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		<title>DavidIAm: Created page with &quot;=Design feedback from a Production/Floor designer=  Outline extracted from a conversation between David Ihnen (design proposer) and David Dalton of Kansas City, a professional pr...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;=Design feedback from a Production/Floor designer=  Outline extracted from a conversation between David Ihnen (design proposer) and David Dalton of Kansas City, a professional pr...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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Outline extracted from a conversation between David Ihnen (design proposer) and David Dalton of Kansas City, a professional production floor layout contact.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Shop Design:&lt;br /&gt;
** likes the roof angles&lt;br /&gt;
** Chlerestory brings lots of light in, that is good&lt;br /&gt;
** Gantry is good&lt;br /&gt;
*Biggest problem: Headspace.&lt;br /&gt;
**low cieling feels claustrophobic, is not so nice to work in.&lt;br /&gt;
**extra cieling space can be used to hang racks and store materials&lt;br /&gt;
**too little overhead space and you can&amp;#039;t do anything about it&lt;br /&gt;
**Gantry system needs space for hoist - it would lucky to be able to lift a lifetrac off the ground at its current height of 9 feet at top.&lt;br /&gt;
*Storage space&lt;br /&gt;
*A nearby building - suggest the gantry extends to a shed to the north, where production materials will be stored.  Gantry allows easy retrieval without ground level improvements (concrete).&lt;br /&gt;
*Compressed Air.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Compressed air is critically important for cleanup, blowing bits out of crevasses better than about anything.&lt;br /&gt;
**Compressed air tools are bulletproof - electric ones wear out quickly,compressed air tools do not.&lt;br /&gt;
**Compressed air tools are powerful and buffered - no matter how slowly compression is generated, maximal power is available at the moment it is needed.&lt;br /&gt;
**Compressed air does not require electricity - either directly off of wind power (good idea!) or steam, or gas engine, or lister - whatever.&lt;br /&gt;
**Take the time to distribute your compressed air around the shop&lt;br /&gt;
**keep your requirement for flexi-hoses short, 4 inner columns good location for them&lt;br /&gt;
*Gantry.&lt;br /&gt;
**Excellent materials handling solution&lt;br /&gt;
**makes moving heavy things, lifting them up, etc far easier - when dealing with heavy things, that hoist can make a world of difference.&lt;br /&gt;
**Transport from storage to production floor is easy and smooth&lt;br /&gt;
*Tiger Stop&lt;br /&gt;
**All About Tigerstops: [[http://www.tigerstop.com/Products/TigerStop.aspx]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Example used model on ebay [[http://cgi.ebay.com/Upcut-Saw-Tiger-Stop-CNC-fence-w-16ft-travel-/270718798179]] - sold for $4500&lt;br /&gt;
**Any sort of production needs a length-measuring table with adustable stops for efficiency&lt;br /&gt;
**tiger stop style table will accelerate production massively - 30-40% easily.&lt;br /&gt;
**fully automatic tiger stop style table will accelerate parts cutting even more&lt;br /&gt;
**is a single-axis cnc - not difficult to arduino and construct ourselves!&lt;br /&gt;
**consider a double ended table, one end bandsaw, one end mitre saw&lt;br /&gt;
**HIGH USE TOOL - as the most frequently useful tools in the shop, it should be centrally located&lt;br /&gt;
**Can also be equipped with a drill press for automating positioning of materials to be drilled!&lt;br /&gt;
*The Robots.&lt;br /&gt;
**Put robots in range of equipment&lt;br /&gt;
**consider flexibility - hard-mounted robot gets in the way when not being used&lt;br /&gt;
**robots are useful only when actively programmed.&lt;br /&gt;
**board mill-&amp;gt;robot-&amp;gt;rack-&amp;gt;robot-&amp;gt;cnc-&amp;gt;robot-&amp;gt;rack workflow could automatically create wooden parts&lt;br /&gt;
**robot combined with tiger stop type table could automate much workflow of creating metal parts too&lt;br /&gt;
*Table Saw&lt;br /&gt;
**You ABSOLUTELY DO want a table saw if you&amp;#039;re doing wood fabrication &lt;br /&gt;
**a large one - or don&amp;#039;t bother&lt;br /&gt;
**can double as workbench with blade retracted&lt;br /&gt;
*Dust Collection&lt;br /&gt;
**Install a dust collection system if you&amp;#039;re going to be routing and/or cutting much wood. Recycle the chips for fuel, and the fine sawdust is even more useful.&lt;br /&gt;
**use a two stage filtration chamber to separate - easy to build&lt;br /&gt;
*Curtains&lt;br /&gt;
**Put BLACK curtains around the welding areas.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Welding flash causes eye damage, even indirectly&lt;br /&gt;
**Welding exposure is bright UV, impacts more than merely the eyes of those around, radiation burns too.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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