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Marcin: /* About */

2019-07-31T20:19:49Z

About

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	The key point of OSE relevance is that OSE would benefit from upvoting in terms of aggregating wisdom of crowds for collaborative development. Any endless threads of low quality forum threads can be improved by simply adding upvoting - where the most valuable content begins to move up in prominence by being placed at the top of the page. This is an indispensible tool for any platform that would like to tap the wisdom of contributors.		The key point of OSE relevance is that OSE would benefit from upvoting in terms of aggregating wisdom of crowds for collaborative development. Any endless threads of low quality forum threads can be improved by simply adding upvoting - where the most valuable content begins to move up in prominence by being placed at the top of the page. This is an indispensible tool for any platform that would like to tap the wisdom of contributors.

			For example, we could use Upvoting to distill technical answers to specific questions. If our community is solid, then upvoting can be used to distill information quickly.

	=OSE Use Cases=		=OSE Use Cases=

Marcin: /* Suitability of Stack Exchange for OSE */

2019-07-27T15:46:14Z

Suitability of Stack Exchange for OSE

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	=Suitability of Stack Exchange for OSE=		=Suitability of Stack Exchange for OSE=
	Filtering through the [[OSE Vision]], the description [[Area 51 of Stack Exchange]], and the discussion of [https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/80106/what-can-be-done-with-area-51 Area 51 issues] indicates that Stack Exchange is not a good fit for OSE. First - its current startup procedures for new sites make the creation of an OSE site unlikely. OSE was already rejected in 2013. Further, Stack Exchange itself is not open source, which makes it not transparent or inclusive when filtered through the OSE Vision.		Filtering through the [[OSE Vision]], the description [[Area 51 of Stack Exchange]], and the discussion of [https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/80106/what-can-be-done-with-area-51 Area 51 issues] indicates that Stack Exchange is not a good fit for OSE. First - its current startup procedures for new sites make the creation of an OSE site unlikely. OSE was already rejected in 2013. Further, Stack Exchange itself is not open source, which makes it not transparent or inclusive when filtered through the OSE Vision. The $20k per year for a 100 person team is further exclusive to public-interest projects - and plainly not scalable to 1000s of users based on cost alone. Thus, an alternative must be found.

	=Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites=		=Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites=

Marcin: /* Cost */

2019-07-27T15:44:10Z

Cost

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	*'''Stack Overflow Enterprise''' costs $200/user. [https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/03/stack-overflow-for-teams-lets-any-group-use-the-qa-platform-internally/]. Ballpark cost is $20k for 100 users. Not scalable to OSE purposes.		*'''Stack Overflow Enterprise''' costs $200/user. [https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/03/stack-overflow-for-teams-lets-any-group-use-the-qa-platform-internally/]. Ballpark cost is $20k for 100 users. Not scalable to OSE purposes.
	*'''Stack Exchange''' - umbrella organization.		*'''Stack Exchange''' - umbrella organization.

			=Suitability of Stack Exchange for OSE=
			Filtering through the [[OSE Vision]], the description [[Area 51 of Stack Exchange]], and the discussion of [https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/80106/what-can-be-done-with-area-51 Area 51 issues] indicates that Stack Exchange is not a good fit for OSE. First - its current startup procedures for new sites make the creation of an OSE site unlikely. OSE was already rejected in 2013. Further, Stack Exchange itself is not open source, which makes it not transparent or inclusive when filtered through the OSE Vision.

	=Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites=		=Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites=

Marcin: /* Cost */

2019-07-27T15:37:05Z

Cost

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	=Cost=		=Cost=
			*Stack overflow - but setting up a community is questionable. OSE was rejected in 2013. See [[Area 51 of Stack Exchange]]
	*'''Stack Overflow Enterprise''' costs $200/user. [https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/03/stack-overflow-for-teams-lets-any-group-use-the-qa-platform-internally/]. Ballpark cost is $20k for 100 users. Not scalable to OSE purposes.		*'''Stack Overflow Enterprise''' costs $200/user. [https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/03/stack-overflow-for-teams-lets-any-group-use-the-qa-platform-internally/]. Ballpark cost is $20k for 100 users. Not scalable to OSE purposes.
	*'''Stack Exchange''' - umbrella organization.		*'''Stack Exchange''' - umbrella organization.

Marcin: /* Stack Overflow */

2019-07-27T15:29:26Z

Stack Overflow

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	#Use as a survey, where people respond to a survey question and upvote or learn from others' answers. Thus, this could be a tool for upgrading human consciousness.		#Use as a survey, where people respond to a survey question and upvote or learn from others' answers. Thus, this could be a tool for upgrading human consciousness.

	=~~Stack Overflow~~=		=Cost=
	*Stack Overflow Enterprise costs $200/user. [https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/03/stack-overflow-for-teams-lets-any-group-use-the-qa-platform-internally/]		*'''Stack Overflow Enterprise''' costs $200/user. [https://venturebeat.com/2018/05/03/stack-overflow-for-teams-lets-any-group-use-the-qa-platform-internally/]. Ballpark cost is $20k for 100 users. Not scalable to OSE purposes.
			*'''Stack Exchange''' - umbrella organization.

	=Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites=		=Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites=

Marcin: /* OSE Links */

2019-07-22T19:48:26Z

OSE Links

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	=OSE Links=		=OSE Links=
	*[[Forum]]		*[[Forum]]
			=Links=
			*Effects of up/down-voting - [https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/upvotes-downvotes-created-equal/story?id=19905805]

Marcin: /* OSE Position */

2019-07-22T19:40:04Z

OSE Position

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	==OSE Position==		==OSE Position==
	Crowd input is a critical feature. Reddit is ranked #12 on Alexa. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit]. Stack Overflow is ranked 49 on Alexa - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_Overflow]. It's the ~~key~~ to ~~Reddit~~.		Crowd input is a critical feature. Reddit is ranked #12 on Alexa. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit]. Stack Overflow is ranked 49 on Alexa - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_Overflow]. Of the top 50 sites worldwide, that makes for 2 upvote sites and no forum sites. It appears that the usefulness of a crowd-distillation feature (up/downvote) speaks for itself.

			Upvotes and downvotes are useful, pending cultural adjustment. It should be stated that an upvote or downvote is only an opinion, and it provides additional info. Upvotes and downvotes can also be manipulated. So the bottom line is: up/downvotes may or may not be accurate. But their provide some insight. Upvotes show what people like. Downvotes may trigger people. As long as one's self-esteem is healthy - one can benefit from both upvotes and downvotes. From the standpoint of a Growth Mindset - core to the [[OSE Philosophy]] - both downvotes and upvotes are useful.

	=OSE Links=		=OSE Links=
	*[[Forum]]		*[[Forum]]

Marcin: /* OSE Links */

2019-07-22T19:29:25Z

OSE Links

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	:*Discourse - appears not to endorse up/downvoting - [https://meta.discourse.org/t/are-there-upvotes-downvotes-score-for-the-posts/28103]		:*Discourse - appears not to endorse up/downvoting - [https://meta.discourse.org/t/are-there-upvotes-downvotes-score-for-the-posts/28103]

			=Controversy=
			There appears to be hubbub on the net that up/down-voting is not good because it biases discussions?
			*Legit content is downvoted? [https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752589617]


			==OSE Position==
			Crowd input is a critical feature. Reddit is ranked #12 on Alexa. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit]. Stack Overflow is ranked 49 on Alexa - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_Overflow]. It's the key to Reddit.
	=OSE Links=		=OSE Links=
	*[[Forum]]		*[[Forum]]

Marcin: /* Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites */

2019-07-22T19:22:12Z

Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites

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	:*Askbot seems to have basic functionality. Ex - [https://answers.ros.org/question/325039/apt-update-fails-cannot-install-pkgs-key-not-working/]. I like the feature of sharing discussion on social media - FB, Twitter, Linked In.		:*Askbot seems to have basic functionality. Ex - [https://answers.ros.org/question/325039/apt-update-fails-cannot-install-pkgs-key-not-working/]. I like the feature of sharing discussion on social media - FB, Twitter, Linked In.
	:*Biostar - [https://www.biostars.org/info/faq/] - reputation increased by number of upvotes of their content.		:*Biostar - [https://www.biostars.org/info/faq/] - reputation increased by number of upvotes of their content.
	:*LampCMS - dubbed the Open Source Stack Overflow - [https://www.lampcms.com/]. Also - [http://support.lampcms.com/viewquestion/quest12/Ask-your-questions-here-test-this-site-don-t-shy]. Uses Mongo DB - is that an issue if we use MariaDB?		:*LampCMS - '''Appears to be dead''' - [https://github.com/snytkine/LampCMS]. dubbed the Open Source Stack Overflow - [https://www.lampcms.com/]. Also - [http://support.lampcms.com/viewquestion/quest12/Ask-your-questions-here-test-this-site-don-t-shy]. Uses Mongo DB - is that an issue if we use MariaDB?
	:*OSQA is dead - [https://osqa-ask.wireshark.org/questions/60424/osqa-is-unmaintained-whats-next]		:*OSQA is dead - [https://osqa-ask.wireshark.org/questions/60424/osqa-is-unmaintained-whats-next]
			:*Discourse - appears not to endorse up/downvoting - [https://meta.discourse.org/t/are-there-upvotes-downvotes-score-for-the-posts/28103]

	=OSE Links=		=OSE Links=
	*[[Forum]]		*[[Forum]]

Marcin: /* Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites */

2019-07-22T19:20:02Z

Open Source Upvotable Q&A Sites

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	:*LampCMS - dubbed the Open Source Stack Overflow - [https://www.lampcms.com/]. Also - [http://support.lampcms.com/viewquestion/quest12/Ask-your-questions-here-test-this-site-don-t-shy]. Uses Mongo DB - is that an issue if we use MariaDB?		:*LampCMS - dubbed the Open Source Stack Overflow - [https://www.lampcms.com/]. Also - [http://support.lampcms.com/viewquestion/quest12/Ask-your-questions-here-test-this-site-don-t-shy]. Uses Mongo DB - is that an issue if we use MariaDB?
	:*OSQA is dead - [https://osqa-ask.wireshark.org/questions/60424/osqa-is-unmaintained-whats-next]		:*OSQA is dead - [https://osqa-ask.wireshark.org/questions/60424/osqa-is-unmaintained-whats-next]
	*eXo - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXo_Platform]

	=OSE Links=		=OSE Links=
	*[[Forum]]		*[[Forum]]