Design for Thermal Runaway/Battery Fires - Revision history

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	***One of the more promising designs though		***One of the more promising designs though
	***In terms of Design for Firefighting having a “stab here if on fire” placard and/or distribute (open source) training materials on this may be a way of addressing this issue.		***In terms of Design for Firefighting having a “stab here if on fire” placard and/or distribute (open source) training materials on this may be a way of addressing this issue.

			=Existing Industry Solutions=
			==VigilEX Energy==
			*They make various [[Deflagration Panel]] / [[Burst Panel]] solutions, mainly aimed at BES
			*https://vigilexenergy.com/
			*Uncertain what degree of IP Lockdown etc

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	*[https://youtube.com/@stachedtraining?si=fHOxiAQy4oFCDGJk The YouTube Channel “StacheDTraining” ] has several videos on the topic		*[https://youtube.com/@stachedtraining?si=fHOxiAQy4oFCDGJk The YouTube Channel “StacheDTraining” ] has several videos on the topic
	*[https://youtu.be/qgP7KkDesBo?si=KfB3OCDyUA0MiXQX A Video by the YouTube Channel “StacheDTraining” Titled “What [[Firefighting Tools]] for Extinguishing Electric Vehicle Fires Really Work?” ] ( ‘’’~6 Minute Watch’’’ )		*[https://youtu.be/qgP7KkDesBo?si=KfB3OCDyUA0MiXQX A Video by the YouTube Channel “StacheDTraining” Titled “What [[Firefighting Tools]] for Extinguishing Electric Vehicle Fires Really Work?” ] ( ‘’’~6 Minute Watch’’’ )
			**TLDW: As of that video’s release, none
			**Most Battery “Skateboards” are too sealed up for water / [[AFFF]] to penetrate+do it’s thing (also hard to smother as they can burn on their own to an extent
			**[[Class D Fire Extinguishers]] only work on pure metal fires such as a pile of [[Magnesium Shavings]] etc
			**[[Fire Blankets]] MAY help contain the fire/gas, but combustible/explosive gas buildup becomes an issue
			**Penetrating Nozzles MAY work, but due to the lack of a commom (regulated) point akin to a [[Jack Point]] etc it is unclear if it will work on the first “go”. Also any UNHARMED batteries could be triggered by this device
			***One of the more promising designs though
			***In terms of Design for Firefighting having a “stab here if on fire” placard and/or distribute (open source) training materials on this may be a way of addressing this issue.

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=Basics=
*Part of [[Design for X]] / a subset of [[Design for Safety]] etc
*Essentially rather than assume the battery will not catch fire, assume that it will and design accordingly
**Largely [[Passive Fire Protection]] systems etc
*GRANTED one can also include the preventative aspects of
**[[Battery Management System]] + [[Battery State of Health]] Calculation/Logging
**Recordkeeping on Batch Numbers, [[Recalls]] and whatnot
**[[Battery Thermal Management Systems]] / [[Battery Temperature Probes]]
**[[Design for Inspection]] / [[Design for Disassembly]]
*Finally [[Design for Firefighting]] (especially in terms of [[EV Charging Stations]] and [[BESS]]

=Aspects=
==Containment==
*The Flames and Heat Need to be Contained/Delayed
*Largely covered by [[Firewall]] / [[Firebreak]] materials / knowledge base

==Venting of Smoke/Fumes==
*The mixture of burning electronics, and the materials in the individual cells makes some NASTY fumes
*For portable/smaller devices not much else may be done short of an intentional vent (akin to how in [[Automobile Fires]] , [[Autogas]] / [[CNG]] tanks are designed to vent a flame upwards in a controlled manner
**Also not entirely disimilar from “blowoff panels” in Non-Russian Tank Ammunition Magazines
*Having some sort of Filtration akin to “Cockcroft's Folly” may be neat (Although there isn’t the risk of radioactivity in this case, just nasties in burnt battery/electronics)

==Fire Suppression/Cooling==
*[[Lithium Ion Battery Fires]] / [[EV Fires]] are an emerging type of fire that hasn’t been figured out exactly yey
*[https://youtube.com/@stachedtraining?si=fHOxiAQy4oFCDGJk The YouTube Channel “StacheDTraining” ] has several videos on the topic
*[https://youtu.be/qgP7KkDesBo?si=KfB3OCDyUA0MiXQX A Video by the YouTube Channel “StacheDTraining” Titled “What [[Firefighting Tools]] for Extinguishing Electric Vehicle Fires Really Work?” ] ( ‘’’~6 Minute Watch’’’ )