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		<title>Marcin at 00:22, 20 April 2026</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Answer: 60% of domestic energy use is heat/cool. 25% of all electric is industrial.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Answer: 60% of domestic energy use is heat/cool. 25% of all electric is industrial.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In short, this video above deals with analyzing a broken system, a problem solved by system redesign. Batteries will never store grid level power. The solution is simpler because 60% of domestic energy use is heat/cool/water heat. This can be replaced with heat pump powered cooling and heating combined with a different type of battery: a thermal battery (also known as water), which is 100x cheaper over lifetime than batteries. With this his we can address heat by daytime heating/cooling - no power use when sun is not shining. If you thus cover 60% of energy use, we get into a different scenario all together regarding &amp;#039;intermittency&amp;#039; of renewables. With smart home controls, this gets you into the regime of tiny batteries serving critical power loads, such as internet. And industrial electricity is only about 25% of all electricity, and can be solved with on-demand or local use of energy. We will be doing the heat/cool storage system by our fifth [[Seed Eco-Home]] or so, and our house will still be lower cost than the market.  Anyway, the whole energy discussion is a religion as you see:) Everyone loves to bullshit based on the assumptions they make.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In short, this video above deals with analyzing a broken system, a problem solved by system redesign. Batteries will &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;likely &lt;/ins&gt;never store grid level power. The solution is simpler because 60% of domestic energy use is heat/cool/water heat. This can be replaced with heat pump powered cooling and heating combined with a different type of battery: a thermal battery (also known as water), which is 100x cheaper over lifetime than batteries. With this his we can address heat by daytime heating/cooling - no power use when sun is not shining. If you thus cover 60% of energy use, we get into a different scenario all together regarding &amp;#039;intermittency&amp;#039; of renewables. With smart home controls, this gets you into the regime of tiny batteries serving critical power loads, such as internet. And industrial electricity is only about 25% of all electricity, and can be solved with on-demand or local use of energy. We will be doing the heat/cool storage system by our fifth [[Seed Eco-Home]] or so, and our house will still be lower cost than the market.  Anyway, the whole energy discussion is a religion as you see:) Everyone loves to bullshit based on the assumptions they make.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Marcin: Created page with &quot;Critique by mainstream assumption (no thermal battery) that renewables are a dumb idea in terms of replacing fossil fools.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-zhDGjn8  Answer...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Critique by mainstream assumption (no thermal battery) that renewables are a dumb idea in terms of replacing fossil fools.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeI-zhDGjn8  Answer...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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In short, this video above deals with analyzing a broken system, a problem solved by system redesign. Batteries will never store grid level power. The solution is simpler because 60% of domestic energy use is heat/cool/water heat. This can be replaced with heat pump powered cooling and heating combined with a different type of battery: a thermal battery (also known as water), which is 100x cheaper over lifetime than batteries. With this his we can address heat by daytime heating/cooling - no power use when sun is not shining. If you thus cover 60% of energy use, we get into a different scenario all together regarding &amp;#039;intermittency&amp;#039; of renewables. With smart home controls, this gets you into the regime of tiny batteries serving critical power loads, such as internet. And industrial electricity is only about 25% of all electricity, and can be solved with on-demand or local use of energy. We will be doing the heat/cool storage system by our fifth [[Seed Eco-Home]] or so, and our house will still be lower cost than the market.  Anyway, the whole energy discussion is a religion as you see:) Everyone loves to bullshit based on the assumptions they make.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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