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		<updated>2011-09-26T23:43:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* Team Culturing Information */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=43139</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-26T23:41:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* WHY are you motivated to support/develop this work? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Actually, I&#039;m a &amp;quot;true fan&amp;quot;, and just wanted to support the OSE effort!  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting and I will give it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=43138</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-26T23:39:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* WHAT are your skills? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Actually, I&#039;m a &amp;quot;true fan&amp;quot;, and just wanted to support the OSE effort!  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way, and I had some friction there with one of the officers, so if you do contact them, it&#039;s probably better to not mention my name... that was years ago and they probably don&#039;t remember me anyways.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting and I will give it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=43137</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=43137"/>
		<updated>2011-09-26T23:39:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* WHY are you motivated to support/develop this work? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Actually, I&#039;m a &amp;quot;true fan&amp;quot;, and just wanted to support the OSE effort!  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way, and I had some friction there with one of the officers, so if you do contact them, it&#039;s probably better to not mention my name... that was years ago and they probably don&#039;t remember me anyways.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting and I will give it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=43136</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=43136"/>
		<updated>2011-09-26T23:37:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* WHO are you? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, some of the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, may take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way, and I had some friction there with one of the officers, so if you do contact them, it&#039;s probably better to not mention my name... that was years ago and they probably don&#039;t remember me anyways.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting and I will give it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: uploaded a new version of &amp;amp;quot;File:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg&amp;amp;quot;: Reverted to version as of 14:26, 9 September 2011&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Robert Holder Portrait&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Photographs of People]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=40959</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=40959"/>
		<updated>2011-09-14T13:24:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* HOW can you help? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;  robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve MIG welded a few times, and got to play with a plasma cutter once--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, some of the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, may take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way, and I had some friction there with one of the officers, so if you do contact them, it&#039;s probably better to not mention my name... that was years ago and they probably don&#039;t remember me anyways.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Not sure at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Interesting and I will give it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: uploaded a new version of &amp;amp;quot;File:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg&amp;amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Robert Holder Portrait&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=40332</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=40332"/>
		<updated>2011-09-11T12:14:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: profile change&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;  robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve MIG welded a few times, and got to play with a plasma cutter once--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, some of the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, may take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way, and I had some friction there with one of the officers, so if you do contact them, it&#039;s probably better to not mention my name... that was years ago and they probably don&#039;t remember me anyways.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I apologize, I should probably have gone and familiarized myself with more of the project before creating this page.  But from what I have seen in this wiki, and the videos, I know this is a project I want to contribute to.  I will have to figure out what form that will take.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.  Perhaps in the future.  I am ten hours away by car, in the Denver metro area, so it may be possible at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in 2012, if I am in better physical shape then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That is very exciting, and a big commitment.  I will definitely be giving it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39935</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39935"/>
		<updated>2011-09-09T15:50:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: added clarification to my profile&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;  robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve MIG welded a few times, and got to play with a plasma cutter once--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My wife and I are working on a simple little open source software project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtcritters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, some of the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, may take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way, and I had some friction there with one of the officers, so if you do contact them, it&#039;s probably better to not mention my name... that was years ago and they probably don&#039;t remember me anyways.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I apologize, I should probably have gone and familiarized myself with more of the project before creating this page.  But from what I have seen in this wiki, and the videos, I know this is a project I want to contribute to.  I will have to figure out what form that will take.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.  Perhaps in the future.  I am ten hours away by car, in the Denver metro area, so it may be possible at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in 2012, if I am in better physical shape then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That is very exciting, and a big commitment.  I will definitely be giving it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39928</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39928"/>
		<updated>2011-09-09T15:26:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: added url to my profile&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;  robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve MIG welded a few times, and got to play with a plasma cutter once--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
My wife and I are working on a simple little open source software project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtcritters&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, some of the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, may take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I apologize, I should probably have gone and familiarized myself with more of the project before creating this page.  But from what I have seen in this wiki, and the videos, I know this is a project I want to contribute to.  I will have to figure out what form that will take.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.  Perhaps in the future.  I am ten hours away by car, in the Denver metro area, so it may be possible at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in 2012, if I am in better physical shape then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That is very exciting, and a big commitment.  I will definitely be giving it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39927</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39927"/>
		<updated>2011-09-09T15:23:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: changed wording in my profile&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;  robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve MIG welded a few times, and got to play with a plasma cutter once--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, some of the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, may take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I apologize, I should probably have gone and familiarized myself with more of the project before creating this page.  But from what I have seen in this wiki, and the videos, I know this is a project I want to contribute to.  I will have to figure out what form that will take.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.  Perhaps in the future.  I am ten hours away by car, in the Denver metro area, so it may be possible at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in 2012, if I am in better physical shape then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That is very exciting, and a big commitment.  I will definitely be giving it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39926</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39926"/>
		<updated>2011-09-09T15:15:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: changed wording&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;  robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve welded a few times--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, some of the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, may take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oh yeah, one thing that occurred to me when I used to daydream about starting something like this:  getting in good with the locals near your farm is obviously a good idea.  Having a summer barbeque or picnic or something for just locals, getting on the local volunteer fire department, donating surplus food to the local foodbank or schools... whatever you can do to make the locals happy you are there is a good thing, and that goodwill may be money in the bank down the road.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I apologize, I should probably have gone and familiarized myself with more of the project before creating this page.  But from what I have seen in this wiki, and the videos, I know this is a project I want to contribute to.  I will have to figure out what form that will take.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.  Perhaps in the future.  I am ten hours away by car, in the Denver metro area, so it may be possible at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in 2012, if I am in better physical shape then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That is very exciting, and a big commitment.  I will definitely be giving it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39925</id>
		<title>Robert Holder</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Robert_Holder&amp;diff=39925"/>
		<updated>2011-09-09T15:08:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: Filled out survey.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[Image:RobertHolderPortrait.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;:  Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;:  Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;  robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve welded a few times--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that &#039;&#039;somebody already owns all the land&#039;&#039;, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is &#039;&#039;very hard work&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, will take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE might need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Hm.  Well I think it&#039;s a great idea, and I&#039;m very enthusiastic about it.  It&#039;s easy to fantasize about getting involved, but from experience I know that the reality of joining something like this is pretty demanding.  I will definitely be thinking about it though.  It is a worthwhile idea, but it requires some serious commitment, and I currently have a number of other life priorities right now.  I will be thinking about how I could help, and how much time I have to put towards that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s great that you guys are focusing on funding so you can keep moving forward, but I would suggest that you should spend some energy trying to find some lawyers who would be willing to do some pro bono work for you, specifically on anticipating liability issues, if you haven&#039;t already done that.  You might get in touch with the DPW people at Burningman, they have quite a bit of experience with volunteers coming on-site, and the issues there, including experience with injuries and people getting killed onsite, if I was informed correctly.  I can think of other concerns, but I haven&#039;t thought them through well enough to discuss them at this time. email &amp;quot;site at burningman dot com&amp;quot; and they can put you in touch with whoever is in charge of DPW these days, and maybe they could give you some helpful tips on this.  I am no longer involved with burningman in any way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never, never, never, never quit.&amp;quot;  -- Winston Churchill :-)  You guys seem to be very sharp, and focused on execution.  You have clearly given this a lot more thought than I ever did, so I can&#039;t say I have any brilliant suggestions at this time, but if I think of anything I&#039;ll contribute.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unix Systems Administration, TCP/IP Network Engineer, ten years.  Really rusty these days though.&lt;br /&gt;
Wife and I tried to start an online business, which ultimately failed, but was a big learning experience.&lt;br /&gt;
Hobbyist level familiarity with auto mechanics, electronics, ceramics (art not engineering), carpentry, soldering, welding... home DIY stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
My grandmother maintained a quarter-acre food crop on her ranch when I was a kid and I helped with that one summer.&lt;br /&gt;
On the down-side, I am overweight and out of shape now... however I am trying to remedy that.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Well I signed up for the True Fan thing.  Not much but every bit helps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I apologize, I should probably have gone and familiarized myself with more of the project before creating this page.  But from what I have seen in this wiki, and the videos, I know this is a project I want to contribute to.  I will have to figure out what form that will take.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No, not at this time.  Perhaps in the future.  I am ten hours away by car, in the Denver metro area, so it may be possible at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t want any money from you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in 2012, if I am in better physical shape then.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future, not at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
No.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Possibly in the future.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That is very exciting, and a big commitment.  I will definitely be giving it some thought.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
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		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
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		<title>Robert Holder</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-09T14:23:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:http://i.imgur.com/wsEbC.jpg|thumb| Robert Holder]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;: Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;: Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve welded a few times--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that *somebody already owns all the land*, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is *very hard work*.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, will take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE will need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<updated>2011-09-09T14:19:58Z</updated>

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==Team Culturing Information==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHO&#039;&#039;&#039; are you?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Name&#039;&#039;: Robert Holder&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Location (city, country)&#039;&#039;: Westminster, Colorado, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Contact Information (email, skype, phone)&#039;&#039;robert.d.holder at comcast dot net&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Picture&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Introductory Video&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Resume/CV&#039;&#039;:  Former UNIX Sysadmin, TCP/IP Network Engineer.  I have also done a little work on cars, particularly the &#039;69 VW Beetle I used to have.  I&#039;m not any expert mechanic, but I&#039;ve turned some wrenches.  A little carpentry, I&#039;ve welded a few times--I like learning tools and making things.  Oh, and I&#039;m self-cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHY&#039;&#039;&#039; are you motivated to support/develop this work?===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Do you endorse open source culture?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
I guess out of gratitude for all the free software tools I have used in my life, and out of respect for their makers.  And because it creates a climate where the people who have the knowledge make the design decisions, not some roomful of marketing wonks.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Why are you interested in collaborating with us?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
When I graduated from college, a life as a wage slave was not appealing to me, but I quickly realized that *somebody already owns all the land*, so there was no clear way to opt out of consumer culture.  I understood the problem as Marcin sees it, but I never sat down and made enough effort to try to solve it: it was easier to just get a job, watch TV and drink beer.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I immediately recognized what Marcin was doing and why when I saw his TED talk.  I think it&#039;s a great idea, and it&#039;s about time somebody made a real effort to try to approach this problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One thing that keeps occurring to me as I read through this wiki is something my old boss said to me in High School.  He was a framing carpenter, and had been a hippy in the sixties, and had done the &amp;quot;back to the land&amp;quot; thing, lived on a commune, etc.  We were talking about it and I was very curious and excited and asked him why he wasn&#039;t doing that at the time instead of carpentry, and he got a very sober look on his face and explained that, &amp;quot;Raising food out of the land is *very hard work*.&amp;quot;  I realized that there was a big difference between what was in my imagination (freedom, fun, parties and girls) and the reality of it.  That sticks with me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also, to the extent that OSE becomes disruptive of the present system, the people with stakes in the current order, from the local level to the global, will take an interest in trying to disrupt the OSE efforts.  That&#039;s something to plan for.  I imagine a time may come when OSE will need more lawyers than fundraisers and engineers.  :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How do you think that the GVCS can address pressing world issues?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
It&#039;s an exciting take on this problem, and one I don&#039;t believe anyone has tried yet.  It may give the ability for a certain kind of person to demonstrate that the default path through life in Industrial Culture does not need to be the only one.  But it will only appeal to certain kinds of people, especially at first.  Maybe it makes me a &amp;quot;bad person&amp;quot;, but to be honest, I don&#039;t spend as much time thinking about &amp;quot;pressing world issues&amp;quot; as I once did.  I really just want to use the time I have left on this Earth as wisely as I can, and by my reckoning, that is really about focusing on the things I can affect:  my wife and the people I am loyal to.  Whether that makes me a cynic or a realist remains to be seen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What should happen so that you become more involved with the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What is missing in the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;What are your suggestions for improvement of the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;&#039;WHAT&#039;&#039;&#039; are your skills?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;List all of your skills in these areas: Communications - Organizational - Computer Support - Finances - Design - Natural Building - Electronics - Automation - Metallurgy - Engineering - Fabrication - Agriculture - Energy - Architecture - Video/Graphics/Art - PR/Marketing - Education - Construction - Industry - CNC - Chemistry - Product Design - Other&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How have you already contributed to the project?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===HOW can you help?===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;How are you interested in contributing to the work of GVCS development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Can you volunteer to work with us, and if so, how many hours per week?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in working with us for pay? If so, what services can you offer, and what is your hourly or per-project rate?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in a [[Dedicated Project Visit]]?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in purchasing equipment from us to help bootstrap development?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in bidding for consulting/design/prototyping work?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you a [[True Fans|True Fan]]? If not, why not?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Would you like to see yourself working with us on a full-time basis?&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Are you interested in being part of the world&#039;s first, open source, resilient community? The GVCS is the preparatory step for the OSE Village Experiment – a 2 year, immersion experiment (2013-2014) for testing whether a real, thriving, modern-day prototype community of 200 people can be built on 200 acres using local resources and open access to information? We are looking for approximately 200 people to fill a diverse array of roles, according to the Social Contract that is being developed. This may be the boldest social experiment on earth - a pioneering community whose goal is to extend the index of possibilities regarding harmonious existence of humans, ecology, and technology.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Team Culturing]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Core_Team&amp;diff=39921</id>
		<title>Core Team</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-09T13:33:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* Voluntary Participation and Stakeholder Values */ &amp;quot;members understand&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;members understands&amp;quot; :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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==What is this about?==&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Open Source Ecology project is now recruiting people for the &amp;quot;Core Team&amp;quot;, that will both spearhead and guide development of products shown in [[Overview]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;The rest of this page explains what would be involved in joining the Core Team. If you have additional questions, or are interested in participating, please contact [mailto:joseph.dolittle@gmail.com Marcin Jakubowski]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Core Team Duties==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Core Team is the organizational heart of OSE&#039;s product development. The Core Team leads the development of each of the 7 product areas shown in the [[Overview]]. The Core Team is responsible for producing the due diligence and engineering- specifications, designs, fabrication procedure, bill of materials, peer reviews - to make prospective supporters sufficiently confident to support the products in development.&lt;br /&gt;
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Core team members should have technical expertise, but it is not necessary. We are interested more in people who can solve problems. The nature of our appropriate technology (AT) development is such that the material, by nature of AT - is simple, user friendly, and intuitive. It may be said that the utter simplicity is the hallmark of a great product. Therefore, only the most fundamental knowledge, at the level of high school physics and mathematics, is necessary for the core team. Part of being on the Core Team means that the member learns the additional knowledge necessary for high-level development.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Voluntary Participation and Stakeholder Values===&lt;br /&gt;
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Core Team participation is strictly voluntary. However, we aim to build a core team with an inherently high interest, or stakeholdership, in the success of the products being developed. This means that Core Team members:&lt;br /&gt;
#Are interested in building a given product from open source documentation&lt;br /&gt;
#Are interested in purchasing a given product according to the &#039;&#039;price structure&#039;&#039; discussed below&lt;br /&gt;
#Are interested in producing the product that is being developed&lt;br /&gt;
#Have higher ethical, transformative, and other reasons for being attracted to product development&lt;br /&gt;
We are looking for Core Team members who understand the entirely voluntary nature of this economic development process. First attention is given to openness and replicability, based on a fundamental transformative potential. We are proposing an explicit approach and path to transform the current economic paradigm, from a race to the bottom to the economics of abundance. We believe firmly that material provision of needs - energy, food, housing, etc. - can operate within an economy of abundance. We are focusing on linking visionary economic development with an explicit program based on economically-significant products.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Specific Duties===&lt;br /&gt;
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The specific path of our product development is &#039;&#039;&#039;cycles&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;steps&#039;&#039;&#039; within these cycles. The typical cycles and steps are shown in this diagram:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Steps and Cycles.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The cycles follow a standard type of product development: prototypes, optimization, and fabrication. The additional twists that we provide are:&lt;br /&gt;
#We are funding the product development &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; fabrication facility entirely with voluntary donations from stakeholders&lt;br /&gt;
#We are inherently interested in replicating our enterprise concepts by serving as a business incubator with apprenticeship training.&lt;br /&gt;
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The particular steps for each cycle are described further at [[Main Page#OSE Product Cycle]], and the actual web interface that we are designing is at [[Ecotechnology_Buying_Club]]. Note that we can propose only a general outline of the steps, as development processes will rarely fall into such neat order. This is where the problem-solving ability of the Core Team must enter to provide appropriate guidance to the project.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Core Team Number and Duration==&lt;br /&gt;
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The number of people on the core team should be small - perhaps up to 25 or so people - for purposes of easy collaboration. This number may increase as the project grows. If you are reading this, we are probably trying to recruit you to serve on the Core Team. We are interested in using a Wikipedia-like model - where we gather a core team of distillers who add value to information from a large number of sources.  The main difference between our model and Wikipedia is that Wikipedia gets &#039;&#039;unsolicited&#039;&#039;, voluntary contributions of content. We will &#039;&#039;solicit&#039;&#039; those contributions of information in our product development effort, since our contributions are of a far more directed (though not necessarily more technical, as Wikipedia has some very technical content) nature. This is not to say that there will not be unsolicited input, but  that the goal-oriented, specific nature of development requires content solicitation.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Core Team should be small, but funding contributors should be many. The Core Team should be sufficient only to recruit the fundraising team to point potential stakeholders to our development efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
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We foresee that the Core Team will also be dynamic. Voluntary participants may leave or enter at any time under the agreement being described here.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Scope of Product Development==&lt;br /&gt;
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The OSE product development effort is unique in that it does not stop with the development of a good product. We continue for the sake of replicability, such that the products developed can enjoy a wider audience. &#039;&#039;&#039;We continue&#039;&#039;&#039; our product development process to the &#039;&#039;&#039;design and building of a production facility&#039;&#039;&#039;, such that people who support our effort can later have access to products at reasonable cost. Not only this, but also, one of our inherent goals is &#039;&#039;&#039;optimization&#039;&#039;&#039; of the product and its production process. To introduce the possibility of even wider markets, we are also designing a training and apprenticeship program. We aim to train other entrepreneurs in the production of products, and as such, our work constitutes a business incubator. Because we aim to train others, we are introducing the possibility of production levels similar to mass production methods, except with the participation of a large number of producers. We call this &#039;&#039;&#039;open franchising&#039;&#039;&#039; - giving away the business concept free of charge, and training people to become producers. Because we are focusing on optimization for cost reduction, we believe that we can compete with the mainstream market, without any ecological or geopolitical compromises.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Price Structure of Developed Products==&lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, we pay attention to the bottom line. Because the product development process and fabrication facility is microfunded collaboratively, our capitalization costs are zero. Therefore, we can focus on maximum service to the consumer. With this in mind, our products will be sold at cost: at the cost of materials plus labor. How can we survive doing this? We are still capturing the high value of skilled labor, at $50-100 per hour. This is a reasonable figure. To begin with, general labor is $50 at a typical machine shop or garage. Since we are aiming for advanced, digital fabrication techniques, our productivity is extremely high, and the $50-100 is worth it. To give an example, our [[CEB Press]] costs $1350 in materials and we predict 20 hours of labor for optimized fabrication. If we charged $50-100/hour in labor, that would make the product price $2350-$3350 - which is about a factor of 8-10 lower than the competition (see discussion at [[CEB Press]]. This shows that there is plenty of room for the producer to capture value, while the customer comes out ahead as well. This scenario is possible once optimal fabrication procedures are developed, a goal which we take as a premise for our work.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Additional notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sam Rose]] is working on http://socialsynergyweb.org/opensourceecology/ as a space for coordinating core teams, Core Team members should visit this site regularly&lt;br /&gt;
*In order to appreciate the nature of the economic model that we are testing, and Core Team members should start with http://p2pfoundation.net/Neocommercialization , and this definition should evolve to help communicate the model&lt;br /&gt;
*In order for projects to accelerate talk into action, we are proposing the [http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Category:Zero_Hour Zero_Hour concept].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Application==&lt;br /&gt;
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If you agree to the above terms and are interested in becoming part of the Core Team, please email joseph.dolittle at gmail.com for an application. The information collected in the application is intended to facilitate core team interaction.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
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		<title>Power Cube</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-09T13:24:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Robert Holder: /* Product Ecology */  fixed &amp;quot;itteration&amp;quot; typo&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:PowerCube.jpg|thumb|400px|PowerCube II]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Power Cube is a modular, universal, self-contained power unit that consists of an engine coupled to a hydraulic pump for providing power in the form of hydraulic fluid at high pressure through quick connect hoses. It is designed to function as a modular power solution for GVCS technologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Product Ecology==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:6b-Powercubeeco.png|thumb|600px|Power Cube [[Product Ecology]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The current iteration of the power cube is an [[Power_Cube/Bill_of_Materials|off-the-shelf gasoline engine]] but the design is intended to be as power source agnostic as possible. There will likely be many variations on the power cube design, but all fitting inside a similar size profile.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Powered by&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gasoline]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biodiesel]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Steam Engine]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Steam Generator]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gasifier Burner]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pelletizer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Provides Power to&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tractor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CEB Press]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bulldozer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[MicroTrac]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bulldozer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Car]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Truck]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hammermill]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drill Press]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lathe]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Welder]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironworker]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sawmill]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Induction Furnace]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Torch Table]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Features==&lt;br /&gt;
The Power Cube was designed in accordance with [[OSE Specifications]] for maximum utility. The Power Cube features...&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Modularity&#039;&#039;&#039; - String multiple power cubes together for increased [[hydraulic power]].&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Flexibility&#039;&#039;&#039; - Quick Connect hoses and [[Quick Attach Plate]] enable extreme flexibility to place power wherever it is needed.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Ease of Repair&#039;&#039;&#039; - All engine components are easily accessible and fast to replace/repair with off-the-shelf parts or locally produced equipment.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Specifications==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other==&lt;br /&gt;
*Goals&lt;br /&gt;
*Features&lt;br /&gt;
*General design goals &lt;br /&gt;
*Maintenance&lt;br /&gt;
*Evolution&lt;br /&gt;
*Attachments on Other Machines&lt;br /&gt;
*Cost Comparisons to Industrial Counterparts&lt;br /&gt;
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===Video===&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FceP-LCSpQ&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded#at=68 Introduction to the Power Cube Design] (1 min 59 sec)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnROs7dfFM Power Cube Complete] (5 min 6 sec)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://blip.tv/file/2295563?utm_source=player_embedded Power Cube] (3 min 30 sec)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://vimeo.com/15892882 Build Instructions] (50 min 27 sec)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Status==&lt;br /&gt;
Currently, the Power Cube is on its fourth prototype, and has been successfully tested with the [[Tractor]], [[CEB]], [[MicroTrac]], [[Drill Press]], and [[Welder]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Power Cubes are being actively manufactured at [[Factor e Farm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=814 Announcement blog post]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Power Cube]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:GVCS]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Robert Holder</name></author>
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