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		<title>Donovan at 22:44, 1 December 2012</title>
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		<updated>2012-12-01T22:44:08Z</updated>

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		<title>Fenn: obfuscate my email addy</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-16T23:03:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;obfuscate my email addy&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>WikiSysop: New page: ben lipkowitz &lt;fenn@sdf.lonestar.org&gt; to	Marcin Jakubowski &lt;joseph.dolittle@gmail.com&gt;, date	Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:46 PM subject	Re: thin client EMC 	 hide details 5:46 PM (20 hours ago) 	...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: ben lipkowitz &amp;lt;fenn@sdf.lonestar.org&amp;gt; to	Marcin Jakubowski &amp;lt;joseph.dolittle@gmail.com&amp;gt;, date	Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:46 PM subject	Re: thin client EMC 	 hide details 5:46 PM (20 hours ago) 	...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;ben lipkowitz &amp;lt;fenn@sdf.lonestar.org&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
to	Marcin Jakubowski &amp;lt;joseph.dolittle@gmail.com&amp;gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
date	Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:46 PM&lt;br /&gt;
subject	Re: thin client EMC&lt;br /&gt;
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Marcin Jakubowski wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Hello Ben,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Thanks for the excellent recommendation. Please send me a Netier or two. Let&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; me know if you need some cash. We&amp;#039;re cash poor, we do everything on&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; donations, and we are working hard on a fundraising mechanism for the open&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; source product development consortium that we are proposing. It&amp;#039;s starting&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; to move forward.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It keeps your technology appropriate, at least. I&amp;#039;m cash poor too, but&lt;br /&gt;
stuff&amp;#039;s just going to sit in the basement anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I read your blurb on USB compact flash. Can I just boot off that? I have a 1&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Gig card.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
USB isn&amp;#039;t compact flash...? You would need an adapter from CF card to&lt;br /&gt;
ribbon cable connector, but I can supply the cable if I can find it. I&lt;br /&gt;
haven&amp;#039;t tested booting off USB yet, and there is a chance even if booting&lt;br /&gt;
works that it will interfere with realtime stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;d like to ask you, in case it&amp;#039;s tricky to get all the right parts working,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; to send me a package with all the necessary components, and I&amp;#039;ll gladly pay&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; you for the pieces.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I dont have &amp;quot;all the pieces&amp;quot;. I wish I could send a turn-key three axis&lt;br /&gt;
servo system, but I&amp;#039;m just not there yet. An iso image to run on a thin&lt;br /&gt;
client hasn&amp;#039;t been put together yet either. A really lightweight&lt;br /&gt;
emc2-compatible-out-of-the-box linux distro would certainly be welcomed by&lt;br /&gt;
the emc community, but for now we&amp;#039;ll have to slog through setting up a&lt;br /&gt;
stock Debian net-boot image and then adding the emc2 packages to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; We will be utilizing the torch table to do a second prototype of the CEB&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; machine. We will be using the CEB machine to build our open source product&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; devevlopment facilities. We aim to start building in the beginning of May.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; We have all this development work to be done by that time, so we need to&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; move fast.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I hope I&amp;#039;m not just getting in the way then; you might be better off with&lt;br /&gt;
a desktop and steppers, and fix it later if you dont like it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your vision is really cool; high-tech self sufficiency is something I&amp;#039;ve&lt;br /&gt;
been thinking about for years but never manage to get anything done. It&lt;br /&gt;
started with tesla turbines and then a scratch-built metal lathe:&lt;br /&gt;
http://fennetic.net/machines/lathe_modifications&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; If you can jumpstart me in the right direction with the thin client, I&amp;#039;d&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; appreciate it greatly. Please let me know what I should read, and if you can&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; point me to a procedure, that would be great. Tell me more about the servos.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
read this for starters: (not exciting, how to set up PXE net-boot)&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think our emails passed like trains in the night. In any case, the servo&lt;br /&gt;
drive is a simple h-bridge and encoder counter, which talks to a chip&lt;br /&gt;
which talks to the parport. If I only had two or three axes then this&lt;br /&gt;
would be &amp;quot;easy&amp;quot; to interface directly to the parallel port, but with six&lt;br /&gt;
or seven axes things look a little different.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
here is my wiki page with some chicken scratch:&lt;br /&gt;
http://fennetic.net/machines/motherchip&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; What do you do for a living? We&amp;#039;re doing this open source product thing full&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;m supposed to be developing this into an online business, sold as a kit:&lt;br /&gt;
http://fennetic.net/machines/index.php?hextatic&lt;br /&gt;
but keeping focused is difficult when working alone. I end up spending a&lt;br /&gt;
lot of time in #emc on irc.freenode.net. It will be &amp;quot;open source&amp;quot; but I&amp;#039;m&lt;br /&gt;
not sure that public domain is the best way to do it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just read &amp;quot;the four hour workweek&amp;quot; - perhaps it could help you to refine&lt;br /&gt;
your business plans. Yes it reads like an infomercial, but there is a lot&lt;br /&gt;
of good advice regarding &amp;quot;time management&amp;quot; = making money without spending&lt;br /&gt;
all day doing it, how to not babysit people, and how to take advantage of&lt;br /&gt;
modern tools like google adwords. Understanding how things are done in&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;the real world&amp;quot; (where your target audience is non-geeks) can help to&lt;br /&gt;
clarify what is good and what is bad about it. Maybe it&amp;#039;s no big deal if&lt;br /&gt;
you already know this stuff, but they sure don&amp;#039;t teach it in school.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;ve done some linux system administration (perl and mysql hell) but it&lt;br /&gt;
doesn&amp;#039;t really pay the bills. I&amp;#039;m thinking about joining Neil&lt;br /&gt;
Gershenfeld&amp;#039;s fab-lab group but so far I&amp;#039;ve been too chicken to ask.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ciao,&lt;br /&gt;
  -fenn&lt;br /&gt;
812-331-0654&lt;br /&gt;
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