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Marcin: /* Case 2 - Non-Telescoping 21' Vehicle */

2020-10-08T14:36:46Z

Case 2 - Non-Telescoping 21' Vehicle

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	==Case 2 - Non-Telescoping 21' Vehicle==		==Case 2 - Non-Telescoping 21' Vehicle==
	*2.9kW power.		*2.9kW power. 21'x8'= 168 sf.
	*Low-rider back with panels - 10 panels - 500lb		*Low-rider back with panels - 10 panels - 500lb
	*Total vehicle weight - 1000lb		*Total vehicle weight - 1000lb

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T20:06:09Z

Specific Case 1

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	*3D printed airless tires		*3D printed airless tires

	==Specific Case 1==		==Specific Case 1 - Telescoping 32' vehicle==
	*Vehicle lengths in the USA are typically 65' [https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-dimensions/]		*Vehicle lengths in the USA are typically 65' [https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-dimensions/]
	*Vehicle telescopes, so it has a a normal length of 20' (size of a van) to 30'.		*Vehicle telescopes, so it has a a normal length of 20' (size of a van) to 30'.
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	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*Each panel is 50 lb [https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]. 29 panels make it 1450 lb - leaving only 550 lb for everything else - which is difficult. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]. In which case the structural engineering is easily doable without extreme performance design.		*Each panel is 50 lb [https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]. 29 panels make it 1450 lb - leaving only 550 lb for everything else - which is difficult. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]. In which case the structural engineering is easily doable without extreme performance design.
	*		*Flexible panels are not as durable.
			*Case exists for a heavier vehicle with stiff panels.
			*Say 3000 lb weight - but that gets into pushing too much mass around. Doable. With 11.5 hp available, 4.5 goes to resistance, and 7 hp to drive (5 kw).
			*There would be a 20kW auxiliary battery pack for added power.
			*All together, this makes for an interesting city vehicle that can also be designed for highways.
			*A telescoping vehicle is one route to try, and it is definitely a viable idea.

			==Case 2 - Non-Telescoping 21' Vehicle==
			*2.9kW power.
			*Low-rider back with panels - 10 panels - 500lb
			*Total vehicle weight - 1000lb
			*Onboard hydrogen compression plant - trickle compressor, runs all day.
			*Storage - see [[Hydrogen Storage]]

	=Links=		=Links=
	*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]		*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]
	*[[Extreme U]]		*[[Extreme U]]

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:51:02Z

Specific Case 1

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	*This is plenty for driving on flat land.		*This is plenty for driving on flat land.
	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*Each panel is 50 lb [https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]. ~~Allows~~ for ~~20 of these, if half the weight~~ is ~~structure~~. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]. In which case the structural engineering is easily doable without extreme performance design.		*Each panel is 50 lb [https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]. 29 panels make it 1450 lb - leaving only 550 lb for everything else - which is difficult. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]. In which case the structural engineering is easily doable without extreme performance design.
	*		*

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:49:30Z

Specific Case 1

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	*This is plenty for driving on flat land.		*This is plenty for driving on flat land.
	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]. In which case the structural engineering is easily doable without extreme performance design.		*Each panel is 50 lb [https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]. In which case the structural engineering is easily doable without extreme performance design.
	*		*

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:49:11Z

Specific Case 1

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	*This is plenty for driving on flat land.		*This is plenty for driving on flat land.
	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]		*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]. In which case the structural engineering is easily doable without extreme performance design.
	*		*

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:48:26Z

Specific Case 1

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	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]		*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]
			*

	=Links=		=Links=
	*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]		*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]
	*[[Extreme U]]		*[[Extreme U]]

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:48:00Z

Specific Case 1

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	*This is plenty for driving on flat land.		*This is plenty for driving on flat land.
	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 85% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]		*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 82% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]

	=Links=		=Links=
	*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]		*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]
	*[[Extreme U]]		*[[Extreme U]]

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:47:42Z

Specific Case 1

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	*This is plenty for driving on flat land.		*This is plenty for driving on flat land.
	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*Each panels		*Each panel is 50 lb [[https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]]. Allows for 20 of these, if half the weight is structure. There is a strong case for flexible panels that are 85% lighter [https://www.amazon.com/Solar-Cynergy-120watt-Monocrystalline-Flexible-Bendable/dp/B01M0O0NN0/ref=asc_df_B01M0O0NN0/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312134265253&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1039684611280118666&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023315&hvtargid=pla-606804628201&psc=1]

	=Links=		=Links=
	*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]		*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]
	*[[Extreme U]]		*[[Extreme U]]

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:45:02Z

Specific Case 1

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	*This is plenty for driving on flat land.		*This is plenty for driving on flat land.
	*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.		*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
	*		*Each panels

	=Links=		=Links=
	*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]		*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]
	*[[Extreme U]]		*[[Extreme U]]

Marcin: /* Specific Case 1 */

2020-08-12T19:44:49Z

Specific Case 1

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	==Specific Case 1==		==Specific Case 1==
	*Vehicle lengths in the USA are typically 65' [https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-dimensions/]		*Vehicle lengths in the USA are typically 65' [https://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-dimensions/]
			*Vehicle telescopes, so it has a a normal length of 20' (size of a van) to 30'.
	*This is 8x65=520 square feet, or 48 sq m.		*This is 8x65=520 square feet, or 48 sq m.
	*Take a Sunelec panel - [https://sunelec.com/solar-panels/] - Heliene 300 - 65.5 × 39.4 in - for 300w. [https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]. 2581 sq in or 1.67 sq m. This is 180W/sq m.		*Take a Sunelec panel - [https://sunelec.com/solar-panels/] - Heliene 300 - 65.5 × 39.4 in - for 300w. [https://www.wholesalesolar.com/9434300/heliene/solar-panels/heliene-300-black-mono-solar-panel]. 2581 sq in or 1.67 sq m. This is 180W/sq m.
			*There are 29 solar panels in this area.
	48 180= 8.6 kW		48 180= 8.6 kW
	*Thus, a large trailer would have a total energy capture of 8.6 kW.		*Thus, a large trailer would have a total energy capture of 8.6 kW (11.5 hp)
	*This is plenty for driving on flat land.		*This is plenty for driving on flat land.
			*Typical rolling resistance is 1.5 hp for 1000 lb of vehicle. [https://www.electriccarpartscompany.com/assets/images/Motor-and-Battery-Primer-site.pdf]. We can allow for a 2000 lb vehicle to make this easy.
			*

	=Links=		=Links=
	*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]		*Honda Insight - [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight]
	*[[Extreme U]]		*[[Extreme U]]