CEB Press v21.06 Calculations - Revision history

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

2021-07-01T03:23:20Z

Pressing Rate

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	*Add another power cube for 54 hp - 31.8 gpm. Then we would need a larger valve. We could add anothe 10 gpm valve so we have 26 + 10 or 36 gpm capacity. In this case, small cylinder takes 1.9 seconds - and large one takes 2.2 seconds per cycle. Total of 4.1 seconds per cycle - or 14.6 block per minute. Derated this yields 12.4 block per minute.		*Add another power cube for 54 hp - 31.8 gpm. Then we would need a larger valve. We could add anothe 10 gpm valve so we have 26 + 10 or 36 gpm capacity. In this case, small cylinder takes 1.9 seconds - and large one takes 2.2 seconds per cycle. Total of 4.1 seconds per cycle - or 14.6 block per minute. Derated this yields 12.4 block per minute.
	*All in all, we go from 6 to 9.4 to 12.4 block per minute. Per hour this gets us to 744 block per hour. 8 hour day gives us 5952 block. Whoa.		*All in all, we go from 6 to 9.4 to 12.4 block per minute. Per hour this gets us to 744 block per hour. 8 hour day gives us 5952 block. Whoa.
			**This means 1 foot thick wall - 192 block per 4' wide wall section (8' tall) or 124 feet of wall.

	=Cost=		=Cost=
	*Valves -		*Valves -

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

2021-07-01T03:20:14Z

Pressing Rate

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	*Add another power cube for 54 hp - 31.8 gpm. Then we would need a larger valve. We could add anothe 10 gpm valve so we have 26 + 10 or 36 gpm capacity. In this case, small cylinder takes 1.9 seconds - and large one takes 2.2 seconds per cycle. Total of 4.1 seconds per cycle - or 14.6 block per minute. Derated this yields 12.4 block per minute.		*Add another power cube for 54 hp - 31.8 gpm. Then we would need a larger valve. We could add anothe 10 gpm valve so we have 26 + 10 or 36 gpm capacity. In this case, small cylinder takes 1.9 seconds - and large one takes 2.2 seconds per cycle. Total of 4.1 seconds per cycle - or 14.6 block per minute. Derated this yields 12.4 block per minute.
	*All in all, we go from 6 to 9.4 to 12.4 block per minute. Per hour this gets us to 744 block per hour. 8 hour day gives us 5952 block. Whoa.		*All in all, we go from 6 to 9.4 to 12.4 block per minute. Per hour this gets us to 744 block per hour. 8 hour day gives us 5952 block. Whoa.

			=Cost=
			*Valves -

Marcin at 03:06, 1 July 2021

2021-07-01T03:06:42Z

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	*all together we have 8.6 seconds per cycle, or 7 block per minute. In real life we were observing 6+ block per minute, or 15% less.		*all together we have 8.6 seconds per cycle, or 7 block per minute. In real life we were observing 6+ block per minute, or 15% less.
	*Add 18 hp power cubes, 36 hp - 21.2 gpm, but actually pressing rate is slightly less because we have 10.6 gpm flow for the duration of the small cylinder. This means we take 1.9 seconds for each small cylinder cycle, and 3.4 seconds for the main cylinder. At 5.4 seconds - we get 11 block per minute. That may get it to 9.4 block per minute.		*Add 18 hp power cubes, 36 hp - 21.2 gpm, but actually pressing rate is slightly less because we have 10.6 gpm flow for the duration of the small cylinder. This means we take 1.9 seconds for each small cylinder cycle, and 3.4 seconds for the main cylinder. At 5.4 seconds - we get 11 block per minute. That may get it to 9.4 block per minute.
	*Add another power cube for 54 hp - 31.8 gpm. Then we would need a larger valve. We could add anothe 10 gpm valve so we have 26 + 10 or 36 gpm capacity. In this case, small cylinder takes 1.9 seconds - and large one takes 2.2 seconds per cycle.		*Add another power cube for 54 hp - 31.8 gpm. Then we would need a larger valve. We could add anothe 10 gpm valve so we have 26 + 10 or 36 gpm capacity. In this case, small cylinder takes 1.9 seconds - and large one takes 2.2 seconds per cycle. Total of 4.1 seconds per cycle - or 14.6 block per minute. Derated this yields 12.4 block per minute.
			*All in all, we go from 6 to 9.4 to 12.4 block per minute. Per hour this gets us to 744 block per hour. 8 hour day gives us 5952 block. Whoa.

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

2021-07-01T03:01:52Z

Pressing Rate

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	*Pump all power into large cylinder upon large cylinder motion		*Pump all power into large cylinder upon large cylinder motion
	*Calculations based on [[CEB Press v17.08 Calculations]], which show 1.52 gallons per cycle.		*Calculations based on [[CEB Press v17.08 Calculations]], which show 1.52 gallons per cycle.
	**We get 7.1 block per minute.		**We get 7 block per minute.
	*In case of 16 hp engine, this works. Add more power, and we have:		*In case of 16 hp engine, this works. Add more power, and we have:

	*77 cu in per cycle for small cylinder. Running on 10.6 gpm, we get 32 cycles per minute or 1.9 seconds for a cycle.		*77 cu in per cycle for small cylinder. Running on 10.6 gpm, we get 32 cycles per minute or 1.9 seconds for a cycle.
	*For ~~352~~ cu in per cycle for large cylinder, we get 7.0 cycles per minute, or 8.6 seconds per cycle.		*For 275 cu in per cycle for large cylinder, we get 8.9 cycles per minute, or 6.7 seconds per cycle.
	*all together we have 10.5 seconds per cycle, or 5.7 block per minute.		*all together we have 8.6 seconds per cycle, or 7 block per minute. In real life we were observing 6+ block per minute, or 15% less.
			*Add 18 hp power cubes, 36 hp - 21.2 gpm, but actually pressing rate is slightly less because we have 10.6 gpm flow for the duration of the small cylinder. This means we take 1.9 seconds for each small cylinder cycle, and 3.4 seconds for the main cylinder. At 5.4 seconds - we get 11 block per minute. That may get it to 9.4 block per minute.
			*Add another power cube for 54 hp - 31.8 gpm. Then we would need a larger valve. We could add anothe 10 gpm valve so we have 26 + 10 or 36 gpm capacity. In this case, small cylinder takes 1.9 seconds - and large one takes 2.2 seconds per cycle.

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

2021-07-01T02:43:36Z

Pressing Rate

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	*In case of 16 hp engine, this works. Add more power, and we have:		*In case of 16 hp engine, this works. Add more power, and we have:

	*77 cu in per cycle for small cylinder. Running on 10.6 gpm, we get 32 cycles per minute or		*77 cu in per cycle for small cylinder. Running on 10.6 gpm, we get 32 cycles per minute or 1.9 seconds for a cycle.
			*For 352 cu in per cycle for large cylinder, we get 7.0 cycles per minute, or 8.6 seconds per cycle.
			*all together we have 10.5 seconds per cycle, or 5.7 block per minute.

Marcin at 02:40, 1 July 2021

2021-07-01T02:40:13Z

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	*5" special cylinders are $500 for one with a rod sticking out 3":		*5" special cylinders are $500 for one with a rod sticking out 3":
	*Is it an option to use 2 cylinders, if they can be mounted effectively? It could make sense if we CNC cut mounting plates as needed.		*Is it an option to use 2 cylinders, if they can be mounted effectively? It could make sense if we CNC cut mounting plates as needed.

			=Pressing Rate=
			*Same cylinder as before
			*Pump all power into large cylinder upon large cylinder motion
			*Calculations based on [[CEB Press v17.08 Calculations]], which show 1.52 gallons per cycle.
			**We get 7.1 block per minute.
			*In case of 16 hp engine, this works. Add more power, and we have:

			*77 cu in per cycle for small cylinder. Running on 10.6 gpm, we get 32 cycles per minute or

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*Is it an option to use 2 cylinders, if they can be mounted effectively? It could make sense if we CNC cut mounting plates as needed.

CEB Press v21.06 Calculations - Revision history

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

Marcin at 03:06, 1 July 2021

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

Marcin: /* Pressing Rate */

Marcin at 02:40, 1 July 2021

Marcin: Created page with "=Cylinder Evaluation= *5" special cylinders are $500 for one with a rod sticking out 3": *Is it an option to use 2 cylinders, if they can be mounted effectively? It could make..."

Marcin: Created page with "=Cylinder Evaluation= 5" special cylinders are $500 for one with a rod sticking out 3": Is it an option to use 2 cylinders, if they can be mounted effectively? It could make..."