Talk:Design for Cleaning - Revision history

Eric: Minor Text Formatting Fix

2025-08-20T16:10:22Z

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	One issue come to think of it would be fabrication, Sapphire could be cut/polished etc with a Bonded Diamond]] , [[PCD]] , or [[MCD]] tool etc		One issue come to think of it would be fabrication, Sapphire could be cut/polished etc with a [[Bonded Diamond]] , [[PCD]] , or [[MCD]] tool etc

	Diamond will be hard to work with. Those [[Water Guided Laser Cutters]] / [[Microjets]] come to mind, but as of now are PRICEY (Also [[Machine Time]] in the places that DO have them for a project like this etc)		Diamond will be hard to work with. Those [[Water Guided Laser Cutters]] / [[Microjets]] come to mind, but as of now are PRICEY (Also [[Machine Time]] in the places that DO have them for a project like this etc)

Eric: Added some more information

2025-08-20T16:09:55Z

Added some more information

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			One issue come to think of it would be fabrication, Sapphire could be cut/polished etc with a Bonded Diamond]] , [[PCD]] , or [[MCD]] tool etc

			Diamond will be hard to work with. Those [[Water Guided Laser Cutters]] / [[Microjets]] come to mind, but as of now are PRICEY (Also [[Machine Time]] in the places that DO have them for a project like this etc)

			Also not just the cuttin/drilling, but polishing to a convex shape (if relevant) adds difficulty.

			--[[User:Eric\|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric\|talk]]) 16:09, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Eric: Added some thoughts of mine

2025-08-20T15:46:03Z

Added some thoughts of mine

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	Been a constant issue, but at least with most other debris ([[WMO]] , [[Diesel]] , [[Gasoline]] etc the solids content isn’t that much, and the smell is BAD, but not “dirty” (more of a chemical smell		Been a constant issue, but at least with most other debris ([[WMO]] , [[Diesel]] , [[Gasoline]] etc the solids content isn’t that much, and the smell is BAD, but not “dirty” (more of a chemical smell

	Main issue is these		Main issue is these have PILES of [[Greebling]] on the sides, and the tread on the bottom doesn’t clean up well. (Some sort of jig to hold a boot in place while you blast it with a [[pressure washer]] , and another pair of muck boots MAY do the job, but quick post-work self rinse doesn’t do much except get the big chunks, and cleanup has room for improvement)

			Main thoughts on boots are 1.) Better Design (Any available, also what to do if designing from scratch) 2.) Better Cleaning (Either tools (even a rigid bristle toothbrush may do well) or jigs/in some dream workspace one of those [[Walk Through Automatic Boot Washers]] they have at cleanrooms etc

			(Other thing to note is using a [[Boot Scraper]] by that door is GREAT, but just want “normal” dirt/mud on those, not rotting oil etc (Truck mounted ones are neat though and would suffice + a [[Truck Decontamination]] (aka carwash+internal wipedown and MAYBE new/cleaned air filters))



			The next grips/learning experience is [[Safety Glasses]]

			Been largely disappointed in even “nicer” Milwaukee ones etc so [[Open Source High End Safety Glasses]] is definitely a page to make

			(Thinking (thin, COTS preferable such as watch faces or phone screens) [[Sapphire]] or [[Diamond]] sheets laminated over polycarbonate. These would not scratch, even if coated in sand/grit and wiped down (unlike conventional anti-scratch films/coatings

			Due to the high thermal conductivity, especially with Diamond, having “heated defog” may be easily doable without [[Window Defog Wires]] (heat requirements need to be calculated, heat sink nature may complicate demand vs an insulator with latent heat)

			Also have all stainless steel hardware (so [[Salt Water]] or even cleaning with [[Caustic Degreaser]] would be no issue (although DIY/OS nature should make [[Spare Parts]] easier etc)

			Also Design for Cleaning in terms of nooks where debris hides

			[[Design for Disassembly]] in terms of using [[Threaded Inserts]] rather than [[Self Tapping Screws]] for the Hinge, AS WELL AS having an optional gasket such as some safety glasses have, but have it be screwed in, rather than Glue and/or [[Snap Tabs]] for longevity

			Designing with accidental “crushing” in mind would be ideal, but may be limited by form factor/materials/cost

			[[Flat Temple Safety Glasses]] to allow use of [[Over The Ear Hearing Protection]] is another ideal feature, although slight compromise on [[ergonomics]] / long term wear then)



			FINALLY Hard Hats

			Having a removable+dissasemblable ( [[Design for Disassembly]] ) [[Hard Hat Ratchet]] would be ideal

			Dirt/Grime can get into that internal mechanism and be hard to clean out

			Also long term much of those plastic gears strip off teeth/wear down, so a metal gear system would be nice

			Washable [[Hard Hat Liner]] / Fabric Straps would be nice as well

			Using [[Laser Engraved Labels]] / Releifs in the mold/Hot Stamps (if using [[Thermoplastics]] ) rather than labels which often come off with time and/or with Heavy Cleaning would be ideal as well



			Anywho, kind of rambling, but have been meaning to document that Safety Glasses Idea + wanted to write down my gripes/potential solutions for some of this gear design; as with that [[DEF]] designer disconnect bit i discussed a while back, having not just an engineering perspective but also “grunt dealing with the design” aspect is VERY helpful in design.



			(ps [[Architects Should Live in their Designs]] was an interesting perspective, form over function is less fun when you have to live/work in it etc)

			--[[User:Eric\|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric\|talk]]) 15:46, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Eric: Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

2025-08-20T15:18:30Z

Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

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			[[PPE Decontamination]] Time!, so cleaning off my Hard Hat + Glasses + Muck Boots from that [[DAF]] unit cleaning.

			Covered in a bit of that [[Grit]] / Oil Solids dirt, and reek of the place.

			Been a constant issue, but at least with most other debris ([[WMO]] , [[Diesel]] , [[Gasoline]] etc the solids content isn’t that much, and the smell is BAD, but not “dirty” (more of a chemical smell

			Main issue is these

Eric: Brought Everyone Up To Speed on what i just did and Plan to Do

2025-06-24T14:11:31Z

Brought Everyone Up To Speed on what i just did and Plan to Do

New page

This is one of those pages i make that feels almost snobby/overly analytical, so i HOPE i’m not coming across that way, but as someone currently doing work in Confined Space Cleaning / (Hazmat) Spill Cleanup, my job would be WAY easier if designers took my work into consideration, so as an ose design nerd just wanted to share some of these insights with everyone!

--[[User:Eric|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric|talk]]) 14:11, 24 June 2025 (UTC)