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*6 cu m or 200 scf in a high pressure welding cylinder - [http://www.hionsolar.com/solarhydrogen.pdf]. If hydrogen has about 250 BTU per cu ft, then a 200 scf tank has about 4 kW hr of energy when burned in a small gas engine. <br />
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