IBC Tote - Revision history

Marcin: /* Links */

2026-04-11T19:07:15Z

Links

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	=Links=		=Links=
	*[[330 Gallon Tote]]		*[[330 Gallon Tote]]
			*[[Thermal Battery]]
	[[Category: Organization and Storage]] [[Category: Materials]]		[[Category: Organization and Storage]] [[Category: Materials]]

Marcin: /* About */

2026-04-11T19:01:56Z

About

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	=About=		=About=
	These are [[International Bulk Container]]s. 250 gallon up to 330 gallon. Can be stacked 2 high when full - [[330 Gallon Tote]]		These are [[International Bulk Container]]s. 250 gallon up to 330 gallon. Can be stacked 2 high when full - [[330 Gallon Tote]]

			=Sourcing=
			*https://kansascity.craigslist.org/search/sss?query=275%20gallon%20ibc%20totes#search=2~gallery~27

	=Specifications=		=Specifications=

Marcin: /* Energy Storage */

2023-12-03T17:33:08Z

Energy Storage

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	=Energy Storage=		=Energy Storage=
	*From 80F to 140F, we have 60F, so using [[Water Heating Calculator]] - we get 37 kWhr stored per tote. 24000 BTU is 7 kW.		*From 80F to 140F, we have 60F, so using [[Water Heating Calculator]] - we get 37 kWhr stored per tote. 24000 BTU is 7 kWhr. 37 kWhr gets us 5 hours of heat storage. Thus, '''5 IBC Totes are sufficient to store heat for a house for 1 day.'''
	*Thus, we store 5 hours of a heat pump's thermal output in a single IBC tote! This is very much practical for thermal storage in winter.		*Thus, we store 5 hours of a heat pump's thermal output in a single IBC tote! This is very much practical for thermal storage in winter.
	*We would need 5 totes to store heat for one day, 10 totes for 2 days' worth. This appears to be a practical option.		*We would need 5 totes to store heat for one day, 10 totes for 2 days' worth. This appears to be a practical option.

Marcin: /* About */

2023-12-03T17:31:35Z

About

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	These are [[International Bulk Container]]s. Can be stacked 2 high when full - [[330 Gallon Tote]]		These are [[International Bulk Container]]s. 250 gallon up to 330 gallon. Can be stacked 2 high when full - [[330 Gallon Tote]]

	=Specifications=		=Specifications=

Marcin: /* About */

2023-12-03T17:31:15Z

About

← Older revision		Revision as of 17:31, 3 December 2023
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	=About=		=About=
	Can be stacked 2 high when full - [[330 Gallon Tote]]		These are [[International Bulk Container]]s. Can be stacked 2 high when full - [[330 Gallon Tote]]

	=Specifications=		=Specifications=

Marcin: /* Energy Storage */

2023-11-21T21:00:13Z

Energy Storage

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	*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today, big enough for a 3000 sf house.		*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today, big enough for a 3000 sf house.
	*Another solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating, which is 3x more inefficient. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.		*Another solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating, which is 3x more inefficient. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.
	*'''Summary: invest $6k in the Arctic Heat Pump and have ample storage of heat or cool, with the crawlspace of SEH 2000 filled with 25 totes and water for cooling and heating, so even if you have no sun in the winter (or summer) for 5 days you have full heating and cooling from the 12kW PV system! Additional overall investment is $3k solar + $2.5k totes + $4k added heat pump = $9.5k		*'''Summary: invest $6k in the [[Arctic Heat Pump]] and have ample storage of heat or cool, with the crawlspace of SEH 2000 filled with 25 totes and water for cooling and heating, so even if you have no sun in the winter (or summer) for 5 days you have full heating and cooling from the 12kW PV system! Additional overall investment is $3k solar + $2.5k totes + $4k added heat pump = $9.5k

	=Hydrogen Storage=		=Hydrogen Storage=

Marcin: /* Energy Storage */

2023-11-21T20:58:52Z

Energy Storage

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	*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today, big enough for a 3000 sf house.		*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today, big enough for a 3000 sf house.
	*Another solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating, which is 3x more inefficient. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.		*Another solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating, which is 3x more inefficient. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.
	*'''Summary: invest $6k in the Arctic Heat Pump and have ample storage of heat or cool, with the crawlspace of SEH 2000 filled with 50 totes and water for cooling and heating, so even if you have no sun in the winter (or summer) for 10 days you have full heating and cooling from the 12kW PV system! Additional overall investment is $3k solar + $~~10k~~ totes + $4k added heat pump = $~~17k~~.		*'''Summary: invest $6k in the Arctic Heat Pump and have ample storage of heat or cool, with the crawlspace of SEH 2000 filled with 25 totes and water for cooling and heating, so even if you have no sun in the winter (or summer) for 5 days you have full heating and cooling from the 12kW PV system! Additional overall investment is $3k solar + $2.5k totes + $4k added heat pump = $9.5k

	=Hydrogen Storage=		=Hydrogen Storage=

Marcin: /* Energy Storage */

2023-11-21T20:57:50Z

Energy Storage

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	*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today, big enough for a 3000 sf house.		*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today, big enough for a 3000 sf house.
	*Another solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating, which is 3x more inefficient. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.		*Another solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating, which is 3x more inefficient. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.
	*'''Summary: invest $6k in the Arctic Heat Pump and have ample storage of heat or cool, with the crawlspace of SEH 2000 filled with ~~100~~ totes and water for cooling and heating, so even if you have no sun in the winter (or summer) for 20 days you have full heating and cooling from the 12kW PV system!		*'''Summary: invest $6k in the Arctic Heat Pump and have ample storage of heat or cool, with the crawlspace of SEH 2000 filled with 50 totes and water for cooling and heating, so even if you have no sun in the winter (or summer) for 10 days you have full heating and cooling from the 12kW PV system! Additional overall investment is $3k solar + $10k totes + $4k added heat pump = $17k.

	=Hydrogen Storage=		=Hydrogen Storage=

Marcin: /* Energy Storage */

2023-08-19T17:04:20Z

Energy Storage

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	*Thus, we store 5 hours of a heat pump's thermal output in a single IBC tote! This is very much practical for thermal storage in winter.		*Thus, we store 5 hours of a heat pump's thermal output in a single IBC tote! This is very much practical for thermal storage in winter.
	*We would need 5 totes to store heat for one day, 10 totes for 2 days' worth. This appears to be a practical option.		*We would need 5 totes to store heat for one day, 10 totes for 2 days' worth. This appears to be a practical option.
	*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today..		*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today, big enough for a 3000 sf house.
	*~~The immeidiate~~ solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.		*Another solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating, which is 3x more inefficient. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.
			*'''Summary: invest $6k in the Arctic Heat Pump and have ample storage of heat or cool, with the crawlspace of SEH 2000 filled with 100 totes and water for cooling and heating, so even if you have no sun in the winter (or summer) for 20 days you have full heating and cooling from the 12kW PV system!

	=Hydrogen Storage=		=Hydrogen Storage=

Marcin: /* Energy Storage */

2023-08-19T17:00:22Z

Energy Storage

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	*Thus, we store 5 hours of a heat pump's thermal output in a single IBC tote! This is very much practical for thermal storage in winter.		*Thus, we store 5 hours of a heat pump's thermal output in a single IBC tote! This is very much practical for thermal storage in winter.
	*We would need 5 totes to store heat for one day, 10 totes for 2 days' worth. This appears to be a practical option.		*We would need 5 totes to store heat for one day, 10 totes for 2 days' worth. This appears to be a practical option.
	*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]].		*However, standard heat pumps output 92F heat. Thus, a different working fluid would need to be used to achieve a higher temperature, such as [[Sanco]] heat pumps which work on CO2 as the refrigerant, which is readily available. See [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] - the Arctic Heat Pump there is a ready solution for air-to-water heating and cooling at $6k for a system today..
	*The immeidiate solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.		*The immeidiate solution is to use PV to heat via resistive heating. We would need a minimum of 16 hours heat per day, or 112 kWhr. Assuming only 6 hours of light in the winter, this would need a 19kW PV panel system. Not good. Or, a wind turbine.