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		<title>John S at 18:35, 2 March 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-03-02T18:35:36Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Marcin Writes &amp;quot;the wiki is a mess. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY.&amp;quot; &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;source&lt;/del&gt;; [[Wiki_Guidelines]] - John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Marcin Writes &amp;quot;the wiki is a mess. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY.&amp;quot; &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;his explanation is here&lt;/ins&gt;; [[Wiki_Guidelines]] - John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Previously others wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Previously others wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>John S at 17:55, 2 March 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-03-02T17:55:48Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;My first impression there &lt;/del&gt;is &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;some redundancy with the same information in more than one place. Looking at the dates and frequency &lt;/del&gt;a &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;page is updated helps me decide to study it or keep scanning&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;The date the page was last edited is found by opening the history tab for that page&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I find benefit in what last happened, what the first efforts were and who was involved, when. To start, the &lt;/del&gt;[[&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Media:Global Village Construction Set&lt;/del&gt;]] &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;page has an excellent description of the OSE Mission and the [[Machine Index]] provides enough meat to be encouraging. These two pages, MGVCS amd Index combined into one page might be a excellent home page for OSE. I have studied OSE progress, concepts and searched for how others make some of these machines. 1- the videos provide excellent insight, 2- I&amp;#039;ve found when joining a collaborative effort, that what I think to be a good ideas are not the best ideas for the project. To get over this hump, I try to study 1- what others have done 2- how they have done it 3- what they say they intend to do and then offer some of my thoughts as possibilities to consider and adopt IF they find them to be acceptable and see a transition path. Also, when I offer a suggestion it means I am available to help carry that change forward and probably have the experience to be able to help smooth the way. Mostly I like to simplify things, reduce part counts, improve reliability, efficiency, etc. It seems that MicroHouse has been the focus for a couple of years where OEB and Tractor are getting attention this Spring 2015.  &lt;/del&gt;- John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Marcin Writes &amp;quot;the wiki &lt;/ins&gt;is a &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;mess&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;quot; source; &lt;/ins&gt;[[&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Wiki_Guidelines&lt;/ins&gt;]] - John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>John S at 23:09, 28 February 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-02-28T23:09:24Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;My first impression there is &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;much &lt;/del&gt;redundancy &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and looking &lt;/del&gt;at the dates and frequency a page is updated helps me decide to study it or keep scanning. The date the page was last edited is found by opening the history tab for that page. I find benefit in what last happened, what the first efforts were and who was involved, when. To start, the [[Media:Global Village Construction Set]] page has an excellent description of the OSE Mission and the [[Machine Index]] provides enough meat to be encouraging. These two pages, MGVCS amd Index combined into one page might be a excellent home page for OSE. I have studied OSE progress, concepts and searched for how others make some of these machines. 1- the videos provide excellent insight, 2- I&amp;#039;ve found when joining a collaborative effort, that what I think to be a good ideas are not the best ideas for the project. To get over this hump, I try to study 1- what others have done 2- how they have done it 3- what they say they intend to do and then offer some of my thoughts as possibilities to consider and adopt IF they find them to be acceptable and see a transition path. Also, when I offer a suggestion it means I am available to help carry that change forward and probably have the experience to be able to help smooth the way. Mostly I like to simplify things, reduce part counts, improve reliability, efficiency, etc. It seems that MicroHouse has been the focus for a couple of years where OEB and Tractor are getting attention this Spring 2015.  - John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;My first impression there is &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;some &lt;/ins&gt;redundancy &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;with the same information in more than one place. Looking &lt;/ins&gt;at the dates and frequency a page is updated helps me decide to study it or keep scanning. The date the page was last edited is found by opening the history tab for that page. I find benefit in what last happened, what the first efforts were and who was involved, when. To start, the [[Media:Global Village Construction Set]] page has an excellent description of the OSE Mission and the [[Machine Index]] provides enough meat to be encouraging. These two pages, MGVCS amd Index combined into one page might be a excellent home page for OSE. I have studied OSE progress, concepts and searched for how others make some of these machines. 1- the videos provide excellent insight, 2- I&amp;#039;ve found when joining a collaborative effort, that what I think to be a good ideas are not the best ideas for the project. To get over this hump, I try to study 1- what others have done 2- how they have done it 3- what they say they intend to do and then offer some of my thoughts as possibilities to consider and adopt IF they find them to be acceptable and see a transition path. Also, when I offer a suggestion it means I am available to help carry that change forward and probably have the experience to be able to help smooth the way. Mostly I like to simplify things, reduce part counts, improve reliability, efficiency, etc. It seems that MicroHouse has been the focus for a couple of years where OEB and Tractor are getting attention this Spring 2015.  - John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Previously others wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Previously others wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>John S at 23:08, 28 February 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-02-28T23:08:00Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;My first impression there is much redundancy and looking at the dates and frequency a page is updated helps me decide to study it or keep scanning. The date the page was last edited is found by opening the history tab for that page. I find benefit in what last happened, what the first efforts were and who was involved, when. To start, the [[Media:Global Village Construction Set]] page has an excellent description of the OSE Mission and the [[Machine Index]] provides enough meat to be encouraging. These two pages, MGVCS amd Index combined into one page might be a excellent home page for OSE. I have studied OSE progress, concepts and searched for how others make some of these machines. 1- the videos provide excellent insight, 2- &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the &lt;/del&gt;I&amp;#039;ve found when joining a collaborative effort, that what I think to be &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;my &lt;/del&gt;best ideas &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and experiences are as strange to them as theirs sometimes are to me&lt;/del&gt;. To get over this hump, I try to 1- &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;study &lt;/del&gt;what &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;they &lt;/del&gt;have done 2- how they have done it 3- what they say they intend to do and then offer some of my thoughts as possibilities to consider and adopt IF they find them to be acceptable and see a transition path. Also, when I offer a suggestion it means I am available to help carry that change forward and probably have the experience to be able to help smooth the way. Mostly I like to simplify things, reduce part counts, improve reliability, efficiency, etc. It seems that MicroHouse has been the focus for a couple of years where OEB and Tractor are getting attention this Spring 2015.  - John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;My first impression there is much redundancy and looking at the dates and frequency a page is updated helps me decide to study it or keep scanning. The date the page was last edited is found by opening the history tab for that page. I find benefit in what last happened, what the first efforts were and who was involved, when. To start, the [[Media:Global Village Construction Set]] page has an excellent description of the OSE Mission and the [[Machine Index]] provides enough meat to be encouraging. These two pages, MGVCS amd Index combined into one page might be a excellent home page for OSE. I have studied OSE progress, concepts and searched for how others make some of these machines. 1- the videos provide excellent insight, 2- I&amp;#039;ve found when joining a collaborative effort, that what I think to be &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a good ideas are not the &lt;/ins&gt;best ideas &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;for the project&lt;/ins&gt;. To get over this hump, I try to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;study &lt;/ins&gt;1- what &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;others &lt;/ins&gt;have done 2- how they have done it 3- what they say they intend to do and then offer some of my thoughts as possibilities to consider and adopt IF they find them to be acceptable and see a transition path. Also, when I offer a suggestion it means I am available to help carry that change forward and probably have the experience to be able to help smooth the way. Mostly I like to simplify things, reduce part counts, improve reliability, efficiency, etc. It seems that MicroHouse has been the focus for a couple of years where OEB and Tractor are getting attention this Spring 2015.  - John S  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Previously others wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Previously others wrote:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>John S</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:CEB_Press/Current_Downloads&amp;diff=126540&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>John S at 22:45, 28 February 2015</title>
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		<updated>2015-02-28T22:45:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:45, 28 February 2015&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;My first impression there is much redundancy and looking at the dates and frequency a page is updated helps me decide to study it or keep scanning. The date the page was last edited is found by opening the history tab for that page. I find benefit in what last happened, what the first efforts were and who was involved, when. To start, the [[Media:Global Village Construction Set]] page has an excellent description of the OSE Mission and the [[Machine Index]] provides enough meat to be encouraging. These two pages, MGVCS amd Index combined into one page might be a excellent home page for OSE. I have studied OSE progress, concepts and searched for how others make some of these machines. 1- the videos provide excellent insight, 2- the I&#039;ve found when joining a collaborative effort, that what I think to be my best ideas and experiences are as strange to them as theirs sometimes are to me. To get over this hump, I try to 1- study what they have done 2- how they have done it 3- what they say they intend to do and then offer some of my thoughts as possibilities to consider and adopt IF they find them to be acceptable and see a transition path. Also, when I offer a suggestion it means I am available to help carry that change forward and probably have the experience to be able to help smooth the way. Mostly I like to simplify things, reduce part counts, improve reliability, efficiency, etc. It seems that MicroHouse has been the focus for a couple of years where OEB and Tractor are getting attention this Spring 2015.  - John S &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Previously others wrote:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;You do realize that this is a totally retarded way of organizing the documentation for the CEB press?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;You do realize that this is a totally retarded way of organizing the documentation for the CEB press?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>John S</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Dorkmo: /* torrent */ new section</title>
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		<updated>2013-01-13T21:03:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;torrent: &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:03, 13 January 2013&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It would be much easier to just keep all this stuff in a git repository w/ README files, etc.  This takes care of all versioning, etc.  You can branch stuff off for various versions of the CEB or whatever.  Then if someone wants to build a CEB press, you just give them git url.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;It would be much easier to just keep all this stuff in a git repository w/ README files, etc.  This takes care of all versioning, etc.  You can branch stuff off for various versions of the CEB or whatever.  Then if someone wants to build a CEB press, you just give them git url.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== torrent ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;should we make all this into a torrent file? --[[User:Dorkmo|Dorkmo]] ([[User talk:Dorkmo|talk]]) 22:03, 13 January 2013 (CET)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dorkmo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:CEB_Press/Current_Downloads&amp;diff=86621&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Bubbapizza: Created page with &quot;You do realize that this is a totally retarded way of organizing the documentation for the CEB press?  It would be much easier to just keep all this stuff in a git repository ...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2013-01-13T16:54:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;You do realize that this is a totally retarded way of organizing the documentation for the CEB press?  It would be much easier to just keep all this stuff in a git repository ...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;You do realize that this is a totally retarded way of organizing the documentation for the CEB press?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It would be much easier to just keep all this stuff in a git repository w/ README files, etc.  This takes care of all versioning, etc.  You can branch stuff off for various versions of the CEB or whatever.  Then if someone wants to build a CEB press, you just give them git url.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Bubbapizza</name></author>
	</entry>
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