Political Ponerology - Revision history

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			*[[The Myth of Normal]], Mate
	*[[Mask of Sanity]], Cleckley		*[[Mask of Sanity]], Cleckley
	*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]		*[[The Gulag Archipelago]], Solzhynitsyn
	*[[Liao Yiwu]]		*[[Liao Yiwu]]
	*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]		*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]
	*Evil or good is a choice for anyone - [https://patterico.substack.com/p/redefining-morality?utm_source=substack&amp%3Butm_medium=email&utm_medium=email]		*Evil or good is a choice for anyone - [https://patterico.substack.com/p/redefining-morality?utm_source=substack&amp%3Butm_medium=email&utm_medium=email]
	[[Category:Political Ponerology]]. Quote in [[Gulag Archipelago]] - ''Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart – and through all human hearts.''		[[Category:Political Ponerology]]. Quote in [[Gulag Archipelago]] - ''Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart – and through all human hearts.''

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			*[[Mask of Sanity]], Cleckley
	*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]		*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]
	*[[Liao Yiwu]]		*[[Liao Yiwu]]

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	See more information on this ~~seminal~~ book [https://www.opensourceecology.org/homebrew-industrial-revolution-and-other-worthwhile-titles/ at the blog]. You can download - the PDF at [[http://www.survivorshandbook.com/wp-content/articles/political-ponerology.pdf]]		See more information on this book [https://www.opensourceecology.org/homebrew-industrial-revolution-and-other-worthwhile-titles/ at the blog]. You can download - the PDF at [[http://www.survivorshandbook.com/wp-content/articles/political-ponerology.pdf]]

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	*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]		*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]
	*Evil or good is a choice for anyone - [https://patterico.substack.com/p/redefining-morality?utm_source=substack&amp%3Butm_medium=email&utm_medium=email]		*Evil or good is a choice for anyone - [https://patterico.substack.com/p/redefining-morality?utm_source=substack&amp%3Butm_medium=email&utm_medium=email]
	[[Category:Political Ponerology]]. Quote in [[Gulag Archipelago]] - 'Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart – and through all human hearts. '		[[Category:Political Ponerology]]. Quote in [[Gulag Archipelago]] - ''Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart – and through all human hearts.''

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	*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]		*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]
	*Evil or good is a choice for anyone - [https://patterico.substack.com/p/redefining-morality?utm_source=substack&amp%3Butm_medium=email&utm_medium=email]		*Evil or good is a choice for anyone - [https://patterico.substack.com/p/redefining-morality?utm_source=substack&amp%3Butm_medium=email&utm_medium=email]
	[[Category:Political Ponerology]]		[[Category:Political Ponerology]]. Quote in [[Gulag Archipelago]] - 'Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart – and through all human hearts. '

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	*[[Liao Yiwu]]		*[[Liao Yiwu]]
	*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]		*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]
			*Evil or good is a choice for anyone - [https://patterico.substack.com/p/redefining-morality?utm_source=substack&amp%3Butm_medium=email&utm_medium=email]
	[[Category:Political Ponerology]]		[[Category:Political Ponerology]]

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	*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]		*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]
	*[[Liao Yiwu]]		*[[Liao Yiwu]]
			*Cycle of humiliation and sadism - [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin.html]

	[[Category:Political Ponerology]]		[[Category:Political Ponerology]]

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	*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]		*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]
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	[[Category:Political Ponerology]]		[[Category:Political Ponerology]]

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			*[[The Gulag Archipelago]]

	[[Category:Political Ponerology]]		[[Category:Political Ponerology]]

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	*Sott.net has a bunch of articles on Ponerology - type the word in the search box. Such as this article [https://www.sott.net/article/338418-Interview-with-Harrison-Koehli-on-Political-Ponerology-Full-Transcript] at Sott.net, which has a low score on [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/ Mediabiasfactcheck.com], so keep that in mind as you read this. Mentions Robert Hare as the world's leading student of psychopathy, who coauthored [[Snakes in Suits]]. The same article has an interesting linguistic insight: ''Simon Barren-Cohen and he's written a book, I think it's called Zero Degrees of Empathy. And his idea is that what we've called evil, and he doesn't like the word evil, is basically a lack of empathy, which I agree with.''		*Sott.net has a bunch of articles on Ponerology - type the word in the search box. Such as this article [https://www.sott.net/article/338418-Interview-with-Harrison-Koehli-on-Political-Ponerology-Full-Transcript] at Sott.net, which has a low score on [https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/signs-of-the-times-sott/ Mediabiasfactcheck.com], so keep that in mind as you read this. Mentions Robert Hare as the world's leading student of psychopathy, who coauthored [[Snakes in Suits]]. The same article has an interesting linguistic insight: ''Simon Barren-Cohen and he's written a book, I think it's called Zero Degrees of Empathy. And his idea is that what we've called evil, and he doesn't like the word evil, is basically a lack of empathy, which I agree with.''
	*Same source as above - '''B-Scan - for psychopaths in a business.''' - ''Harrison: Well there are several researchers whose specialty is in psychopathy. The problem that I've seen is that their approach is pretty narrow. They went to grad school and thought, ok what am I going to do, well this sounds interesting, or maybe their prof studied psychopathy, and so they get into it and then they just follow the protocols, they go to prisons, they find the psychopaths that are in the prisons and do the PCLR on them, that's the psychopathy checklist, that's the standard diagnostic tool for criminal psychopathy. Then they get them in the lab and they do little tests here and there and they get some good research and some good results, but they don't seem to see the big picture, as far as I'm concerned. They see the significance in terms of crime, but a lot of them don't even get into the issues of successful psychopathy. These are the type of psychopaths that are on Wall Street for example. You brought up Bernie Madoff which is a great example. So there's a smaller subset of these academics, these real scientists and researchers that do get into this area, so that's a smaller subset. So Robert Hare, who Laura Knight-Jadczyk mentioned in the segments you were playing before we started talking, he and his college Paul Babiak, they wrote the book Snakes in Suits, and that's about psychopaths in the work place, psychopaths in a corporate environment. So they developed what they called the B-scan, the business scan. It's a diagnostic tool for identifying psychopathy in the work place. So it's something that corporations or business can use when they hire people, to try to screen out psychopaths. So it is starting to go in that direction, unfortunately that's the only place I'm aware of that it's being used in some businesses, but it is a start.''		*Same source as above - '''[[B-Scan]] - for psychopaths in a business.''' - ''Harrison: Well there are several researchers whose specialty is in psychopathy. The problem that I've seen is that their approach is pretty narrow. They went to grad school and thought, ok what am I going to do, well this sounds interesting, or maybe their prof studied psychopathy, and so they get into it and then they just follow the protocols, they go to prisons, they find the psychopaths that are in the prisons and do the PCLR on them, that's the psychopathy checklist, that's the standard diagnostic tool for criminal psychopathy. Then they get them in the lab and they do little tests here and there and they get some good research and some good results, but they don't seem to see the big picture, as far as I'm concerned. They see the significance in terms of crime, but a lot of them don't even get into the issues of successful psychopathy. These are the type of psychopaths that are on Wall Street for example. You brought up Bernie Madoff which is a great example. So there's a smaller subset of these academics, these real scientists and researchers that do get into this area, so that's a smaller subset. So Robert Hare, who Laura Knight-Jadczyk mentioned in the segments you were playing before we started talking, he and his college Paul Babiak, they wrote the book Snakes in Suits, and that's about psychopaths in the work place, psychopaths in a corporate environment. So they developed what they called the B-scan, the business scan. It's a diagnostic tool for identifying psychopathy in the work place. So it's something that corporations or business can use when they hire people, to try to screen out psychopaths. So it is starting to go in that direction, unfortunately that's the only place I'm aware of that it's being used in some businesses, but it is a start.''
	*Same source - ''However, the seemingly upstanding citizens in our corporate board rooms, and the humble clerks in our retails stores bilk us out of between 40 and 200 billion dollars a year, as opposed to the 4 billion from just the street crime. I thought that was an interesting statistic, as you've pointed out as well, there are many levels of psychopathy.''		*Same source - ''However, the seemingly upstanding citizens in our corporate board rooms, and the humble clerks in our retails stores bilk us out of between 40 and 200 billion dollars a year, as opposed to the 4 billion from just the street crime. I thought that was an interesting statistic, as you've pointed out as well, there are many levels of psychopathy.''
	*'' when you keep all that in your mind and you just think about the amount of suffering and carnage and warfare and murder and torture that goes on, and you think of the futility of all of the attempts to change it, and then when you realise the problem, when you realise the causal chains that are set, that lead to these behaviours, then you start to see that a solution is possible, and that change isn't impossible, and that hope for humanity is really what I think drives this book and makes it so important, because it is something that hasn't been available, it is knowledge that has never been so scientifically, so methodically set out, exactly how these processors happen'' - ibid		*'' when you keep all that in your mind and you just think about the amount of suffering and carnage and warfare and murder and torture that goes on, and you think of the futility of all of the attempts to change it, and then when you realise the problem, when you realise the causal chains that are set, that lead to these behaviours, then you start to see that a solution is possible, and that change isn't impossible, and that hope for humanity is really what I think drives this book and makes it so important, because it is something that hasn't been available, it is knowledge that has never been so scientifically, so methodically set out, exactly how these processors happen'' - ibid