Open Source Truck Conceptual Design - Revision history

Marcin: /* MJ Sez */

2025-12-22T20:40:36Z

MJ Sez

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	Frame is only around 10% of curb weight - dirt cheap! [https://www.google.com/search?q=what+fraction+of+curb+weight+is+the+actual+frame+of+a+heavy+duty+pickup+truck+minus+all+components%3F&sca_esv=4c3fd08379a07a1b&sxsrf=AE3TifPPM-LDOrnKiPk8v40jg10zJS_ikw%3A1766435816664&ei=6KtJae2dKKajqtsPp5WI-Qo&ved=0ahUKEwjtsfuahtKRAxWmkWoFHacKIq8Q4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=what+fraction+of+curb+weight+is+the+actual+frame+of+a+heavy+duty+pickup+truck+minus+all+components%3F&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiY3doYXQgZnJhY3Rpb24gb2YgY3VyYiB3ZWlnaHQgaXMgdGhlIGFjdHVhbCBmcmFtZSBvZiBhIGhlYXZ5IGR1dHkgcGlja3VwIHRydWNrIG1pbnVzIGFsbCBjb21wb25lbnRzPzIEECEYCkjWNlC4CFi_NXAGeAGQAQCYAeQBoAHqEKoBBjI2LjEuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6ACZMICChAAGLADGNYEGEeYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwEzoAfZMLIHATG4B1jCBwUwLjEuMsgHCoAIAA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp]		Frame is only around 10% of curb weight - dirt cheap! [https://www.google.com/search?q=what+fraction+of+curb+weight+is+the+actual+frame+of+a+heavy+duty+pickup+truck+minus+all+components%3F&sca_esv=4c3fd08379a07a1b&sxsrf=AE3TifPPM-LDOrnKiPk8v40jg10zJS_ikw%3A1766435816664&ei=6KtJae2dKKajqtsPp5WI-Qo&ved=0ahUKEwjtsfuahtKRAxWmkWoFHacKIq8Q4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=what+fraction+of+curb+weight+is+the+actual+frame+of+a+heavy+duty+pickup+truck+minus+all+components%3F&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiY3doYXQgZnJhY3Rpb24gb2YgY3VyYiB3ZWlnaHQgaXMgdGhlIGFjdHVhbCBmcmFtZSBvZiBhIGhlYXZ5IGR1dHkgcGlja3VwIHRydWNrIG1pbnVzIGFsbCBjb21wb25lbnRzPzIEECEYCkjWNlC4CFi_NXAGeAGQAQCYAeQBoAHqEKoBBjI2LjEuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6ACZMICChAAGLADGNYEGEeYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwEzoAfZMLIHATG4B1jCBwUwLjEuMsgHCoAIAA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp]

			Minus all the suspension/steering components.

			We may need an open source heat treating oven, but we could certainly power it with biogas lol.

Marcin: /* MJ Sez */

2025-12-22T20:37:54Z

MJ Sez

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	This may be a completely doable route, where we get cut files automatically from Chat.		This may be a completely doable route, where we get cut files automatically from Chat.

			Frame is only around 10% of curb weight - dirt cheap! [https://www.google.com/search?q=what+fraction+of+curb+weight+is+the+actual+frame+of+a+heavy+duty+pickup+truck+minus+all+components%3F&sca_esv=4c3fd08379a07a1b&sxsrf=AE3TifPPM-LDOrnKiPk8v40jg10zJS_ikw%3A1766435816664&ei=6KtJae2dKKajqtsPp5WI-Qo&ved=0ahUKEwjtsfuahtKRAxWmkWoFHacKIq8Q4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=what+fraction+of+curb+weight+is+the+actual+frame+of+a+heavy+duty+pickup+truck+minus+all+components%3F&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiY3doYXQgZnJhY3Rpb24gb2YgY3VyYiB3ZWlnaHQgaXMgdGhlIGFjdHVhbCBmcmFtZSBvZiBhIGhlYXZ5IGR1dHkgcGlja3VwIHRydWNrIG1pbnVzIGFsbCBjb21wb25lbnRzPzIEECEYCkjWNlC4CFi_NXAGeAGQAQCYAeQBoAHqEKoBBjI2LjEuMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCA6ACZMICChAAGLADGNYEGEeYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwEzoAfZMLIHATG4B1jCBwUwLjEuMsgHCoAIAA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp]

Marcin: /* MJ Sez */

2025-12-22T20:35:03Z

MJ Sez

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	I like space frames, so the best solution would actually be a space frame (multiple short rods/tubes) in terms of weight to performance ratios. If members are CNC cut, this could be kitted.		I like space frames, so the best solution would actually be a space frame (multiple short rods/tubes) in terms of weight to performance ratios. If members are CNC cut, this could be kitted.

			Chassis starts at $18k.

			We should just get one from a junk yard and study that, no? What is the advantage of a $18k frame if we can get it from trash for a fraction - is there a real advantage? Just bust out the torch and quickie saw, and we can have a clean chassis.

			How to teach Chat to design a frame that can be cnc cut? See start here - [https://chatgpt.com/share/6949aad3-2d98-8010-8d1f-a80b96d658a0].

			This may be a completely doable route, where we get cut files automatically from Chat.

Marcin at 20:19, 22 December 2025

2025-12-22T20:19:58Z

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	This can readily be made with weldments (possibly) but studying an industry standard design would be a good first step.		This can readily be made with weldments (possibly) but studying an industry standard design would be a good first step.

			I think the multiple power cube idea would work if we use high flow power cube with a final drive of a high performance hydraulic motor whether we use standard differential and mechanical drive, or hydraulic drive. It would be a construction set as always.

			I like space frames, so the best solution would actually be a space frame (multiple short rods/tubes) in terms of weight to performance ratios. If members are CNC cut, this could be kitted.

Marcin at 20:17, 22 December 2025

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	I would think we need to find a way to greatly simplify their concept. Semi trucks are typically built on straight "C" rails for a frame. I would think we should be able to build a truck on a similar frame.		I would think we need to find a way to greatly simplify their concept. Semi trucks are typically built on straight "C" rails for a frame. I would think we should be able to build a truck on a similar frame.

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			I think opensourcing a chassis would be a good first step.

			This can readily be made with weldments (possibly) but studying an industry standard design would be a good first step.

Marcin: Created page with "=Mark= I am not sure where I found the higher price. But I think I was on the Ford site. The one you found is much more reasonable. https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-MZ73 Here is an interesting company that offers entire chassis: https://fatfender.com/pages/ffgchassis I would think we need to find a way to greatly simplify their concept. Semi trucks are typically built on straight "C" rails for a frame. I would think we should be able to build a truck on..."

2025-12-22T20:15:56Z

Created page with "=Mark= I am not sure where I found the higher price. But I think I was on the Ford site. The one you found is much more reasonable. https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-MZ73 Here is an interesting company that offers entire chassis: https://fatfender.com/pages/ffgchassis I would think we need to find a way to greatly simplify their concept. Semi trucks are typically built on straight "C" rails for a frame. I would think we should be able to build a truck on..."

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I am not sure where I found the higher price. But I think I was on the Ford site. The one you found is much more reasonable.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-MZ73

Here is an interesting company that offers entire chassis: https://fatfender.com/pages/ffgchassis

I would think we need to find a way to greatly simplify their concept. Semi trucks are typically built on straight "C" rails for a frame. I would think we should be able to build a truck on a similar frame.