibles, to reduce costs. Crucibles for 300 pound shots are several hundred dollars. The materials cost about 10x less.

==Crucibles==

Getting the scrap metal into a cold crucible is the easy part.
How do you get the molten metal out of the hot crucible?

*200 lb dipout furnace for sale - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.200LBDipoutFurnace]
*3000F rocker furnace for sale, 750 lb per hour after first heat - electric with 2 electrodes - [http://www.ufes.com/index.php?n=Foundry.Detroit750LYPRockerFurnace]

Crucibles are made from special clays.
*What is the composition?
** Portland cement, silica sand, perlite and fireclay.[http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/bucketfurnace1.html]
*Where do we procure the materials?
*How do we make the crucible?
*What is the total cost?

=Collaboration Discussions=

'''Letter sent to Paul'''

Could you do a little research on foundries? I put initial info up at:

http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Foundry

We want to melt metal - to cast tractor, steam engine, and CEB press parts. We would like to do that this year. Are you by any chance interested in getting involved in this? The workshop will house the furnace.

If so, please research this and propose the best furnace to use. We want to work with steel - so any iron melting furnace will do. We are looking for a simple, low-cost design that can handle at least 200 pounds per hour, to be effective in casting - say the 2000 lb of a tractor frame - in one day.

The economics involved are producing $1000+ worth of structural steel for parts. This would make it economically feasible to produce tractors, etc - starting from scrap steel.

This would be quite a treat, to show fabrication starting at the cost of scrap metal. It's a possibility, but so far I have not seen an integrated operation that designs, casts, and builds under one roof. There is great potential for efficiency through this process, especially if we have global design sharing, and 3D printing of mold via open source printers such as RepRap. -Marcin

'''Input From Yahoo [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hobbicast/ Home Foundry Group]:'''

''From Mikey''

The method you need to employ isn't a matter of getting the furnace hot enough at all. Take a minute and absorb that basic fact, for steel melts between twenty-six and twenty-eight hundred degrees. Now consider the fact that the even higher furnace temperatures needed to bring a charge up to that range will destroy all but the most expensive furnace refractories, while weakening crucibles to the point where they become rubbery..Iron, on the other hand, melts nicely between nineteen-fifty and twenty-two hundred degrees; a much more comfortable heat range for your equipment.

So, how did industry turn iron into steel about a hundred years back? An oxygen lance was used to burn out excess carbon while simultaneously raising the molten iron to steel liquefying temperatures from the center of the charge, instead of trying to transfer overwhelming temperatures through crucible walls.

Most steel making still uses one form or another of heating steel charges from the center out.

I believe oxygen lances are still the best method for home hobbyists today.

As to Babington burners; I mostly dislike commenting on the competition.

''From Venkat''

Marcin, it is very difficult to melt steel ic oil :gas fired furnace because its melting temp is high as 1500 DEG CENTIGRADE, so pl try with induction of arc furnace only , steel needs some alloying elements like carbon , silicon, etc depending on its usage , you can try to build home made inaction melter, as some ref may be available in intranet, that is the way as for i concerned, Best regards, V;Ganesan;

=Books=

*'''Metallurgy of Iron and Steel''' - [http://books.google.com/books?id=Rh5KAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=%2380+iron+crucible&source=web&ots=rnakcKqZw3&sig=0jrzqDfUfvsxpZQDjL85xWmaSdc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result]
*Google Book, '''Maximum Production in Machine-shop and Foundry''' - 150 lb shots in 1911 foundry took 3.5 hours - with noted low production - [http://books.google.com/books?id=4uUNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA282&lpg=PA282&dq=100+lb+foundry&source=bl&ots=S00WtZMGp_&sig=mxtsCMcC5FZVAzF6KeXKIjhRMUs&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA281,M1]

*Google Book, The Foundry, early 1900s, has economics - [http://books.google.com/books?id=FI9NAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA44&lpg=RA2-PA44&dq=productive+value+of+a+foundry&source=web&ots=wR_z29twwO&sig=nPBg7UxB7yj11sXmUydtN-xFjMA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PRA2-PA45,M1]

*'''Principles of Foundry Technology''', Google Book - [http://books.google.com/books?id=k1slD5MmhUMC&pg=PA215&lpg=PA215&dq=thermal+efficiency+of+a+foundry&source=bl&ots=U1v2nNJcd0&sig=iQrFmmxyPiLNvAMbvhGwFZvpejA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result#PPA204,M1]

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*Crucibles, furnaces, specs - [http://www.bakerfurnace.com/crucible-furnaces.html]

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Talk:Foundry

2011-02-05T06:51:32Z

Mangobyte: Created page with "Found some interesting information about using loose biomass (composts?) to create bio-cokes. There is a little information here: http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jhts/35/2/3..."

Found some interesting information about using loose biomass (composts?) to create bio-cokes. There is a little information here: http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jhts/35/2/35_97/_article/-char/ja. There are some other articles running around talking about this, but as far as I can tell, they are saying that they were able to successfully create bio-coke at 180 degrees Celsius and 20 MPa (2,900) PSI. If this is correct, then it is doable with an electric or solar oven and a diesel 3,000 PSI air compressor... Again, assuming this actually works, then the fuel problem ceases to be a problem, as you can simply bake loose biomass into usable fuel.

Based on some of the other articles, it looks like this stuff burns hotter than traditional coke, too.. which is weird:

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OSAKA -- A research group from Kinki University, in Osaka, Japan has announced that fuel created from used tea leaves can substitute for coke during iron manufacturing and the casting of iron parts.

Since this new type of fuel is derived from plant matter, burning it results in no net increase of carbon dioxide emissions. In addition, the fuel burns at such a high temperature that iron melts faster in the furnace than with coke. The university group, which conducted experiments in actual furnaces, calculates that fuel using tea leaves can substitute for around 11% of the coke used in furnaces.
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- http://www.allbusiness.com/environment-natural-resources/pollution-environmental/11567692-1.html

Anyone want to get an air-compressor and give this a shot?

Talk:Sun-tracking

2011-02-05T01:30:09Z

Mangobyte: Created page with "I would also recommend including content about passive solar tracking, as this eliminates both electronics and motors from the equation, and makes solar tracking possible with re..."

I would also recommend including content about passive solar tracking, as this eliminates both electronics and motors from the equation, and makes solar tracking possible with relatively basic materials. See the zomeworks tracker for details on this method: http://zomeworks.com/products/pv-trackers. Electronic solar trackers can often provide a 100% increase in photovoltaic efficiency, and passive trackers provide between 45% and 85%, depending on a number of environmental factors, foremost being wind.

However, since they have very few moving parts, and rely on gravity + evaporation to track the sun, they require almost no upkeep. Compared to electronic/motorized trackers, these guys are the epitome of lifetime engineering.