Legitimacy - Revision history

Eric: Added some more information

2025-10-27T01:08:52Z

Added some more information

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	*[[OSHWA]] and other related "Compliance" Stuff		*[[OSHWA]] and other related "Compliance" Stuff
	*[[UL]] / [[NFPA]] etc ( "UL Listed Equipment" )		*[[UL]] / [[NFPA]] etc ( "UL Listed Equipment" )
			*[[Networking]] / [[Coalition Building]]
			**Reaching out to more creators such as [[Louis Rossman]] and Cross-Promoting and all that would probably do wonders too

	=External Links=		=External Links=
	*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_legitimacy The Wikipedia Page on Political Legitimacy] (Not entirely related, but closest thing on-wikipedia)		*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_legitimacy The Wikipedia Page on Political Legitimacy] (Not entirely related, but closest thing on-wikipedia)

Eric: Minor Clarification

2025-10-27T01:07:46Z

Minor Clarification

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	===Potential Counterpoints===		===Potential Counterpoints===
	*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)		*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)
	**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much on updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into ~~bot~~ Funds and Legitimacy/ [[Social Currency]]		**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much on updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into more Funds and Legitimacy / [[Social Currency]]
	*The Point of Money is a ‘’bit’’ more concerning		*The Point of Money is a ‘’bit’’ more concerning
	**First things first i can catch up on reading up on that myself		**First things first i can catch up on reading up on that myself

Eric: Minor Typo Fix

2025-10-27T01:05:50Z

Minor Typo Fix

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	===Potential Counterpoints===		===Potential Counterpoints===
	*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)		*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)
	**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much kn updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into bot Funds and Legitimacy/ [[Social Currency]]		**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much on updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into bot Funds and Legitimacy/ [[Social Currency]]
	*The Point of Money is a ‘’bit’’ more concerning		*The Point of Money is a ‘’bit’’ more concerning
	**First things first i can catch up on reading up on that myself		**First things first i can catch up on reading up on that myself

Eric: Added some more links under the "Internal Links" section

2025-10-27T00:57:12Z

Added some more links under the "Internal Links" section

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	=Internal Links=		=Internal Links=
	*[[Accreditation]] an Institutional form of Legitimacy		*[[Accreditation]] an Institutional form of Legitimacy
			*[[Evidence Based Philanthropy]] / [[Effective Altruism]]
			*[[Charity Navigator]] and other watchdogs
			*[[OSHWA]] and other related "Compliance" Stuff
			*[[UL]] / [[NFPA]] etc ( "UL Listed Equipment" )

	=External Links=		=External Links=
	*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_legitimacy The Wikipedia Page on Political Legitimacy] (Not entirely related, but closest thing on-wikipedia)		*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_legitimacy The Wikipedia Page on Political Legitimacy] (Not entirely related, but closest thing on-wikipedia)

Eric: Added some more links under the "External Links" section

2025-10-27T00:54:35Z

Added some more links under the "External Links" section

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	=External Links=		=External Links=
	*		*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_legitimacy The Wikipedia Page on Political Legitimacy] (Not entirely related, but closest thing on-wikipedia)

Eric: Minor Typo Fix

2025-10-27T00:51:55Z

Minor Typo Fix

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	==Points Brough Up==		==Points Brough Up==
	*Past Issues (They didn’t say where they read it, but sounded like some people having bad experiences (I’m guessing in the early days where there wasn’t much [[FeF Infrastructure]]		*Past Issues (They didn’t say where they read it, but sounded like some people having bad experiences (I’m guessing in the early days where there wasn’t much [[FeF Infrastructure]] ) )
	*Current Money (or Lack Thereof)		*Current Money (or Lack Thereof)
	**Mentioned some form, 501c i think? (The Non-Profit Form Thing) and extrapolated that to mean “They Wouldn’t Have the Money to Pay You” etc		**Mentioned some form, 501c i think? (The Non-Profit Form Thing) and extrapolated that to mean “They Wouldn’t Have the Money to Pay You” etc

Eric: Moved the Page's Content to a Title Typo Free Page

2025-10-27T00:50:57Z

Moved the Page's Content to a Title Typo Free Page

New page

=Basics=
*This page is largely going to be a rant/op ed (ALBEIT with plans, not just bringing up problems with no suggested solutions!), so keep that in mind
*HOWEVER feel free to fix typos etc, or chime in, discussion/brainstorming is appreciated

=Bit by [[User: Eric]] =
==Background==
*In the process of bringing up going to the [[OSE Apprenticeship]] etc, i had to kind of explain what it was
*Granted i wasn’t prepped either, so that lack of an [[Elevator Pitch]] (being tired from work ( [[Burnout]] from my current job is kicking in BIG TIME, plus if i just came off of an intense job (lots of shoveling/wearing a tyvek in a tank etc) i don’t have physical energy either) sure didn’t help
*’’’Either Way’’’
**As of what i gathered from their input…they see me working at ose as about as logical of a decision as [[Running Off to Join the Circus]]…not great

==Points Brough Up==
*Past Issues (They didn’t say where they read it, but sounded like some people having bad experiences (I’m guessing in the early days where there wasn’t much [[FeF Infrastructure]]
*Current Money (or Lack Thereof)
**Mentioned some form, 501c i think? (The Non-Profit Form Thing) and extrapolated that to mean “They Wouldn’t Have the Money to Pay You” etc

===Potential Counterpoints===
*Editorializing here, but i think much of the “Past Issues” problem is just due to their not being much information coming out of the Events/FeF as a whole (CAD Files and amazing projects notwithstanding)
**While i do think [[EPCOTification]] / Focusing so much kn updates/filming that an otherwise great project gets turned into Trash Reality TV are VALID concerns, i think also that PR transforms into bot Funds and Legitimacy/ [[Social Currency]]
*The Point of Money is a ‘’bit’’ more concerning
**First things first i can catch up on reading up on that myself
**Secondly there is a case to be made for [[Build it and They Will Come]] to be considered
***GRANTED charlatans using the whole “oh it’s like buying stock in apple before they were big, THEY Started in a garage too” (which i think was a bit of a fake story in of itself) is a common theme in today’s world so some proper data needs to be gathered to support that argument, but at least as a working adult who has seen: Education (by being in it as a student/apprentice), Construction, Environmental Services, and Industrial Work etc…there ABSOLUTELY IS POTENTIAL for improvement/overhaul. Revolutionary even, but it all is a matter of funds and [[Herding Cats]]
***Looking into [[Business Loans]] , another [[Crowdsourcing]] Round/Project, or even just more PR and thus more [[Patreon]] / [[Real Fans]] (or whatever the name was) donations is another option
***Looking into hard data on profit per project and on-contract or potential planned projects is another aspect of this

=Internal Links=
*[[Accreditation]] an Institutional form of Legitimacy

=External Links=
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