Open Source Thermo Electric Camp Hybrid Stove - Revision history

Eric: Moved the page's content to a more fitting page, and made a redirect to the other page

2021-01-28T20:31:36Z

Moved the page's content to a more fitting page, and made a redirect to the other page

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:31, 28 January 2021
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	~~=Basics=~~		#REDIRECT [[Open Source Portable Forced Induction Thermoelectric Solid Fuel Stove]]
	*TECHS for short
	*A Device Similar to the "Biolite" stoves
	*EXCEPT that it is maintainable, modular, (and perhaps better preforming (don't boast this till we can) )

	~~=Industry Standards=~~
	~~==Biolite==~~
	~~===Biolite Campstove 1 and 2===~~
	*The backpacking marketed one
	*[~~https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/campstove-2]~~

	~~===Biolite Basecamp===~~
	*Marketed for barbecues (the northern usa definition of the event with burgers etc, not the southern usa definition of a type of smoked food...), and was sold in a similar form as a smokeless stove, and low level energy source for underdeveloped areas
	*[~~https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/basecamp-pizzadome-bundle]~~

	~~===Biolite FirePit===~~
	*Uses the fan to make a smokeless fire pit
	*DOES NOT have a teg module, and is thus battery powered

	~~=Existing~~ Open Source ~~Design=~~
	*Various teg desings (these tend to be of the lesser quality DIY/LIFEHACK type spam etc)

	~~=Minimum Viable Product=~~
	*3 Models:
	**Soup can/standard biolite design size
	**Rocket Stove Size
	**Log Sized (~3 logs perhaps?)
	*ALL MODELS have the TEG (the log sized biolite one DOES NOT, may be an advantage
	*Perhaps devise method of removing ash better?
	*Power Unit is modular, so betteries dieing do not "brick" the unit
	*Fan mode adjustable from off to power generating minimum, to max heat/burn (perhaps even Solid Fuel ~~Wok level, may be another good market (food enthusiasts) )~~
	*Arduino nano perhaps (as simple control as possible)
	*As many TEGs as possible to maximise the electricity generated
	*Perhaps use the air inlet/fan as an air heatsink (at least partially) for the TEGs to preheat air, and cool the "cold side"
	*Optional ceramic hearth (either ots or even printed with the [[d3d ceramic printer]] (Shatter risk, but increased heat retention and tolerance
	*Uses the [[OSE Modular Battery]]
	*Either a usb, or a car style barrel jack for DC output
	*User buildable, and maintainable
	*Ruggedized (won't rust, can handle some water (can't be submerged, but splashes and rain) , shock protection (may rule out ceramic, but if it's modular...) ) for backpackers etc to be able to ACTUALLY use it
	*The modularity may lend itself to backpacking etc too due to being able to "spread out" the weight amongst packs (and not bring what you don't need)

	~~=Basic Design=~~
	~~==Frame==~~
	*Welded stainless steel? Strong Plastic?

	~~==Hearth==~~
	*Either some sort of metal (most likely stainless steel), or ceramic (would lining with high temp mortar/cement work?)

	~~==Fan Module==~~
	*Small, yet powerful bldc motor?
	*Needs to have high efficieny low speed capability, and relitivly high flow modes
	*CAN drone motors etc do low speed (especially efficiently?)

	~~==Control Module==~~
	*Arduino nano, or a some other VERY small board of some sort
	*WIFI and all that is not needed, and would just take up space and power
	*Thermal Probe for hearth, air intake, and both sides of the TEGs (and perhaps ambient?)

	~~==Battery Module==~~
	*Not really needed, but some may want an integrated battery instead of an external one
	*Make it a clip on module that goes over the power output?
	*A simple supercapacitor, or nothing would work for most use cases (smooth out the variation, especially if a cheap power unit is used, yet not add mass/space

	~~==IO==~~
	*Indicator LEDs
	*On/off switch
	*Dial for modes?

	~~=BOM=~~
	~~==TEGs==~~
	*Which is best for high heat combustion and air cooling?
	* '''Needs more research'''

	~~=CAD=~~
	*

	~~=Code=~~
	*Should essentially be a relitively simple thermostat of sorts, along with leds for various data, and the different selectable "modes"

	~~=See Also=~~
	*

	~~=Useful Links=~~
	*

Eric: Added some more information

2020-04-09T00:25:13Z

Added some more information

← Older revision		Revision as of 00:25, 9 April 2020
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	=Industry Standards=		=Industry Standards=
	*		==Biolite==
			===Biolite Campstove 1 and 2===
			*The backpacking marketed one
			*[https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/campstove-2]

			===Biolite Basecamp===
			*Marketed for barbecues (the northern usa definition of the event with burgers etc, not the southern usa definition of a type of smoked food...), and was sold in a similar form as a smokeless stove, and low level energy source for underdeveloped areas
			*[https://www.bioliteenergy.com/products/basecamp-pizzadome-bundle]

			===Biolite FirePit===
			*Uses the fan to make a smokeless fire pit
			*DOES NOT have a teg module, and is thus battery powered

	=Existing Open Source Design=		=Existing Open Source Design=
	*		*Various teg desings (these tend to be of the lesser quality DIY/LIFEHACK type spam etc)

	=Minimum Viable Product=		=Minimum Viable Product=

Eric: Created Page + Added Basic Sections/Info

2020-04-08T23:45:18Z

Created Page + Added Basic Sections/Info

New page

=Basics=
*TECHS for short
*A Device Similar to the "Biolite" stoves
*EXCEPT that it is maintainable, modular, (and perhaps better preforming (don't boast this till we can) )

=Industry Standards=
*

=Existing Open Source Design=
*

=Minimum Viable Product=
*3 Models:
**Soup can/standard biolite design size
**Rocket Stove Size
**Log Sized (~3 logs perhaps?)
*ALL MODELS have the TEG (the log sized biolite one DOES NOT, may be an advantage
*Perhaps devise method of removing ash better?
*Power Unit is modular, so betteries dieing do not "brick" the unit
*Fan mode adjustable from off to power generating minimum, to max heat/burn (perhaps even Solid Fuel Wok level, may be another good market (food enthusiasts) )
*Arduino nano perhaps (as simple control as possible)
*As many TEGs as possible to maximise the electricity generated
*Perhaps use the air inlet/fan as an air heatsink (at least partially) for the TEGs to preheat air, and cool the "cold side"
*Optional ceramic hearth (either ots or even printed with the [[d3d ceramic printer]] (Shatter risk, but increased heat retention and tolerance
*Uses the [[OSE Modular Battery]]
*Either a usb, or a car style barrel jack for DC output
*User buildable, and maintainable
*Ruggedized (won't rust, can handle some water (can't be submerged, but splashes and rain) , shock protection (may rule out ceramic, but if it's modular...) ) for backpackers etc to be able to ACTUALLY use it
*The modularity may lend itself to backpacking etc too due to being able to "spread out" the weight amongst packs (and not bring what you don't need)

=Basic Design=
==Frame==
*Welded stainless steel? Strong Plastic?

==Hearth==
*Either some sort of metal (most likely stainless steel), or ceramic (would lining with high temp mortar/cement work?)

==Fan Module==
*Small, yet powerful bldc motor?
*Needs to have high efficieny low speed capability, and relitivly high flow modes
*CAN drone motors etc do low speed (especially efficiently?)

==Control Module==
*Arduino nano, or a some other VERY small board of some sort
*WIFI and all that is not needed, and would just take up space and power
*Thermal Probe for hearth, air intake, and both sides of the TEGs (and perhaps ambient?)

==Battery Module==
*Not really needed, but some may want an integrated battery instead of an external one
*Make it a clip on module that goes over the power output?
*A simple supercapacitor, or nothing would work for most use cases (smooth out the variation, especially if a cheap power unit is used, yet not add mass/space

==IO==
*Indicator LEDs
*On/off switch
*Dial for modes?

=BOM=
==TEGs==
*Which is best for high heat combustion and air cooling?
* '''Needs more research'''

=CAD=
*

=Code=
*Should essentially be a relitively simple thermostat of sorts, along with leds for various data, and the different selectable "modes"

=See Also=
*

=Useful Links=
*