OSE Tipping Points - Revision history

Eric: Removed some stuff

2021-04-28T23:58:12Z

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	[[Category: Organization]] ?		[[Category: Organization]]

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Eric: Fixed some typos

2021-04-28T23:57:26Z

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	==On the ethics of advertising==		==On the ethics of advertising==
	* [[User:Eric]] 's Rant (here is the whole i don't speak for ~~ose disclamer~~)		* [[User:Eric]] 's Rant (here is the whole i don't speak for OSE disclaimer)
	**Advertising is inherently manipulative		**Advertising is inherently manipulative
	**Also tracking of data etc can be unethical and today often is		**Also tracking of data etc can be unethical and today often is
	** '''HOWEVER''' there is a difference between ethics and real world strategy		** '''HOWEVER''' there is a difference between ethics and real world strategy
	**~~Untill~~ we reach the tipping point we may need semi-unethical advertising		**Until we reach the tipping point we may need semi-unethical advertising
	**In order to prevent this from turning into a "oh we'll change eventually, EVENTUALLY" mess i hope this page can help us add hard "shift points" based on our people base		**In order to prevent this from turning into a "oh we'll change eventually, EVENTUALLY" mess i hope this page can help us add hard "shift points" based on our people base
	**Once we reach the "tipping point" of exposure, advertising etc is essentially not needed (does a certain cola brand, or social media xyz need to advertise? No, they are universally known (~~outide~~ of [[Mastodon (Social Media Platform) ]] , it needs love...) and thus it would be a waste of time and funds etc		**Once we reach the "tipping point" of exposure, advertising etc is essentially not needed (does a certain cola brand, or social media xyz need to advertise? No, they are universally known (outside of [[Mastodon (Social Media Platform) ]] , it needs love...) and thus it would be a waste of time and funds etc
	**I personally am a low level privacy enthusiast, but not very hard line about it, mainly net neutrality and full on social credit systems are my no-goes etc (rant for another place and time...) so i am personally fine, we perhaps have some sort of forum to discuss this if a ~~controversey~~ occurs (as "we all?" seem fine? i can't speak for everyone ~~obiously~~ but out of the people in the video and me we are ok? may be some other developers, need to see		**I personally am a low level privacy enthusiast, but not very hard line about it, mainly net neutrality and full on social credit systems are my no-goes etc (rant for another place and time...) so i am personally fine, we perhaps have some sort of forum to discuss this if a controversy occurs (as "we all?" seem fine? i can't speak for everyone obviously but out of the people in the video and me we are ok? may be some other developers, need to see

	==PR Tipping Points==		==PR Tipping Points==
	===Less than 1,000 Highly ~~Intrested~~ People/Developers===		===Less than 1,000 Highly Interested People/Developers===
	* '''Serious''' need to advertise + network		* '''Serious''' need to advertise + network

	===1,000-5,000===		===1,000-5,000===
	*Sort of a transition area away from advertising more ~~twards~~ brand shaping/video editing/other "nice to haves" that make us more appealing to non-enthusiasts (ie the PrEttY graphic design, non-technical explanations, products that "just work" so non early adopters use them etc		*Sort of a transition area away from advertising more towards brand shaping/video editing/other "nice to haves" that make us more appealing to non-enthusiasts (ie the PrEttY graphic design, non-technical explanations, products that "just work" so non early adopters use them etc

	===5,000+===		===5,000+===
	*I, [[User:Eric]] am '''DEFINETLY NOT''' some pr/business expert/major so I can't say but i'm guessing around here is when we need some full on planning team/ low level ~~beuracracy~~ (for things like larger ~~buget~~/people emailing etc that needs to be answered yet is more that 1-5 people can handle, etc)		*I, [[User:Eric]] am '''DEFINETLY NOT''' some pr/business expert/major so I can't say but i'm guessing around here is when we need some full on planning team/ low level bureaucracy (for things like larger budgeting/people emailing etc that needs to be answered yet is more that 1-5 people can handle, etc)
	*Also by then we may need at least 1-3 people doing some intense filming/editing/mixing of the sound/audio of the "big stuff" (builds etc) to seem more "professional" etc		*Also by then we may need at least 1-3 people doing some intense filming/editing/mixing of the sound/audio of the "big stuff" (builds etc) to seem more "professional" etc

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	**DDOS and other attacks		**DDOS and other attacks
	**Spam		**Spam
	**Flamewars and other needs for chat moderation		**Flamewars and other needs for chat moderation
	**Other similar issues		**Other similar issues
	*So ~1000 + seems to be when this may kick in? Any cybersecurity experts/enthusiasts around?		*So ~1000 + seems to be when this may kick in? Any cybersecurity experts/enthusiasts around?
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Eric: Added a Category to the Page

2021-04-28T23:56:10Z

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	=External Links=		=External Links=
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Eric: Added some more links under the "Internal Links" section

2021-04-28T23:55:49Z

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	=Internal Links=		=Internal Links=
	*		*[[The Tipping Point]]

	=External Links=		=External Links=
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Eric: Updated the page to the more recent formatting style

2021-04-28T23:55:37Z

Updated the page to the more recent formatting style

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	*So ~1000 + seems to be when this may kick in? Any cybersecurity experts/enthusiasts around?		*So ~1000 + seems to be when this may kick in? Any cybersecurity experts/enthusiasts around?

	=~~See Also~~=		=Internal Links=
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	=~~Useful~~ Links=		=External Links=
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Eric: Minor Text Formating Fix

2020-03-20T22:23:14Z

Minor Text Formating Fix

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	=Web/Video Design=		=Web/Video Design=
	*This one is lesser a tipping point, and more something that will help the others, but		*This one is lesser a tipping point, and more something that will help the others, but
	**Clear, main page displays of relevant info (like our countdown, but for meetings etc)		*Clear, main page displays of relevant info (like our countdown, but for meetings etc)
	*~~8We~~ are pretty good here, but can also add to it		**We are pretty good here, but can also add to it
	* '''Translators''' especially being an inherently international project, getting quality page translations and subtitles for audio/video will be VERY useful. CALLING ALL BILINGUALS etc (perhaps even ask to be a language class project/pet project at university level? need to network for this)		* '''Translators''' especially being an inherently international project, getting quality page translations and subtitles for audio/video will be VERY useful. CALLING ALL BILINGUALS etc (perhaps even ask to be a language class project/pet project at university level? need to network for this)

Eric: Created Page + Added Basic Sections/Info

2020-03-20T22:22:38Z

Created Page + Added Basic Sections/Info

New page

=Basics=
*This page aims to go over three areas where there are some major shifts in what ose needs to do, and how it structures itself
#Public Relations
#Organisation/Web Design
#Security of Site

=Public Relations=
*In our early phases (Essentially now) our main focus is advertising this comes in the forms of:
**Web/video design
**Events
**Networking (Asking for reviews of units, SME Requests, and attempts to form local chapters)
**And advertising

==On the ethics of advertising==
* [[User:Eric]] 's Rant (here is the whole i don't speak for ose disclamer)
**Advertising is inherently manipulative
**Also tracking of data etc can be unethical and today often is
** '''HOWEVER''' there is a difference between ethics and real world strategy
**Untill we reach the tipping point we may need semi-unethical advertising
**In order to prevent this from turning into a "oh we'll change eventually, EVENTUALLY" mess i hope this page can help us add hard "shift points" based on our people base
**Once we reach the "tipping point" of exposure, advertising etc is essentially not needed (does a certain cola brand, or social media xyz need to advertise? No, they are universally known (outide of [[Mastodon (Social Media Platform) ]] , it needs love...) and thus it would be a waste of time and funds etc
**I personally am a low level privacy enthusiast, but not very hard line about it, mainly net neutrality and full on social credit systems are my no-goes etc (rant for another place and time...) so i am personally fine, we perhaps have some sort of forum to discuss this if a controversey occurs (as "we all?" seem fine? i can't speak for everyone obiously but out of the people in the video and me we are ok? may be some other developers, need to see

==PR Tipping Points==
===Less than 1,000 Highly Intrested People/Developers===
* '''Serious''' need to advertise + network

===1,000-5,000===
*Sort of a transition area away from advertising more twards brand shaping/video editing/other "nice to haves" that make us more appealing to non-enthusiasts (ie the PrEttY graphic design, non-technical explanations, products that "just work" so non early adopters use them etc

===5,000+===
*I, [[User:Eric]] am '''DEFINETLY NOT''' some pr/business expert/major so I can't say but i'm guessing around here is when we need some full on planning team/ low level beuracracy (for things like larger buget/people emailing etc that needs to be answered yet is more that 1-5 people can handle, etc)
*Also by then we may need at least 1-3 people doing some intense filming/editing/mixing of the sound/audio of the "big stuff" (builds etc) to seem more "professional" etc

=Web/Video Design=
*This one is lesser a tipping point, and more something that will help the others, but
**Clear, main page displays of relevant info (like our countdown, but for meetings etc)
*8We are pretty good here, but can also add to it
* '''Translators''' especially being an inherently international project, getting quality page translations and subtitles for audio/video will be VERY useful. CALLING ALL BILINGUALS etc (perhaps even ask to be a language class project/pet project at university level? need to network for this)

=Page Security=
*We are "underground" enough that this isn't much of a problem if any as of now, but eventually we WILL face:
**DDOS and other attacks
**Spam
**Flamewars and other needs for chat moderation
**Other similar issues
*So ~1000 + seems to be when this may kick in? Any cybersecurity experts/enthusiasts around?

=See Also=
*

=Useful Links=
*