Legitamacy - Revision history

Eric: Moved the Page's Content to a Title Typo Free Page

2025-10-27T00:50:42Z

Moved the Page's Content to a Title Typo Free Page

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	~~=Basics=~~		#REDIRECT: [[Legitimacy]]
	*This page is largely going to be a rant/op ed (ALBEIT with plans, not just bringing up problems with no suggested solutions!), so keep that in mind
	*HOWEVER feel free to fix typos etc, or chime in, discussion/brainstorming is appreciated

	~~=Bit by [[User~~: ~~Eric]] =~~
	~~==Background==~~
	*In the process of bringing up going to the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] etc, i had to kind of explain what it was
	*Granted i wasn’t prepped either, so that lack of an [[Elevator Pitch]] (being tired from work ( [[Burnout]] from my current job is kicking in BIG TIME, plus if i just came off of an intense job (lots of shoveling/wearing a tyvek in a tank etc) i don’t have physical energy either) sure didn’t help
	*’’’Either Way’’’
	**As of what i gathered from their input…they see me working at ose as about as logical of a decision as [[Running Off to Join the Circus]]…not great

	~~==Points Brough Up==~~
	*Past Issues (They didn’t say where they read it, but sounded like some people having bad experiences (I’m guessing in the early days where there wasn’t much [[FeF Infrastructure]]
	*Current Money (or Lack Thereof)
	**Mentioned some form, 501c i think? (The Non-Profit Form Thing) and extrapolated that to mean “They Wouldn’t Have the Money to Pay You” etc

	~~===Potential Counterpoints===~~
	*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)
	**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much kn updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into bot Funds and Legitimacy~~/ [[Social Currency]]~~
	*The Point of Money is a ‘’bit’’ more concerning
	**First things first i can catch up on reading up on that myself
	**Secondly there is a case to be made for [[Build it and They Will Come]] to be considered
	***GRANTED charlatans using the whole “oh it’s like buying stock in apple before they were big, THEY Started in a garage too” (which i think was a bit of a fake story in of itself) is a common theme in today’s world so some proper data needs to be gathered to support that argument, but at least as a working adult who has seen: Education (by being in it as a student/apprentice), Construction, Environmental Services, and Industrial Work etc…there ABSOLUTELY IS POTENTIAL for improvement/overhaul. Revolutionary even, but it all is a matter of funds and [[Herding Cats]]
	***Looking into [[Business Loans]] , another [[Crowdsourcing]] Round/Project, or even just more PR and thus more [[Patreon]] / [[Real Fans]] (or whatever the name was) donations is another option
	***Looking into hard data on profit per project and on-contract or potential planned projects is another aspect of this

	~~=Internal Links=~~
	*[[Accreditation]] an Institutional form of Legitimacy

	~~=External Links=~~
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Eric: Added some more information

2025-06-19T02:01:34Z

Added some more information

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	***Looking into [[Business Loans]] , another [[Crowdsourcing]] Round/Project, or even just more PR and thus more [[Patreon]] / [[Real Fans]] (or whatever the name was) donations is another option		***Looking into [[Business Loans]] , another [[Crowdsourcing]] Round/Project, or even just more PR and thus more [[Patreon]] / [[Real Fans]] (or whatever the name was) donations is another option
	***Looking into hard data on profit per project and on-contract or potential planned projects is another aspect of this		***Looking into hard data on profit per project and on-contract or potential planned projects is another aspect of this

			=Internal Links=
			*[[Accreditation]] an Institutional form of Legitimacy

			=External Links=
			*

Eric: Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

2025-06-18T17:43:04Z

Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

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	*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)		*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)
	**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much kn updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into bot Funds and Legitimacy/ [[Social Currency]]		**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much kn updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into bot Funds and Legitimacy/ [[Social Currency]]
			*The Point of Money is a ‘’bit’’ more concerning
			**First things first i can catch up on reading up on that myself
			**Secondly there is a case to be made for [[Build it and They Will Come]] to be considered
			***GRANTED charlatans using the whole “oh it’s like buying stock in apple before they were big, THEY Started in a garage too” (which i think was a bit of a fake story in of itself) is a common theme in today’s world so some proper data needs to be gathered to support that argument, but at least as a working adult who has seen: Education (by being in it as a student/apprentice), Construction, Environmental Services, and Industrial Work etc…there ABSOLUTELY IS POTENTIAL for improvement/overhaul. Revolutionary even, but it all is a matter of funds and [[Herding Cats]]
			***Looking into [[Business Loans]] , another [[Crowdsourcing]] Round/Project, or even just more PR and thus more [[Patreon]] / [[Real Fans]] (or whatever the name was) donations is another option
			***Looking into hard data on profit per project and on-contract or potential planned projects is another aspect of this

Eric: Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

2025-06-18T17:32:49Z

Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

New page

=Basics=
*This page is largely going to be a rant/op ed (ALBEIT with plans, not just bringing up problems with no suggested solutions!), so keep that in mind
*HOWEVER feel free to fix typos etc, or chime in, discussion/brainstorming is appreciated

=Bit by [[User: Eric]] =
==Background==
*In the process of bringing up going to the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] etc, i had to kind of explain what it was
*Granted i wasn’t prepped either, so that lack of an [[Elevator Pitch]] (being tired from work ( [[Burnout]] from my current job is kicking in BIG TIME, plus if i just came off of an intense job (lots of shoveling/wearing a tyvek in a tank etc) i don’t have physical energy either) sure didn’t help
*’’’Either Way’’’
**As of what i gathered from their input…they see me working at ose as about as logical of a decision as [[Running Off to Join the Circus]]…not great

==Points Brough Up==
*Past Issues (They didn’t say where they read it, but sounded like some people having bad experiences (I’m guessing in the early days where there wasn’t much [[FeF Infrastructure]]
*Current Money (or Lack Thereof)
**Mentioned some form, 501c i think? (The Non-Profit Form Thing) and extrapolated that to mean “They Wouldn’t Have the Money to Pay You” etc

===Potential Counterpoints===
*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)
**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much kn updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into bot Funds and Legitimacy/ [[Social Currency]]