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		<title>Roof</title>
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		<updated>2012-01-04T16:34:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: /* Fibre reinforced cement corrugated sheet. */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A roof is one of the most key aspects of a building. If you were to think of a building as roughly composed of three components: the floor, the walls, and the roof, you&#039;d generally find the roof to be the most costly and difficult to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any decent roof must withstand the following for 20 years, minimum, while still remaining water/wind tight:&lt;br /&gt;
*full sun, including both high temperatures and UV rays&lt;br /&gt;
*high wind gusts&lt;br /&gt;
*rain - must be water tight&lt;br /&gt;
*be &amp;quot;wind tight&amp;quot; or otherwise control airflow&lt;br /&gt;
*heavy snow loads, at least a foot or two&lt;br /&gt;
*ice, hail&lt;br /&gt;
*freeze/thaw cycling&lt;br /&gt;
*strong enough to walk on&lt;br /&gt;
*resist mold/moss&lt;br /&gt;
*either insulate the building or protect insulation under it&lt;br /&gt;
*generally provide structural support for the walls and be able to span a significant distance&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Roofs are a challenge. They&#039;ve been made of copper, lead, slate, stone slabs and domes, cedar, concrete, and more. They&#039;re also one of the most basic elements of shelter, and a requirement when building one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are two parts to a roof - the support, and the outer layer. While the support does have heavy structural requirements, lumber generally does quite a good job. Other alternatives are steel beams and trusses, wood/steel/concrete columns, and steel cabling, among others. The outer layer is generally the more difficult part because it needs to satisfy the requirements listed above, over a large area for a long period of time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently the GVCS seems to be lacking provisions for a roofing system. The reality is, we need not only one but a number of them - different geographical locations have both different materials available and different requirements.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Sign your name by putting four tildas (~) in a row in the brainstorming area.&lt;br /&gt;
==Outer layer==&lt;br /&gt;
===Wooden shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Machine to make wooden shingles? [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Concrete shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Concrete shingles are great in terms of durability. However, they do require a stronger support structure. I think all that&#039;s really needed is a mold, vibration mechanism, and perhaps a press to make the shingles. They need to be able to stay together physically until the concrete cures, because it isn&#039;t feasible to have a large number of molds. Obviously concrete mixer would be nice. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:17, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cast concrete tiles.===&lt;br /&gt;
There are relatively small companies making these in Asia. The tile is cast in an mould made of cheap injection moulded plastic and is painted in the factory with weather resistant paints. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Asians make relativity heavy roofs with timber frames made of short pieces of timber that are interlocked loosely but not pinned or nailed. These move in earthquakes to dissipate the forces in the quake rather than not moving and eventually failing. The tiles on the gable ends and corners are heavier. This resists wind driven lifting forces in gales and Typhoons [hurricanes]. The typical Chinese convex roof also resists typhoon winds by converting the aerodynamic forces from lifting into forces pushing down. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where high winds and earth quakes are a potential problem, adopting these designs for the roof should help. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The moulds can be made from cast concrete with two layers of plastic seating separating the mould from  the casting. Cheep plastic moulds can be made from scrap plastic by chipping and pressing while heating. Several hundred would be made to support a suitable tile production run. Once the moulds are made they can be reused repeatedly. The Storage of unused moulds may require a sizeable shed. &lt;br /&gt;
[My spell checker is having a fit over the differences in how we spell mold/mould. lol.] [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 16:42, 4 January 2012 (CET)       &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Thread about metal lath making machine to make cheap laminated [[ferrocement]] thin skin structures [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/discussion/214/open-source-metal-lath-making-machine]. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Fibre reinforced cement corrugated sheet.===&lt;br /&gt;
E.F. Schumacher the inspired Intermediate Technology Materials Workshop (I.P.M. parry and associates) to develop the corrugated sheet maker that is now used in the third world and China. This technology used 1 bag of cement and 1kg of fibre  to make 5 1m x 0.75 m corrugated sheets. Fibres were sisal, coconut coir, jute, banana fibre.  Production rate was 25 to 30 sheets a day with 4 men. Very labour intensive. Shredded plastic waste has been used more recently. Should work with hemp in temperate zones. It may work with willow switch based fibres and switch-grass. Both need to be tested. There are international standards for most materials now. http://www.cd3wd.com/CD3WD_40/CD3WD/CONSTRUC/SK12SE/EN/B1552_9.HTM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Chinese have been mass producing these little machines for a few years now (2012).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
Full technology links [I own a copy of this book and highly recommend it ]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/2.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/9.7.html#Jsk01ae.9.7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/9.8.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 17:12, 4 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Support==&lt;br /&gt;
===Saw mill===&lt;br /&gt;
I think the saw mill is pretty good for the support component of the roof. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Metal lath can be used for making [[ferrocement]] beams as well. See the metal lath section in the outer layer section above. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Housing and construction]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Condensation==&lt;br /&gt;
With any of these materials it is important to consider where the dew point will be and make sure that moisture doesn&#039;t condense on support beams.  In most standard construction, there is a water proof membrane which separates the point in the roof where dew condenses and the support beams.  Tar paper or rubber are typically used, but these won&#039;t be easy to come by with OSE tools.  Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?  I can&#039;t seem to find any roofs that don&#039;t have rubber or tar paper, even in green design books! --[[User:Zdwiel|Zdwiel]] 18:13, 16 September 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Roof&amp;diff=50911</id>
		<title>Roof</title>
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		<updated>2012-01-04T16:33:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: /* Fibre reinforced cement corrugated sheet. */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A roof is one of the most key aspects of a building. If you were to think of a building as roughly composed of three components: the floor, the walls, and the roof, you&#039;d generally find the roof to be the most costly and difficult to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any decent roof must withstand the following for 20 years, minimum, while still remaining water/wind tight:&lt;br /&gt;
*full sun, including both high temperatures and UV rays&lt;br /&gt;
*high wind gusts&lt;br /&gt;
*rain - must be water tight&lt;br /&gt;
*be &amp;quot;wind tight&amp;quot; or otherwise control airflow&lt;br /&gt;
*heavy snow loads, at least a foot or two&lt;br /&gt;
*ice, hail&lt;br /&gt;
*freeze/thaw cycling&lt;br /&gt;
*strong enough to walk on&lt;br /&gt;
*resist mold/moss&lt;br /&gt;
*either insulate the building or protect insulation under it&lt;br /&gt;
*generally provide structural support for the walls and be able to span a significant distance&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Roofs are a challenge. They&#039;ve been made of copper, lead, slate, stone slabs and domes, cedar, concrete, and more. They&#039;re also one of the most basic elements of shelter, and a requirement when building one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are two parts to a roof - the support, and the outer layer. While the support does have heavy structural requirements, lumber generally does quite a good job. Other alternatives are steel beams and trusses, wood/steel/concrete columns, and steel cabling, among others. The outer layer is generally the more difficult part because it needs to satisfy the requirements listed above, over a large area for a long period of time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently the GVCS seems to be lacking provisions for a roofing system. The reality is, we need not only one but a number of them - different geographical locations have both different materials available and different requirements.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Sign your name by putting four tildas (~) in a row in the brainstorming area.&lt;br /&gt;
==Outer layer==&lt;br /&gt;
===Wooden shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Machine to make wooden shingles? [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Concrete shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Concrete shingles are great in terms of durability. However, they do require a stronger support structure. I think all that&#039;s really needed is a mold, vibration mechanism, and perhaps a press to make the shingles. They need to be able to stay together physically until the concrete cures, because it isn&#039;t feasible to have a large number of molds. Obviously concrete mixer would be nice. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:17, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cast concrete tiles.===&lt;br /&gt;
There are relatively small companies making these in Asia. The tile is cast in an mould made of cheap injection moulded plastic and is painted in the factory with weather resistant paints. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Asians make relativity heavy roofs with timber frames made of short pieces of timber that are interlocked loosely but not pinned or nailed. These move in earthquakes to dissipate the forces in the quake rather than not moving and eventually failing. The tiles on the gable ends and corners are heavier. This resists wind driven lifting forces in gales and Typhoons [hurricanes]. The typical Chinese convex roof also resists typhoon winds by converting the aerodynamic forces from lifting into forces pushing down. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where high winds and earth quakes are a potential problem, adopting these designs for the roof should help. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The moulds can be made from cast concrete with two layers of plastic seating separating the mould from  the casting. Cheep plastic moulds can be made from scrap plastic by chipping and pressing while heating. Several hundred would be made to support a suitable tile production run. Once the moulds are made they can be reused repeatedly. The Storage of unused moulds may require a sizeable shed. &lt;br /&gt;
[My spell checker is having a fit over the differences in how we spell mold/mould. lol.] [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 16:42, 4 January 2012 (CET)       &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Thread about metal lath making machine to make cheap laminated [[ferrocement]] thin skin structures [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/discussion/214/open-source-metal-lath-making-machine]. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Fibre reinforced cement corrugated sheet.===&lt;br /&gt;
E.F. Schumacher the inspired Intermediate Technology Materials Workshop (I.P.M. parry and associates) to develop the corrugated sheet maker that is now used in the the third world. This technology used 1 bag of cement and 1kg of fibre  to make 5 1m x 0.75 m corrugated sheets. Fibres were sisal, coconut coir, jute, banana fibre.  Production rate was 25 to 30 sheets a day with 4 men. Very labour intensive. Shredded plastic waste has been used more recently. Should work with hemp in temperate zones. It may work with willow switch based fibres and switch-grass. Both need to be tested. There are international standards for most materials now. http://www.cd3wd.com/CD3WD_40/CD3WD/CONSTRUC/SK12SE/EN/B1552_9.HTM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Chinese have been mass producing these little machines for a few years now (2012).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
Full technology links [I own a copy of this book and highly recommend it ]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/2.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/9.7.html#Jsk01ae.9.7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/9.8.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 17:12, 4 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Support==&lt;br /&gt;
===Saw mill===&lt;br /&gt;
I think the saw mill is pretty good for the support component of the roof. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Metal lath can be used for making [[ferrocement]] beams as well. See the metal lath section in the outer layer section above. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Housing and construction]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Condensation==&lt;br /&gt;
With any of these materials it is important to consider where the dew point will be and make sure that moisture doesn&#039;t condense on support beams.  In most standard construction, there is a water proof membrane which separates the point in the roof where dew condenses and the support beams.  Tar paper or rubber are typically used, but these won&#039;t be easy to come by with OSE tools.  Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?  I can&#039;t seem to find any roofs that don&#039;t have rubber or tar paper, even in green design books! --[[User:Zdwiel|Zdwiel]] 18:13, 16 September 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Roof&amp;diff=50908</id>
		<title>Roof</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Roof&amp;diff=50908"/>
		<updated>2012-01-04T16:17:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: /* Fibre reinforced cement corrugated sheet. */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A roof is one of the most key aspects of a building. If you were to think of a building as roughly composed of three components: the floor, the walls, and the roof, you&#039;d generally find the roof to be the most costly and difficult to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any decent roof must withstand the following for 20 years, minimum, while still remaining water/wind tight:&lt;br /&gt;
*full sun, including both high temperatures and UV rays&lt;br /&gt;
*high wind gusts&lt;br /&gt;
*rain - must be water tight&lt;br /&gt;
*be &amp;quot;wind tight&amp;quot; or otherwise control airflow&lt;br /&gt;
*heavy snow loads, at least a foot or two&lt;br /&gt;
*ice, hail&lt;br /&gt;
*freeze/thaw cycling&lt;br /&gt;
*strong enough to walk on&lt;br /&gt;
*resist mold/moss&lt;br /&gt;
*either insulate the building or protect insulation under it&lt;br /&gt;
*generally provide structural support for the walls and be able to span a significant distance&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Roofs are a challenge. They&#039;ve been made of copper, lead, slate, stone slabs and domes, cedar, concrete, and more. They&#039;re also one of the most basic elements of shelter, and a requirement when building one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are two parts to a roof - the support, and the outer layer. While the support does have heavy structural requirements, lumber generally does quite a good job. Other alternatives are steel beams and trusses, wood/steel/concrete columns, and steel cabling, among others. The outer layer is generally the more difficult part because it needs to satisfy the requirements listed above, over a large area for a long period of time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently the GVCS seems to be lacking provisions for a roofing system. The reality is, we need not only one but a number of them - different geographical locations have both different materials available and different requirements.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Sign your name by putting four tildas (~) in a row in the brainstorming area.&lt;br /&gt;
==Outer layer==&lt;br /&gt;
===Wooden shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Machine to make wooden shingles? [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Concrete shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Concrete shingles are great in terms of durability. However, they do require a stronger support structure. I think all that&#039;s really needed is a mold, vibration mechanism, and perhaps a press to make the shingles. They need to be able to stay together physically until the concrete cures, because it isn&#039;t feasible to have a large number of molds. Obviously concrete mixer would be nice. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:17, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cast concrete tiles.===&lt;br /&gt;
There are relatively small companies making these in Asia. The tile is cast in an mould made of cheap injection moulded plastic and is painted in the factory with weather resistant paints. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Asians make relativity heavy roofs with timber frames made of short pieces of timber that are interlocked loosely but not pinned or nailed. These move in earthquakes to dissipate the forces in the quake rather than not moving and eventually failing. The tiles on the gable ends and corners are heavier. This resists wind driven lifting forces in gales and Typhoons [hurricanes]. The typical Chinese convex roof also resists typhoon winds by converting the aerodynamic forces from lifting into forces pushing down. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where high winds and earth quakes are a potential problem, adopting these designs for the roof should help. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The moulds can be made from cast concrete with two layers of plastic seating separating the mould from  the casting. Cheep plastic moulds can be made from scrap plastic by chipping and pressing while heating. Several hundred would be made to support a suitable tile production run. Once the moulds are made they can be reused repeatedly. The Storage of unused moulds may require a sizeable shed. &lt;br /&gt;
[My spell checker is having a fit over the differences in how we spell mold/mould. lol.] [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 16:42, 4 January 2012 (CET)       &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Thread about metal lath making machine to make cheap laminated [[ferrocement]] thin skin structures [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/discussion/214/open-source-metal-lath-making-machine]. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Fibre reinforced cement corrugated sheet.===&lt;br /&gt;
E.F. Schumacher the inspired Intermediate Technology Materials Workshop (I.P.M. parry and associates) to develop the corrugated sheet maker that is now used in the the third world. This technology used 1 bag of cement and 1kg of fibre  to make 5 1m x 0.75 m corrugated sheets. Fibres were sisal, coconut coir and jute. Should work with hemp in temperate zones.  Production rate was 25 to 30 sheets a day with 4 men. Very labour intensive. Shredded plastic waste has been used more recently. It may work with willow switch based fibres and switch-grass. Both need to be tested. thee are international standards for most materials now. http://www.cd3wd.com/CD3WD_40/CD3WD/CONSTRUC/SK12SE/EN/B1552_9.HTM&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Chinese have been mass producing these little machines for a few years now (2012).&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/9.7.html#Jsk01ae.9.7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
See the resources section for the full technology links. [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 17:12, 4 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Support==&lt;br /&gt;
===Saw mill===&lt;br /&gt;
I think the saw mill is pretty good for the support component of the roof. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Metal lath can be used for making [[ferrocement]] beams as well. See the metal lath section in the outer layer section above. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Housing and construction]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Condensation==&lt;br /&gt;
With any of these materials it is important to consider where the dew point will be and make sure that moisture doesn&#039;t condense on support beams.  In most standard construction, there is a water proof membrane which separates the point in the roof where dew condenses and the support beams.  Tar paper or rubber are typically used, but these won&#039;t be easy to come by with OSE tools.  Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?  I can&#039;t seem to find any roofs that don&#039;t have rubber or tar paper, even in green design books! --[[User:Zdwiel|Zdwiel]] 18:13, 16 September 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Roof&amp;diff=50905</id>
		<title>Roof</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Roof&amp;diff=50905"/>
		<updated>2012-01-04T16:12:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: /* Metal lath for laminated ferrocement */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A roof is one of the most key aspects of a building. If you were to think of a building as roughly composed of three components: the floor, the walls, and the roof, you&#039;d generally find the roof to be the most costly and difficult to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any decent roof must withstand the following for 20 years, minimum, while still remaining water/wind tight:&lt;br /&gt;
*full sun, including both high temperatures and UV rays&lt;br /&gt;
*high wind gusts&lt;br /&gt;
*rain - must be water tight&lt;br /&gt;
*be &amp;quot;wind tight&amp;quot; or otherwise control airflow&lt;br /&gt;
*heavy snow loads, at least a foot or two&lt;br /&gt;
*ice, hail&lt;br /&gt;
*freeze/thaw cycling&lt;br /&gt;
*strong enough to walk on&lt;br /&gt;
*resist mold/moss&lt;br /&gt;
*either insulate the building or protect insulation under it&lt;br /&gt;
*generally provide structural support for the walls and be able to span a significant distance&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Roofs are a challenge. They&#039;ve been made of copper, lead, slate, stone slabs and domes, cedar, concrete, and more. They&#039;re also one of the most basic elements of shelter, and a requirement when building one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are two parts to a roof - the support, and the outer layer. While the support does have heavy structural requirements, lumber generally does quite a good job. Other alternatives are steel beams and trusses, wood/steel/concrete columns, and steel cabling, among others. The outer layer is generally the more difficult part because it needs to satisfy the requirements listed above, over a large area for a long period of time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently the GVCS seems to be lacking provisions for a roofing system. The reality is, we need not only one but a number of them - different geographical locations have both different materials available and different requirements.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Sign your name by putting four tildas (~) in a row in the brainstorming area.&lt;br /&gt;
==Outer layer==&lt;br /&gt;
===Wooden shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Machine to make wooden shingles? [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Concrete shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Concrete shingles are great in terms of durability. However, they do require a stronger support structure. I think all that&#039;s really needed is a mold, vibration mechanism, and perhaps a press to make the shingles. They need to be able to stay together physically until the concrete cures, because it isn&#039;t feasible to have a large number of molds. Obviously concrete mixer would be nice. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:17, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cast concrete tiles.===&lt;br /&gt;
There are relatively small companies making these in Asia. The tile is cast in an mould made of cheap injection moulded plastic and is painted in the factory with weather resistant paints. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Asians make relativity heavy roofs with timber frames made of short pieces of timber that are interlocked loosely but not pinned or nailed. These move in earthquakes to dissipate the forces in the quake rather than not moving and eventually failing. The tiles on the gable ends and corners are heavier. This resists wind driven lifting forces in gales and Typhoons [hurricanes]. The typical Chinese convex roof also resists typhoon winds by converting the aerodynamic forces from lifting into forces pushing down. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where high winds and earth quakes are a potential problem, adopting these designs for the roof should help. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The moulds can be made from cast concrete with two layers of plastic seating separating the mould from  the casting. Cheep plastic moulds can be made from scrap plastic by chipping and pressing while heating. Several hundred would be made to support a suitable tile production run. Once the moulds are made they can be reused repeatedly. The Storage of unused moulds may require a sizeable shed. &lt;br /&gt;
[My spell checker is having a fit over the differences in how we spell mold/mould. lol.] [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 16:42, 4 January 2012 (CET)       &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Thread about metal lath making machine to make cheap laminated [[ferrocement]] thin skin structures [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/discussion/214/open-source-metal-lath-making-machine]. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Fibre reinforced cement corrugated sheet.===&lt;br /&gt;
E.F. Schumacher the inspired Intermediate Technology Materials Workshop (I.P.M. parry and associates) the development of a corrugated sheet maker that is now used in the the third world. This technology used 1 bag of cement and 1kg of fibre  to make 5 1m x 0.75 m corrugated sheets. Fibres were sisal, coconut coir and jute. Should work with hemp in temperate zones.  Production rate was 25 to 30 sheets a day with 4 men. Very labour intensive. Shredded plastic waist has been used more recently. The Chinese have been mass producing these little machines for a few years now(2012).&lt;br /&gt;
http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jsk01ae/9.7.html#Jsk01ae.9.7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
See the resources section for the full technology links. [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 17:12, 4 January 2012 (CET)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Support==&lt;br /&gt;
===Saw mill===&lt;br /&gt;
I think the saw mill is pretty good for the support component of the roof. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Metal lath can be used for making [[ferrocement]] beams as well. See the metal lath section in the outer layer section above. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Housing and construction]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Condensation==&lt;br /&gt;
With any of these materials it is important to consider where the dew point will be and make sure that moisture doesn&#039;t condense on support beams.  In most standard construction, there is a water proof membrane which separates the point in the roof where dew condenses and the support beams.  Tar paper or rubber are typically used, but these won&#039;t be easy to come by with OSE tools.  Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?  I can&#039;t seem to find any roofs that don&#039;t have rubber or tar paper, even in green design books! --[[User:Zdwiel|Zdwiel]] 18:13, 16 September 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Roof&amp;diff=50899</id>
		<title>Roof</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Roof&amp;diff=50899"/>
		<updated>2012-01-04T15:42:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: /* Outer layer */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;A roof is one of the most key aspects of a building. If you were to think of a building as roughly composed of three components: the floor, the walls, and the roof, you&#039;d generally find the roof to be the most costly and difficult to make.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Any decent roof must withstand the following for 20 years, minimum, while still remaining water/wind tight:&lt;br /&gt;
*full sun, including both high temperatures and UV rays&lt;br /&gt;
*high wind gusts&lt;br /&gt;
*rain - must be water tight&lt;br /&gt;
*be &amp;quot;wind tight&amp;quot; or otherwise control airflow&lt;br /&gt;
*heavy snow loads, at least a foot or two&lt;br /&gt;
*ice, hail&lt;br /&gt;
*freeze/thaw cycling&lt;br /&gt;
*strong enough to walk on&lt;br /&gt;
*resist mold/moss&lt;br /&gt;
*either insulate the building or protect insulation under it&lt;br /&gt;
*generally provide structural support for the walls and be able to span a significant distance&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Roofs are a challenge. They&#039;ve been made of copper, lead, slate, stone slabs and domes, cedar, concrete, and more. They&#039;re also one of the most basic elements of shelter, and a requirement when building one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are two parts to a roof - the support, and the outer layer. While the support does have heavy structural requirements, lumber generally does quite a good job. Other alternatives are steel beams and trusses, wood/steel/concrete columns, and steel cabling, among others. The outer layer is generally the more difficult part because it needs to satisfy the requirements listed above, over a large area for a long period of time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Currently the GVCS seems to be lacking provisions for a roofing system. The reality is, we need not only one but a number of them - different geographical locations have both different materials available and different requirements.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Brainstorming=&lt;br /&gt;
Sign your name by putting four tildas (~) in a row in the brainstorming area.&lt;br /&gt;
==Outer layer==&lt;br /&gt;
===Wooden shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Machine to make wooden shingles? [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Concrete shingle maker===&lt;br /&gt;
Concrete shingles are great in terms of durability. However, they do require a stronger support structure. I think all that&#039;s really needed is a mold, vibration mechanism, and perhaps a press to make the shingles. They need to be able to stay together physically until the concrete cures, because it isn&#039;t feasible to have a large number of molds. Obviously concrete mixer would be nice. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:17, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Cast concrete tiles.===&lt;br /&gt;
There are relatively small companies making these in Asia. The tile is cast in an mould made of cheap injection moulded plastic and is painted in the factory with weather resistant paints. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Asians make relativity heavy roofs with timber frames made of short pieces of timber that are interlocked loosely but not pinned or nailed. These move in earthquakes to dissipate the forces in the quake rather than not moving and eventually failing. The tiles on the gable ends and corners are heavier. This resists wind driven lifting forces in gales and Typhoons [hurricanes]. The typical Chinese convex roof also resists typhoon winds by converting the aerodynamic forces from lifting into forces pushing down. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where high winds and earth quakes are a potential problem, adopting these designs for the roof should help. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The moulds can be made from cast concrete with two layers of plastic seating separating the mould from  the casting. Cheep plastic moulds can be made from scrap plastic by chipping and pressing while heating. Several hundred would be made to support a suitable tile production run. Once the moulds are made they can be reused repeatedly. The Storage of unused moulds may require a sizeable shed. &lt;br /&gt;
[My spell checker is having a fit over the differences in how we spell mold/mould. lol.] [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 16:42, 4 January 2012 (CET)       &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Thread about metal lath making machine to make cheap laminated [[ferrocement]] thin skin structures [http://openfarmtech.org/forum/discussion/214/open-source-metal-lath-making-machine]. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Support==&lt;br /&gt;
===Saw mill===&lt;br /&gt;
I think the saw mill is pretty good for the support component of the roof. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
===Metal lath for laminated ferrocement===&lt;br /&gt;
Metal lath can be used for making [[ferrocement]] beams as well. See the metal lath section in the outer layer section above. [[User:Jason|Jason]] 22:14, 28 May 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Housing and construction]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Condensation==&lt;br /&gt;
With any of these materials it is important to consider where the dew point will be and make sure that moisture doesn&#039;t condense on support beams.  In most standard construction, there is a water proof membrane which separates the point in the roof where dew condenses and the support beams.  Tar paper or rubber are typically used, but these won&#039;t be easy to come by with OSE tools.  Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?  I can&#039;t seem to find any roofs that don&#039;t have rubber or tar paper, even in green design books! --[[User:Zdwiel|Zdwiel]] 18:13, 16 September 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ziggurat&amp;diff=50895</id>
		<title>Talk:Ziggurat</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ziggurat&amp;diff=50895"/>
		<updated>2012-01-04T15:02:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: Created page with &amp;quot;The main value of ziggurats in Mesopotamia was flood safety. The community could flee up the man made hill when the river flooded. The same is true for some tels and the grand pl...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The main value of ziggurats in Mesopotamia was flood safety. The community could flee up the man made hill when the river flooded. The same is true for some tels and the grand plazas and pyramids of mezo-america. Its believe that in the case of some ziggurats high value items were stored at the top for flood safety and the worship patern was set by these factors. The lower status someone or something was the lower on the stepped levels you got to wait out the flood with whatever belongings you had managed to drag up there. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In areas with high risk of dangerous flooding building raised platforms or ziggurats may be very useful particularly if the lower levels of a hollow ziggurat are limited to flood tolerant spaces. I.e. Sealed water tanks, squash courts and car parks. [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 16:02, 4 January 2012 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ironworker/Research_Development&amp;diff=50881</id>
		<title>Talk:Ironworker/Research Development</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ironworker/Research_Development&amp;diff=50881"/>
		<updated>2012-01-04T13:54:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: Safety considerations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This will need a safety screen around the working area and around any moving arm to be compliant with occupational health and safety regulations in many countries. Some safety screens are free standing and some are attached. A provision for the screen and safety interlocks to ensure that the machine will not work if the screen is not closed in those operations that require it should be coincided. Given the diversity of tasks and working pieces being worked on the screen might need several interchangeable pieces. This might be optional for the buyer/builder but will be needed at the design level to clear any long term legal risk. It will not add hugely to the cost if designed early.[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 14:54, 4 January 2012 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&amp;diff=34829</id>
		<title>Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research Development</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&amp;diff=34829"/>
		<updated>2011-07-26T12:23:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Can this be refactored to a solid design and materials sourcing strategy? - [[Marcin]] 7/18.11 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that is best handled under a seperate page. I&#039;m refactoring with the following intent ...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* 1. [[Nickel-Iron_Battery]] - canonical reference&lt;br /&gt;
* 2. [[Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research]] - reference material: patents, papers, material sources, notes&lt;br /&gt;
* 3. [[Nickel-Iron_Battery/Prototype]] - practical design approach &lt;br /&gt;
* 4. [[Edison_Battery/Manufacture]] - description of Edison&#039;s construction and manufacturing process&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yup, it&#039;s all still pretty rough.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Part of the problem is that we haven&#039;t done enough research yet to pick out practical design. Part of the reason I&#039;m focusing so heavily on Edison&#039;s original design. But ... &amp;quot;Ed&amp;quot; of &amp;quot;Ed&#039;s Workshop&amp;quot; (not OSE) has blazed ahead on prototyping some chemical preparation, anode/cathode design, and cell case form factor. We need to get a grip on his work to see if it&#039;s the most practical form to follow. To put it another way, I don&#039;t know if &#039;we&#039; know enough &#039;&#039;&#039;yet&#039;&#039;&#039; to bridge the gap between commerical-off-the-shelf and a open-source community solution. [[User:Ron Broberg|Ron Broberg]] 15:42, 18 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
Very good research work.  Love the notes and analysis.  A minor suggestion is to clean up links like http://www.nickel-iron-battery.com/ by putting them in brackets like this: [http://www.nickel-iron-battery.com/].  Most of the URLs cited are not human memorable anyways, so why take up screen space with them?  The &amp;quot;footnote&amp;quot; form of the links ]]provided by MediaWiki is a good feature. - [[Mark J Norton]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Punctuation needs to be redone by the author of the last edit. There is none and it makes it difficult to tell where sentences start or finish. There are also spelling error that are in decipherable. The author needs to have a go at learning what capitalisation full stops and word spacing is all about. Otherwise its excellent research but I&#039;m having trouble following it. [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 20:07, 17 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh thanks, Wesley. Seen the note I added to the page.  It was not intended to be a work of art, rather I was using the wiki as part of my workspace, integrating it into the process of what I was doing, instead of using it as a presentation space as is too often done, which in many cases omits important details.  I believe that provides better transparency.   Unfortunately some people are too afraid of being misinterpreted (as you are doing) or embarrassed to do this, which is partly why this place lacks transparency so badly.  I have made a conscious decision not to spend much time on the OSE project anymore due to the management issues.  [[User:Gregortheinventor|Gregor]] 09:31, 18 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
-----&lt;br /&gt;
Gregor, I haven&#039;t been around very long, but I can see that there is a very strange mix of &#039;very complete&#039; and &#039;very incomplete&#039; pages on this wiki. The steam engine is an example of the former. Any page relating to electronics is an example of the later. I certainly appreciate your Ni-Fe materials, but, yeah, it needs to be organized better. OTOH, with the eyes of the innocent, it is obvious which of you have contributed to the topic and which offered insults. Hope you stick around some and I hope you don&#039;t mind some re-org of this page. [[User:Ron Broberg|Ron Broberg]] 11:49, 18 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Ron, pages are looking much nicer - more readable.  Thanks for taking the time to do that.  Hopefully, we can get Gregor to resume contributions.  [[User:Mjn|Mjn]] 19:34, 18 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks gregor. I&#039;m not sure it omits anything. I just found it very hard to use.  [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 14:23, 26 July 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Heat_Transfer_Fluid&amp;diff=34828</id>
		<title>Talk:Heat Transfer Fluid</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Heat_Transfer_Fluid&amp;diff=34828"/>
		<updated>2011-07-26T12:17:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: Created page with &amp;quot;Added solid carriers and zeolites. ~~~~&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Added solid carriers and zeolites. [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 14:17, 26 July 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Heat_Transfer_Fluid&amp;diff=34827</id>
		<title>Heat Transfer Fluid</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Heat_Transfer_Fluid&amp;diff=34827"/>
		<updated>2011-07-26T12:16:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Heat can be stored for later use in a heat transfer fluid. This can overcome the intermittency of solar energy to some extent. Heat from biomass can also be stored in a heat bank, allowing for &amp;quot;cascading&amp;quot; use (example: waste heat from cooking is captured in a chimney and later used to heat up water). Examples of heat transfer fluids are water, molten metals/salts and oils. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Molten Salts and Metals ==&lt;br /&gt;
used in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_breeder (fast) breeder nuclear reactors] &lt;br /&gt;
sodium (Na), potassium (P) or an alloy of these (NaK, pronounced &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;nack&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
molten salts: &lt;br /&gt;
Sodium nitrate - used as heat transfer fluid for large solar thermal installations&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Oils ==&lt;br /&gt;
Vegetable oils can be used as heat transfer fluids. They have high thermal capacity, are often very liquid at high temperature, but may degrade over time and are expensive. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Solid Carriers==&lt;br /&gt;
Some appropriate technology experiments have been done in the 1970-80&#039;s with sand, gravel or bricks as heat transfer items. These are heated in a solar furnace and then transferred to an insulated box for storage. Generally this was for hot box slow cooking of food, bed heating and drying boxes. Its not new some stone-age desert tribes used sun heated rocks to cook and heat at night. Proper insulated containers, heavy insulated tongs and suitable safety clearances, locks and other provisions to keep the kids out are needed. For a high flow application a cable lift or scaled down [[Aerial Ropeways]] in a protective sheath would work. Heat tolerant conveyor belts were tried in the seventies with both sand and gravel. Manual transfer with tongs or long handles will work in testing and the lowest technology application. There&#039;s nothing I can find on the web; Its all very early work.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Zeolites==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the best solid carrier options is zeolites that are heated to drive off water. These store cold indefinitely if sealed properly. If water is later added the thermochemical phase change generates enough heat to cook meals and sterilise water. These are used to cook meals in army field rations. It can generate steam but most of the water in contact with the zeolite is held. Zeolites are found as cat litter, soil conditioners etc but it would be much cheaper to buy wholesale from the bulk miners or find an unclaimed deposit. Not all commercial zeolites exhibit the thermal properties. &lt;br /&gt;
There are also zeolite solar refrigerators. http://refrigerators-appliances.com/246008/what-year-was-the-refrigerator-invented/zeolite-solar-refrigeration.html &lt;br /&gt;
Note: Zeolites also can store gaseous hydrogen. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Product Ecology ==&lt;br /&gt;
* heat sources: solar energy from a [[heliostat]]; also biomass energy &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Solar Combined Heat Power System]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coolant&lt;br /&gt;
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeolite&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Solar Power]] &lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energy]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&amp;diff=33813</id>
		<title>Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research Development</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&amp;diff=33813"/>
		<updated>2011-07-18T03:07:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Very good research work.  Love the notes and analysis.  A minor suggestion is to clean up links like http://www.nickel-iron-battery.com/ by putting them in brackets like this: [http://www.nickel-iron-battery.com/].  Most of the URLs cited are not human memorable anyways, so why take up screen space with them?  The &amp;quot;footnote&amp;quot; form of the links provided by MediaWiki is a good feature. - [[Mark J Norton]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Punctuation needs to be redone by the author of the last edit. There is none and it makes it difficult to tell where sentences start or finish. There are also spelling error that are in decipherable. The author needs to have a go at learning what capitalisation full stops and word spacing is all about. Otherwise its excellent research but I&#039;m having trouble following it. [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 20:07, 17 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33653</id>
		<title>Solar sinter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33653"/>
		<updated>2011-07-15T12:02:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Solar Sintering is a technology that is particularly useful for crafting objects and at the large scale, structures, in dry environments using only sunlight and sand or regolith (rock dust). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Solar energy is simply focused on a small volume of bedded granular material to heat the material to a point where melt occurs and either the grains are bonded at the surface by micro melt grain welding or the whole grain melts and forms a crystal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser - Solar Sinter Project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://vimeo.com/25401444 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also the Gizmag report: Solar-Sinter 3D printer creates glass objects from sun and sand http://www.gizmag.com/solar-sinter-3d-printer/19046/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He can be contacted at [http://www.markuskayser.com/&lt;br /&gt;
]&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser&#039;s creations are rough with some non sintered sand bonded to the surface. In theory this can be fixed by quickly passing the work though the focal point with the plain of the focal point normal to the internal or external surface. A sand blaster could also smooth the works. Markus is an artist, his works will sell better if its clear how they are made. So perfectly smooth is not optimal for him. Nor is it optimal on all sintered applications particularly external bricks. A rough surface casts complex shadow&#039;s on its self when the sun is at an angle to the face this cools the face and reduces glare.     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advantages are that you don&#039;t need water or cement to make solid objects in the desert. The resulting ceramic is one of the strongest known and a refractory material. It endures for millennia and is water proof if crafted properly. The process is not fast; you will need more than one unit to be productive. However the Fresnel lenses are cheap and all the other parts can be built using the existing OS village technology. This technology will not work well above 40 degrees latitude but near the equator, at high altitudes and in most of the worlds sandy deserts it is a game changer. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For efficient village industrial scale production of quartz glass materials, particularly tiles and blocks, several solar sinter units along a conveyor belt would be optimal reducing man handling of hot quartz. Each lens does one layer or one melt width. In some cases three dimensions are not needed I.E. tiles. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shade in the desert is all important. Deserts are not just dry because they get little rainfall.  Dew fall in the cold nights can often be high. They are dry because evaporation rates exceed the little precipitation they get. Creating shade creates oasis&#039;s. With shade water can be accumulated and stored. Plants can grow well if they are shaded in the hottest part of the day, often the afternoon not midday.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has also been work on solar sintering Luna regolith (moon dust or simulated moon dust.) Designs are generally much larger with one design using a mobile mirror array to sinter a road surface! Others are designed to print structural elements. On the moon the light level is several times higher, Luna regolith has a lower melting point and there is no atmosphere to carry away heat so its a much more powerful technology on the moon. [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CBwQFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psicorp.com%2Fpdf%2Flibrary%2Fsr-1435.pdf&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=solar%20sinter%20lunar%20regolith&amp;amp;ei=wo0aTszcN46HmQWgkKj8Dw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNEA3FVBVJCMAsWP2sP5_yoj0Z5ULg&amp;amp;cad=rja] and [http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/HumanExplore/Exploration/EXLibrary/DOCS/EIC049.HTML]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With this technology its possible for a tropical or desert village to make tiles, refractory bricks, bowls and pots, quartz structural elements, rods, blocks, and mouldings. It could even, with a little more work be possible to make linear bearing surfaces, metal casting moulds and fibre glass like sheets with or without perforations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus&#039; process should work on some other material including small grain gravels, scrap glass, and  Calcium carbonates making lime or flint depending on the pressure. It may also be used to cook ores, cracking them, prior to smelting. Milled metal powders and scrap chips should tested both in atmosphere and in a inert or reducing gas to see if the process works for them. It may be possible print (weld) the shape and then pack in sand and heat in a furnace to finalise the form.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proper care should be taken: shade for the workers, protective gloves and tongs, protective goggles or a welders mask may be wise. Markus made his work in the desert look harder than it was to add a little drama.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Materials]][[category:Solar]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33354</id>
		<title>Solar sinter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33354"/>
		<updated>2011-07-13T13:34:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Solar Sintering is a technology that is particularly useful for crafting objects and at the large scale, structures, in dry environments using only sunlight and sand or regolith (rock dust). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Solar energy is simply focused on a small volume of bedded granular material to heat the material to a point where melt occurs and either the grains are bonded at the surface by micro melt grain welding or the whole grain melts and forms a crystal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser - Solar Sinter Project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://vimeo.com/25401444 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also the Gizmag report: Solar-Sinter 3D printer creates glass objects from sun and sand http://www.gizmag.com/solar-sinter-3d-printer/19046/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He can be contacted at [http://www.markuskayser.com/&lt;br /&gt;
]&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser&#039;s creations are rough with some non sintered sand bonded to the surface. In theory this can be fixed by quickly passing the work though the focal point with the plain of the focal point normal to the internal or external surface. A sand blaster could also smooth the works. Markus is an artist, his works will sell better if its clear how they are made. So perfectly smooth is not optimal for him. Nor is it optimal on all sintered applications particularly external bricks. A rough surface casts complex shadow&#039;s on its self when the sun is at an angle to the face this cools the face and reduces glare.     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advantages are that you don&#039;t need water or cement to make solid objects in the desert. The resulting ceramic is one of the strongest known and a refractory material. It endures for millennia and is water proof if crafted properly. The process is not fast; you will need more than one unit to be productive. However the Fresnel lenses are cheap and all the other parts can be built using the existing OS village technology. This technology will not work well above 40 degrees latitude but near the equator, at high altitudes and in most of the worlds sandy deserts it is a game changer. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For efficient village industrial scale production of quartz glass materials, particularly tiles and blocks, several solar sinter units along a conveyor belt would be optimal reducing man handling of hot quartz. Each lens does one layer or one melt width. In some cases three dimensions are not needed I.E. tiles. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shade in the desert is all important. Deserts are not just dry because they get little rainfall.  Dew fall in the cold nights can often be high. They are dry because evaporation rates exceed the little precipitation they get. Creating shade creates oasis&#039;s. With shade water can be accumulated and stored. Plants can grow well if they are shaded in the hottest part of the day, often the afternoon not midday.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has also been work on solar sintering Luna regolith (moon dust or simulated moon dust.) Designs are generally much larger with one design using a mobile mirror array to sinter a road surface! Others are designed to print structural elements. On the moon the light level is several times higher, Luna regolith has a lower melting point and there is no atmosphere to carry away heat so its a much more powerful technology on the moon. [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CBwQFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psicorp.com%2Fpdf%2Flibrary%2Fsr-1435.pdf&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=solar%20sinter%20lunar%20regolith&amp;amp;ei=wo0aTszcN46HmQWgkKj8Dw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNEA3FVBVJCMAsWP2sP5_yoj0Z5ULg&amp;amp;cad=rja] and [http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/HumanExplore/Exploration/EXLibrary/DOCS/EIC049.HTML]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With this technology its possible for a tropical or desert village to make tiles, refractory bricks, bowls and pots, quartz structural elements, rods, blocks, and mouldings. It could even, with a little more work be possible to make linear bearing surfaces, metal casting moulds and fibre glass like sheets with or without perforations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus&#039; process should work on some other material including small grain gravels, scrap glass, and  Calcium carbonates making lime or flint depending on the pressure. It may also be used to cook ores, cracking them, prior to smelting. Milled metal powders and scrap chips should tested both in atmosphere and in a inert or reducing gas to see if the process works for them. It may be possible print (weld) the shape and then pack in sand a heat in a furnace to finalise the form.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proper care should be taken: shade for the workers, protective gloves and tongs, protective goggles or a welders mask may be wise. Markus made his work in the desert look harder than it was to add a little drama.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Materials]][[category:Solar]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33350</id>
		<title>Fuel Alcohol</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33350"/>
		<updated>2011-07-13T11:22:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: /* Ethanol protein by-products use and safety. */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Category=Biofuel}}&lt;br /&gt;
Biofuels - for the temperate climate, alcohol derived from Jerusalem artichokes or waste orchard fruit appears to be the proven, sustainable route of fueling cities. Crop productivity and fuel usage calculations indicate that most cities, worldwide, scale in size in such a fashion that they can produce all their vehicle fuel needs from a land area equivalent to the size of the city - as long as this calculation is not based on the inefficient, though touted, alcohol from corn - but on perennial crops such as Jerusalem artichokes. This would not contribute to the food-or-fuel scenario that detractors of this proposition point out. Key: this is proven technology, and vehicles can run on alcohol with minor modifications. In the tropics, palm oil appears to be the solution for fuel needs, based on yields.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Collaboration=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Engine stills.==&lt;br /&gt;
If ethanol is used to power a stationary engine, or a tractor that needs ballasting, then an engine block still should work. The beer mash is plumbed through the engines cooling system, if your brave, or through a heat exchanger with the engine coolant on the other side. A thermostat keeps the beer at the boiling point of ethanol by diverted some water to the radiator. The ethanol vapour is condensed in a tower condenser on the vehicle or beside the stationary engine. A small insulated tank holds the 100 proof (100%) ethanol for start up in hot or cold weather. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Advantages: &lt;br /&gt;
*The engine is the still using heat that would otherwise be wasted. &lt;br /&gt;
*There&#039;s beer on tap on your tractor. &lt;br /&gt;
Disadvantages; &lt;br /&gt;
*The beer fuel tanks need to be much larger your carrying around a lot of excess weight as water. &lt;br /&gt;
*It smells like a brewery and the fuel tanks will need cleaning. &lt;br /&gt;
*It could fail in cold weather if too much heat from the engine is diverted to heat the cabin of the vehicle or tractor,&lt;br /&gt;
*there&#039;s beer on tap on your tractor.;-) &lt;br /&gt;
The extra weight problem can be solved by partly distilling the beer to 60 Proof (34%) ethanol. It will re-absorb water but that&#039;s not a problem if your using an engine still. A properly insulated flat plate solar collector like a solar hot water system will achieve 60 proof easily. &lt;br /&gt;
None of the above is new every thing has been tried in the 1970&#039;s oil shock, the patents if there are any are not a problem, they will have expired and any slight plumbing change with a real effect will allow a new patent, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 04:01, 13 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ethanol protein by-products use and safety.==&lt;br /&gt;
One key to considerations is the safe handling of the protein by-products.  For every ton of fuel you get a ton a Dry Distillers Grains with Solubles (DDGS). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillers_grains &lt;br /&gt;
A little history: This is what the Bush government botched (to George W&#039;s screaming horror) in the 2005 corn ethanol boom. This is food and always was but it was not cleared fast enough be the FDA for human use so much of it wound up pet food. In Europe more of it made it into the food chain. The food vs fuel debate is moot if your handling the DDGS properly and using it as either human food: Bread, gravy mix, Vegemite, boveral, etc or stock feed. Its a safe protein source: no chance of mad cow disease or problems with toxins in fish meal or overfishing.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
A village scale ethanol plant can easily get its DDGS or even wet distillers grains -- the raw beer mash -- back to live stock after ethanol extraction. An optimal means of storing for human consumption is to dry wet distillers grains to 15% moisture content and freeze it for storage in a cold cellar. Don&#039;t try to augur DDGS it turns to glue. In the Ethanol boom FDA mandates that demanded augurs destroyed dozens if them and bankrupted some producers. A village can have its fuel and eat it too. This allows most grain and starch crops to be used as fuel and food crops simultaneously. If 50% of the effort is put into managing the protein then these by-products can be over 50% of the profits.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A useful book to be added to the library: Sustainable Ethanol by Jeffrey and Adrian Goettemoeller. http://www.sustainableethanol.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 04:01, 13 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==From unidentified collaborator==&lt;br /&gt;
It is legal to make alcohol for fuel - illegal to make it for beverages without a licence.&lt;br /&gt;
An engineering diagram is available on the web for building a distillation unit. Plans are $30.  Materials are $600.  The unit was designed about 30 years ago and can be found in assembled form on Ebay &amp;amp; Craigs list for less than the cost of materials.  You simply Google the model number  &amp;lt;charles 803&amp;gt; to find one.  The equipment could easily be modified slightly and added to the open source inventory.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve spent the last six years trying to develop gaseous fuels into a viable, decentralized fuel source.  These include biogas, process gas and Magnegas.  While useful for many stationary applications, I&#039;ve found them to be impractical for transportation because of their low power density.  The cost of increasing the power density - compressing them or cryogenically condensing them, makes them impractical in my view.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In reviewing the possibilities of liquid fuels, I learned that my bad impressions of ethanol were the result of oil company propaganda - especially the &amp;quot;food vs fuel&amp;quot; issue.  I learned this from Permaculture designer David Blume who wrote the book, [http://www.permaculture.com/ &amp;quot;Alcohol can be a gas&amp;quot;]. See his [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jew3ah24Zj4 YouTube interview] if you wish to pursue this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m writing to you specifically because there are no commercial engines designed to exploit the high octane ratings of alcohol. There are custom-designed units used in racing.  Saab makes a 2-liter roadster that puts out 300 hp. (150 hp/liter) Any ordinary IC engine will run on alcohol but the low  gasoline compression ratio penalizes its fuel economy.  Increase its compression ratio and it approaches diesel in fuel economy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Charles 803 allows you to make consistently pure E85 at the rate of 7.5 gallons per hour from sour milk, cattail rhizomes, fruit processing waste - any source of sugar or starch.  Fuel production is now included in David Blume&#039;s  permaculture garden designs. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See Also: http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/02/biofuels-and-confirmation-bias/ Biofuels and Confirmation Bias&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Review of Project Status==&lt;br /&gt;
== Biofuels - Current Work==&lt;br /&gt;
== Biofuels - Developments Needed== &lt;br /&gt;
=== Biofuels - General===&lt;br /&gt;
=== Biofuels - Specific===&lt;br /&gt;
==== Biofuels - Background Debriefing====&lt;br /&gt;
==== Biofuels - Information Work====&lt;br /&gt;
What is required to distill the alcohol?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where will the energy come from to distill the alcohol?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is the fruit to alcohol ratio?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve visited plum brandy distilleries and they said that it was a 50:1 ratio...--[[User:Dennis|Dennis]] 08:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Biofuels - Hardware Work====&lt;br /&gt;
== Biofuels - Sign-in==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Development Work Template=&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Product Definition]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - General]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - General Scope]] &lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Product Ecology]] &lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Localization]] &lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Scaleability]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Analysis of Scale]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Lifecycle Analysis]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Enterprise Options]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Development Approach]] &lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Timeline]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Development Budget]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Value Spent]] &lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Value available]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Value needed]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Deliverables and Product Specifications]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Industry Standards]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Market and Market Segmentation]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Salient Features and Keys to Success]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Technical Design]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Product System Design]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Diagrams and Conceptual Drawings]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Pattern Language Icons]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Structural Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Funcional or Process Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Workflow]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Technical Issues]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Deployment Strategy]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Performance specifications]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Design Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Yields]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Rates]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Structural Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Power Requirements]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Ergonomics of Production]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels -Time Requirements]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Economic Breakeven Analysis]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Scaleability Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Growth Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Technical Drawings and CAD]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - CAM Files]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Component Design]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Diagrams]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Conceptual drawings]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Performance specifications]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Performance calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Technical drawings and CAD]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - CAM files whenever available]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Subcomponents]] &lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Deployment and Results]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Production steps]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Flexible Fabrication or Production]] &lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Bill of materials]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Pictures and Video]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Data]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Documentation and Education]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Documentation]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Enterprise Plans]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Resource Development]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Identifying Stakeholders]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Information Collaboration]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Wiki Markup]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Addition of Supporting References]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Production of diagrams, flowcharts, 3D computer models, and other qualitative information architecture]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Technical Calculations, Drawings, CAD, CAM, other]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Prototyping]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Preordering working products]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Grantwriting]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Publicity]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - User/Fabricator Training and Accreditation]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Standards and Certification Developmen]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Other]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Grantwriting]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Volunteer grantwriters]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Professional, Outcome-Based Grantwriters]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Collaborative Stakeholder Funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Tool and Material Donations]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Charitable Contributions]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33349</id>
		<title>Talk:Fuel Alcohol</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33349"/>
		<updated>2011-07-13T11:20:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Jerusalem artichokes are good but there are many other highly efficient plants that may not even require propagation or if they do they do not have to be replanted for each crop. Two of them are cattails and Mesquite.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recommend David Blume&#039;s book; &amp;quot;Alcohol Can Be a Gas&amp;quot; it is the definitive work on how to  grow cultivate and produce ethanol efficiently and in a sustainable manner. It can be used in current cars and vehicles including diesels and airplanes etc. and is a high performance renewable clean burning fuel.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No new technology is required and most of the negative stuff you have heard about ethanol is not true.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Three key items need to be added to the design and the Development Work Template. &lt;br /&gt;
Safe handling of the protein by-products. This is what the Bush government botched (to George W screaming horror) in the 2005 corn ethanol boom. For every ton of fuel you get a ton a Dry distillers grains with solubles (DDGS). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillers_grains &lt;br /&gt;
This is food and always was but it was not cleared fast enough be the FDA for human use so much of it wound up pet food. In Europe more of it made it into the food chain. The food vs fuel debate is moot if your handling the DDGS properly and using it as either human food: Bread, gravy mix, vegemite, boveral, etc or stock feed [its a safe protein source]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A village scale ethanol plant can easily get its DDGS or even wet distillers grains -- the raw beer -- back to live stock. An optimal means of storing is to dry wet distillers grains to 15% moisture content and freeze it for storage in a cold cellar. Don&#039;t try to augur DDGS it turns to glue. In the Ethanol boom FDA mandates that demanded augurs destroyed dozens and bankrupted some producers. We can have our fuel and eat it too. This allows most grain and starch crops to be used as fuel and food crops simultaneously.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should I add all this to the main page or is a new page &#039;ethanol by-products&#039; needed?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
If ethanol is used to power a stationary engine or a tractor that needs ballasting then an engine block still should work. The beer mash is plumbed through the engines cooling system, if your brave, or through a heat exchanger with the engine coolant on the other side. A thermostat keeps the beer at the boiling point of ethanol by diverted some water to the radiator. The ethanol vapour is condensed in a tower condenser on the vehicle or beside the stationary engine. A small insulated tank holds the 100 proof (100%) ethanol for start up in hot or cold weather. &lt;br /&gt;
Advantages: The engine is the still using heat that would otherwise be wasted. There&#039;s beer on tap in your tractor.   &lt;br /&gt;
Disadvantages; The beer fuel tanks need to be much larger your carrying around a lot of excess weight as water. It smells like a brewery. and there&#039;s beer on tap in your tractor.;-)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The extra weight problem can be solved by partly distilling the beer to 60 Proof (34%) ethanol. It will re-absorb water but that&#039;s not a problem if your using an engine still. A properly insulated flat plate solar collector like a solar hot water system will achieve 60 proof easily.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
None of the above is new every thing has been tried in the 1970&#039;s oil shock, the patents if there are any are not a problem they will have expired and any slight plumbing change with a real effect will allow a new patent, etc. Should I add all this to the main page or is a new page needed? I&#039;m a Noobie. &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I suggest a book to be added to the library: Sustainable Ethanol by Jeffrey and Adrian Goettemoeller. http://www.sustainableethanol.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, all of this is good stuff and should be added to the main page.  Don&#039;t be shy, this is a meaningful contribution.  Thank you for your efforts!  [[User:Mjn|Mjn]] 05:51, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
PS.  Shift it into third person.  It doesn&#039;t need to be a personal account of your experience.  State the faces and include linked references.  [[User:Mjn|Mjn]] 05:54, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a reason why Fuel Alcohol does not show up in the Category Energy listing on http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Category:Energy page. It also does not show up in searches or give an error. The fact that there are two spellings may be the problem. [[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 04:20, 13 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33347</id>
		<title>Fuel Alcohol</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33347"/>
		<updated>2011-07-13T11:01:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: /* Collaboration */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Category=Biofuel}}&lt;br /&gt;
Biofuels - for the temperate climate, alcohol derived from Jerusalem artichokes or waste orchard fruit appears to be the proven, sustainable route of fueling cities. Crop productivity and fuel usage calculations indicate that most cities, worldwide, scale in size in such a fashion that they can produce all their vehicle fuel needs from a land area equivalent to the size of the city - as long as this calculation is not based on the inefficient, though touted, alcohol from corn - but on perennial crops such as Jerusalem artichokes. This would not contribute to the food-or-fuel scenario that detractors of this proposition point out. Key: this is proven technology, and vehicles can run on alcohol with minor modifications. In the tropics, palm oil appears to be the solution for fuel needs, based on yields.&lt;br /&gt;
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=Collaboration=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Engine stills.==&lt;br /&gt;
If ethanol is used to power a stationary engine, or a tractor that needs ballasting, then an engine block still should work. The beer mash is plumbed through the engines cooling system, if your brave, or through a heat exchanger with the engine coolant on the other side. A thermostat keeps the beer at the boiling point of ethanol by diverted some water to the radiator. The ethanol vapour is condensed in a tower condenser on the vehicle or beside the stationary engine. A small insulated tank holds the 100 proof (100%) ethanol for start up in hot or cold weather. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Advantages: &lt;br /&gt;
*The engine is the still using heat that would otherwise be wasted. &lt;br /&gt;
*There&#039;s beer on tap on your tractor. &lt;br /&gt;
Disadvantages; &lt;br /&gt;
*The beer fuel tanks need to be much larger your carrying around a lot of excess weight as water. &lt;br /&gt;
*It smells like a brewery and the fuel tanks will need cleaning. &lt;br /&gt;
*It could fail in cold weather if too much heat from the engine is diverted to heat the cabin of the vehicle or tractor,&lt;br /&gt;
*there&#039;s beer on tap on your tractor.;-) &lt;br /&gt;
The extra weight problem can be solved by partly distilling the beer to 60 Proof (34%) ethanol. It will re-absorb water but that&#039;s not a problem if your using an engine still. A properly insulated flat plate solar collector like a solar hot water system will achieve 60 proof easily. &lt;br /&gt;
None of the above is new every thing has been tried in the 1970&#039;s oil shock, the patents if there are any are not a problem, they will have expired and any slight plumbing change with a real effect will allow a new patent, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 04:01, 13 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Ethanol protein by-products use and safety.==&lt;br /&gt;
One key to considerations is the safe handling of the protein by-products.  For every ton of fuel you get a ton a Dry Distillers Grains with Solubles (DDGS). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillers_grains &lt;br /&gt;
A little history: This is what the Bush government botched (to George W&#039;s screaming horror) in the 2005 corn ethanol boom. This is food and always was but it was not cleared fast enough be the FDA for human use so much of it wound up pet food. In Europe more of it made it into the food chain. The food vs fuel debate is moot if your handling the DDGS properly and using it as either human food: Bread, gravy mix, Vegemite, boveral, etc or stock feed. Its a safe protein source: no chance of mad cow disease or problems with toxins in fish meal or overfishing.&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
A village scale ethanol plant can easily get its DDGS or even wet distillers grains -- the raw beer mash -- back to live stock after ethanol extraction. An optimal means of storing for human consumption is to dry wet distillers grains to 15% moisture content and freeze it for storage in a cold cellar. Don&#039;t try to augur DDGS it turns to glue. In the Ethanol boom FDA mandates that demanded augurs destroyed dozens if them and bankrupted some producers. A village can have its fuel and eat it too. This allows most grain and starch crops to be used as fuel and food crops simultaneously. If 50% of the effort is put into managing the protein then these by-products can be over 50% of the profits.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 04:01, 13 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==From unidentified collaborator==&lt;br /&gt;
It is legal to make alcohol for fuel - illegal to make it for beverages without a licence.&lt;br /&gt;
An engineering diagram is available on the web for building a distillation unit. Plans are $30.  Materials are $600.  The unit was designed about 30 years ago and can be found in assembled form on Ebay &amp;amp; Craigs list for less than the cost of materials.  You simply Google the model number  &amp;lt;charles 803&amp;gt; to find one.  The equipment could easily be modified slightly and added to the open source inventory.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve spent the last six years trying to develop gaseous fuels into a viable, decentralized fuel source.  These include biogas, process gas and Magnegas.  While useful for many stationary applications, I&#039;ve found them to be impractical for transportation because of their low power density.  The cost of increasing the power density - compressing them or cryogenically condensing them, makes them impractical in my view.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In reviewing the possibilities of liquid fuels, I learned that my bad impressions of ethanol were the result of oil company propaganda - especially the &amp;quot;food vs fuel&amp;quot; issue.  I learned this from Permaculture designer David Blume who wrote the book, [http://www.permaculture.com/ &amp;quot;Alcohol can be a gas&amp;quot;]. See his [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jew3ah24Zj4 YouTube interview] if you wish to pursue this.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m writing to you specifically because there are no commercial engines designed to exploit the high octane ratings of alcohol. There are custom-designed units used in racing.  Saab makes a 2-liter roadster that puts out 300 hp. (150 hp/liter) Any ordinary IC engine will run on alcohol but the low  gasoline compression ratio penalizes its fuel economy.  Increase its compression ratio and it approaches diesel in fuel economy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Charles 803 allows you to make consistently pure E85 at the rate of 7.5 gallons per hour from sour milk, cattail rhizomes, fruit processing waste - any source of sugar or starch.  Fuel production is now included in David Blume&#039;s  permaculture garden designs. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See Also: http://permaculture.org.au/2010/06/02/biofuels-and-confirmation-bias/ Biofuels and Confirmation Bias&lt;br /&gt;
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==Review of Project Status==&lt;br /&gt;
== Biofuels - Current Work==&lt;br /&gt;
== Biofuels - Developments Needed== &lt;br /&gt;
=== Biofuels - General===&lt;br /&gt;
=== Biofuels - Specific===&lt;br /&gt;
==== Biofuels - Background Debriefing====&lt;br /&gt;
==== Biofuels - Information Work====&lt;br /&gt;
What is required to distill the alcohol?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where will the energy come from to distill the alcohol?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What is the fruit to alcohol ratio?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve visited plum brandy distilleries and they said that it was a 50:1 ratio...--[[User:Dennis|Dennis]] 08:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Biofuels - Hardware Work====&lt;br /&gt;
== Biofuels - Sign-in==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Development Work Template=&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Product Definition]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - General]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - General Scope]] &lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Product Ecology]] &lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Localization]] &lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Scaleability]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Analysis of Scale]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Lifecycle Analysis]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Enterprise Options]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Development Approach]] &lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Timeline]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Development Budget]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Value Spent]] &lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Value available]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Value needed]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Deliverables and Product Specifications]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Industry Standards]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Market and Market Segmentation]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Salient Features and Keys to Success]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Technical Design]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Product System Design]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Diagrams and Conceptual Drawings]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Pattern Language Icons]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Structural Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Funcional or Process Diagram]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Workflow]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Technical Issues]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Deployment Strategy]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Performance specifications]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Design Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Yields]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Rates]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Structural Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Power Requirements]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Ergonomics of Production]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels -Time Requirements]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Economic Breakeven Analysis]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Scaleability Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Growth Calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Technical Drawings and CAD]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - CAM Files]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Component Design]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Diagrams]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Conceptual drawings]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Performance specifications]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Performance calculations]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Technical drawings and CAD]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - CAM files whenever available]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Subcomponents]] &lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Deployment and Results]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Production steps]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Flexible Fabrication or Production]] &lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Bill of materials]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Pictures and Video]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Data]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Documentation and Education]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Documentation]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Enterprise Plans]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Biofuels - Resource Development]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Identifying Stakeholders]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Information Collaboration]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Wiki Markup]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Addition of Supporting References]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Production of diagrams, flowcharts, 3D computer models, and other qualitative information architecture]]&lt;br /&gt;
####[[Biofuels - Technical Calculations, Drawings, CAD, CAM, other]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Prototyping]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Preordering working products]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Grantwriting]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Publicity]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - User/Fabricator Training and Accreditation]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Standards and Certification Developmen]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Other]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Grantwriting]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Volunteer grantwriters]]&lt;br /&gt;
###[[Biofuels - Professional, Outcome-Based Grantwriters]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Collaborative Stakeholder Funding]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Tool and Material Donations]]&lt;br /&gt;
##[[Biofuels - Charitable Contributions]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33195</id>
		<title>Talk:Fuel Alcohol</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33195"/>
		<updated>2011-07-12T12:04:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Jerusalem artichokes are good but there are many other highly efficient plants that may not even require propagation or if they do they do not have to be replanted for each crop. Two of them are cattails and Mesquite.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recommend David Blume&#039;s book; &amp;quot;Alcohol Can Be a Gas&amp;quot; it is the definitive work on how to  grow cultivate and produce ethanol efficiently and in a sustainable manner. It can be used in current cars and vehicles including diesels and airplanes etc. and is a high performance renewable clean burning fuel.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No new technology is required and most of the negative stuff you have heard about ethanol is not true.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Three key items need to be added to the design and the Development Work Template. &lt;br /&gt;
Safe handling of the protein by-products. This is what the Bush government botched (to George W screaming horror) in the 2005 corn ethanol boom. For every ton of fuel you get a ton a Dry distillers grains with solubles (DDGS). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillers_grains &lt;br /&gt;
This is food and always was but it was not cleared fast enough be the FDA for human use so much of it wound up pet food. In Europe more of it made it into the food chain. The food vs fuel debate is moot if your handling the DDGS properly and using it as either human food: Bread, gravy mix, vegemite, boveral, etc or stock feed [its a safe protein source]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A village scale ethanol plant can easily get its DDGS or even wet distillers grains -- the raw beer -- back to live stock. An optimal means of storing is to dry wet distillers grains to 15% moisture content and freeze it for storage in a cold cellar. Don&#039;t try to augur DDGS it turns to glue. In the Ethanol boom FDA mandates that demanded augurs destroyed dozens and bankrupted some producers. We can have our fuel and eat it too. This allows most grain and starch crops to be used as fuel and food crops simultaneously.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Should I add all this to the main page or is a new page &#039;ethanol by-products&#039; needed?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
If ethanol is used to power a stationary engine or a tractor that needs ballasting then an engine block still should work. The beer mash is plumbed through the engines cooling system, if your brave, or through a heat exchanger with the engine coolant on the other side. A thermostat keeps the beer at the boiling point of ethanol by diverted some water to the radiator. The ethanol vapour is condensed in a tower condenser on the vehicle or beside the stationary engine. A small insulated tank holds the 100 proof (100%) ethanol for start up in hot or cold weather. &lt;br /&gt;
Advantages: The engine is the still using heat that would otherwise be wasted. There&#039;s beer on tap in your tractor.   &lt;br /&gt;
Disadvantages; The beer fuel tanks need to be much larger your carrying around a lot of excess weight as water. It smells like a brewery. and there&#039;s beer on tap in your tractor.;-)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The extra weight problem can be solved by partly distilling the beer to 60 Proof (34%) ethanol. It will re-absorb water but that&#039;s not a problem if your using an engine still. A properly insulated flat plate solar collector like a solar hot water system will achieve 60 proof easily.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
None of the above is new every thing has been tried in the 1970&#039;s oil shock, the patents if there are any are not a problem they will have expired and any slight plumbing change with a real effect will allow a new patent, etc. Should I add all this to the main page or is a new page needed? I&#039;m a Noobie. &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Can I suggest a book to be added to the library: Sustainable Ethanol by Jeffrey and Adrian Goettemoeller. http://www.sustainableethanol.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33194</id>
		<title>Talk:Fuel Alcohol</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fuel_Alcohol&amp;diff=33194"/>
		<updated>2011-07-12T12:00:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Jerusalem artichokes are good but there are many other highly efficient plants that may not even require propagation or if they do they do not have to be replanted for each crop. Two of them are cattails and Mesquite.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I recommend David Blume&#039;s book; &amp;quot;Alcohol Can Be a Gas&amp;quot; it is the definitive work on how to  grow cultivate and produce ethanol efficiently and in a sustainable manner. It can be used in current cars and vehicles including diesels and airplanes etc. and is a high performance renewable clean burning fuel.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No new technology is required and most of the negative stuff you have heard about ethanol is not true.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Three key items need to be added to the design and the Development Work Template. &lt;br /&gt;
Safe handling of the protein by-products. This is what the Bush government botched (to George W screaming horror) in the 2005 corn ethanol boom. For every ton of fuel you get a ton a Dry distillers grains with solubles (DDGS). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillers_grains &lt;br /&gt;
This is food and always was but it was not cleared fast enough be the FDA for human use so much of it wound up pet food. In Europe more of it made it into the food chain. The food fuel debate is moot if your handling the DDGS properly and using it as either human food: Bread, gravy mix, vegemite, boveral, etc or stock feed [its a safe protein source]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A village scale ethanol plant can easily get its DDGS or even wet distillers grains -- the raw beer -- back to live stock. An optimal means of storing is to dry wet distillers grains to 15% moisture content and freeze it for storage in a cold cellar. Don&#039;t try to augur DDGS it turns to glue. In the Ethanol boom FDA mandates that demanded augurs destroyed dozens and bankrupted some producers. We can have our fuel and eat it too.  &lt;br /&gt;
Should I add all this to the main page or is a new page &#039;ethanol by-products&#039; needed?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
If ethanol is used to power a stationary engine or a tractor that needs ballasting then an engine block still should work. The beer mash is plumbed through the engines cooling system, if your brave, or through a heat exchanger with the engine coolant on the other side. A thermostat keeps the beer at the boiling point of ethanol by diverted some water to the radiator. The ethanol vapour is condensed in a tower condenser on the vehicle or beside the stationary engine. A small insulated tank holds the 100 proof (100%) ethanol for start up in hot or cold weather. &lt;br /&gt;
Advantages: The engine is the still using heat that would otherwise be wasted. There&#039;s beer on tap in your tractor.   &lt;br /&gt;
Disadvantages; The beer fuel tanks need to be much larger your carrying around a lot of excess weight as water. It smells like a brewery. and there&#039;s beer on tap in your tractor.;-)  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The extra weight problem can be solved by partly distilling the beer to 60 Proof (34%) ethanol. It will re-absorb water but that&#039;s not a problem if your using an engine still. A properly insulated flat plate solar collector like a solar hot water system will achieve 60 proof easily.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
None of the above is new every thing has been tried in the 1970&#039;s oil shock, the patents if there are any are not a problem they will have expired and any slight plumbing change with a real effect will allow a new patent, etc. Should I add all this to the main page or is a new page needed? I&#039;m a Noobie. &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
----&lt;br /&gt;
Can I suggest a book to be added to the library: Sustainable Ethanol by Jeffrey and Adrian Goettemoeller. http://www.sustainableethanol.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Wesley bruce|Wesley bruce]] 05:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Digital_lost_wax_for_metal_casting&amp;diff=33192</id>
		<title>Digital lost wax for metal casting</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Digital_lost_wax_for_metal_casting&amp;diff=33192"/>
		<updated>2011-07-12T10:40:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Lost_wax_for_bronze_casting.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Lost wax for bronze casting]]&lt;br /&gt;
The digital 3D model is rendered in wax, then the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost-wax_casting lost wax] technique is used to make the metal object. The process is used extensively in rapid prototyping, jewelry making and bronze sculpture art. Different options are available for turning the 3D model into a wax model: 1.) liquid wax is printed, or 2.) the object is carved/milled out of a solid wax block (subtractive), or 3.) a core of clay or metal is painted with multiple layers of wax using automated brushes, or heated artists knives.  &lt;br /&gt;
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There are some similarities between printing in wax and batik printing on cloth. The tool for applying the wax is a tjanting tool. Essentially what is needed is an automated and electrically heated tjanting tool. See the wikipedia link on batik. The link is to the subsection on automation.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also a derivative process called lost foam casting where polystyrene foam replaces the wax in a casting. The foam is injection moulded and coated with slick clay and moulding material forming the mould. The metal boils the polystyrene off directly on contact. This is used in the casting of many engine parts and other large castings. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since ABS is the plastic now used in Makerbot and other OS 3D printers is polystyrene with a Acrylonitrile and  butadiene added for hardness then these 3d printers should be able to work with polystyrene alone. The result would be more fragile and softer and will need to be handled with care. However the result should make usable casting mould in two steps. No need to cook out the polystyrene in a kiln though that should still be possible. There will be a need to add a fume extractor when large objects are cast. &lt;br /&gt;
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Most polystyrene is not recycled so its an abundant resource. However someone needs to make a plastics recycling unit that makes spooled filament.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I could have made this a separate page but its really just replacing the wax with a much cheaper plastic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Product ecology==&lt;br /&gt;
* use induction furnace to melt metals &lt;br /&gt;
* use beeswax for wax block ? &lt;br /&gt;
* alternatively recycled polystyrene?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Links==&lt;br /&gt;
* OSE Wiki page on [[Metal Casting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Wikipedia: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost-wax_casting Lost-wax casting] &lt;br /&gt;
* Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost-foam_casting&lt;br /&gt;
* Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batik#Industrialization_of_Technique&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Metalworks]][[Category:Materials]][[Category:Digital Fabrication]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Arduino&amp;diff=33030</id>
		<title>Arduino</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Arduino&amp;diff=33030"/>
		<updated>2011-07-11T05:58:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Arduino is a cheap, open-source microcontroller. (A microcontroller is a programmable chip that can act as the brain of a machine.) Arduino is very popular in open hardware projects, from our [[CEB Press]] to [[Yobot]], where it controls yogurt fermentation, to [[Botanicalls]], where it tells you if your plants are underwatered. You can also fabricate one by yourself see:[[DIY Arduino]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardDuemilanove &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:arduino.jpg]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;html&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;iframe src=&amp;quot;https://player.vimeo.com/video/18539129?title=0&amp;amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;amp;portrait=0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;400&amp;quot; height=&amp;quot;225&amp;quot; frameborder=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/iframe&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://vimeo.com/18539129&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Arduino The Documentary (2010) English HD&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; from &amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://vimeo.com/gnd&amp;quot;&amp;gt;gnd&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt; on &amp;lt;a href=&amp;quot;http://vimeo.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Vimeo&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/html&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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 &lt;br /&gt;
==OSE Wiki pages involving Arduino== &lt;br /&gt;
[[GardenBot]], [[Arduino_Control_of_CEB_Prototype_2| CEB controller]], [[Open energy monitor]], [[Arduino Inverter]], [[Yobot]] ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links== &lt;br /&gt;
* Wikipedia: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arduino Arduino]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.arduino.cc/ Arduino project main page] &lt;br /&gt;
* [http://makezine.com/arduino/ MAKE:Arduino]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tronixstuff.wordpress.com/tutorials/ Learning Arduino concepts step by step]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Circuit Boards]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Circuit Board Fabrication]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33028</id>
		<title>Solar sinter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33028"/>
		<updated>2011-07-11T05:54:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Solar Sintering is a technology that is particularly useful for crafting objects and at the large scale, structures, in dry environments using only sunlight and sand or regolith (rock dust). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Solar energy is simply focused on a small volume of bedded granular material to heat the material to a point where melt occurs and either the grains are bonded at the surface by micro melt grain welding or the whole grain melts and forms a crystal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser - Solar Sinter Project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://vimeo.com/25401444 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also the Gizmag report: Solar-Sinter 3D printer creates glass objects from sun and sand http://www.gizmag.com/solar-sinter-3d-printer/19046/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He can be contacted at [http://www.markuskayser.com/&lt;br /&gt;
]&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser&#039;s creations are rough with some non sintered sand bonded to the surface. In theory this can be fixed by quickly passing the work though the focal point with the plain of the focal point normal to the internal or external surface. A sand blaster could also smooth the works. Markus is an artist, his works will sell better if its clear how they are made. So perfectly smooth is not optimal for him. Nor is it optimal on all sintered applications particularly external bricks. A rough surface casts complex shadow&#039;s on its self when the sun is at an angle to the face this cools the face and reduces glare.     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advantages are that you don&#039;t need water or cement to make solid objects in the desert. The resulting ceramic is one of the strongest known and a refractory material. It endures for millennia and is water proof if crafted properly. The process is not fast; you will need more than one unit to be productive. However the Fresnel lenses are cheap and all the other parts can be built using the existing OS village technology. This technology will not work well above 40 degrees latitude but near the equator, at high altitudes and in most of the worlds sandy deserts it is a game changer. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For efficient village industrial scale production of quartz glass materials, particularly tiles and blocks, several solar sinter units along a conveyor belt would be optimal reducing man handling of hot quartz. Each lens does one layer or one melt width. In some cases three dimensions are not needed I.E. tiles. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shade in the desert is all important. Deserts are not just dry because they get little rainfall.  Dew fall in the cold nights can often be high. They are dry because evaporation rates exceed the little precipitation they get. Creating shade creates oasis&#039;s. With shade water can be accumulated and stored. Plants can grow well if they are shaded in the hottest part of the day, often the afternoon not midday.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has also been work on solar sintering Luna regolith (moon dust or simulated moon dust.) Designs are generally much larger with one design using a mobile mirror array to sinter a road surface! Others are designed to print structural elements. On the moon the light level is several times higher, Luna regolith has a lower melting point and there is no atmosphere to carry away heat so its a much more powerful technology on the moon. [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CBwQFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psicorp.com%2Fpdf%2Flibrary%2Fsr-1435.pdf&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=solar%20sinter%20lunar%20regolith&amp;amp;ei=wo0aTszcN46HmQWgkKj8Dw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNEA3FVBVJCMAsWP2sP5_yoj0Z5ULg&amp;amp;cad=rja] and [http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/HumanExplore/Exploration/EXLibrary/DOCS/EIC049.HTML]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With this technology its possible for a tropical or desert village to make tiles, refractory bricks, bowls and pots, quartz structural elements, rods, blocks, and mouldings. It could even, with a little more work be possible to make linear bearing surfaces, metal casting moulds and fibre glass like sheets with or without perforations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus&#039; process should work on some other material including small grain gravels, scrap glass, and  Calcium carbonates making lime or flint depending on the pressure. It may also be used to cook ores, cracking them, prior to smelting. Milled metal powders and scrap chips should tested both in atmosphere and in a inert or reducing gas to see if the process works for them. It may be possible print (weld) the shape and then pack in sand a heat in a furnace to finalise the form.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proper care should be taken: shade for the workers, protective gloves and tongs, protective goggles or a welders mask may be wise. Markus made his work in the desert look harder than it was to add a little drama.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33027</id>
		<title>Solar sinter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33027"/>
		<updated>2011-07-11T05:52:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Solar Sintering is a technology that is particularly useful for crafting objects and at the large scale, structures, in dry environments using only sunlight and sand or regolith (rock dust). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Solar energy is simply focused on a small volume of bedded granular material to heat the material to a point where melt occurs and either the grains are bonded at the surface by micro melt grain welding or the whole grain melts and forms a crystal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser - Solar Sinter Project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://vimeo.com/25401444 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also the Gizmag report: Solar-Sinter 3D printer creates glass objects from sun and sand http://www.gizmag.com/solar-sinter-3d-printer/19046/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He can be contacted at [http://www.markuskayser.com/&lt;br /&gt;
]&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser&#039;s creations are rough with some non sintered sand bonded to the surface. In theory this can be fixed by quickly passing the work though the focal point with the plain of the focal point normal to the internal or external surface. A sand blaster could also smooth the works. Markus is an artist, his works will sell better if its clear how they are made. So perfectly smooth is not optimal for him. Nor is it optimal on all sintered applications particularly external bricks. A rough surface casts complex shadow&#039;s on its self when the sun is at an angle to the face this cools the face and reduces glare.     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advantages are that you don&#039;t need water or cement to make solid objects in the desert. The resulting ceramic is one of the strongest known and a refractory material. It endures for millennia and is water proof if crafted properly. The process is not fast; you will need more than one unit to be productive. However the Fresnel lenses are cheap and all the other parts can be built using the existing OP village technology. This technology will not work well above 40 degrees latitude but near the equator, at high altitudes and in most of the worlds sandy deserts it is a game changer. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For efficient village industrial scale production of quartz glass materials, particularly tiles and blocks, several solar sinter units along a conveyor belt would be optimal reducing man handling of hot quartz. Each lens does one layer or one melt width. In some cases three dimensions are not needed I.E. tiles. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shade in the desert is all important. Deserts are not just dry because they get little rainfall.  Dew fall in the cold nights can often be high. They are dry because evaporation rates exceed the little precipitation they get. Creating shade creates oasis&#039;s. With shade water can be accumulated and stored. Plants can grow well if they are shaded in the hottest part of the day, often the afternoon not midday.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has also been work on solar sintering Luna regolith (moon dust or simulated moon dust.) Designs are generally much larger with one design using a mobile mirror array to sinter a road surface! Others are designed to print structural elements. On the moon the light level is several times higher, Luna regolith has a lower melting point and there is no atmosphere to carry away heat so its a much more powerful technology on the moon. [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CBwQFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psicorp.com%2Fpdf%2Flibrary%2Fsr-1435.pdf&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=solar%20sinter%20lunar%20regolith&amp;amp;ei=wo0aTszcN46HmQWgkKj8Dw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNEA3FVBVJCMAsWP2sP5_yoj0Z5ULg&amp;amp;cad=rja] and [http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/HumanExplore/Exploration/EXLibrary/DOCS/EIC049.HTML]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With this technology its possible for a tropical or desert village to make tiles, refractory bricks, bowls and pots, quartz structural elements, rods, blocks, and mouldings. It could even, with a little more work be possible to make linear bearing surfaces, metal casting moulds and fibre glass like sheets with or without perforations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus&#039; process should work on some other material including small grain gravels, scrap glass, and  Calcium carbonates making lime or flint depending on the pressure. It may also be used to cook ores, cracking them, prior to smelting. Milled metal powders and scrap chips should tested both in atmosphere and in a inert or reducing gas to see if the process works for them. It may be possible print (weld) the shape and then pack in sand a heat in a furnace to finalise the form.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proper care should be taken: shade for the workers, protective gloves and tongs, protective goggles or a welders mask may be wise. Markus made his work in the desert look harder than it was to add a little drama.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33026</id>
		<title>Solar sinter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Solar_sinter&amp;diff=33026"/>
		<updated>2011-07-11T05:20:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Wesley bruce: solar sintering wih a fresnel lens&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Solar Sintering is a technology that is particularly useful for crafting objects and at the large scale, structures, in dry environments using only sunlight and sand or regolith (rock dust). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Solar energy is simply focused on a small volume of bedded granular material to heat the material to a point where melt occurs and either the grains are bonded at the surface by micro melt grain welding or the whole grain melts and forms a crystal. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser - Solar Sinter Project&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://vimeo.com/25401444 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also the Gizmag report: Solar-Sinter 3D printer creates glass objects from sun and sand http://www.gizmag.com/solar-sinter-3d-printer/19046/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He can be contacted at [http://www.markuskayser.com/&lt;br /&gt;
]&lt;br /&gt;
Markus Kayser&#039;s creations are rough with some non sintered sand bonded to the surface. In theory this can be fixed by quickly passing the work though the focal point with the plain of the focal point normal to the internal or external surface. A sand blaster could also smooth the works. Markus is an artist, his works will sell better if its clear how they are made. So perfectly smooth is not optimal for him. Nor is it optimal on all sintered applications particularly external bricks. A rough surface casts complex shadow&#039;s on its self when the sun is at an angle to the face this cools the face and reduces glare.     &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The advantages are that you don&#039;t need water or cement to make solid objects in the desert. The resulting ceramic is one of the strongest known and a refractory material. It endures for millennia and is water proof if crafted properly. The process is not fast; you will need more than one unit to be productive. However the Fresnel lenses are cheap and all the other parts can be built using the existing OP village technology. This technology will not work well above 40 degrees latitude but near the equator, at high altitudes and in most of the worlds sandy deserts it is a game changer. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For efficient village industrial scale production of quartz glass materials, particularly tiles and blocks, several solar sinter units along a conveyor belt would be optimal reducing man handling of hot quartz. Each lens does one layer or one melt width. In some cases three dimensions are not needed I.E. tiles. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Shade in the desert is all important. Deserts are not just dry because they get little rainfall.  Dew fall in the cold nights can often be high. They are dry because evaporation rates exceed the little precipitation they get. Creating shade creates oasis&#039;s. With shade water can be accumulated and stored. Plants can grow well if they are shaded in the hottest part of the day, often the afternoon not midday.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There has also been work on solar sintering Luna regolith (moon dust or simulated moon dust.) Designs are generally much larger with one design using a mobile mirror array to sinter a road surface! Others are designed to print structural elements. On the moon the light level is several times higher, luna regolith has a lower melting point and there is no atmosphere to carry away heat so its a much more powerful technology on the moon. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With this technology its possible for a tropical or desert village to make tiles, refractory bricks, bowls and pots, quartz structural elements, rids, blocks, and mouldings. It could even, with a little more work be possible to make linear bearing surfaces, metal casting moulds and fibre glass like sheets with or without perforations.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Markus&#039; process should work on some other material including small grain gravels, scrap glass, and  Calcium carbonates making lime or flint depending on the pressure. It may also be used to cook ores, cracking them, prior to smelting. Milled metal powders and scrap chips should tested both in atmosphere and in a inert or reducing gas to see if the process works for them. It may be possible print (weld) the shape and then pack in sand a heat in a furnace to finalise the form.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Proper care should be taken: shade for the workers, protective gloves and tongs, protective goggles or a welders mask may be wise. Markus made his work in the desert look harder than it was to add a little drama.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesley bruce</name></author>
	</entry>
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