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	Lex Berezhny 8:39 PM		Lex Berezhny 8:39 PM
	Marcin: I just realized that with the current layout of the rotors you're still getting more than 44"		Marcin: I just realized that with the current layout of the rotors you're still getting more than 44"
	For example, if you look at Page 11		For example, if you look at Page 11<br/>
	me 8:40 PM		me 8:40 PM
	I'm looking at it. Which dimension do you dispute?		I'm looking at it. Which dimension do you dispute?<br/>
	Lex Berezhny 8:40 PM		Lex Berezhny 8:40 PM
	44"		44"
	because the rotor is 44"		because the rotor is 44"
	but you can see it doesn't go all the way to the edge		but you can see it doesn't go all the way to the edge<br/>
	me 8:40 PM		me 8:40 PM
	20" for platform, 2 tracks at 10" width each, and spac of 2" each.		20" for platform, 2 tracks at 10" width each, and spac of 2" each.<br/>
	Lex Berezhny 8:40 PM		Lex Berezhny 8:40 PM
	so, you've got like another 6" i think		so, you've got like another 6" i think
	me 8:41 PM		me 8:41 PM
	My numbers add to 20+4+20.		My numbers add to 20+4+20.<br/>
	Lex Berezhny 8:41 PM		Lex Berezhny 8:41 PM
	isn't the rotor 44" long though?		isn't the rotor 44" long though?<br/>
	me 8:41 PM		me 8:41 PM
	No?		No?
	Rotor critical dimension is 22" from front plate to back plate.		Rotor critical dimension is 22" from front plate to back plate.<br/>
	Lex Berezhny joined group chat.		Lex Berezhny joined group chat.<br/>
	me 8:42 PM		me 8:42 PM
	Motor is on back plate, adding 8" more.		Motor is on back plate, adding 8" more.<br/>
	Lex Berezhny 8:42 PM		Lex Berezhny 8:42 PM
	Oh, so the shaft can be shortened?		Oh, so the shaft can be shortened?
	I thought the shaft length was also not changeable?		I thought the shaft length was also not changeable?<br/>
	me 8:43 PM		me 8:43 PM
	Then you have front shaft. Accounting for front shaft - 12" so it doesn't stick out beyond the tarck		Then you have front shaft. Accounting for front shaft - 12" so it doesn't stick out beyond the tarck
	track		track
	We can cut it if we want to whatever we need. 12 is plenty for track mounting.		We can cut it if we want to whatever we need. 12 is plenty for track mounting.<br/>
	Lex Berezhny 8:43 PM		Lex Berezhny 8:43 PM
	the on in sketchup is 28"		the on in sketchup is 28"<br/>
	me 8:43 PM		me 8:43 PM
	Sorry.		Sorry.<br/>
	Lex Berezhny 8:43 PM		Lex Berezhny 8:43 PM
	ah, okay		ah, okay
	hmmm, that changes things		hmmm, that changes things
	okay		okay<br/>
	me 8:44 PM		me 8:44 PM
	There are many inconsistencies, just saw some bad files on Lucas Log.		There are many inconsistencies, just saw some bad files on Lucas Log.
	We need to clean things up.		We need to clean things up.<br/>

	Lex Berezhny 6:14 PM Marcin: Does the length matter? Maybe if the platform is longer the powercube could be placed directly on platform without interfering with tracks? I assume the width is importan to fit through standard openings? But length could be longer, right? It's that dang Universal Rotor, it's just so huge for a "micro" tractor :-D me 6:16 PM To within practical limits of maneuverability. The longer they are, the more radial stress on axles upon turning. Our general design principle is not longer than wide. Toro is 70". http://www.toro.com/professional/sws/brochure/Track_specs.pdf Remember that we are using gutterpunk bearing systems - common 4-bolt flange bearings not designed for axial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:16 PM okay, i'll keep that in mind, i'll try to modify the sketch, unfortunately i accidentally deleted the one i did yesterday, but that's okay, i'll try to make a new, better, one me 6:17 PM Otherwise, price goes way up. That's why we are doing articulated design - to allow huge machines with minimal axial thrust. sorry, radial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:17 PM And there is no way to reduce the size of the rotor, right? me 6:17 PM Articulation for larger machines. No. Lex Berezhny 6:18 PM okay I'll think about it and try to come up with a new design and post it, I'll make sure to upload the sketch to wharehouse this time me 6:18 PM Basically, the above allows 10-100 cost reduction over industry standard Cat D7 bulldozer. Uplaod the old one too. Lex Berezhny 6:19 PM I accidentally deleted it. If i can't come up with a new/better design I'll recreate the one I did yesterday and upload that. me 6:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154027343551562/?type=1&theater Lex Berezhny 6:20 PM cool		Lex Berezhny 6:14 PM Marcin: Does the length matter? Maybe if the platform is longer the powercube could be placed directly on platform without interfering with tracks? I assume the width is importan to fit through standard openings? But length could be longer, right? It's that dang Universal Rotor, it's just so huge for a "micro" tractor :-D <br/>me 6:16 PM To within practical limits of maneuverability. The longer they are, the more radial stress on axles upon turning. Our general design principle is not longer than wide. Toro is 70". http://www.toro.com/professional/sws/brochure/Track_specs.pdf Remember that we are using gutterpunk bearing systems - common 4-bolt flange bearings not designed for axial thrust.<br/> Lex Berezhny 6:16 PM okay, i'll keep that in mind, i'll try to modify the sketch, unfortunately i accidentally deleted the one i did yesterday, but that's okay, i'll try to make a new, better, one <br/>me 6:17 PM Otherwise, price goes way up. That's why we are doing articulated design - to allow huge machines with minimal axial thrust. sorry, radial thrust. <br/>Lex Berezhny 6:17 PM And there is no way to reduce the size of the rotor, right?<br/> me 6:17 PM Articulation for larger machines. No.<br/> Lex Berezhny 6:18 PM okay I'll think about it and try to come up with a new design and post it, I'll make sure to upload the sketch to wharehouse this time <br/>me 6:18 PM Basically, the above allows 10-100 cost reduction over industry standard Cat D7 bulldozer. Uplaod the old one too. <br/>Lex Berezhny 6:19 PM I accidentally deleted it. If i can't come up with a new/better design I'll recreate the one I did yesterday and upload that. <br/>me 6:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154027343551562/?type=1&theater <br/>Lex Berezhny 6:20 PM cool

Marcin at 01:44, 2 July 2015

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			Lex Berezhny 8:39 PM
			Marcin: I just realized that with the current layout of the rotors you're still getting more than 44"
			For example, if you look at Page 11
			me 8:40 PM
			I'm looking at it. Which dimension do you dispute?
			Lex Berezhny 8:40 PM
			44"
			because the rotor is 44"
			but you can see it doesn't go all the way to the edge
			me 8:40 PM
			20" for platform, 2 tracks at 10" width each, and spac of 2" each.
			Lex Berezhny 8:40 PM
			so, you've got like another 6" i think
			me 8:41 PM
			My numbers add to 20+4+20.
			Lex Berezhny 8:41 PM
			isn't the rotor 44" long though?
			me 8:41 PM
			No?
			Rotor critical dimension is 22" from front plate to back plate.
			Lex Berezhny joined group chat.
			me 8:42 PM
			Motor is on back plate, adding 8" more.
			Lex Berezhny 8:42 PM
			Oh, so the shaft can be shortened?
			I thought the shaft length was also not changeable?
			me 8:43 PM
			Then you have front shaft. Accounting for front shaft - 12" so it doesn't stick out beyond the tarck
			track
			We can cut it if we want to whatever we need. 12 is plenty for track mounting.
			Lex Berezhny 8:43 PM
			the on in sketchup is 28"
			me 8:43 PM
			Sorry.
			Lex Berezhny 8:43 PM
			ah, okay
			hmmm, that changes things
			okay
			me 8:44 PM
			There are many inconsistencies, just saw some bad files on Lucas Log.
			We need to clean things up.

	Lex Berezhny 6:14 PM Marcin: Does the length matter? Maybe if the platform is longer the powercube could be placed directly on platform without interfering with tracks? I assume the width is importan to fit through standard openings? But length could be longer, right? It's that dang Universal Rotor, it's just so huge for a "micro" tractor :-D me 6:16 PM To within practical limits of maneuverability. The longer they are, the more radial stress on axles upon turning. Our general design principle is not longer than wide. Toro is 70". http://www.toro.com/professional/sws/brochure/Track_specs.pdf Remember that we are using gutterpunk bearing systems - common 4-bolt flange bearings not designed for axial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:16 PM okay, i'll keep that in mind, i'll try to modify the sketch, unfortunately i accidentally deleted the one i did yesterday, but that's okay, i'll try to make a new, better, one me 6:17 PM Otherwise, price goes way up. That's why we are doing articulated design - to allow huge machines with minimal axial thrust. sorry, radial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:17 PM And there is no way to reduce the size of the rotor, right? me 6:17 PM Articulation for larger machines. No. Lex Berezhny 6:18 PM okay I'll think about it and try to come up with a new design and post it, I'll make sure to upload the sketch to wharehouse this time me 6:18 PM Basically, the above allows 10-100 cost reduction over industry standard Cat D7 bulldozer. Uplaod the old one too. Lex Berezhny 6:19 PM I accidentally deleted it. If i can't come up with a new/better design I'll recreate the one I did yesterday and upload that. me 6:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154027343551562/?type=1&theater Lex Berezhny 6:20 PM cool		Lex Berezhny 6:14 PM Marcin: Does the length matter? Maybe if the platform is longer the powercube could be placed directly on platform without interfering with tracks? I assume the width is importan to fit through standard openings? But length could be longer, right? It's that dang Universal Rotor, it's just so huge for a "micro" tractor :-D me 6:16 PM To within practical limits of maneuverability. The longer they are, the more radial stress on axles upon turning. Our general design principle is not longer than wide. Toro is 70". http://www.toro.com/professional/sws/brochure/Track_specs.pdf Remember that we are using gutterpunk bearing systems - common 4-bolt flange bearings not designed for axial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:16 PM okay, i'll keep that in mind, i'll try to modify the sketch, unfortunately i accidentally deleted the one i did yesterday, but that's okay, i'll try to make a new, better, one me 6:17 PM Otherwise, price goes way up. That's why we are doing articulated design - to allow huge machines with minimal axial thrust. sorry, radial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:17 PM And there is no way to reduce the size of the rotor, right? me 6:17 PM Articulation for larger machines. No. Lex Berezhny 6:18 PM okay I'll think about it and try to come up with a new design and post it, I'll make sure to upload the sketch to wharehouse this time me 6:18 PM Basically, the above allows 10-100 cost reduction over industry standard Cat D7 bulldozer. Uplaod the old one too. Lex Berezhny 6:19 PM I accidentally deleted it. If i can't come up with a new/better design I'll recreate the one I did yesterday and upload that. me 6:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154027343551562/?type=1&theater Lex Berezhny 6:20 PM cool

Marcin at 23:24, 1 July 2015

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	Lex Berezhny 6:14 PM Marcin: Does the length matter? Maybe if the platform is longer the powercube could be placed directly on platform without interfering with tracks? I assume the width is importan to fit through standard openings? But length could be longer, right? It's that dang Universal Rotor, it's just so huge for a "micro" tractor :-D me 6:16 PM To within practical limits of maneuverability. The longer they are, the more radial stress on axles upon turning. Our general design principle is not longer than wide. Toro is 70". http://www.toro.com/professional/sws/brochure/Track_specs.pdf Remember that we are using gutterpunk bearing systems - common 4-bolt flange bearings not designed for axial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:16 PM okay, i'll keep that in mind, i'll try to modify the sketch, unfortunately i accidentally deleted the one i did yesterday, but that's okay, i'll try to make a new, better, one me 6:17 PM Otherwise, price goes way up. That's why we are doing articulated design - to allow huge machines with minimal axial thrust. sorry, radial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:17 PM And there is no way to reduce the size of the rotor, right? me 6:17 PM Articulation for larger machines. No. Lex Berezhny 6:18 PM okay I'll think about it and try to come up with a new design and post it, I'll make sure to upload the sketch to wharehouse this time me 6:18 PM Basically, the above allows 10-100 cost reduction over industry standard Cat D7 bulldozer. Uplaod the old one too. Lex Berezhny 6:19 PM I accidentally deleted it. If i can't come up with a new/better design I'll recreate the one I did yesterday and upload that. me 6:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154027343551562/?type=1&theater Lex Berezhny 6:20 PM cool		Lex Berezhny 6:14 PM Marcin: Does the length matter? Maybe if the platform is longer the powercube could be placed directly on platform without interfering with tracks? I assume the width is importan to fit through standard openings? But length could be longer, right? It's that dang Universal Rotor, it's just so huge for a "micro" tractor :-D me 6:16 PM To within practical limits of maneuverability. The longer they are, the more radial stress on axles upon turning. Our general design principle is not longer than wide. Toro is 70". http://www.toro.com/professional/sws/brochure/Track_specs.pdf Remember that we are using gutterpunk bearing systems - common 4-bolt flange bearings not designed for axial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:16 PM okay, i'll keep that in mind, i'll try to modify the sketch, unfortunately i accidentally deleted the one i did yesterday, but that's okay, i'll try to make a new, better, one me 6:17 PM Otherwise, price goes way up. That's why we are doing articulated design - to allow huge machines with minimal axial thrust. sorry, radial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:17 PM And there is no way to reduce the size of the rotor, right? me 6:17 PM Articulation for larger machines. No. Lex Berezhny 6:18 PM okay I'll think about it and try to come up with a new design and post it, I'll make sure to upload the sketch to wharehouse this time me 6:18 PM Basically, the above allows 10-100 cost reduction over industry standard Cat D7 bulldozer. Uplaod the old one too. Lex Berezhny 6:19 PM I accidentally deleted it. If i can't come up with a new/better design I'll recreate the one I did yesterday and upload that. me 6:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154027343551562/?type=1&theater Lex Berezhny 6:20 PM cool

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Lex Berezhny 6:14 PM Marcin: Does the length matter? Maybe if the platform is longer the powercube could be placed directly on platform without interfering with tracks? I assume the width is importan to fit through standard openings? But length could be longer, right? It's that dang Universal Rotor, it's just so huge for a "micro" tractor :-D me 6:16 PM To within practical limits of maneuverability. The longer they are, the more radial stress on axles upon turning. Our general design principle is not longer than wide. Toro is 70". http://www.toro.com/professional/sws/brochure/Track_specs.pdf Remember that we are using gutterpunk bearing systems - common 4-bolt flange bearings not designed for axial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:16 PM okay, i'll keep that in mind, i'll try to modify the sketch, unfortunately i accidentally deleted the one i did yesterday, but that's okay, i'll try to make a new, better, one me 6:17 PM Otherwise, price goes way up. That's why we are doing articulated design - to allow huge machines with minimal axial thrust. sorry, radial thrust. Lex Berezhny 6:17 PM And there is no way to reduce the size of the rotor, right? me 6:17 PM Articulation for larger machines. No. Lex Berezhny 6:18 PM okay I'll think about it and try to come up with a new design and post it, I'll make sure to upload the sketch to wharehouse this time me 6:18 PM Basically, the above allows 10-100 cost reduction over industry standard Cat D7 bulldozer. Uplaod the old one too. Lex Berezhny 6:19 PM I accidentally deleted it. If i can't come up with a new/better design I'll recreate the one I did yesterday and upload that. me 6:19 PM https://www.facebook.com/OpenSourceEcology/photos/a.10151381815921562.574965.66469461561/10154027343551562/?type=1&theater Lex Berezhny 6:20 PM cool