Frost Free Hydrant - Revision history

Marcin: /* Links */

2021-10-24T01:51:21Z

Links

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	*[[Irrigation Hose]]		*[[Irrigation Hose]]
	*[[Potable Water Pipe]]		*[[Potable Water Pipe]]
			*[[Pitless Adapter]]

Marcin: /* Pitless Adapter */

2021-10-24T01:19:57Z

Pitless Adapter

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	*1-1/4" - $40 [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pumps-tanks/pump-well-tank-accessories/water-source-1-1-4-brass-pitless-adapter/pa125/p-1444446041550-c-8672.htm?tid=-1346014521609591809&ipos=13]		*1-1/4" - $40 [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pumps-tanks/pump-well-tank-accessories/water-source-1-1-4-brass-pitless-adapter/pa125/p-1444446041550-c-8672.htm?tid=-1346014521609591809&ipos=13]
	*1-1/4" reducer to 3/4" - [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pipe-fittings/brass-fittings/sioux-chief-mip-x-fip-lead-free-brass-hex-bushing/0122278/p-1444442651640.htm]		*1-1/4" reducer to 3/4" - [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pipe-fittings/brass-fittings/sioux-chief-mip-x-fip-lead-free-brass-hex-bushing/0122278/p-1444442651640.htm]
			*Hydrant - [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/valves/yard-hydrants/water-source-frost-proof-yard-hydrant/yh-4/p-1444446045937-c-8630.htm?tid=1875827256696134031&ipos=1]. Note max 80 PSI, so this can't be used on house supply side unless pressure reduction is achieved upstream. This is not readily done without a 'water pit' or water supply house earlier on in the system.
			*Hydrant repair kit - [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/valves/valve-accessories-repair/water-source-yard-hydrant-repair-kit/yhrk1/p-1444446046114.htm]

	=Links=		=Links=

Marcin: /* Pitless Adapter */

2021-10-24T01:09:53Z

Pitless Adapter

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	=Pitless Adapter=		=Pitless Adapter=
	*1-1/4" - $40 [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pumps-tanks/pump-well-tank-accessories/water-source-1-1-4-brass-pitless-adapter/pa125/p-1444446041550-c-8672.htm?tid=-1346014521609591809&ipos=13]		*1-1/4" - $40 [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pumps-tanks/pump-well-tank-accessories/water-source-1-1-4-brass-pitless-adapter/pa125/p-1444446041550-c-8672.htm?tid=-1346014521609591809&ipos=13]
			*1-1/4" reducer to 3/4" - [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pipe-fittings/brass-fittings/sioux-chief-mip-x-fip-lead-free-brass-hex-bushing/0122278/p-1444442651640.htm]

	=Links=		=Links=

Marcin: /* OSE Campus Policy Recommendation */

2021-10-24T01:06:23Z

OSE Campus Policy Recommendation

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	Furthermore, when installing freeze-proof hydrants - use a [[Pitless Adapter]] for easy replacement.		Furthermore, when installing freeze-proof hydrants - use a [[Pitless Adapter]] for easy replacement.

			=Pitless Adapter=
			*1-1/4" - $40 [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pumps-tanks/pump-well-tank-accessories/water-source-1-1-4-brass-pitless-adapter/pa125/p-1444446041550-c-8672.htm?tid=-1346014521609591809&ipos=13]

	=Links=		=Links=

Marcin: /* Summary */

2021-10-24T01:04:25Z

Summary

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	*The ultimate solution is the [[Pitless Adapter]] in terms of replacement. Slide-in connection, no dig required. Saves huge costs of excavation-replacement		*The ultimate solution is the [[Pitless Adapter]] in terms of replacement. Slide-in connection, no dig required. Saves huge costs of excavation-replacement

	=~~Summary~~=		=OSE Campus Policy Recommendation=
	Frost free hydrants should be used strategically. In large open areas where stock watering is required - absolutely. But nowhere else. Expect maintenance of valves, and replament every decade or two. This is especially challenging if other lines such as electrical or internet complicate routing. Conclusion: do not use freeze-proof hydrants unless absolutely necessary. Absolutely necessary means ONLY daily supply in freezing weather. Not summer watering/pools/filling. Those should be in non-frost areas, or rolled up in winter. Long supply line is cheap ($100 for 1000 feet [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rain-Bird-1-2-in-x-500-ft-Distribution-Tubing-for-Drip-Irrigation-T63-500S/202262487])		Frost free hydrants should be used strategically. In large open areas where stock watering is required - absolutely. But nowhere else. Expect maintenance of valves, and replament every decade or two. This is especially challenging if other lines such as electrical or internet complicate routing. Conclusion: do not use freeze-proof hydrants unless absolutely necessary. Absolutely necessary means ONLY daily supply in freezing weather. Not summer watering/pools/filling. Those should be in non-frost areas, or rolled up in winter. Long supply line is cheap ($100 for 1000 feet [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rain-Bird-1-2-in-x-500-ft-Distribution-Tubing-for-Drip-Irrigation-T63-500S/202262487]).

			Furthermore, when installing freeze-proof hydrants - use a [[Pitless Adapter]] for easy replacement.

	=Links=		=Links=

Marcin: /* Replacement */

2021-10-24T01:01:29Z

Replacement

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	=Replacement=		=Replacement=
	*The ultimate solution is the [[Pitless Adapter]]		*The ultimate solution is the [[Pitless Adapter]] in terms of replacement. Slide-in connection, no dig required. Saves huge costs of excavation-replacement

	=Summary=		=Summary=

Marcin at 00:48, 24 October 2021

2021-10-24T00:48:05Z

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	*PVC and plastic lasts indefinitely [https://abbottsplumbing.com/plumbing-replacement/how-long-do-pipes-last/#:~:text=They%20still%20last%20a%20pretty,drain%20lines%20will%20last%20indefinitely.]		*PVC and plastic lasts indefinitely [https://abbottsplumbing.com/plumbing-replacement/how-long-do-pipes-last/#:~:text=They%20still%20last%20a%20pretty,drain%20lines%20will%20last%20indefinitely.]
	*Galvanized pipes last between 20-50 years [https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&sxsrf=AOaemvImpFQctDhn2UfklP0UcngfgETRBA%3A1635034699316&ei=S6Z0Ydy1EqKtqtsPhfSw2Aw&ved=0ahUKEwich8rz4uHzAhWilmoFHQU6DMsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEM0CMgUIABDNAjoHCAAQRxCwAzoGCAAQBxAeOggIABAIEAcQHjoFCAAQhgM6BQgAEIAEOgYIABAIEB46BAghEApKBAhBGABQ7xlY2zdgljpoA3ACeACAAXiIAdsKkgEDNS44mAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz]		*Galvanized pipes last between 20-50 years [https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&sxsrf=AOaemvImpFQctDhn2UfklP0UcngfgETRBA%3A1635034699316&ei=S6Z0Ydy1EqKtqtsPhfSw2Aw&ved=0ahUKEwich8rz4uHzAhWilmoFHQU6DMsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEM0CMgUIABDNAjoHCAAQRxCwAzoGCAAQBxAeOggIABAIEAcQHjoFCAAQhgM6BQgAEIAEOgYIABAIEB46BAghEApKBAhBGABQ7xlY2zdgljpoA3ACeACAAXiIAdsKkgEDNS44mAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz]

			=Replacement=
			*The ultimate solution is the [[Pitless Adapter]]

	=Summary=		=Summary=

Marcin at 00:47, 24 October 2021

2021-10-24T00:47:27Z

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	**Note some soils can be very corrosive [https://mitimfg.com/blog/2019/11/8/a-common-cause-of-frost-free-yard-hydrant-failure-external-corrosion]		**Note some soils can be very corrosive [https://mitimfg.com/blog/2019/11/8/a-common-cause-of-frost-free-yard-hydrant-failure-external-corrosion]
	*PVC and plastic lasts indefinitely [https://abbottsplumbing.com/plumbing-replacement/how-long-do-pipes-last/#:~:text=They%20still%20last%20a%20pretty,drain%20lines%20will%20last%20indefinitely.]		*PVC and plastic lasts indefinitely [https://abbottsplumbing.com/plumbing-replacement/how-long-do-pipes-last/#:~:text=They%20still%20last%20a%20pretty,drain%20lines%20will%20last%20indefinitely.]
	*Galvanized pipes last between 20-50 ~~yeaars~~ [https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&sxsrf=AOaemvImpFQctDhn2UfklP0UcngfgETRBA%3A1635034699316&ei=S6Z0Ydy1EqKtqtsPhfSw2Aw&ved=0ahUKEwich8rz4uHzAhWilmoFHQU6DMsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEM0CMgUIABDNAjoHCAAQRxCwAzoGCAAQBxAeOggIABAIEAcQHjoFCAAQhgM6BQgAEIAEOgYIABAIEB46BAghEApKBAhBGABQ7xlY2zdgljpoA3ACeACAAXiIAdsKkgEDNS44mAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz]		*Galvanized pipes last between 20-50 years [https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&sxsrf=AOaemvImpFQctDhn2UfklP0UcngfgETRBA%3A1635034699316&ei=S6Z0Ydy1EqKtqtsPhfSw2Aw&ved=0ahUKEwich8rz4uHzAhWilmoFHQU6DMsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEM0CMgUIABDNAjoHCAAQRxCwAzoGCAAQBxAeOggIABAIEAcQHjoFCAAQhgM6BQgAEIAEOgYIABAIEB46BAghEApKBAhBGABQ7xlY2zdgljpoA3ACeACAAXiIAdsKkgEDNS44mAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz]

	=Summary=		=Summary=

Marcin at 00:45, 24 October 2021

2021-10-24T00:45:40Z

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	*Brand matters. Reports of life from 1-5 years for really crappy ones, others are more like decades of life [https://forum.chronofhorse.com/t/barn-renovation-frost-free-hydrants/755227/37]		*Brand matters. Reports of life from 1-5 years for really crappy ones, others are more like decades of life [https://forum.chronofhorse.com/t/barn-renovation-frost-free-hydrants/755227/37]
	*OSE experience - galvanized pipe corrodes over 9 years - see bottom of hydrant all corroded in album [https://photos.app.goo.gl/MTNJMSdJQhya3jbSA]. In album picture, brass seems to eat galvanized through electrolytic action - [https://www.plbg.com/forum/read.php?1,466241#:~:text=quote%3B%20Galvanic%20action%20is%20not,the%20two%20are%20connected%20together.]		*OSE experience - galvanized pipe corrodes over 9 years - see bottom of hydrant all corroded in album [https://photos.app.goo.gl/MTNJMSdJQhya3jbSA]. In album picture, brass seems to eat galvanized through electrolytic action - [https://www.plbg.com/forum/read.php?1,466241#:~:text=quote%3B%20Galvanic%20action%20is%20not,the%20two%20are%20connected%20together.]
			**Note some soils can be very corrosive [https://mitimfg.com/blog/2019/11/8/a-common-cause-of-frost-free-yard-hydrant-failure-external-corrosion]
	*PVC and plastic lasts indefinitely [https://abbottsplumbing.com/plumbing-replacement/how-long-do-pipes-last/#:~:text=They%20still%20last%20a%20pretty,drain%20lines%20will%20last%20indefinitely.]		*PVC and plastic lasts indefinitely [https://abbottsplumbing.com/plumbing-replacement/how-long-do-pipes-last/#:~:text=They%20still%20last%20a%20pretty,drain%20lines%20will%20last%20indefinitely.]
	*Galvanized pipes last between 20-50 yeaars [https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&sxsrf=AOaemvImpFQctDhn2UfklP0UcngfgETRBA%3A1635034699316&ei=S6Z0Ydy1EqKtqtsPhfSw2Aw&ved=0ahUKEwich8rz4uHzAhWilmoFHQU6DMsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEM0CMgUIABDNAjoHCAAQRxCwAzoGCAAQBxAeOggIABAIEAcQHjoFCAAQhgM6BQgAEIAEOgYIABAIEB46BAghEApKBAhBGABQ7xlY2zdgljpoA3ACeACAAXiIAdsKkgEDNS44mAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz]		*Galvanized pipes last between 20-50 yeaars [https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&sxsrf=AOaemvImpFQctDhn2UfklP0UcngfgETRBA%3A1635034699316&ei=S6Z0Ydy1EqKtqtsPhfSw2Aw&ved=0ahUKEwich8rz4uHzAhWilmoFHQU6DMsQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=how+long+does+steel+pipe+last+underground&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEM0CMgUIABDNAjoHCAAQRxCwAzoGCAAQBxAeOggIABAIEAcQHjoFCAAQhgM6BQgAEIAEOgYIABAIEB46BAghEApKBAhBGABQ7xlY2zdgljpoA3ACeACAAXiIAdsKkgEDNS44mAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz]

Marcin: /* Links */

2021-10-24T00:38:46Z

Links

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	*[[Garden Hose]]		*[[Garden Hose]]
	*[[Irrigation Hose]]		*[[Irrigation Hose]]
			*[[Potable Water Pipe]]