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		<title>Marcin at 20:03, 13 April 2013</title>
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		<title>Marcin: Created page with &quot;* The key technical challenge is making it easier to track, view, and merge changes to hardware designs.  * Build on top of existing technology (e.g. git and github).  * Encou...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;* The key technical challenge is making it easier to track, view, and merge changes to hardware designs.  * Build on top of existing technology (e.g. git and github).  * Encou...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;* The key technical challenge is making it easier to track, view, and merge changes to hardware designs.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Build on top of existing technology (e.g. git and github).&lt;br /&gt;
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* Encourage text-based file formats. The XML file format in newer versions of Eagle is a good example; encouraging or creating text-based file formats for other software tools or types of hardware would be one good project to work on.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Work on import / export between different tools (e.g. Eagle import / export in Kicad if there isn&amp;#039;t one already). &lt;br /&gt;
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* Use images (e.g. PNGs or PDFs) as a common format for viewing changes. GitHub, for example, provides good built-in tools for showing diffs between images (https://github.com/blog/817-behold-image-view-modes). Automatically generating some PNGs or PDFs on every commit of an Eagle file, for example, would make it much easier to see the changes. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Collaborate with CERN on their open-hardware repository (http://www.ohwr.org). For example, OSHWA could help mediate in cases where it&amp;#039;s not clear if something is open-source or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Engage with other partners. For example, Hod Lipson is working on an effort to define a new interchange format for 3D designs (http://amf.wikispaces.com). &lt;br /&gt;
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* Encourage participants to be clear about what they&amp;#039;re trying to accomplish.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Include planning for future work (after the event) as part of the process.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Distinguish between the actual source (design files) for hardware from documentation about open-source hardware practices and projects. The current site seems to use &amp;quot;documentation&amp;quot; for both, which gets confusing.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Where possible, focus on best practices and examples rather than formal rules. For example, in trying to expand the scope of open-source hardware, I wouldn&amp;#039;t try to write an explicit definition of what counts. Instead, give examples that show the diversity of what exists. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Embed taxonomies and standards in tools and platforms rather than trying to impose them externally. For example, it makes sense to have a taxonomy embedded in a repository of open-source hardware but it&amp;#039;s not clear what value one would have on its own. Similarly for labels / fields: it makes sense to have a standard set of fields in a repository but I&amp;#039;m not sure it makes sense to suggest one that people would use on their own websites.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Try not to get side-tracked by overly philosophical conversations (e.g. &amp;quot;what are the limits open-source hardware?&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;how much of a project needs to be open?&amp;quot;, etc).&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Marcin</name></author>
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