Steam Engine Research/Power Kinetics - Revision history

Mjn at 12:58, 19 July 2011

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	** email: bortond@rpi.edu		** email: bortond@rpi.edu
	* R. Rogers, Researcher		* R. Rogers, Researcher
			* Ronald Whaley, Steam Engine Developer
			** Email: ron.k.whaley@gmail.com
			* Prof. Kaneff

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Mjn at 03:08, 30 May 2011

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	Received from Prof. David Borton of RPI, May 17, 2011		Received from Prof. David Borton of RPI, May 17, 2011
	Hello Mark,		Hello Mark,

	I just submitted my grades and I'm about to get on a plane to a solar conference. I know of your OSE project. Yes, the diesel conversion might be appropriate for your project, The bash valve material is a significant problem for high efficiency, but for lower temperature operation you can probably get something that will work. Next week I should have some time.		I just submitted my grades and I'm about to get on a plane to a solar conference. I know of your OSE project. Yes, the diesel conversion might
			be appropriate for your project, The bash valve material is a significant problem for high efficiency, but for lower temperature operation you can
			probably get something that will work. Next week I should have some time.

	Regards,		Regards,
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	I hope you had a positive experience at solar conference you attended. I was wondering if you had time now to discuss White Cliffs/Power Kinetics. Reading between the lines in the White Cliffs Report, Power Kinetics was given/sold the North American rights to the White Cliffs steam engine technology, along with with the solar concentrator/collector technology. Would it be possible to get the detailed specifications for the converted Lister Diesel engine?		I hope you had a positive experience at solar conference you attended. I was wondering if you had time now to discuss White Cliffs/Power Kinetics.
			Reading between the lines in the White Cliffs Report, Power Kinetics was given/sold the North American rights to the White Cliffs steam engine technology,
			along with with the solar concentrator/collector technology. Would it be possible to get the detailed specifications for the converted Lister Diesel engine?

	We are rapidly moving towards the point where we build our first steam engine and since it was influenced heavily by the White Cliffs experience, it would be great help to get the engineering details. Would that be possible?		We are rapidly moving towards the point where we build our first steam engine and since it was influenced heavily by the White Cliffs experience, it would
			be great help to get the engineering details. Would that be possible?

	You can see our current design concepts at http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Design. As you can see from these drawings, it is a basic low-power, bump valve operated, uniflow steam engine. I've done some initial indicator diagrams that can be viewed at http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Specifications/Work_Diagrams, but we are still vetting the design against thermodynamic and fluid-flow theory.		You can see our current design concepts at http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Design. As you can see from these drawings, it is a basic low-power,
			bump valve operated, uniflow steam engine. I've done some initial indicator diagrams that can be viewed at http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Specifications/Work_Diagrams,
			but we are still vetting the design against thermodynamic and fluid-flow theory.

	OSE is also working on a parabolic solar concentrator that will generate steam for the steam engine. The concentrator, steam engine, and a basic generator should allow us to generate electricity for general power use. Any comments or suggestions you might have would be quite welcome, given your background and interest in solar power.		OSE is also working on a parabolic solar concentrator that will generate steam for the steam engine. The concentrator, steam engine, and a basic generator should
			allow us to generate electricity for general power use. Any comments or suggestions you might have would be quite welcome, given your background and interest in solar power.

	- Mark J. Norton		- Mark J. Norton

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			Received from Prof. David Borton of RPI, May 17, 2011
			Hello Mark,

			I just submitted my grades and I'm about to get on a plane to a solar conference. I know of your OSE project. Yes, the diesel conversion might be appropriate for your project, The bash valve material is a significant problem for high efficiency, but for lower temperature operation you can probably get something that will work. Next week I should have some time.

			Regards,

			David
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			Sent to Prof. David Borton of RPI, May 29, 2011
			Prof. Borton:

			I hope you had a positive experience at solar conference you attended. I was wondering if you had time now to discuss White Cliffs/Power Kinetics. Reading between the lines in the White Cliffs Report, Power Kinetics was given/sold the North American rights to the White Cliffs steam engine technology, along with with the solar concentrator/collector technology. Would it be possible to get the detailed specifications for the converted Lister Diesel engine?

			We are rapidly moving towards the point where we build our first steam engine and since it was influenced heavily by the White Cliffs experience, it would be great help to get the engineering details. Would that be possible?

			You can see our current design concepts at http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Design. As you can see from these drawings, it is a basic low-power, bump valve operated, uniflow steam engine. I've done some initial indicator diagrams that can be viewed at http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Specifications/Work_Diagrams, but we are still vetting the design against thermodynamic and fluid-flow theory.

			OSE is also working on a parabolic solar concentrator that will generate steam for the steam engine. The concentrator, steam engine, and a basic generator should allow us to generate electricity for general power use. Any comments or suggestions you might have would be quite welcome, given your background and interest in solar power.

			- Mark J. Norton
			OSE Steam Engine Project
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Mjn at 12:57, 14 May 2011

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Mjn at 02:40, 14 May 2011

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	* Possibly acquired by NationalGrid		* Possibly acquired by NationalGrid
	* Possible relationship to Sustainable Energy Systems, Inc, Hilltop Road, Troy, NY 12180 ?		* Possible relationship to Sustainable Energy Systems, Inc, Hilltop Road, Troy, NY 12180 ?
			** David Borton was/is president [http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:0SId52gfhCcJ:photovoltaics.sandia.gov/TecassforSolAmerSolarcities/Docs/Solar%2520Monitoring%2520guide.pdf+Sustainable+Energy+Systems,+Inc,+Hilltop+Road,+Troy,+NY&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESj1dvwzh24z8kzRSoeuE-W6Pvf_iS5BDWYYIYW2hguapTKFzKsJBvT3kdNBZIj7fQTPM3b5y_RZ49Whga_UYL04lmkkcn3CaU1D2V9XMkaciTE1Aj5FnxRdHmp5bXXg6yNGMUvc&sig=AHIEtbRSiVxhkLb_jtZCwID0mjIVWk3muQ&pli=1]

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	Dr. Borton:		Dr. Borton:

	I've been doing some research lately into the use of solar concentrators for power generation using steam turbines and engines. My understanding is that you may have been involved with Power Kinetics, Inc. of Troy, NY. Is that company still doing business or has it been acquired by another company?		I've been doing some research lately into the use of solar concentrators for power generation using steam turbines and engines. My understanding is that
			you may have been involved with Power Kinetics, Inc. of Troy, NY. Is that company still doing business or has it been acquired by another company?

	The specific line of inquiry I am pursuing are details of the conversion of a Lister Diesel engine to steam power that was used in the White Cliffs Solar Power Station in NSW, Australia in the early 1980's. While it may have been that Power Kinetics was more interested in the solar concentrators developed by the Australian National University team, it seems to acquired the specifics on the steam engine at the same time.		The specific line of inquiry I am pursuing are details of the conversion of a Lister Diesel engine to steam power that was used in the White Cliffs
			Solar Power Station in NSW, Australia in the early 1980's. While it may have been that Power Kinetics was more interested in the solar concentrators
			developed by the Australian National University team, it seems to acquired the specifics on the steam engine at the same time.

	I am working with the Open Source Ecology project (http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Main_Page). OSE is developing a set of open source machines that enabled the development of small, local economies including the generation of local power using solar concentrators (etc). I am working on the design of a low-cost, modular, scalable steam engine (http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Design) which could be enhanced using the techniques developed for the White Cliffs project. Any information you might have would be of great use to us.		I am working with the Open Source Ecology project (http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Main_Page). OSE is developing a set of open source machines that enabled
			the development of small, local economies including the generation of local power using solar concentrators (etc). I am working on the design of a low-cost,
			modular, scalable steam engine (http://openfarmtech.org/wiki/Steam_Engine_Design) which could be enhanced using the techniques developed for the White Cliffs project.
			Any information you might have would be of great use to us.

	- Mark Norton		- Mark Norton
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	Prof. Rice:		Prof. Rice:

	I am trying to track down a company by the name of Power Kinetics of Troy, NY. My research indicates that you helped to incubate this company back in the 1980's while at Rensselaer. Does the company still exist? Was it acquired by another company? I would appreciate any information or contacts you might have.		I am trying to track down a company by the name of Power Kinetics of Troy, NY. My research indicates that you helped to incubate this company
			back in the 1980's while at Rensselaer. Does the company still exist? Was it acquired by another company?
			I would appreciate any information or contacts you might have.

	- Mark Norton		- Mark Norton

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Mjn at 02:32, 14 May 2011

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	* Mark P. Rice, President		* Mark P. Rice, President [http://www.nbia.org/about_nbia/founders_awards/rice.php]
			** Director of the Rensselaer business incubation program that started PKI
			** Possibly a professor of technology at Olin College of Engineering in Needham, MA.
			** Professor of Technology Entrepreneurship, 781-239-5237, mrice@babson.edu
	* W. E. Rogers, Researcher (Principle?)		* W. E. Rogers, Researcher (Principle?)
	* David N. Borton, Researcher [http://www.rpi.edu/~bortond/]		* David N. Borton, Researcher [http://www.rpi.edu/~bortond/]