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		<title>Mjn at 23:30, 15 June 2011</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Regarding this, fractional distillation will work, and I will gladly work on this, if given the chance. I think the first chemical that should be sought first is hydrofluoric acid, due to the natural scarcity of fluorine, and its importance for the aluminum cycle. In the context of permaculture, tea (which happens to be one of my favorite beverages)is notable for its concentration of fluorides in the leaves. Due to the nature of the regolith there and the abundance of clays in the meander scars (which are quite visible in a software package for viewing the topography of the area), I think it could be a viable way to produce aluminum. Obviously, it would need to be assessed and implemented with the utmost environmental care, but feasible, nonetheless.[[User:James Clark|James Clark]] 12:29, 15 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Regarding this, fractional distillation will work, and I will gladly work on this, if given the chance. I think the first chemical that should be sought first is hydrofluoric acid, due to the natural scarcity of fluorine, and its importance for the aluminum cycle. In the context of permaculture, tea (which happens to be one of my favorite beverages)is notable for its concentration of fluorides in the leaves. Due to the nature of the regolith there and the abundance of clays in the meander scars (which are quite visible in a software package for viewing the topography of the area), I think it could be a viable way to produce aluminum. Obviously, it would need to be assessed and implemented with the utmost environmental care, but feasible, nonetheless.[[User:James Clark|James Clark]] 12:29, 15 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;This is a really good start, James.  This is an aspect of open source processes and hardware that (to my knowledge) hasn&#039;t really been explored.  There are biochar videos out there, but nothing that talks about extraction of useful chemicals.  One question that might be explored is the impact of inputs on the process.  What can be extracted with hard woods vs softwoods vs. resinous woods vs. soft plant tissues like cut hay or grass clippings?  There are some mechanical processes that can be applied in addition to pyrolysis:  like pressing seeds/nuts/etc for oils.  Another suggestion would be a page that explains uses for chemicals easily extracted - methanols, acids, etc.  [[User:Mjn|Mjn]] 16:30, 15 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>James Clark: Created page with &quot;Possible OSE Protocol (under development and up for debate)   Regarding this, fractional distillation will work, and I will gladly work on this, if given the chance. I think the ...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Possible OSE Protocol (under development and up for debate)   Regarding this, fractional distillation will work, and I will gladly work on this, if given the chance. I think the ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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Regarding this, fractional distillation will work, and I will gladly work on this, if given the chance. I think the first chemical that should be sought first is hydrofluoric acid, due to the natural scarcity of fluorine, and its importance for the aluminum cycle. In the context of permaculture, tea (which happens to be one of my favorite beverages)is notable for its concentration of fluorides in the leaves. Due to the nature of the regolith there and the abundance of clays in the meander scars (which are quite visible in a software package for viewing the topography of the area), I think it could be a viable way to produce aluminum. Obviously, it would need to be assessed and implemented with the utmost environmental care, but feasible, nonetheless.[[User:James Clark|James Clark]] 12:29, 15 June 2011 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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