Minitank Water Heater - Revision history

Marcin: /* Email to Bosch Customer Support */

2022-08-27T03:53:21Z

Email to Bosch Customer Support

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	==Email to Bosch Customer Support==		==Email to Bosch Customer Support==

	I have the Tronic 3000T ES-8 minitank heater. It says it uses 1440W at 120V in the specifications (https://www.bosch-thermotechnology.us/us/media/country_pool/documents/downloads-for-bosch-products/point-of-use-mini-tanks-manuals/6720801072_tronic3000t_es2.5-4-8_iom_en_sp_07.2022-2.pdf) but the installation calls for 12 ga/ 20A breaker. According to the NEC 80% rule, the power specification should be met with 14 ga wire and a 15A breaker, given that 125% of 12A is exactly 15A. Is there a reason that you are specifying an upsize breaker? You mention specifically in the installation that your breaker size is 'according to the NEC' - but according to the NEC 125% rule, this should really be 15A, not 20A.		I have the Tronic 3000T ES-8 minitank heater. It says it uses 1440W at 120V in the specifications (https://www.bosch-thermotechnology.us/us/media/country_pool/documents/downloads-for-bosch-products/point-of-use-mini-tanks-manuals/6720801072_tronic3000t_es2.5-4-8_iom_en_sp_07.2022-2.pdf) but the installation calls for 12 ga/ 20A breaker. According to the NEC 80% rule, the power specification should be met with 14 ga wire and a 15A breaker, given that 125% of 12A is exactly 15A. Is there a reason that you are specifying an upsize breaker? You mention specifically in the installation that your breaker size is 'according to the NEC' - but according to the NEC 125% rule, this should really be 15A, not 20A, biach.

	=Links=		=Links=

	*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]		*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]

Marcin: /* Bosch */

2022-08-27T03:52:48Z

Bosch

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	*Bosch 4 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148O65IE/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=ah8MsDGJ7FQS3viSfAYxpA&hsa_cr_id=8773616670101&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=40aa4f29-1e49-41c7-8198-b5f6765a41ca&pd_rd_w=cjktj&pd_rd_wg=qXdDd&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_1_title]		*Bosch 4 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148O65IE/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=ah8MsDGJ7FQS3viSfAYxpA&hsa_cr_id=8773616670101&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=40aa4f29-1e49-41c7-8198-b5f6765a41ca&pd_rd_w=cjktj&pd_rd_wg=qXdDd&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_1_title]
	*{{check}}Bosch 7 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Mini-Tank-Tronic-3000-ES8/dp/B0148O64JE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bosch+electric+mini-tank+water+heater+tronic+3000+t+7-gallon&qid=1614803911&s=hi&sr=1-1]. Manual - [https://www.bosch-thermotechnology.us/us/en/residential/service/documents-media/downloads-for-bosch-products/manuals/point-of-use-mini-tanks-manuals/]		*{{check}}Bosch 7 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Mini-Tank-Tronic-3000-ES8/dp/B0148O64JE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bosch+electric+mini-tank+water+heater+tronic+3000+t+7-gallon&qid=1614803911&s=hi&sr=1-1]. Manual - [https://www.bosch-thermotechnology.us/us/en/residential/service/documents-media/downloads-for-bosch-products/manuals/point-of-use-mini-tanks-manuals/]

			==Email to Bosch Customer Support==

			I have the Tronic 3000T ES-8 minitank heater. It says it uses 1440W at 120V in the specifications (https://www.bosch-thermotechnology.us/us/media/country_pool/documents/downloads-for-bosch-products/point-of-use-mini-tanks-manuals/6720801072_tronic3000t_es2.5-4-8_iom_en_sp_07.2022-2.pdf) but the installation calls for 12 ga/ 20A breaker. According to the NEC 80% rule, the power specification should be met with 14 ga wire and a 15A breaker, given that 125% of 12A is exactly 15A. Is there a reason that you are specifying an upsize breaker? You mention specifically in the installation that your breaker size is 'according to the NEC' - but according to the NEC 125% rule, this should really be 15A, not 20A.

	=Links=		=Links=

	*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]		*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]

Marcin: Marcin moved page Mintank Water Heater to Minitank Water Heater

2022-06-20T22:40:50Z

Marcin moved page Mintank Water Heater to Minitank Water Heater

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Marcin: /* Bosch */

2022-05-16T13:29:03Z

Bosch

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	*Bosch 2.5 gal - $157 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Electric-Mini-Tank-Heater-2-5-Gallon/dp/B0148O658Y/ref=psdc_3754791_t1_B079NT5HQD]		*Bosch 2.5 gal - $157 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Electric-Mini-Tank-Heater-2-5-Gallon/dp/B0148O658Y/ref=psdc_3754791_t1_B079NT5HQD]
	*Bosch 4 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148O65IE/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=ah8MsDGJ7FQS3viSfAYxpA&hsa_cr_id=8773616670101&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=40aa4f29-1e49-41c7-8198-b5f6765a41ca&pd_rd_w=cjktj&pd_rd_wg=qXdDd&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_1_title]		*Bosch 4 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148O65IE/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=ah8MsDGJ7FQS3viSfAYxpA&hsa_cr_id=8773616670101&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=40aa4f29-1e49-41c7-8198-b5f6765a41ca&pd_rd_w=cjktj&pd_rd_wg=qXdDd&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_1_title]
	*{{check}}Bosch 7 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Mini-Tank-Tronic-3000-ES8/dp/B0148O64JE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bosch+electric+mini-tank+water+heater+tronic+3000+t+7-gallon&qid=1614803911&s=hi&sr=1-1]		*{{check}}Bosch 7 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Mini-Tank-Tronic-3000-ES8/dp/B0148O64JE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bosch+electric+mini-tank+water+heater+tronic+3000+t+7-gallon&qid=1614803911&s=hi&sr=1-1]. Manual - [https://www.bosch-thermotechnology.us/us/en/residential/service/documents-media/downloads-for-bosch-products/manuals/point-of-use-mini-tanks-manuals/]

	=Links=		=Links=

	*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]		*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]

Brad: fixed typo

2022-01-03T13:20:39Z

fixed typo

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	=About=		=About=
	Instead of heating a large quantity of water, a minitank heater heats a small amount. Thus, it is capable of higher efficiency (less heating loss) compared to a full tank water heater. Its advantage for off-grid use (assuming limited electrical power) lies in using a small heater element - ~~unline~~ tankless heaters (on-demand heaters) - which require much more power (4-8kW) compared to minitank (1-2 kW). Disadvantage is that you run out of hot water if you use up more than the tank - say a long shower.		Instead of heating a large quantity of water, a minitank heater heats a small amount. Thus, it is capable of higher efficiency (less heating loss) compared to a full tank water heater. Its advantage for off-grid use (assuming limited electrical power) lies in using a small heater element - unlike tankless heaters (on-demand heaters) - which require much more power (4-8kW) compared to minitank (1-2 kW). Disadvantage is that you run out of hot water if you use up more than the tank - say a long shower.

	From a critical perspective - it is about 1.5 kW - worst of 2 worlds - don't have enough continuous hot water, and waste energy. You can tell by their larger size than true tankless.		From a critical perspective - it is about 1.5 kW - worst of 2 worlds - don't have enough continuous hot water, and waste energy. You can tell by their larger size than true tankless.

Marcin: /* Bosch */

2022-01-01T00:28:40Z

Bosch

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	=Bosch=		=Bosch=
			*Bosch 2.5 gal - $157 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Electric-Mini-Tank-Heater-2-5-Gallon/dp/B0148O658Y/ref=psdc_3754791_t1_B079NT5HQD]
			*Bosch 4 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0148O65IE/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?_encoding=UTF8&aaxitk=ah8MsDGJ7FQS3viSfAYxpA&hsa_cr_id=8773616670101&pd_rd_plhdr=t&pd_rd_r=40aa4f29-1e49-41c7-8198-b5f6765a41ca&pd_rd_w=cjktj&pd_rd_wg=qXdDd&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_mcd_asin_1_title]
			*{{check}}Bosch 7 gal - $209 - [https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Mini-Tank-Tronic-3000-ES8/dp/B0148O64JE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=bosch+electric+mini-tank+water+heater+tronic+3000+t+7-gallon&qid=1614803911&s=hi&sr=1-1]

	=Links=		=Links=

	*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]		*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]

Marcin at 00:27, 1 January 2022

2022-01-01T00:27:43Z

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	=About=		=About=
	Instead of heating a large quantity of water, a minitank heater heats a small amount. Thus, it is capable of higher efficiency (less heating loss) compared to a full tank water heater. Its advantage for off-grid use lies in using a small heater element - unline tankless heaters (on-demand heaters) - which require much more power (4-8kW) compared to minitank (1-2 kW)		Instead of heating a large quantity of water, a minitank heater heats a small amount. Thus, it is capable of higher efficiency (less heating loss) compared to a full tank water heater. Its advantage for off-grid use (assuming limited electrical power) lies in using a small heater element - unline tankless heaters (on-demand heaters) - which require much more power (4-8kW) compared to minitank (1-2 kW). Disadvantage is that you run out of hot water if you use up more than the tank - say a long shower.

			From a critical perspective - it is about 1.5 kW - worst of 2 worlds - don't have enough continuous hot water, and waste energy. You can tell by their larger size than true tankless.

	=Bosch=		=Bosch=

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2022-01-01T00:25:42Z

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=About=
Instead of heating a large quantity of water, a minitank heater heats a small amount. Thus, it is capable of higher efficiency (less heating loss) compared to a full tank water heater. Its advantage for off-grid use lies in using a small heater element - unline tankless heaters (on-demand heaters) - which require much more power (4-8kW) compared to minitank (1-2 kW)

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=Links=

*[[Tankless Electric Water Heater]]