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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#039;If the Arduino seems to expensive for some projects you should treat it as an development platform and then change to a design that has only the necessary hardware. The minimum h…&amp;#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the Arduino seems to expensive for some projects you should treat it as an development platform and then change to a design that has only the necessary hardware. The minimum hardware can be build for under $10. Here you would design with the arduino and transplant the programmed chip when your design is ready.&lt;br /&gt;
If you don&amp;#039;t need serial communications you can build a clone on simple proto board&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.freeduino.de/blogs/otto/arduino-auf-streifenraster&lt;br /&gt;
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if you need serial communication and your pc has com ports and you can manufacture pcbs you can use the single sided arduino clone&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1196740449;start=all&lt;br /&gt;
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if you can not manufacture pcbs the old non usb arduino pcb is still available from some vendors.&lt;br /&gt;
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To do this you need to be able to program the boot loader into the Atmega chip that you will transplant. The&lt;br /&gt;
Arduino Diecimila, Arduino NG and Arduino Duemilanove can do this through the FTDI USB to serial chip that&lt;br /&gt;
they contain.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.geocities.jp/arduino_diecimila/bootloader/index_en.html&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to build an simple AVR programmer look at&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.arduino.cc/en/Hacking/ParallelProgrammer or&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.dl1dow.de/inhalt/arduino/bootloader/e_arduino_bootloader.htm&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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