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CEB Masonry Stove

2010-08-18T10:40:34Z

Reto: contact deatils removed

=Introduction=

We are interested in a masonry stove made from CEB block. This is highly experimental - thus it must be kept simple. Nonetheless, we are aiming to have a hybrid wood/Babington flame. The combustion chamber should be designed like a wood stove - with a grate and ash compartment. We are making a mobile Babington burner in a tube or square - such that we can simply insert this into the combustion chamber. To do this, we need a small inlet hole in the door or from the top - for air delivery. We need a small hole from the top for oil delivery. The oil sump can be placed in the ash compartment, or via a tube to the outside. The oil must dribble on the Babington ball from the top. We are considering putting a metal plate on top - for cooking as well.

=Possible Implementations=

There are many details to the above scenario. Here are some variations:

*Basic design - wood oven only, testing the durability of CEB block in high heat conditions.
**What is the simplest implementation of this?
**Could this be as simple as a big CEB box, with metal surface on top?
**If we want the hot air to circulate up and down in the structure, what is the simplest way to do this?
*Basic design with insertable Babington - not much more complex than the first, with the only requirement of air and oil inlet, and provision for collecting of excess oil
*Addition of cooking surface - this makes it more complicated

One way to do a flexible stove is to start by building the chimney - and then stacking movable bricks into a configuration that succeeds in building a successful burning chamber. Then we add a metal door, ash compartment door. We could have a bunch of bricks on hand - and when a successful configuration is achieved, we seal the outer bricks for smoke?

=Simple Implementation=
*Fundament made of one or better two layers of CEBs or concrete
*Walls with CEBs
*Metal plate as cover (for cooking also)
*Way out to the chimney, preferably in the upper part of the back wall
*Plate slide or something similar to close this way out. As soon as the wood has gased out, close the way out to keep the stored heat.
*Removable metal plate as front door
Important: the flue from the burning chamber trough the chimney. Therefore all the joints (walls <-> cover <-> way out) should be mor ore less air-tight. Thats easily done with clay.

=Background=
*For what kind of object will be the masonry stove used, hexayurt, cordwood, CEB house? Wal, thicknes, insulation?
**CEB room
*The dimensions of the room? The rule of thumb here is that 1 kachel (dimensions about 0.2 * 0.22 m) heats 1 m3 of space
**60 by 20 by 10 foot space
*How much time there is for the design and build process?
**We have only 6 weeks as of 9.5.08 to build the shell - but we can work inside on the stove after that
*What are the preferred materials, clay, CEB, concrete ?
**CEB is preferred

=Pictures=
http://s307.photobucket.com/albums/nn307/sashamr/masonry%20stove/
=Examples=
==Available Plans==
See here: http://www.einfaelle-statt-abfaelle.de/index.php?#Ofenbau for:
*Steinöfen setzen
*Steinöfen-Baupläne
*Abwärme-Öfen aus Ziegelsteinen und Lehm
*Öfen ganz aus Lehm gebaut

==Outside bread backing oven==
* [http://www.zunftwissen.org/de/index.php/Projekt_Brotbackofen_RSS_Bergedorf Bread backing oven]
* [http://www.guteshaus.de/lehm/Backofen/Backofen-copyright-by-steffen-mau.html Simple wood fired oven]
* [http://www.any-way-out.de/Lehmofen/hauptteil_lehmofen.html Simple clay oven]
* [http://www.eigen-ofen.de/?l=selbst_gebaut&s=bauanleitung DIYS clay oven]
==Cooking stove==
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt5fT4QbI-I How to build a cooking stove] (video, second half)
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_stove Rocket stove]
=Design Discussion=
==Sasha==
I would suggest most simple design and most appropriate because of the
urgency. Winter is coming and I would hesitate to experiment too much.

There are two ways. Right now, in this situation, If I was on your
place I would make stove like this one:
http://www.envisioneer.net/stove1.htm#

As I see it you cant make any mistake with this. The only possible
problem could be that you should be very careful until its still wet
and not cured totally - water + porous concrete = possible explosion
I don't think very dangerous, but I am not sure, never tested this.
What I like here is the fantastic level of simplicity. What I dont
like is the fact that concrete if we trust the books is not very good
for this because it will suffer from the heat stress. The person who
made it said he is extremely satisfied and didn't have any visible
problems. To his design I would only add firebricks in the fireplace
because thats where the high heat is, perhaps, the second smoke
chamber could be reinforced with roof tiles or even with clay only.
That should make things more durable.
I wouldn't put any babington burner in the fireplace, that sounds very
un-logical to me. If you need that option, and I suggest lets make
first a good wood burning masonry stove, you could put the babington
outside of the fire chamber. Just the flame should go inside and you
have to have a firebrick in the fire-chamber which will dissipate the
flame.
Also I think a babington is not very silent? I would prefer a
babington for a central heating unit.
Anyway you can test this option later.
Second option a simple masonry stove made of bricks. For the building
technique see http://www.dataphone.se/~ncteknik/We_are_setting_up_a_Swedish_ceramic_stove.html
You can see how is he assembling the bricks on the back of the stove.
You should use same or similar technique. I would think that ceb could
act same as those ordinary clay bricks. Is CEB made of clay - whats
the material you made it from?
Clay is a fantastic material for masonry stoves. You almost don't need
anything else. I used it on my stove (some tiles were missing and I
used just pieces of roof tiles with a lot of clay and when it hardened
I had never any problem with it, In fact it seems like the strongest
part of the ceramic stove.

The first stove I suggest should have chanels inside like it is showed
here: http://www.dnr.mo.gov/pubs/pub781.pdf
something like on page 16. You will need to do some cutting of the
bricks and find some firebricks and or clay tiles.
I'll send you a explanation in a form of a picture so you understand
wat i am talking about.
Also for both stoves you need two doors one for the firechamber -
where you throw in wood another small one benetah the first one this
is for the ash tray.

What do you all say?

Sasha
- Show quoted text -

==Reto==

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Marcin Jakubowski
<joseph.dolittle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Reto and Sasha - let's do a development page for the stove on our wiki -
>
> http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=CEB_Masonry_Stove
>
> Reto, your work is exquisite - looks like we don't have nearly as much
> time as you took to do this - we're talking of a quick implementation
> before we freeze here.
>
> Please read what I have there already, and let's come up with a simple
> design. We are talking of starting to build this within a few days.
> Pictures will come as soon as we have something. This could be
> exciting to see this unfold in reality - based on your help.
> Hopefully, we can have an interchangeable Babington burner element in
> adddition to wood fire. It seems that this would not be too difficult.
>
> Marcin
> --
> ----
> A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
> butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
> accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
> give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
> problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
> efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
>
> -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
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> Reto, your work is exquisite - looks like we don't have nearly as much
> time as you took to do this - we're talking of a quick implementation
> before we freeze here.

Understood :-).

> Please read what I have there already, and let's come up with a simple
> design. We are talking of starting to build this within a few days.
> Pictures will come as soon as we have something. This could be
> exciting to see this unfold in reality - based on your help.
> Hopefully, we can have an interchangeable Babington burner element in
> adddition to wood fire. It seems that this would not be too difficult.

I added some links to examples of clay stoves ... unfortunately again
only in German. But there are also pictures.

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Reto Stauss
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I absolutely agree with Sasha about not to use concrete but clay.

> I wouldn't put any babington burner in the fireplace, that sounds very
> un-logical to me.

I also do not see any sense in this ...

> Second option a simple masonry stove made of bricks. For the building
> technique see http://www.dataphone.se/~ncteknik/We_are_setting_up_a_Swedish_ceramic_stove.html
> You can see how is he assembling the bricks on the back of the stove.
> You should use same or similar technique. I would think that ceb could
> act same as those ordinary clay bricks. Is CEB made of clay - whats
> the material you made it from?

Question is: are CEBs robust enough for the heat of a wood fire? More
durable - at least for all surfaces directly in contact with fire -
are firebricks (chamotte).

> The first stove I suggest should have chanels inside like it is showed
> here: http://www.dnr.mo.gov/pubs/pub781.pdf
> something like on page 16. You will need to do some cutting of the
> bricks and find some firebricks and or clay tiles.

With chanels you can maximize the efficiency of the oven because you
keep the hot flue gas longer inside the oven where it can warm the
storing mass. But it is importent to keep the chimney lenght / chanel
lenght ratio bigger than 1.5 (not sure anymore) to have a reasonable
flue.

> Also for both stoves you need two doors one for the firechamber -
> where you throw in wood another small one benetah the first one this
> is for the ash tray.

IMHO you do not need an ash tray. Of course it is comfortable but you
can also scratch the ash directly out of the firechamber.

I hope you can translate this kind of english in something that makes sense ...

Reto

[[Category:CEB]]
[[Category:Housing]]

User:Reto

2009-02-25T12:03:28Z

Reto:

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== Contact ==

E-Mail/Jabber: reto.stauss(@)gmail.com

Skype: rstauss

== Profiles ==

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* on [https://www.xing.com/profile/Reto_Stauss Xing]
* on [http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/987/484 LinkedIn]
* on [http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=772829607 Facebook]

== My websites ==

[http://nachhaltigbeobachtet.ch nachhaltigBeobachtet] - my blog about a sustainable lifestyle (German only)

[http://manufakturingruendung.ch/ Manufaktur in Gründung] (MiG) - Crowd power meets Open Source meets Handcraft

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2009-02-25T11:56:33Z

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== Contact ==

E-Mail/Jabber: reto.stauss(@)gmail.com

Skype: rstauss

== My websites ==

[http://nachhaltigbeobachtet.ch nachhaltigBeobachtet] - my blog about a sustainable lifestyle (German only)

[http://manufakturingruendung.ch/ Manufaktur in Gründung] (MiG) - Crowd power meets Open Source meets Handcraft

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True Fans

2009-02-25T11:54:39Z

Reto:

=Introduction=

True Fans are supporters of the [http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=458 1000 True Fans - 1000 Global Villages campaign ]. Here you can read why people have joined the campaign, as a motivation for you to join if you're not already signed up.

=True Fans=

[[Category:1000 Squared]]

{| style="width:100%"
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| '''Benjamin Kaplin'''
I'm a mechanical engineering student, and I support the OSE because a completed Open Source Village kit would represent several orders of magnitude of improvement over existing projects to improve living conditions around the globe with technology. I grew up reading Stephenson, and one of the most powerful images in his book Diamond Age is The Seed, a nanotechnology McGuffin that one of the main characters devotes his life to that would take the control of production and self-determination out of the hands of the McCorporations and put it into the hands of revolutionaries and the impoverished.
Needless to say, nanotech is still several decades away from that dream, and contributing to the True Fans campaign helps a realistic Seed program without pulling me away from my studies.
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|}

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| '''Marcin Jakubowski''', opensourceecology at gmail dot com, marcin_ose on Skype
I started the campaign because I have observed how little of humanity's true potential has been tapped. Everyone slaves their life away to a system that is crumbling at the seams. I believe that we can all reach absolute prosperity and evolve to freedom - by becoming skilled and productive [[Integrated Humans]], and by helping anyyone else to do the same. History has shown that this is a general formula for lasting prosperity. As long as we're wise, it should be trivial to get beyond the economics of scarcity. We need to show the world how to build the world's first, replicable, open source global village - so anyone who wants to can evolve to freedom.
|[[Image:marcin.jpg|thumb|Marcin Jakubowski]]
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{| style="width:100%"
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| '''Jeremy Mason''', jeremymaso at gmail dot com
On-site at Factor e.
|[[image:jeremy.jpg|thumb|Jeremy Mason]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Scott Akridge'''
As I get older I'm more and more interested in helping people. A couple weeks back I enlisted the help of a friend to help in developing a CEB press when I began doing research and found www.openfarmtech.org with the open source CEB press. I continued looking for more information but kept coming back to this site for more info and learned more about the project and found I wanted to get involved. I started by becoming a member and donating $10 a month with plans to build the CEB press and build a couple structures then make the effort a cooperative. After reading more I've decided to also build a sawmill, assuming I can recruit some help. I think this is a great project and am excited to be a part of it in a small way.
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Toby Martin'''
I support OSE because...
* It's an intelligent and direct effort to address some of the most serious problems we face as individuals and as a society.
* It's one of the most interesting and creative projects I've ever heard of.
* I see no reason in principle that it can't improve people's lives.
* It's actually happening.
|[[Image:TF2.jpg|thumb|Toby Martin]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Lucas González''', imagina (dot) canarias at gmail dot com
I support OSE because both the model and the elements add some important missing pieces to what I perceive is going on.
* I think it's important to have local possibilities for water, food and energy everywhere. Not just at the household level but more importantly at the village or more aggregated levels. Even if you end up buying stuff from elsewhere, it's best if that happens by choice, not by necessity. It was not by choice when things were local by default and it's not by choice now that things are global by default.
* The whole process of open sharing of ideas, processes, know-how is intriguing and, at the very least, extremely fun to watch. (I really wish I had more time to join in myself, but I'm doing things that need doing. So I translate, tell others, and chip in with a little cash, less than what others spend in smoking. My choice.)
* I'm particularly interested in some items for specific locations. Energy for water in sunny places is a must. Shelter and water collection systems. You name it.
* Do we really know how far and how fast this can go? I think there's bound to be a catalitic process so that more and more technologies will come out openly, in an exciting incarnation of the Stone Soup story. So I want to help keep the fire going.
* It really looks like this can be done, should be done, will be done in 2 years. Less than 2 years now. The whole world now has a sense of urgency, I feel. I'd like to see what we can do after this. But the time is ripe for this, now.
* It's interesting to note how open content gives us a sense of ownership. Many have felt that with software. I want to see that with hardware.
|no image yet
|}

'''Joseph Zarr''', joseph.zarr@gmail.com [[Image:DSC_0169.JPG|thumb|Joseph Zarr]]

I am an anthropologist, a farmer, and a permaculturist by training. I support OSE because, well, let's be frank: This is arguably the coolest project on the planet. I am most attracted to Factor E Farm and OSE because of the overall themes of personal improvement (via daily spiritual and physical discipline - in whatever forms a person deems appropriate), human production, and an intertwined personal and community growth. We must collaboratively market the ownership of our futures.

"For less than the price of one coffee per week, for less than the price of one first class stamp per day, you can help change the world. Subscribe!"

As our resource pool dwindles globally, largely due to corporate theft and errant industrial practices, we will have to produce locally and 'in-source'. With a dwindling petroleum base, our dream of cheap energy will disappear. These are simple facts. We must invest human energies in locally-based solutions. We must ignore our propagandized 'reality' and create a meaningful existence together.
With drastically increasing populations (estimated 70 million per year), we must teach ourselves the merits of collaboration, co-housing, and SHARING. My opinion is the era of individualized ownership is archaic and ill-advised. Only by sharing and producing what we actually need, and sharing what we already have (be it skills, books, resources etc.), will we experience the next stage of cultural progress. Hopefully, in the not so distant future our children's hands will not deform due to excessive playing of video games but, rather, they will callous, strengthen and scar due to meaningful labor and a 'hands-on' reality; i.e. literacy, numeracy, production = freedom. The only debts we owe are to ourselves and our community. Let's pay up.

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Josef Davies-Coates'''
I'm founder United Diversity and co-founder of The Open Co-op and support this project because of all the many many VERY cool projects I follow, this is perhaps the most inspiring and important. I can't think of a better way I could possibly spend my money.
|[[Image:|thumb|Josef Davies-Coates]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Reto Stauss''', reto.stauss(at)gmail.com, rstauss on Skype

I am mainly attracted by the momentum this projects develops. And of course because it is not talking but doing. My hope is that inspires my own little project (actually it already did): [http://manufakturingruendung.ch/en open source goods produced by small, agile manufactories]. Lucas, Joseph, sign your points.
|[[Image:Reto.jpg|thumb|Reto Stauss]]
|}

True Fans

2009-02-25T11:47:15Z

Reto:

=Introduction=

True Fans are supporters of the [http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=458 1000 True Fans - 1000 Global Villages campaign ]. Here you can read why people have joined the campaign, as a motivation for you to join if you're not already signed up.

=True Fans=

[[Category:1000 Squared]]

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Benjamin Kaplin'''
I'm a mechanical engineering student, and I support the OSE because a completed Open Source Village kit would represent several orders of magnitude of improvement over existing projects to improve living conditions around the globe with technology. I grew up reading Stephenson, and one of the most powerful images in his book Diamond Age is The Seed, a nanotechnology McGuffin that one of the main characters devotes his life to that would take the control of production and self-determination out of the hands of the McCorporations and put it into the hands of revolutionaries and the impoverished.
Needless to say, nanotech is still several decades away from that dream, and contributing to the True Fans campaign helps a realistic Seed program without pulling me away from my studies.
|[[Image:0213090948.jpg|thumb|Benjamin Kaplin]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Marcin Jakubowski''', opensourceecology at gmail dot com, marcin_ose on Skype
I started the campaign because I have observed how little of humanity's true potential has been tapped. Everyone slaves their life away to a system that is crumbling at the seams. I believe that we can all reach absolute prosperity and evolve to freedom - by becoming skilled and productive [[Integrated Humans]], and by helping anyyone else to do the same. History has shown that this is a general formula for lasting prosperity. As long as we're wise, it should be trivial to get beyond the economics of scarcity. We need to show the world how to build the world's first, replicable, open source global village - so anyone who wants to can evolve to freedom.
|[[Image:marcin.jpg|thumb|Marcin Jakubowski]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Jeremy Mason''', jeremymaso at gmail dot com
On-site at Factor e.
|[[image:jeremy.jpg|thumb|Jeremy Mason]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Scott Akridge'''
As I get older I'm more and more interested in helping people. A couple weeks back I enlisted the help of a friend to help in developing a CEB press when I began doing research and found www.openfarmtech.org with the open source CEB press. I continued looking for more information but kept coming back to this site for more info and learned more about the project and found I wanted to get involved. I started by becoming a member and donating $10 a month with plans to build the CEB press and build a couple structures then make the effort a cooperative. After reading more I've decided to also build a sawmill, assuming I can recruit some help. I think this is a great project and am excited to be a part of it in a small way.
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Toby Martin'''
I support OSE because...
* It's an intelligent and direct effort to address some of the most serious problems we face as individuals and as a society.
* It's one of the most interesting and creative projects I've ever heard of.
* I see no reason in principle that it can't improve people's lives.
* It's actually happening.
|[[Image:TF2.jpg|thumb|Toby Martin]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Lucas González''', imagina (dot) canarias at gmail dot com
I support OSE because both the model and the elements add some important missing pieces to what I perceive is going on.
* I think it's important to have local possibilities for water, food and energy everywhere. Not just at the household level but more importantly at the village or more aggregated levels. Even if you end up buying stuff from elsewhere, it's best if that happens by choice, not by necessity. It was not by choice when things were local by default and it's not by choice now that things are global by default.
* The whole process of open sharing of ideas, processes, know-how is intriguing and, at the very least, extremely fun to watch. (I really wish I had more time to join in myself, but I'm doing things that need doing. So I translate, tell others, and chip in with a little cash, less than what others spend in smoking. My choice.)
* I'm particularly interested in some items for specific locations. Energy for water in sunny places is a must. Shelter and water collection systems. You name it.
* Do we really know how far and how fast this can go? I think there's bound to be a catalitic process so that more and more technologies will come out openly, in an exciting incarnation of the Stone Soup story. So I want to help keep the fire going.
* It really looks like this can be done, should be done, will be done in 2 years. Less than 2 years now. The whole world now has a sense of urgency, I feel. I'd like to see what we can do after this. But the time is ripe for this, now.
* It's interesting to note how open content gives us a sense of ownership. Many have felt that with software. I want to see that with hardware.
|no image yet
|}

'''Joseph Zarr''', joseph.zarr@gmail.com [[Image:DSC_0169.JPG|thumb|Joseph Zarr]]

I am an anthropologist, a farmer, and a permaculturist by training. I support OSE because, well, let's be frank: This is arguably the coolest project on the planet. I am most attracted to Factor E Farm and OSE because of the overall themes of personal improvement (via daily spiritual and physical discipline - in whatever forms a person deems appropriate), human production, and an intertwined personal and community growth. We must collaboratively market the ownership of our futures.

"For less than the price of one coffee per week, for less than the price of one first class stamp per day, you can help change the world. Subscribe!"

As our resource pool dwindles globally, largely due to corporate theft and errant industrial practices, we will have to produce locally and 'in-source'. With a dwindling petroleum base, our dream of cheap energy will disappear. These are simple facts. We must invest human energies in locally-based solutions. We must ignore our propagandized 'reality' and create a meaningful existence together.
With drastically increasing populations (estimated 70 million per year), we must teach ourselves the merits of collaboration, co-housing, and SHARING. My opinion is the era of individualized ownership is archaic and ill-advised. Only by sharing and producing what we actually need, and sharing what we already have (be it skills, books, resources etc.), will we experience the next stage of cultural progress. Hopefully, in the not so distant future our children's hands will not deform due to excessive playing of video games but, rather, they will callous, strengthen and scar due to meaningful labor and a 'hands-on' reality; i.e. literacy, numeracy, production = freedom. The only debts we owe are to ourselves and our community. Let's pay up.

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Josef Davies-Coates'''
I'm founder United Diversity and co-founder of The Open Co-op and support this project because of all the many many VERY cool projects I follow, this is perhaps the most inspiring and important. I can't think of a better way I could possibly spend my money.
|[[Image:|thumb|Josef Davies-Coates]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Reto Stauss''', reto.stauss(at)gmail.com, rstauss on Skype
I am mainly attracted by the momentum this projects develops. And of course because it is not talking but doing. My hope is that inspires my own little project (actually it already did): [http://manufakturingruendung.ch/en open source goods produced by small, agile manufactories]. Lucas, Joseph, sign your points.
|[[Image:Reto.jpg|thumb|Reto Stauss]]
|}

File:Reto.jpg

2009-02-25T11:45:07Z

Reto: Reto Stauss

Reto Stauss

True Fans

2009-02-25T11:43:31Z

Reto: Added myself.

=Introduction=

True Fans are supporters of the [http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=458 1000 True Fans - 1000 Global Villages campaign ]. Here you can read why people have joined the campaign, as a motivation for you to join if you're not already signed up.

=True Fans=

[[Category:1000 Squared]]

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Benjamin Kaplin'''
I'm a mechanical engineering student, and I support the OSE because a completed Open Source Village kit would represent several orders of magnitude of improvement over existing projects to improve living conditions around the globe with technology. I grew up reading Stephenson, and one of the most powerful images in his book Diamond Age is The Seed, a nanotechnology McGuffin that one of the main characters devotes his life to that would take the control of production and self-determination out of the hands of the McCorporations and put it into the hands of revolutionaries and the impoverished.
Needless to say, nanotech is still several decades away from that dream, and contributing to the True Fans campaign helps a realistic Seed program without pulling me away from my studies.
|[[Image:0213090948.jpg|thumb|Benjamin Kaplin]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Marcin Jakubowski''', opensourceecology at gmail dot com, marcin_ose on Skype
I started the campaign because I have observed how little of humanity's true potential has been tapped. Everyone slaves their life away to a system that is crumbling at the seams. I believe that we can all reach absolute prosperity and evolve to freedom - by becoming skilled and productive [[Integrated Humans]], and by helping anyyone else to do the same. History has shown that this is a general formula for lasting prosperity. As long as we're wise, it should be trivial to get beyond the economics of scarcity. We need to show the world how to build the world's first, replicable, open source global village - so anyone who wants to can evolve to freedom.
|[[Image:marcin.jpg|thumb|Marcin Jakubowski]]
|}

{| style="width:100%"
|-valign="top"
| '''Jeremy Mason''', jeremymaso at gmail dot com
On-site at Factor e.
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| '''Scott Akridge'''
As I get older I'm more and more interested in helping people. A couple weeks back I enlisted the help of a friend to help in developing a CEB press when I began doing research and found www.openfarmtech.org with the open source CEB press. I continued looking for more information but kept coming back to this site for more info and learned more about the project and found I wanted to get involved. I started by becoming a member and donating $10 a month with plans to build the CEB press and build a couple structures then make the effort a cooperative. After reading more I've decided to also build a sawmill, assuming I can recruit some help. I think this is a great project and am excited to be a part of it in a small way.
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| '''Toby Martin'''
I support OSE because...
* It's an intelligent and direct effort to address some of the most serious problems we face as individuals and as a society.
* It's one of the most interesting and creative projects I've ever heard of.
* I see no reason in principle that it can't improve people's lives.
* It's actually happening.
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| '''Lucas González''', imagina (dot) canarias at gmail dot com
I support OSE because both the model and the elements add some important missing pieces to what I perceive is going on.
* I think it's important to have local possibilities for water, food and energy everywhere. Not just at the household level but more importantly at the village or more aggregated levels. Even if you end up buying stuff from elsewhere, it's best if that happens by choice, not by necessity. It was not by choice when things were local by default and it's not by choice now that things are global by default.
* The whole process of open sharing of ideas, processes, know-how is intriguing and, at the very least, extremely fun to watch. (I really wish I had more time to join in myself, but I'm doing things that need doing. So I translate, tell others, and chip in with a little cash, less than what others spend in smoking. My choice.)
* I'm particularly interested in some items for specific locations. Energy for water in sunny places is a must. Shelter and water collection systems. You name it.
* Do we really know how far and how fast this can go? I think there's bound to be a catalitic process so that more and more technologies will come out openly, in an exciting incarnation of the Stone Soup story. So I want to help keep the fire going.
* It really looks like this can be done, should be done, will be done in 2 years. Less than 2 years now. The whole world now has a sense of urgency, I feel. I'd like to see what we can do after this. But the time is ripe for this, now.
* It's interesting to note how open content gives us a sense of ownership. Many have felt that with software. I want to see that with hardware.
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'''Joseph Zarr''', joseph.zarr@gmail.com [[Image:DSC_0169.JPG|thumb|Joseph Zarr]]

I am an anthropologist, a farmer, and a permaculturist by training. I support OSE because, well, let's be frank: This is arguably the coolest project on the planet. I am most attracted to Factor E Farm and OSE because of the overall themes of personal improvement (via daily spiritual and physical discipline - in whatever forms a person deems appropriate), human production, and an intertwined personal and community growth. We must collaboratively market the ownership of our futures.

"For less than the price of one coffee per week, for less than the price of one first class stamp per day, you can help change the world. Subscribe!"

As our resource pool dwindles globally, largely due to corporate theft and errant industrial practices, we will have to produce locally and 'in-source'. With a dwindling petroleum base, our dream of cheap energy will disappear. These are simple facts. We must invest human energies in locally-based solutions. We must ignore our propagandized 'reality' and create a meaningful existence together.
With drastically increasing populations (estimated 70 million per year), we must teach ourselves the merits of collaboration, co-housing, and SHARING. My opinion is the era of individualized ownership is archaic and ill-advised. Only by sharing and producing what we actually need, and sharing what we already have (be it skills, books, resources etc.), will we experience the next stage of cultural progress. Hopefully, in the not so distant future our children's hands will not deform due to excessive playing of video games but, rather, they will callous, strengthen and scar due to meaningful labor and a 'hands-on' reality; i.e. literacy, numeracy, production = freedom. The only debts we owe are to ourselves and our community. Let's pay up.

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| '''Josef Davies-Coates'''
I'm founder United Diversity and co-founder of The Open Co-op and support this project because of all the many many VERY cool projects I follow, this is perhaps the most inspiring and important. I can't think of a better way I could possibly spend my money.
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| '''Reto Stauss''', reto.stauss(at)gmail.com, rstauss on Skype
I am mainly attracted by the momentum this projects develops. And of course because it is not talking but doing. My hope is that inspires my own little project (actually it already did): [http://manufakturingruendung.ch/en open source goods produced by small, agile manufactories]. Lucas, Joseph, sign your points.
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CEB Masonry Stove

2008-10-03T11:30:50Z

Reto: /* Cooking stove */

CEB Masonry Stove

2008-10-03T11:07:15Z

Reto: /* Cooking stove */

CEB Masonry Stove

2008-10-03T11:04:53Z

Reto: /* Outside bread backing oven */

CEB Masonry Stove

2008-10-03T09:27:52Z

Reto: /* Possible Implementations */

Talk:CEB Masonry Stove

2008-10-03T09:09:56Z

Reto: New page: IMHO we are talking about a clay oven not stone.--~~~~

IMHO we are talking about a clay oven not stone.--[[User:Reto|Reto]] 02:09, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

CEB Masonry Stove

2008-10-03T09:09:12Z

Reto: