Frogs into Princes - Revision history

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			*Therapists just aren't producing results. Some people are, but what they are doing isn't being proliferated at a high enough rate. That's one of the functions that I understand us to have: to put information into a form that allows it to be easily learned and widely disseminated.
	*The question for us is not what's “true,” but what is a useful belief system to operate out of as a communicator.		*The question for us is not what's “true,” but what is a useful belief system to operate out of as a communicator.
	*You can assume that any physiological symptom is psychosomatic, and then proceed with reframing— making sure that the person has already made use of all medical resources. We assume that all disease is psychosomatic. We don't really believe that's true. However, if we act as if that's true, then we have ways of responding appropriately and powerfully to people who have difficulties that are not recognized as psychosomatic by medical people.		*You can assume that any physiological symptom is psychosomatic, and then proceed with reframing— making sure that the person has already made use of all medical resources. We assume that all disease is psychosomatic. We don't really believe that's true. However, if we act as if that's true, then we have ways of responding appropriately and powerfully to people who have difficulties that are not recognized as psychosomatic by medical people.

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2025-05-27T06:45:46Z

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			*The question for us is not what's “true,” but what is a useful belief system to operate out of as a communicator.
	*You can assume that any physiological symptom is psychosomatic, and then proceed with reframing— making sure that the person has already made use of all medical resources. We assume that all disease is psychosomatic. We don't really believe that's true. However, if we act as if that's true, then we have ways of responding appropriately and powerfully to people who have difficulties that are not recognized as psychosomatic by medical people.		*You can assume that any physiological symptom is psychosomatic, and then proceed with reframing— making sure that the person has already made use of all medical resources. We assume that all disease is psychosomatic. We don't really believe that's true. However, if we act as if that's true, then we have ways of responding appropriately and powerfully to people who have difficulties that are not recognized as psychosomatic by medical people.
	*It's important for some people to have the illusion that their conscious mind controls their behavior. It’s a particularly virulent form of insanity among college professors, psychiatrists, and lawyers. They believe that consciousness is the way they run their lives. If you believe that, there is an experiment you can try. The next time somebody extends their hand to shake hands with you, I want you to consciously not lift your hand, and find out whether your hand goes up or not. My guess is that your conscious mind won't even discover that it is time to interrupt the behavior until your hand is at least half-way up. And that's just a comment about who's in control.		*It's important for some people to have the illusion that their conscious mind controls their behavior. It’s a particularly virulent form of insanity among college professors, psychiatrists, and lawyers. They believe that consciousness is the way they run their lives. If you believe that, there is an experiment you can try. The next time somebody extends their hand to shake hands with you, I want you to consciously not lift your hand, and find out whether your hand goes up or not. My guess is that your conscious mind won't even discover that it is time to interrupt the behavior until your hand is at least half-way up. And that's just a comment about who's in control.

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2025-05-27T06:44:52Z

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			*You can assume that any physiological symptom is psychosomatic, and then proceed with reframing— making sure that the person has already made use of all medical resources. We assume that all disease is psychosomatic. We don't really believe that's true. However, if we act as if that's true, then we have ways of responding appropriately and powerfully to people who have difficulties that are not recognized as psychosomatic by medical people.
	*It's important for some people to have the illusion that their conscious mind controls their behavior. It’s a particularly virulent form of insanity among college professors, psychiatrists, and lawyers. They believe that consciousness is the way they run their lives. If you believe that, there is an experiment you can try. The next time somebody extends their hand to shake hands with you, I want you to consciously not lift your hand, and find out whether your hand goes up or not. My guess is that your conscious mind won't even discover that it is time to interrupt the behavior until your hand is at least half-way up. And that's just a comment about who's in control.		*It's important for some people to have the illusion that their conscious mind controls their behavior. It’s a particularly virulent form of insanity among college professors, psychiatrists, and lawyers. They believe that consciousness is the way they run their lives. If you believe that, there is an experiment you can try. The next time somebody extends their hand to shake hands with you, I want you to consciously not lift your hand, and find out whether your hand goes up or not. My guess is that your conscious mind won't even discover that it is time to interrupt the behavior until your hand is at least half-way up. And that's just a comment about who's in control.
	*The unconscious previously had only one choice about how to get what it wants. Now it's got at least four choices — three new ones and the old one.		*The unconscious previously had only one choice about how to get what it wants. Now it's got at least four choices — three new ones and the old one.

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2025-05-27T06:39:39Z

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			*It's important for some people to have the illusion that their conscious mind controls their behavior. It’s a particularly virulent form of insanity among college professors, psychiatrists, and lawyers. They believe that consciousness is the way they run their lives. If you believe that, there is an experiment you can try. The next time somebody extends their hand to shake hands with you, I want you to consciously not lift your hand, and find out whether your hand goes up or not. My guess is that your conscious mind won't even discover that it is time to interrupt the behavior until your hand is at least half-way up. And that's just a comment about who's in control.
	*The unconscious previously had only one choice about how to get what it wants. Now it's got at least four choices — three new ones and the old one.		*The unconscious previously had only one choice about how to get what it wants. Now it's got at least four choices — three new ones and the old one.
	*He said "You know, my wife and I really haven't been able to get together, and it got so bad that I really felt I had strong needs and I went out and had this affair," and she said "I understand how you could do that.” And they went on and on like this for a full hour.		*He said "You know, my wife and I really haven't been able to get together, and it got so bad that I really felt I had strong needs and I went out and had this affair," and she said "I understand how you could do that.” And they went on and on like this for a full hour.

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			*The unconscious previously had only one choice about how to get what it wants. Now it's got at least four choices — three new ones and the old one.
	*He said "You know, my wife and I really haven't been able to get together, and it got so bad that I really felt I had strong needs and I went out and had this affair," and she said "I understand how you could do that.” And they went on and on like this for a full hour.		*He said "You know, my wife and I really haven't been able to get together, and it got so bad that I really felt I had strong needs and I went out and had this affair," and she said "I understand how you could do that.” And they went on and on like this for a full hour.

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2025-05-27T06:33:06Z

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			*He said "You know, my wife and I really haven't been able to get together, and it got so bad that I really felt I had strong needs and I went out and had this affair," and she said "I understand how you could do that.” And they went on and on like this for a full hour.

			At the end of the hour she turned to me and she said "Well, is there anything that you would like to add?" I stood up and looked at the guy and said "I want to tell you that I think you're the biggest punk I have ever met! Going out and screwing around behind your wife's back, and coming here and crying on this woman's shoulder. That's going to get you nothing, since you aren't going to change, and you're going to be as miserable as you are now for the rest of your life unless you grab yourself by the bootheels, give yourself a good kick in the butt, and go tell your wife how you want her to act with you. Tell her in explicit enough words so that she will know exactly what you want her to do. If you don't do that, you're going to be as miserable as you are now forever and no one will be able to help you." That was the exact opposite of what that therapist had done. He was devastated, just devastated. He left the office and went home and worked it all out with his wife. He did all of the things I'd told him to do, and then he called me up on the telephone and told me it was the most important experience of his life.
	*If you decide before you begin a communication what will constitute a "valid" response, then the probability that you’ll get it is reduced severely.		*If you decide before you begin a communication what will constitute a "valid" response, then the probability that you’ll get it is reduced severely.
	*you can have experience without reflexive consciousness, and he called that "being in the here and now.” We call it "uptime."		*you can have experience without reflexive consciousness, and he called that "being in the here and now.” We call it "uptime."

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2025-05-27T06:28:10Z

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			*If you decide before you begin a communication what will constitute a "valid" response, then the probability that you’ll get it is reduced severely.
	*you can have experience without reflexive consciousness, and he called that "being in the here and now.” We call it "uptime."		*you can have experience without reflexive consciousness, and he called that "being in the here and now.” We call it "uptime."
	*When Fritz Peris said "Lose your mind and come to your senses," and to have awareness, I think he was talking about experience		*When Fritz Peris said "Lose your mind and come to your senses," and to have awareness, I think he was talking about experience

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2025-05-27T06:24:53Z

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			*you can have experience without reflexive consciousness, and he called that "being in the here and now.” We call it "uptime."
	*When Fritz Peris said "Lose your mind and come to your senses," and to have awareness, I think he was talking about experience		*When Fritz Peris said "Lose your mind and come to your senses," and to have awareness, I think he was talking about experience
	*Virginia Satir is precise about her use of langauge, and Milton Erickson is even more precise. If you are precise about the way you phrase questions, you will get precise kinds of information back		*Virginia Satir is precise about her use of langauge, and Milton Erickson is even more precise. If you are precise about the way you phrase questions, you will get precise kinds of information back

Marcin: /* Notes */

2025-05-27T06:23:33Z

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			*When Fritz Peris said "Lose your mind and come to your senses," and to have awareness, I think he was talking about experience
	*Virginia Satir is precise about her use of langauge, and Milton Erickson is even more precise. If you are precise about the way you phrase questions, you will get precise kinds of information back		*Virginia Satir is precise about her use of langauge, and Milton Erickson is even more precise. If you are precise about the way you phrase questions, you will get precise kinds of information back
	*Do you know anyone else who is able to do this? I want you to review with vivid detail in picture and sound and feeling what they do, and then have this part of you consider those possibilities. ” That’sjust a way of doing what we call "referential index shift."		*Do you know anyone else who is able to do this? I want you to review with vivid detail in picture and sound and feeling what they do, and then have this part of you consider those possibilities. ” That’sjust a way of doing what we call "referential index shift."

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2025-05-27T06:20:57Z

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			*Virginia Satir is precise about her use of langauge, and Milton Erickson is even more precise. If you are precise about the way you phrase questions, you will get precise kinds of information back
	*Do you know anyone else who is able to do this? I want you to review with vivid detail in picture and sound and feeling what they do, and then have this part of you consider those possibilities. ” That’sjust a way of doing what we call "referential index shift."		*Do you know anyone else who is able to do this? I want you to review with vivid detail in picture and sound and feeling what they do, and then have this part of you consider those possibilities. ” That’sjust a way of doing what we call "referential index shift."
	*When the symptom is identified as a signal, the client begins to pay attention to it as a message. It probably always was a message anyway, but they never thought about it that way.		*When the symptom is identified as a signal, the client begins to pay attention to it as a message. It probably always was a message anyway, but they never thought about it that way.