Primera Bravo Disc Publishers - Revision history

Eric: Added some more information

2024-04-28T17:33:56Z

Added some more information

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	**Also replacement printhead (module) listed for ''$79.95''		**Also replacement printhead (module) listed for ''$79.95''
	***Uncertain if this is one of the printers where the disposable cartridge is only for ink, not a tank-ink-printhead all in one unit, but either way good that they have it i guess? ''Quite'' Pricey (even considering the ink to be "acceptable" given it's probably highway robbery as well lol; injection molded part with foam square put inside and a little ink added)		***Uncertain if this is one of the printers where the disposable cartridge is only for ink, not a tank-ink-printhead all in one unit, but either way good that they have it i guess? ''Quite'' Pricey (even considering the ink to be "acceptable" given it's probably highway robbery as well lol; injection molded part with foam square put inside and a little ink added)

	=== [[User: Eric]] Tinkering ===		=== [[User: Eric]] Tinkering ===
	*I can post some pictures, but yesterday/today i have been digging into the 4100 i got off ebay		*I can post some pictures, but yesterday/today i have been digging into the 4100 i got off ebay
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	**Beneath the "Do not Look At the Man Behind The Curtain" esque sticker, there appears to be an ink fill port (ie what the machine making it probably not used, not something labeled FILL HERE, but a [[Dispensing Syringe]] etc should work (minor apostrophe in that [[Do Different Inkjet Printers use Different Inks]] ) and some sort RFID Chip looking thing		**Beneath the "Do not Look At the Man Behind The Curtain" esque sticker, there appears to be an ink fill port (ie what the machine making it probably not used, not something labeled FILL HERE, but a [[Dispensing Syringe]] etc should work (minor apostrophe in that [[Do Different Inkjet Printers use Different Inks]] ) and some sort RFID Chip looking thing
	***I'm going to see if my RFID reader can see anything off of it		***I'm going to see if my RFID reader can see anything off of it

			===Pricing===
			====Black Ink====
			=====Amazon=====
			*[https://a.co/d/5mxrTu7 Primera Technology Primera 53604 Black Ink Cartridge 2-Pack for Bravo 4100 Series,53604 2PK] ( ~80 USD)
			**Actually shipping from "mediawholesaleonline" it seems?
			*[https://a.co/d/3QkAOpX 53606 Compatible Ink Cartridge Replacement for Primera 53604 Black Ink Used for Primera Bravo 4100 Series Printers (2 Pack) ] ( ~36 USD)
			**Probably what i will go with long term assuming things work out (that and/or diy refill). I want to check everything works nominally with the "proper" ink first and maybe do a side by side, ALTHOUGH this isn't for photos. Even if i were doing proper album art or something it's a CD not a Framed Portrait or some crazy stuff like that so i don't need some magical pigment tech just dark spot and no dark spot
			**Ships from "transpex"

			=====B&H Photo=====
			*[https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/752696-REG/Primera_53604_Black_Ink_Cartridge_For.html Primera Black Ink Cartridge For Primera Bravo 4100 Series Printers] ( ~37 USD)

	=Used Market=		=Used Market=

Eric: Brought Everyone Up to Speed on What I Just Did

2024-04-21T22:49:55Z

Brought Everyone Up to Speed on What I Just Did

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	**Also replacement printhead (module) listed for ''$79.95''		**Also replacement printhead (module) listed for ''$79.95''
	***Uncertain if this is one of the printers where the disposable cartridge is only for ink, not a tank-ink-printhead all in one unit, but either way good that they have it i guess? ''Quite'' Pricey (even considering the ink to be "acceptable" given it's probably highway robbery as well lol; injection molded part with foam square put inside and a little ink added)		***Uncertain if this is one of the printers where the disposable cartridge is only for ink, not a tank-ink-printhead all in one unit, but either way good that they have it i guess? ''Quite'' Pricey (even considering the ink to be "acceptable" given it's probably highway robbery as well lol; injection molded part with foam square put inside and a little ink added)
			=== [[User: Eric]] Tinkering ===
			*I can post some pictures, but yesterday/today i have been digging into the 4100 i got off ebay
			*Looked fine, i got all the software/drivers installed, plugged it in (to wall power and usb), turned it on did a self check everything going well...
			**...aaaaand it's out of black ink. Let me just hit color only mode aaaaaaaaaaaaand
			***Won't let me do that
			*So i'll buy a new cartridge, but i did some mild dissecting of the old one (the foam seems dry so it does indeed seem ''spent'' )
			**Beneath the "Do not Look At the Man Behind The Curtain" esque sticker, there appears to be an ink fill port (ie what the machine making it probably not used, not something labeled FILL HERE, but a [[Dispensing Syringe]] etc should work (minor apostrophe in that [[Do Different Inkjet Printers use Different Inks]] ) and some sort RFID Chip looking thing
			***I'm going to see if my RFID reader can see anything off of it

	=Used Market=		=Used Market=

Eric: Added some more information

2024-03-20T23:33:08Z

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	*4100/4101/4102 designates numbers of non-printing disc drives for burning if i understand correctly		*4100/4101/4102 designates numbers of non-printing disc drives for burning if i understand correctly
	*A prefix of 50 means it has a disc capacity of 50 supposedly (unsure on if this is per stack, or ''total'' (ie sneaky marketing talk similar to [[Electrical Power in vs Optical Power Out in Laser Diode Marketing]]		*A prefix of 50 means it has a disc capacity of 50 supposedly (unsure on if this is per stack, or ''total'' (ie sneaky marketing talk similar to [[Electrical Power in vs Optical Power Out in Laser Diode Marketing]]
			*"Autoprinter" means it is a version without any disc drives, as per the youtuuba video, it is faster for large runs to have it do the printing, take that stack, and put it in a larger stack of optical disk drives, or use a "disc cloner"

	==BRAVO 4000 Series==		==BRAVO 4000 Series==

Eric: Minor Clarification

2024-03-20T23:30:46Z

Minor Clarification

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	*Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)		*Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)
	*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)		*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)
			*As per [https://youtu.be/pJvrYErFhJ8?si=6GsV3Cfk5PyhSf4E&t=1168 this timecode in the youtuuba video in the external links section] , this can be removed and be used to safely grab a whole 50 or 100 stack at once
			**Would be another benefit of multiples, have the refill pre-cued in it's own holder

	=DIY/OS Versions=		=DIY/OS Versions=

Eric: Added some more links under the "External Links" section

2024-03-20T23:26:10Z

Added some more links under the "External Links" section

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	**Minor apostrophe for odd old formats and some others may have spun/written faster		**Minor apostrophe for odd old formats and some others may have spun/written faster

			=Alternatives=
			*Burning a disc in a PC, or external optical disc drive etc, then putting it into a printer by hand
			*
	=Internal Links=		=Internal Links=
	*[[SD Card Duplicators]]		*[[SD Card Duplicators]]
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	*[https://mediasupply.com/collections/bravo A Page on the Website "Media Supply" Titled "ALL PRIMERA BRAVO DUPLICATORS & PRINTER" ]		*[https://mediasupply.com/collections/bravo A Page on the Website "Media Supply" Titled "ALL PRIMERA BRAVO DUPLICATORS & PRINTER" ]
	*[https://youtu.be/THUvAxzfmmA?si=qZBpRPIK5ES6USg5 A Video by the YouTube Channel "Primera Technology" Titled "Bravo 4100-Series DVD Duplicator" ] ( '''~2 Minute Watch''' ) ( '''Basically their ad, but good demo''' )		*[https://youtu.be/THUvAxzfmmA?si=qZBpRPIK5ES6USg5 A Video by the YouTube Channel "Primera Technology" Titled "Bravo 4100-Series DVD Duplicator" ] ( '''~2 Minute Watch''' ) ( '''Basically their ad, but good demo''' )
			*[https://youtu.be/pJvrYErFhJ8?si=P-weOGruYVtQrI8I A Video by the YouTube Channel "youtuuba" titled "Primera Bravo 4200 Autoprinter Demonstration" ] ( '''~33 Minute Watch''' ) (They discuss their experience with the 4100 series, and mention the 4200 uses a different ink system/print head (had to do with their supplier being bought up, and the new IP owner not collaborating any more and/or not making that nozzle anymore), 4200 is slower and combined ink, nozzle is ''supposedly'' easier to clean)

Eric: Added some more links under the "External Links" section

2024-03-20T22:10:53Z

Added some more links under the "External Links" section

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	=External Links=		=External Links=
	*[https://mediasupply.com/collections/bravo A Page on the Website "Media Supply" Titled "ALL PRIMERA BRAVO DUPLICATORS & PRINTER" ]		*[https://mediasupply.com/collections/bravo A Page on the Website "Media Supply" Titled "ALL PRIMERA BRAVO DUPLICATORS & PRINTER" ]
			*[https://youtu.be/THUvAxzfmmA?si=qZBpRPIK5ES6USg5 A Video by the YouTube Channel "Primera Technology" Titled "Bravo 4100-Series DVD Duplicator" ] ( '''~2 Minute Watch''' ) ( '''Basically their ad, but good demo''' )

Eric: Added some more information

2024-03-20T21:45:24Z

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	*Which one is used, is it standard?		*Which one is used, is it standard?
	*If not can some janky [[Continuous Ink System]] / [[Supertank Printer]] type thing be done, that or [[Refilling Ink Cartridges]] with a syringe and bulk ink?		*If not can some janky [[Continuous Ink System]] / [[Supertank Printer]] type thing be done, that or [[Refilling Ink Cartridges]] with a syringe and bulk ink?
			It seems they went ''the opposite way'' and their new smaller model has some combined system*, the older ones had your standard [[CMYK]] in (insert format here if it isn't just a custom one)
			**[https://www.primera.com/all-supplies/ink-and-toner/disc-publisher-ink/bravo-se-series-ink.html Primera page for Bravo SE Inks] (ie the new ones)
			**[https://www.primera.com/all-supplies/disc-media-and-accessories/disc-publisher-ink/bravo-4051-and-4100-series-ink.html The Primera Page for the 4100 Series]
			***$38.95 for Black Ink
			***$29.95 for Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow
			***$117.95 for pack of all four
			**Also replacement printhead (module) listed for ''$79.95''
			***Uncertain if this is one of the printers where the disposable cartridge is only for ink, not a tank-ink-printhead all in one unit, but either way good that they have it i guess? ''Quite'' Pricey (even considering the ink to be "acceptable" given it's probably highway robbery as well lol; injection molded part with foam square put inside and a little ink added)

	=Used Market=		=Used Market=

Eric: Minor Clarification

2024-03-20T20:45:09Z

Minor Clarification

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	*Main obvious addition was Blu-ray Disc Drives, other than that seems similar		*Main obvious addition was Blu-ray Disc Drives, other than that seems similar
	*[https://mediasupply.com/collections/bravo/products/pri63502-1 Primera Bravo 4202 DVD±/CD-R (2 drives) ] (Going for 3,495 USD New)		*[https://mediasupply.com/collections/bravo/products/pri63502-1 Primera Bravo 4202 DVD±/CD-R (2 drives) ] (Going for 3,495 USD New)

			==Ink Cartridge==
			*Which one is used, is it standard?
			*If not can some janky [[Continuous Ink System]] / [[Supertank Printer]] type thing be done, that or [[Refilling Ink Cartridges]] with a syringe and bulk ink?

	=Used Market=		=Used Market=
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	*Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)		*Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)
	*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)		*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)

	~~==Ink Cartridge==~~
	*Which one is used, is it standard?
	*If not can some janky [[Continuous Ink System]] / [[Supertank Printer]] type thing be done, that or [[Refilling Ink Cartridges]] with a syringe and bulk ink?

	=DIY/OS Versions=		=DIY/OS Versions=

Eric: Minor Clarification

2024-03-20T20:44:46Z

Minor Clarification

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	==Disc Holder==		==Disc Holder==
	*Some used modules ~~don't~~ have it, ~~and~~ it can be sold as an accessory for the front "dispenser" to make it a Kiosk of sorts		*Some used modules posted have lost it, although it can be sold as an accessory for the front "dispenser" to make it a Kiosk of sorts
	*Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)		*Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)
	*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)		*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)

Eric: Added some more information

2024-03-20T20:43:24Z

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 *Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)
 *[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)
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