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		<title>Wesxdz: /* OSE History */</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-30T13:43:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;OSE History&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:43, 30 May 2021&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l14&quot;&gt;Line 14:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 2021 budget is 90% materials and infrastructure construction costs. The budget includes materials for dozens of machines that participants will build, facility improvements such as a new workshop to provide space for the larger program that we will have this year, additional housing for participants on site, a site manager, and other operating costs. To reduce costs, we will be using our own machines - such as tractors, 3D printers, and sawmill- in construction - as well as our own materias such as CEB Block from our brick press. The cost figure for 2021 is an extremely lean value- as we use extremely efficient build techniques and our own machines. It&amp;#039;s important that we continue lowering costs, to reduce barriers to entry - such that regenerative solutions at scale become a reality in terms of a livelihood option that anyone can take on.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 2021 budget is 90% materials and infrastructure construction costs. The budget includes materials for dozens of machines that participants will build, facility improvements such as a new workshop to provide space for the larger program that we will have this year, additional housing for participants on site, a site manager, and other operating costs. To reduce costs, we will be using our own machines - such as tractors, 3D printers, and sawmill- in construction - as well as our own materias such as CEB Block from our brick press. The cost figure for 2021 is an extremely lean value- as we use extremely efficient build techniques and our own machines. It&amp;#039;s important that we continue lowering costs, to reduce barriers to entry - such that regenerative solutions at scale become a reality in terms of a livelihood option that anyone can take on.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Summer X &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;prograpm &lt;/del&gt;and tuition fees must cover these costs. OSE is further taking on additional risks by taking our a loan to cover preparation costs. The above illustrates some of the costs, prior development effort, risks, and opportunities involved. Getting back to profit share - let&amp;#039;s address this question clearly for participants so that this is not an issue to some who may perceive that &amp;#039;their labor is being used so someone else can make money.&amp;#039; That is so far from the truth. Our first goal is to cover costs - so we remain a sustainable business - and second - we put all excess into improving our programs and growth, so that anyone can benefit from the open knowhow that we create. We are creating significant value: whether it is the design of the Seed Eco-Home that anyone can build at a fraction of the cost of any alternative to address housing - or our lifetime design Lifetrac that can be used for construction or agriculture to lower barriers to entry - our CEB Press - or our 3D printers - all published openly - each worth billions of dollars of potential market share. We know that we are creating signficant value - and we discovered that our workshops and programs are a great way to fund continuing development. And no, participants in our workshops, immersive builds, in the [[OSE Mentorship]], or in the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] do not get a revenue share for reasons that by now should be clear.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Summer X &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;program &lt;/ins&gt;and tuition fees must cover these costs. OSE is further taking on additional risks by taking our a loan to cover preparation costs. The above illustrates some of the costs, prior development effort, risks, and opportunities involved. Getting back to profit share - let&amp;#039;s address this question clearly for participants so that this is not an issue to some who may perceive that &amp;#039;their labor is being used so someone else can make money.&amp;#039; That is so far from the truth. Our first goal is to cover costs - so we remain a sustainable business - and second - we put all excess into improving our programs and growth, so that anyone can benefit from the open knowhow that we create. We are creating significant value: whether it is the design of the Seed Eco-Home that anyone can build at a fraction of the cost of any alternative to address housing - or our lifetime design Lifetrac that can be used for construction or agriculture to lower barriers to entry - our CEB Press - or our 3D printers - all published openly - each worth billions of dollars of potential market share. We know that we are creating signficant value - and we discovered that our workshops and programs are a great way to fund continuing development. And no, participants in our workshops, immersive builds, in the [[OSE Mentorship]], or in the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] do not get a revenue share for reasons that by now should be clear.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is also another reason - fairness - even if there were profit to share. If OSE (with past contributors) spent years developing products, took on current financial risks to deliver the product, provided the organizational experience to execute, created the infrastructure to make a things happen, marketed and publicized the build - continue to innovate as most of our work is fresh and recently developed. OSE effectively took on all the liability and risk involved. Any product build really does stand on the shoulders of giants. Thus, how does a newcomer - who is benefitting from years of prior development and everything that was built up to enable the build to happen - have any claim on a revenue share? Yes, they may have done the build - but they did not &amp;#039;make&amp;#039; the build happen. This is a sticky point - because many newcomers think that they did all the work - whereas in reality - all the vast majority work was done before to enable their part in the build. So to reiterate for clarity: there is no profit to share, and there is no justification for sharing profit based on merit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is also another reason - fairness - even if there were profit to share. If OSE (with past contributors) spent years developing products, took on current financial risks to deliver the product, provided the organizational experience to execute, created the infrastructure to make a things happen, marketed and publicized the build - continue to innovate as most of our work is fresh and recently developed. OSE effectively took on all the liability and risk involved. Any product build really does stand on the shoulders of giants. Thus, how does a newcomer - who is benefitting from years of prior development and everything that was built up to enable the build to happen - have any claim on a revenue share? Yes, they may have done the build - but they did not &amp;#039;make&amp;#039; the build happen. This is a sticky point - because many newcomers think that they did all the work - whereas in reality - all the vast majority work was done before to enable their part in the build. So to reiterate for clarity: there is no profit to share, and there is no justification for sharing profit based on merit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Wesxdz: /* OSE History */</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-30T13:35:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;OSE History&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is also another reason - fairness - even if there were profit to share. If OSE (with past contributors) spent years developing products, took on current financial risks to deliver the product, provided the organizational experience to execute, created the infrastructure to make a things happen, marketed and publicized the build - continue to innovate as most of our work is fresh and recently developed. OSE effectively took on all the liability and risk involved. Any product build really does stand on the shoulders of giants. Thus, how does a newcomer - who is benefitting from years of prior development and everything that was built up to enable the build to happen - have any claim on a revenue share? Yes, they may have done the build - but they did not &amp;#039;make&amp;#039; the build happen. This is a sticky point - because many newcomers think that they did all the work - whereas in reality - all the vast majority work was done before to enable their part in the build. So to reiterate for clarity: there is no profit to share, and there is no justification for sharing profit based on merit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is also another reason - fairness - even if there were profit to share. If OSE (with past contributors) spent years developing products, took on current financial risks to deliver the product, provided the organizational experience to execute, created the infrastructure to make a things happen, marketed and publicized the build - continue to innovate as most of our work is fresh and recently developed. OSE effectively took on all the liability and risk involved. Any product build really does stand on the shoulders of giants. Thus, how does a newcomer - who is benefitting from years of prior development and everything that was built up to enable the build to happen - have any claim on a revenue share? Yes, they may have done the build - but they did not &amp;#039;make&amp;#039; the build happen. This is a sticky point - because many newcomers think that they did all the work - whereas in reality - all the vast majority work was done before to enable their part in the build. So to reiterate for clarity: there is no profit to share, and there is no justification for sharing profit based on merit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So is OSE a bunch of stingy bastards - not hiring or paying? Far from it. We are open to working with or hiring graduates from our programs- with the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] designed specifically for that purpose. This is where specific work contracts and agreements can take place - as we are enabling others to &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;collaborte &lt;/del&gt;on open product development, and to replicate our operations - once they get the critical skills to do it. Not to do it any way - but our way - which means truly collaboratively, in a way that allows for [[Economic Time Binding]]. We are enabling others to take years of our work, and create enterprise - collaboratively - upon it. Contractual agreements are spelled out black and white, and these come after people finish our programs and get various certifications. But people are not paid during the programs, unless specific agreements are made in writing to the contrary. The relationship of a participant to OSE is that of a student - not worker. Even OSE staff are students - as they have a stake in starting enterprises afer their training. We are really innovating on a potentially transformative collaborative development model - one which has no precedent to date - and one which can cause confusion as to how it works.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So is OSE a bunch of stingy bastards - not hiring or paying? Far from it. We are open to working with or hiring graduates from our programs- with the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] designed specifically for that purpose. This is where specific work contracts and agreements can take place - as we are enabling others to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;collaborate &lt;/ins&gt;on open product development, and to replicate our operations - once they get the critical skills to do it. Not to do it any way - but our way - which means truly collaboratively, in a way that allows for [[Economic Time Binding]]. We are enabling others to take years of our work, and create enterprise - collaboratively - upon it. Contractual agreements are spelled out black and white, and these come after people finish our programs and get various certifications. But people are not paid during the programs, unless specific agreements are made in writing to the contrary. The relationship of a participant to OSE is that of a student - not worker. Even OSE staff are students - as they have a stake in starting enterprises afer their training. We are really innovating on a potentially transformative collaborative development model - one which has no precedent to date - and one which can cause confusion as to how it works.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about the Seed Eco-Home, which we envision as a solid revenue model for growth? Our goal is building one in 1000 hours and charging $50k for that build to a client (on top of materials) as our flagship product. Smaller microhomes can be built for as little as about $15-25k in materials - though we intend to make this even lower as we produce our own materials. We may achieve an even faster build as we optimize the design and build process further - indeed we will definitely reduce build time -  until full automation. For OSE sustainability, the basic ratio of pay to operations must be about 50/50 - 50% goes to staff and workers who do the build, and 50% goes to OSE for operations to deliver such builds. This is just an industry standard for what a company needs to make - and how much it can pay its workers - if it is to stay afloat and grow. We are reifying all these numbers as we develop the revenue model of the Seed Eco-Home so everyone can gain access to the highest quality build at the lowest possible cost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about the Seed Eco-Home, which we envision as a solid revenue model for growth? Our goal is building one in 1000 hours and charging $50k for that build to a client (on top of materials) as our flagship product. Smaller microhomes can be built for as little as about $15-25k in materials - though we intend to make this even lower as we produce our own materials. We may achieve an even faster build as we optimize the design and build process further - indeed we will definitely reduce build time -  until full automation. For OSE sustainability, the basic ratio of pay to operations must be about 50/50 - 50% goes to staff and workers who do the build, and 50% goes to OSE for operations to deliver such builds. This is just an industry standard for what a company needs to make - and how much it can pay its workers - if it is to stay afloat and grow. We are reifying all these numbers as we develop the revenue model of the Seed Eco-Home so everyone can gain access to the highest quality build at the lowest possible cost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We hope this clarifies the logic of OSE revenue share, leaving both sides ecstatic to create open source, regenerative solutions at scale - by lowering the barriers for everyone.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We hope this clarifies the logic of OSE revenue share, leaving both sides ecstatic to create open source, regenerative solutions at scale - by lowering the barriers for everyone.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Wesxdz</name></author>
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		<title>Wesxdz: ambitious typo</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-30T13:32:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;ambitious typo&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l10&quot;&gt;Line 10:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The first thing to point out is that an enterprise has operating costs. Whenever OSE makes a product sale - it operates like a business that sells products, not a non-profit that gets donor funding. With the business nature of any deal - there are operating costs, risks, years of product development behind the product, marketing costs, operating costs, staff, facility operations, and more. Whenever we produce something within an immersion workshop or education experience, there are significant costs involved. First, to develop and deliver an Extreme Manufacturing requires a lot of effort and cost - it is a highly organized effort that doesn&amp;#039;t just appear out of nowhere. When OSE brings in revenue as such, there is no profit to speak of. All revenue covers costs, and if costs are covered, it goes to improving our programs. While it may seem that we brought in easy money - the truth is that a lot of cost and effort went into a public, Extreme Manufacturing event.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The first thing to point out is that an enterprise has operating costs. Whenever OSE makes a product sale - it operates like a business that sells products, not a non-profit that gets donor funding. With the business nature of any deal - there are operating costs, risks, years of product development behind the product, marketing costs, operating costs, staff, facility operations, and more. Whenever we produce something within an immersion workshop or education experience, there are significant costs involved. First, to develop and deliver an Extreme Manufacturing requires a lot of effort and cost - it is a highly organized effort that doesn&amp;#039;t just appear out of nowhere. When OSE brings in revenue as such, there is no profit to speak of. All revenue covers costs, and if costs are covered, it goes to improving our programs. While it may seem that we brought in easy money - the truth is that a lot of cost and effort went into a public, Extreme Manufacturing event.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let&amp;#039;s give a specific example. The current cost projection for the 7 month period from June 1 to December 22, 2021 - surrounding the Summer of Extreme Design-Build 2021 and the related OSE Apprenticeship program - is around $550k - and is also our most &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a,bitious &lt;/del&gt;and expensive program to date. Typically, we have operated on an average of a $100k/year shoestring budget over the last decade, 80% of which went to infrastructure and materials. To date, most staff time is still as volunteers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let&amp;#039;s give a specific example. The current cost projection for the 7 month period from June 1 to December 22, 2021 - surrounding the Summer of Extreme Design-Build 2021 and the related OSE Apprenticeship program - is around $550k - and is also our most &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;ambitious &lt;/ins&gt;and expensive program to date. Typically, we have operated on an average of a $100k/year shoestring budget over the last decade, 80% of which went to infrastructure and materials. To date, most staff time is still as volunteers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 2021 budget is 90% materials and infrastructure construction costs. The budget includes materials for dozens of machines that participants will build, facility improvements such as a new workshop to provide space for the larger program that we will have this year, additional housing for participants on site, a site manager, and other operating costs. To reduce costs, we will be using our own machines - such as tractors, 3D printers, and sawmill- in construction - as well as our own materias such as CEB Block from our brick press. The cost figure for 2021 is an extremely lean value- as we use extremely efficient build techniques and our own machines. It&amp;#039;s important that we continue lowering costs, to reduce barriers to entry - such that regenerative solutions at scale become a reality in terms of a livelihood option that anyone can take on.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 2021 budget is 90% materials and infrastructure construction costs. The budget includes materials for dozens of machines that participants will build, facility improvements such as a new workshop to provide space for the larger program that we will have this year, additional housing for participants on site, a site manager, and other operating costs. To reduce costs, we will be using our own machines - such as tractors, 3D printers, and sawmill- in construction - as well as our own materias such as CEB Block from our brick press. The cost figure for 2021 is an extremely lean value- as we use extremely efficient build techniques and our own machines. It&amp;#039;s important that we continue lowering costs, to reduce barriers to entry - such that regenerative solutions at scale become a reality in terms of a livelihood option that anyone can take on.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesxdz</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Wesxdz: Add link to OSE campus</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-30T13:29:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Add link to OSE campus&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:29, 30 May 2021&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;OSE is a nonprofit 501(c)3 organization that relies on programmatic revenue for funding. As the core of our funding policy, we promote programmatic revenue from education programs, machine sales, or other builds. All is classified as related business income, which is part of the immersion training that OSE provides. The decision to rely on programmatic funding  is deliberate - so that we do not rely on external funding such as foundations - which can appear (and disappear) rather unexpectedly - leaving little room for long term planning. OSE wants to put itself in a financially autonomous position, for reasons of continuity. As such, it operates more like a business - via its earned, program revenue. We are not opposed to foundation funding - that is just not where we put in most of our energy. Instead, we spend our time on developing products - so that we create a viable funding model that would allow many organizations such as ourselves to bootstrap fund their operations - as well as allow individuals anywhere to gain financial independence for their life&amp;#039;s pursuits.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;OSE is a nonprofit 501(c)3 organization that relies on programmatic revenue for funding. As the core of our funding policy, we promote programmatic revenue from education programs, machine sales, or other builds. All is classified as related business income, which is part of the immersion training that OSE provides. The decision to rely on programmatic funding  is deliberate - so that we do not rely on external funding such as foundations - which can appear (and disappear) rather unexpectedly - leaving little room for long term planning. OSE wants to put itself in a financially autonomous position, for reasons of continuity. As such, it operates more like a business - via its earned, program revenue. We are not opposed to foundation funding - that is just not where we put in most of our energy. Instead, we spend our time on developing products - so that we create a viable funding model that would allow many organizations such as ourselves to bootstrap fund their operations - as well as allow individuals anywhere to gain financial independence for their life&amp;#039;s pursuits.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have achieved certain innovation on bootsrap funding. Early on (2007), we started crowdfunding and our [[True Fans]] program - 6 years before Patreon was founded. We ran kickstarter campaigns, posted funding baskets for individual projects, and eventually reached the world stage with the [[TED Talk]]. Within 3 years, we received about $1M in foundation funding, and things were great until that money went as fast as it came. This is what reinforced our notion of programmatic revenue being a stable way to fund projects - as no foundation will fund the revolution. They can help - but not to get OSE to the next trillion dollar economy with thousands of OSE campuses around the world. Our ambitions for regenerative solutions at scale are high - and a scalable enterprise model needs to be innovated to match that need.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have achieved certain innovation on bootsrap funding. Early on (2007), we started crowdfunding and our [[True Fans]] program - 6 years before Patreon was founded. We ran kickstarter campaigns, posted funding baskets for individual projects, and eventually reached the world stage with the [[TED Talk]]. Within 3 years, we received about $1M in foundation funding, and things were great until that money went as fast as it came. This is what reinforced our notion of programmatic revenue being a stable way to fund projects - as no foundation will fund the revolution. They can help - but not to get OSE to the next trillion dollar economy with thousands of &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Campus &lt;/ins&gt;OSE campuses&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;] &lt;/ins&gt;around the world. Our ambitions for regenerative solutions at scale are high - and a scalable enterprise model needs to be innovated to match that need.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To date - we have reversed the funding model in production, by innovating on the [[Extreme Manufacturing]] model. In this model, the customer pays for an immersion learning experience - and there is also the possibility of a product sale - such as our Compressed Earth Block Press, a Power Cube, Tractor, 3D printer, or even a house. In our model - we don&amp;#039;t only produce an immersion education experience - we produce a real product as we have developed ways that make this possible even with unskilled participants. We have lowered the barriers to entry to the point that even inexperienced participants can contribute to an education/production experience that yields a real, marketable product. Thus, we have developed a dual revenue model based on education and production in one. Furthermore - we invite the customer to the actual build. This allows the customer to understand the machine to the point that they could even rebuild or fix the artifact - if they want to do it themselves. We produce transparent designs that are easy to fix and maintain for a lifetime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To date - we have reversed the funding model in production, by innovating on the [[Extreme Manufacturing]] model. In this model, the customer pays for an immersion learning experience - and there is also the possibility of a product sale - such as our Compressed Earth Block Press, a Power Cube, Tractor, 3D printer, or even a house. In our model - we don&amp;#039;t only produce an immersion education experience - we produce a real product as we have developed ways that make this possible even with unskilled participants. We have lowered the barriers to entry to the point that even inexperienced participants can contribute to an education/production experience that yields a real, marketable product. Thus, we have developed a dual revenue model based on education and production in one. Furthermore - we invite the customer to the actual build. This allows the customer to understand the machine to the point that they could even rebuild or fix the artifact - if they want to do it themselves. We produce transparent designs that are easy to fix and maintain for a lifetime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Wesxdz</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=About_Revenue_Share&amp;diff=253511&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Wesxdz: /* OSE History */</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-30T13:27:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;OSE History&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:27, 30 May 2021&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=OSE History=&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=OSE History=&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;OSE is a nonprofit 501(c)3 organization that relies on programmatic revenue for funding. As the core of our funding policy, we promote programmatic revenue from education programs, machine sales, or other builds. All is classified as related business income, which is part of the immersion training that OSE provides. The decision to rely on programmatic funding  is deliberate - so that we do not rely on external funding such as foundations - which can appear (and disappear) rather unexpectedly - leaving little room for long term planning. OSE wants to put itself in a financially autonomous position, for reasons of continuity. As such, it operates more like a business - via its earned, program revenue. We are not opposed to foundation funding - that is just not where we put in most of our energy. Instead, we spend our time on developing products - &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;se &lt;/del&gt;that we create a viable funding model that would allow many organizations such as ourselves to bootstrap fund their operations - as well as allow individuals anywhere to gain financial independence for their life&amp;#039;s pursuits.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;OSE is a nonprofit 501(c)3 organization that relies on programmatic revenue for funding. As the core of our funding policy, we promote programmatic revenue from education programs, machine sales, or other builds. All is classified as related business income, which is part of the immersion training that OSE provides. The decision to rely on programmatic funding  is deliberate - so that we do not rely on external funding such as foundations - which can appear (and disappear) rather unexpectedly - leaving little room for long term planning. OSE wants to put itself in a financially autonomous position, for reasons of continuity. As such, it operates more like a business - via its earned, program revenue. We are not opposed to foundation funding - that is just not where we put in most of our energy. Instead, we spend our time on developing products - &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;so &lt;/ins&gt;that we create a viable funding model that would allow many organizations such as ourselves to bootstrap fund their operations - as well as allow individuals anywhere to gain financial independence for their life&amp;#039;s pursuits.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have achieved certain innovation on bootsrap funding. Early on (2007), we started crowdfunding and our [[True Fans]] program - 6 years before Patreon was founded. We ran kickstarter campaigns, posted funding baskets for individual projects, and eventually reached the world stage with the [[TED Talk]]. Within 3 years, we received about $1M in foundation funding, and things were great until that money went as fast as it came. This is what reinforced our notion of programmatic revenue being a stable way to fund projects - as no foundation will fund the revolution. They can help - but not to get OSE to the next trillion dollar economy with thousands of OSE campuses around the world. Our ambitions for regenerative solutions at scale are high - and a scalable enterprise model needs to be innovated to match that need.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have achieved certain innovation on bootsrap funding. Early on (2007), we started crowdfunding and our [[True Fans]] program - 6 years before Patreon was founded. We ran kickstarter campaigns, posted funding baskets for individual projects, and eventually reached the world stage with the [[TED Talk]]. Within 3 years, we received about $1M in foundation funding, and things were great until that money went as fast as it came. This is what reinforced our notion of programmatic revenue being a stable way to fund projects - as no foundation will fund the revolution. They can help - but not to get OSE to the next trillion dollar economy with thousands of OSE campuses around the world. Our ambitions for regenerative solutions at scale are high - and a scalable enterprise model needs to be innovated to match that need.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Marcin at 22:32, 25 May 2021</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-25T22:32:52Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:32, 25 May 2021&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l22&quot;&gt;Line 22:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about the Seed Eco-Home, which we envision as a solid revenue model for growth? Our goal is building one in 1000 hours and charging $50k for that build to a client (on top of materials) as our flagship product. Smaller microhomes can be built for as little as about $15-25k in materials - though we intend to make this even lower as we produce our own materials. We may achieve an even faster build as we optimize the design and build process further - indeed we will definitely reduce build time -  until full automation. For OSE sustainability, the basic ratio of pay to operations must be about 50/50 - 50% goes to staff and workers who do the build, and 50% goes to OSE for operations to deliver such builds. This is just an industry standard for what a company needs to make - and how much it can pay its workers - if it is to stay afloat and grow. We are reifying all these numbers as we develop the revenue model of the Seed Eco-Home so everyone can gain access to the highest quality build at the lowest possible cost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about the Seed Eco-Home, which we envision as a solid revenue model for growth? Our goal is building one in 1000 hours and charging $50k for that build to a client (on top of materials) as our flagship product. Smaller microhomes can be built for as little as about $15-25k in materials - though we intend to make this even lower as we produce our own materials. We may achieve an even faster build as we optimize the design and build process further - indeed we will definitely reduce build time -  until full automation. For OSE sustainability, the basic ratio of pay to operations must be about 50/50 - 50% goes to staff and workers who do the build, and 50% goes to OSE for operations to deliver such builds. This is just an industry standard for what a company needs to make - and how much it can pay its workers - if it is to stay afloat and grow. We are reifying all these numbers as we develop the revenue model of the Seed Eco-Home so everyone can gain access to the highest quality build at the lowest possible cost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We hope this clarifies the logic of OSE revenue share, leaving both sides ecstatic to create open source &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;products better than anyone can build on their own&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We hope this clarifies the logic of OSE revenue share, leaving both sides ecstatic to create open source&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, regenerative solutions at scale - by lowering the barriers for everyone&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Marcin at 22:31, 25 May 2021</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-25T22:31:09Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l10&quot;&gt;Line 10:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The first thing to point out is that an enterprise has operating costs. Whenever OSE makes a product sale - it operates like a business that sells products, not a non-profit that gets donor funding. With the business nature of any deal - there are operating costs, risks, years of product development behind the product, marketing costs, operating costs, staff, facility operations, and more. Whenever we produce something within an immersion workshop or education experience, there are significant costs involved. First, to develop and deliver an Extreme Manufacturing requires a lot of effort and cost - it is a highly organized effort that doesn&amp;#039;t just appear out of nowhere. When OSE brings in revenue as such, there is no profit to speak of. All revenue covers costs, and if costs are covered, it goes to improving our programs. While it may seem that we brought in easy money - the truth is that a lot of cost and effort went into a public, Extreme Manufacturing event.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The first thing to point out is that an enterprise has operating costs. Whenever OSE makes a product sale - it operates like a business that sells products, not a non-profit that gets donor funding. With the business nature of any deal - there are operating costs, risks, years of product development behind the product, marketing costs, operating costs, staff, facility operations, and more. Whenever we produce something within an immersion workshop or education experience, there are significant costs involved. First, to develop and deliver an Extreme Manufacturing requires a lot of effort and cost - it is a highly organized effort that doesn&amp;#039;t just appear out of nowhere. When OSE brings in revenue as such, there is no profit to speak of. All revenue covers costs, and if costs are covered, it goes to improving our programs. While it may seem that we brought in easy money - the truth is that a lot of cost and effort went into a public, Extreme Manufacturing event.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let&amp;#039;s give a specific example. The current cost projection for the 7 month period from June 1 to December 22, 2021 - surrounding the Summer of Extreme Design-Build 2021 and the related OSE Apprenticeship program - is around $&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;450k &lt;/del&gt;- and also our most expensive program to date. Typically, we have operated on an average of a $100k/year shoestring budget over the last decade, 80% of which went to infrastructure and materials. To date, most staff time is &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;volunteer&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let&amp;#039;s give a specific example. The current cost projection for the 7 month period from June 1 to December 22, 2021 - surrounding the Summer of Extreme Design-Build 2021 and the related OSE Apprenticeship program - is around $&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;550k &lt;/ins&gt;- and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is &lt;/ins&gt;also our most &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a,bitious and &lt;/ins&gt;expensive program to date. Typically, we have operated on an average of a $100k/year shoestring budget over the last decade, 80% of which went to infrastructure and materials. To date, most staff time is &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;still as volunteers&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 2021 budget is 90% materials and infrastructure construction costs. The budget includes materials for dozens of machines that participants will build, facility improvements such as a new workshop to provide space for the larger program &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and audience &lt;/del&gt;that we will have this year, additional housing for participants on site, a site manager, and other operating costs. To reduce costs, we will be using our own machines - such as tractors, 3D printers, and sawmill- in construction - as well as our own materias such as CEB Block from our brick press. The cost figure for 2021 is an extremely &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;efficient &lt;/del&gt;value- &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;it would likely cost millions without &lt;/del&gt;our &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;open source &lt;/del&gt;machines &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and techniques&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;But it&lt;/del&gt;&amp;#039;s important that we continue to reduce barriers to entry - such that regenerative solutions at scale become a reality in terms of a livelihood option that anyone can take on.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 2021 budget is 90% materials and infrastructure construction costs. The budget includes materials for dozens of machines that participants will build, facility improvements such as a new workshop to provide space for the larger program that we will have this year, additional housing for participants on site, a site manager, and other operating costs. To reduce costs, we will be using our own machines - such as tractors, 3D printers, and sawmill- in construction - as well as our own materias such as CEB Block from our brick press. The cost figure for 2021 is an extremely &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;lean &lt;/ins&gt;value- &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;as we use extremely efficient build techniques and &lt;/ins&gt;our &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;own &lt;/ins&gt;machines. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;It&lt;/ins&gt;&amp;#039;s important that we continue &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;lowering costs, &lt;/ins&gt;to reduce barriers to entry - such that regenerative solutions at scale become a reality in terms of a livelihood option that anyone can take on.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Workshop revenue &lt;/del&gt;and tuition fees must cover these costs. OSE is further taking on additional risks by taking our a loan to cover preparation costs. The above illustrates some of the costs, prior development effort, risks, and opportunities involved. Getting back to profit share - let&amp;#039;s address this question clearly for participants so that this is not an issue to some who may perceive that &amp;#039;their labor is being used so someone else can make money.&amp;#039; That is so far from the truth&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. It should be clear that all revenue goes to cover costs - and there is no such thing as profit&lt;/del&gt;. Our first goal is to cover costs - so we remain a sustainable business - and second - we put all excess into improving our programs and growth, so that anyone can benefit from the open knowhow that we create. We are creating significant value: whether it is the design of the Seed Eco-Home that anyone can build at a fraction of the cost of any alternative to address housing - or our lifetime design Lifetrac that can be used for construction or agriculture to lower barriers to entry - or our 3D printers - all published openly - each worth billions of dollars of potential market share. We know that we are creating signficant value - and we &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;have no qualms about what we are charging for &lt;/del&gt;our workshops and programs. And no, participants in our workshops, immersive builds, in the [[OSE Mentorship]], or in the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] do not get a revenue share.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Summer X prograpm &lt;/ins&gt;and tuition fees must cover these costs. OSE is further taking on additional risks by taking our a loan to cover preparation costs. The above illustrates some of the costs, prior development effort, risks, and opportunities involved. Getting back to profit share - let&amp;#039;s address this question clearly for participants so that this is not an issue to some who may perceive that &amp;#039;their labor is being used so someone else can make money.&amp;#039; That is so far from the truth. Our first goal is to cover costs - so we remain a sustainable business - and second - we put all excess into improving our programs and growth, so that anyone can benefit from the open knowhow that we create. We are creating significant value: whether it is the design of the Seed Eco-Home that anyone can build at a fraction of the cost of any alternative to address housing - or our lifetime design Lifetrac that can be used for construction or agriculture to lower barriers to entry &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- our CEB Press &lt;/ins&gt;- or our 3D printers - all published openly - each worth billions of dollars of potential market share. We know that we are creating signficant value - and we &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;discovered that &lt;/ins&gt;our workshops and programs &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are a great way to fund continuing development&lt;/ins&gt;. And no, participants in our workshops, immersive builds, in the [[OSE Mentorship]], or in the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] do not get a revenue share &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;for reasons that by now should be clear&lt;/ins&gt;.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is also another reason &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;of &lt;/del&gt;fairness - even if there were profit to share. If OSE &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and &lt;/del&gt;past contributors spent years developing products, took on current financial risks to deliver the product, provided the organizational experience to execute &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a build&lt;/del&gt;, created the infrastructure to make a &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;build &lt;/del&gt;happen, marketed and publicized the build - and effectively took on all the liability and risk involved&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- what claim &lt;/del&gt;does &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;an untrained &lt;/del&gt;newcomer- who is benefitting from years of prior development and everything that was built up to enable the build to happen - &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;demand &lt;/del&gt;a revenue share &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;when their contribution to success was so minor&lt;/del&gt;? Yes, they may have done the build - but they did not &amp;#039;make the build happen.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;#039; &lt;/del&gt;This is a sticky point - because many newcomers think that they did all the work - whereas in reality - all the work was done &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;for them so they could take &lt;/del&gt;part in the build. So to reiterate for clarity: there is no profit to share, and there is no justification for sharing profit based on merit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;There is also another reason &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- &lt;/ins&gt;fairness - even if there were profit to share. If OSE &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;(with &lt;/ins&gt;past contributors&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;) &lt;/ins&gt;spent years developing products, took on current financial risks to deliver the product, provided the organizational experience to execute, created the infrastructure to make a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;things &lt;/ins&gt;happen, marketed and publicized the build - &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;continue to innovate as most of our work is fresh &lt;/ins&gt;and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;recently developed. OSE &lt;/ins&gt;effectively took on all the liability and risk involved&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. Any product build really does stand on the shoulders of giants. Thus, how &lt;/ins&gt;does &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a &lt;/ins&gt;newcomer - who is benefitting from years of prior development and everything that was built up to enable the build to happen - &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;have any claim on &lt;/ins&gt;a revenue share? Yes, they may have done the build - but they did not &amp;#039;make&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;#039; &lt;/ins&gt;the build happen. This is a sticky point - because many newcomers think that they did all the work - whereas in reality - all the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;vast majority &lt;/ins&gt;work was done &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;before to enable their &lt;/ins&gt;part in the build. So to reiterate for clarity: there is no profit to share, and there is no justification for sharing profit based on merit.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;does that mean that nobody can work with &lt;/del&gt;OSE - &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;that OSE isn&amp;#039;t &lt;/del&gt;hiring or paying? &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Absolutely not&lt;/del&gt;. We are open to working with or hiring graduates from our programs- with the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] designed specifically for that purpose. This is where specific work contracts and agreements can take place - as we are enabling others to collaborte on open product development, and to replicate our operations, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;all over the world&lt;/del&gt;. We are enabling others to take years of our work, and create enterprise - collaboratively - upon it. Contractual agreements are spelled out black and white, and these come after people finish our programs and get various certifications. But people are not paid during the programs, unless specific agreements are made in writing to the contrary. The relationship of a participant to OSE is that of a student - not worker. Even OSE staff are students - as they have a stake in starting enterprises afer their training. We are really innovating on a potentially transformative collaborative development model - one which has no precedent to date - and one which can cause confusion as to how it works.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;So &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is &lt;/ins&gt;OSE &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a bunch of stingy bastards &lt;/ins&gt;- &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;not &lt;/ins&gt;hiring or paying? &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Far from it&lt;/ins&gt;. We are open to working with or hiring graduates from our programs- with the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] designed specifically for that purpose. This is where specific work contracts and agreements can take place - as we are enabling others to collaborte on open product development, and to replicate our operations &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- once they get the critical skills to do it. Not to do it any way - but our way - which means truly collaboratively&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in a way that allows for [[Economic Time Binding]]&lt;/ins&gt;. We are enabling others to take years of our work, and create enterprise - collaboratively - upon it. Contractual agreements are spelled out black and white, and these come after people finish our programs and get various certifications. But people are not paid during the programs, unless specific agreements are made in writing to the contrary. The relationship of a participant to OSE is that of a student - not worker. Even OSE staff are students - as they have a stake in starting enterprises afer their training. We are really innovating on a potentially transformative collaborative development model - one which has no precedent to date - and one which can cause confusion as to how it works.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about the Seed Eco-Home, which we envision as a solid revenue model for growth? Our goal is building one in 1000 hours and charging $50k for that build to a client (on top of materials) as our flagship product. Smaller microhomes can be built for as little as about $15-25k in materials - though we intend to make this even lower as we produce our own materials. We may achieve an even faster build as we optimize the design and build process further - indeed we will definitely reduce build time -  until full automation. For OSE sustainability, the basic ratio of pay to operations must be about 50/50 - 50% goes to staff and workers who do the build, and 50% goes to OSE for operations to deliver such builds. This is just an industry standard for what a company needs to make - and how much it can pay its workers - if it is to stay afloat and grow. We are reifying all these numbers as we develop the revenue model of the Seed Eco-Home so everyone can gain access to the highest quality build at the lowest possible cost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What about the Seed Eco-Home, which we envision as a solid revenue model for growth? Our goal is building one in 1000 hours and charging $50k for that build to a client (on top of materials) as our flagship product. Smaller microhomes can be built for as little as about $15-25k in materials - though we intend to make this even lower as we produce our own materials. We may achieve an even faster build as we optimize the design and build process further - indeed we will definitely reduce build time -  until full automation. For OSE sustainability, the basic ratio of pay to operations must be about 50/50 - 50% goes to staff and workers who do the build, and 50% goes to OSE for operations to deliver such builds. This is just an industry standard for what a company needs to make - and how much it can pay its workers - if it is to stay afloat and grow. We are reifying all these numbers as we develop the revenue model of the Seed Eco-Home so everyone can gain access to the highest quality build at the lowest possible cost.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We hope this clarifies the logic of OSE revenue share, leaving both sides ecstatic to create open source products better than anyone can build on their own.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We hope this clarifies the logic of OSE revenue share, leaving both sides ecstatic to create open source products better than anyone can build on their own.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To date - we have reversed the funding model in production, by innovating on the [[Extreme Manufacturing]] model. In this model, the customer pays for an immersion learning experience - and there is also the possibility of a product sale - such as our Compressed Earth Block Press, a Power Cube, Tractor, 3D printer, or even a house. In our model - we don&amp;#039;t only produce an immersion education experience - we produce a real product as we have developed ways that make this possible even with unskilled participants. We have lowered the barriers to entry to the point that even inexperienced participants can contribute to an education/production experience that yields a real, marketable product. Thus, we have developed a dual revenue model based on education and production in one. Furthermore - we invite the customer to the actual build. This allows the customer to understand the machine to the point that they could even rebuild or fix the artifact - if they want to do it themselves. We produce transparent designs that are easy to fix and maintain for a lifetime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To date - we have reversed the funding model in production, by innovating on the [[Extreme Manufacturing]] model. In this model, the customer pays for an immersion learning experience - and there is also the possibility of a product sale - such as our Compressed Earth Block Press, a Power Cube, Tractor, 3D printer, or even a house. In our model - we don&amp;#039;t only produce an immersion education experience - we produce a real product as we have developed ways that make this possible even with unskilled participants. We have lowered the barriers to entry to the point that even inexperienced participants can contribute to an education/production experience that yields a real, marketable product. Thus, we have developed a dual revenue model based on education and production in one. Furthermore - we invite the customer to the actual build. This allows the customer to understand the machine to the point that they could even rebuild or fix the artifact - if they want to do it themselves. We produce transparent designs that are easy to fix and maintain for a lifetime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As we teach people how to build machines or other products, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;there is &lt;/del&gt;the possibility of &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;machine sales&lt;/del&gt;. Historically, some participants have asked about profit sharing&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, and misconceptions arise &lt;/del&gt;as people are not familiar with OSE&amp;#039;s operations and funding&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. There are several aspects to this explanation&lt;/del&gt;. A savvy entrepreneur understands that a sustainable business must bring in more money than it spends. However - this point is very confusing to those unfamiliar with business - and it&amp;#039;s even not clear to established entepreneurs. For example, as of this writing, this point is not clear even to a company like Uber, which as of today (May 2021) has yet to bring in more money than it spends. This page aims to clarify the issue of OSE&amp;#039;s nonprofit operation, and the related concept of &amp;#039;profit sharing&amp;#039;. We are making this clear here because we had significant conflict on the issue before - where we had to go so far as hiring a professional mediator to mitigate conflict that arose from volunteers who were demanding &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;revenue &lt;/del&gt;share from one of OSE&amp;#039;s builds. The resolution occured as we explained to the volunteers that there was no profit in the deal - a very basic concept once one accounts for true costs - though one which can be confusing even to seasoned entrepreneurs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As we teach people how to build machines or other products, the possibility of &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a resulting produce sale emerges&lt;/ins&gt;. Historically, some participants have asked about profit sharing &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- which turns out to be a misconception that arises &lt;/ins&gt;as people are not familiar with OSE&amp;#039;s operations and funding. A savvy entrepreneur understands that a sustainable business must bring in more money than it spends. However - this point is very confusing to those unfamiliar with business - and it&amp;#039;s even not clear to established entepreneurs. For example, as of this writing, this point is not clear even to a company like Uber, which as of today (May 2021) has yet to bring in more money than it spends. This page aims to clarify the issue of OSE&amp;#039;s nonprofit operation, and the related concept of &amp;#039;profit sharing&amp;#039;. We are making this clear here because we had significant conflict on the issue before - where we had to go so far as hiring a professional mediator to mitigate conflict that arose from volunteers who were demanding &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a &lt;/ins&gt;share &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;of nonexistent profits &lt;/ins&gt;from one of OSE&amp;#039;s builds. The resolution occured as we explained to the volunteers that there was no profit in the deal - a very basic concept once one accounts for true costs - though one which can be confusing even to seasoned entrepreneurs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The first thing to point out is that an enterprise has operating costs. Whenever OSE makes a product sale - it operates like a business that sells products, not a non-profit that gets donor funding. With the business nature of any deal - there are operating costs, risks, years of product development behind the product, marketing costs, operating costs, staff, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and &lt;/del&gt;facility operations. Whenever we produce something within an immersion workshop or education experience, there are significant costs involved. First, to develop and deliver an Extreme Manufacturing requires a lot of effort and cost. When OSE brings in revenue as such, there is no profit to speak of. All revenue &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt; goes back into the operation &lt;/del&gt;and &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;covers &lt;/del&gt;costs. While it may seem that we brought in easy money - the truth is that a lot of cost and effort went into &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;an &lt;/del&gt;Extreme Manufacturing &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;public &lt;/del&gt;event.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The first thing to point out is that an enterprise has operating costs. Whenever OSE makes a product sale - it operates like a business that sells products, not a non-profit that gets donor funding. With the business nature of any deal - there are operating costs, risks, years of product development behind the product, marketing costs, operating costs, staff, facility operations&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, and more&lt;/ins&gt;. Whenever we produce something within an immersion workshop or education experience, there are significant costs involved. First, to develop and deliver an Extreme Manufacturing requires a lot of effort and cost &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- it is a highly organized effort that doesn&amp;#039;t just appear out of nowhere&lt;/ins&gt;. When OSE brings in revenue as such, there is no profit to speak of. All revenue &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;covers costs, &lt;/ins&gt;and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;if &lt;/ins&gt;costs &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;are covered, it goes to improving our programs&lt;/ins&gt;. While it may seem that we brought in easy money - the truth is that a lot of cost and effort went into &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a public, &lt;/ins&gt;Extreme Manufacturing event.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let&amp;#039;s give a specific example. The current cost projection for the 7 month period from June 1 to December 22, 2021 - surrounding the Summer of Extreme Design-Build 2021 and the related OSE Apprenticeship program - is around $450k - and also our most expensive program to date. Typically, we have operated on an average of a $100k/year shoestring budget over the last decade, 80% of which went to infrastructure and materials. To date, most staff time is volunteer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Let&amp;#039;s give a specific example. The current cost projection for the 7 month period from June 1 to December 22, 2021 - surrounding the Summer of Extreme Design-Build 2021 and the related OSE Apprenticeship program - is around $450k - and also our most expensive program to date. Typically, we have operated on an average of a $100k/year shoestring budget over the last decade, 80% of which went to infrastructure and materials. To date, most staff time is volunteer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=OSE History=&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=OSE History=&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;OSE is a nonprofit 501(c)3 organization that relies on programmatic revenue for funding. As the core of our funding policy, we promote programmatic revenue from education programs &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and &lt;/del&gt;machine sales. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;We do this intentionally &lt;/del&gt;- so that we do not rely on &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;foundation grants &lt;/del&gt;- which can disappear &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;as fast as they appear &lt;/del&gt;- &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;forcing orgnaizations to cut programs&lt;/del&gt;. OSE wants to put itself in a financially autonomous position, for reasons of continuity. As such, it operates more like a business - via its &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;eearned&lt;/del&gt;, program revenue &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- as opposed to outside foundation funding&lt;/del&gt;. We are not opposed to foundation funding - that is just not where we put our energy. Instead, we spend our time on developing products - se that we create a viable funding model that would allow many organizations such as ourselves to bootstrap fund their operations.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;OSE is a nonprofit 501(c)3 organization that relies on programmatic revenue for funding. As the core of our funding policy, we promote programmatic revenue from education programs&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;machine sales&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, or other builds&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;All is classified as related business income, which is part of the immersion training that OSE provides. The decision to rely on programmatic funding  is deliberate &lt;/ins&gt;- so that we do not rely on &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;external funding such as foundations &lt;/ins&gt;- which can &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;appear (and &lt;/ins&gt;disappear&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;) rather unexpectedly &lt;/ins&gt;- &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;leaving little room for long term planning&lt;/ins&gt;. OSE wants to put itself in a financially autonomous position, for reasons of continuity. As such, it operates more like a business - via its &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;earned&lt;/ins&gt;, program revenue. We are not opposed to foundation funding - that is just not where we put &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in most of &lt;/ins&gt;our energy. Instead, we spend our time on developing products - se that we create a viable funding model that would allow many organizations such as ourselves to bootstrap fund their operations &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- as well as allow individuals anywhere to gain financial independence for their life&amp;#039;s pursuits&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have achieved certain innovation on bootsrap funding. Early on (2007), we started crowdfunding and our [[True Fans]] program - 6 years before Patreon was founded. We ran kickstarter campaigns, posted funding baskets for individual projects, and eventually reached the world stage with the TED Talk. Within 3 years, we received about $1M in foundation funding, and things were great until that money went as fast as it came. This is what reinforced our notion of programmatic revenue being a stable way to fund projects - as no foundation will fund the revolution. They can help - but not to get OSE to the next trillion dollar economy with thousands of OSE campuses around the world. Our ambitions for regenerative solutions at scale are high - and a scalable enterprise model needs to be innovated to match that need.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have achieved certain innovation on bootsrap funding. Early on (2007), we started crowdfunding and our [[True Fans]] program - 6 years before Patreon was founded. We ran kickstarter campaigns, posted funding baskets for individual projects, and eventually reached the world stage with the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;TED Talk&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;. Within 3 years, we received about $1M in foundation funding, and things were great until that money went as fast as it came. This is what reinforced our notion of programmatic revenue being a stable way to fund projects - as no foundation will fund the revolution. They can help - but not to get OSE to the next trillion dollar economy with thousands of OSE campuses around the world. Our ambitions for regenerative solutions at scale are high - and a scalable enterprise model needs to be innovated to match that need.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To date - we have reversed the funding model in production, by innovating on the [[Extreme Manufacturing]] &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;revenue &lt;/del&gt;model. In this model, the customer pays for an immersion learning experience - and there is also the possibility of a product sale - such as our Compressed Earth Block Press, a Power Cube, Tractor, 3D printer, or even a house. In our model - we don&amp;#039;t only produce an immersion education experience - we produce a real product as we have developed ways that make this possible even with unskilled &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;participant&lt;/del&gt;. We have lowered the barriers to entry to the point that even inexperienced participants can &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;participate meaningfully in &lt;/del&gt;an &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;immersion &lt;/del&gt;education/production experience that yields a real, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;functional &lt;/del&gt;product. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Such &lt;/del&gt;a &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;product can be sold in the marketplace, &lt;/del&gt;and in &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;our model &lt;/del&gt;- we invite the customer to the actual build. This allows the customer to understand the machine to the point that they could even rebuild or fix the artifact - if they want to do it themselves. We produce transparent designs that are easy to fix and maintain for a lifetime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To date - we have reversed the funding model in production, by innovating on the [[Extreme Manufacturing]] model. In this model, the customer pays for an immersion learning experience - and there is also the possibility of a product sale - such as our Compressed Earth Block Press, a Power Cube, Tractor, 3D printer, or even a house. In our model - we don&amp;#039;t only produce an immersion education experience - we produce a real product as we have developed ways that make this possible even with unskilled &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;participants&lt;/ins&gt;. We have lowered the barriers to entry to the point that even inexperienced participants can &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;contribute to &lt;/ins&gt;an education/production experience that yields a real, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;marketable &lt;/ins&gt;product. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Thus, we have developed &lt;/ins&gt;a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;dual revenue model based on education &lt;/ins&gt;and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;production &lt;/ins&gt;in &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;one. Furthermore &lt;/ins&gt;- we invite the customer to the actual build. This allows the customer to understand the machine to the point that they could even rebuild or fix the artifact - if they want to do it themselves. We produce transparent designs that are easy to fix and maintain for a lifetime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As we teach people how to build machines or other products, there is the possibility of machine sales. Historically, some participants have asked about profit sharing, and misconceptions arise as people are not familiar with OSE&amp;#039;s operations and funding. There are several aspects to this explanation. A savvy entrepreneur understands that a sustainable business must bring in more money than it spends. However - this point is very confusing to those unfamiliar with business - and it&amp;#039;s even not clear to established entepreneurs. For example, as of this writing, this point is not clear even to a company like Uber, which as of today (May 2021) has yet to bring in more money than it spends. This page aims to clarify the issue of OSE&amp;#039;s nonprofit operation, and the related concept of &amp;#039;profit sharing&amp;#039;. We are making this clear here because we had significant conflict on the issue before - where we had to go so far as hiring a professional mediator to mitigate conflict that arose from volunteers who were demanding revenue share from one of OSE&amp;#039;s builds. The resolution occured as we explained to the volunteers that there was no profit in the deal - a very basic concept once one accounts for true costs - though one which can be confusing even to seasoned entrepreneurs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;As we teach people how to build machines or other products, there is the possibility of machine sales. Historically, some participants have asked about profit sharing, and misconceptions arise as people are not familiar with OSE&amp;#039;s operations and funding. There are several aspects to this explanation. A savvy entrepreneur understands that a sustainable business must bring in more money than it spends. However - this point is very confusing to those unfamiliar with business - and it&amp;#039;s even not clear to established entepreneurs. For example, as of this writing, this point is not clear even to a company like Uber, which as of today (May 2021) has yet to bring in more money than it spends. This page aims to clarify the issue of OSE&amp;#039;s nonprofit operation, and the related concept of &amp;#039;profit sharing&amp;#039;. We are making this clear here because we had significant conflict on the issue before - where we had to go so far as hiring a professional mediator to mitigate conflict that arose from volunteers who were demanding revenue share from one of OSE&amp;#039;s builds. The resolution occured as we explained to the volunteers that there was no profit in the deal - a very basic concept once one accounts for true costs - though one which can be confusing even to seasoned entrepreneurs.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Marcin: Marcin moved page About Revenue Sharing to About Revenue Share</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Marcin moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/About_Revenue_Sharing&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;About Revenue Sharing&quot;&gt;About Revenue Sharing&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/About_Revenue_Share&quot; title=&quot;About Revenue Share&quot;&gt;About Revenue Share&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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