Talk:Job Satisfaction in Construction - Revision history

Eric: Minor Clarification

2023-05-11T20:10:49Z

Minor Clarification

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	#Poor Pay (Again depends on the jobsite, but some think that the people doing the "[[Dirty, Dangerous, and Demeaning \| dirty work]]" don't ''deserve'' proper pay, if not even more pay than some other jobs considered more dignified)		#Poor Pay (Again depends on the jobsite, but some think that the people doing the "[[Dirty, Dangerous, and Demeaning \| dirty work]]" don't ''deserve'' proper pay, if not even more pay than some other jobs considered more dignified)
	#Poor [[Working Conditions]]		#Poor [[Working Conditions]]
	#Toxic Work Environment		#(Socially) Toxic Work Environment
	Number 1 can be fixed by just paying people enough*, so looking up [[Cost of Living]] and determining a good wage from that		Number 1 can be fixed by just paying people enough*, so looking up [[Cost of Living]] and determining a good wage from that
	**Bit of a sidenote, but determining the cost of someone to live a [[Middle Class]] / [[Upper-Middle Class]] (Or rather lower-upper-middle, if you REALLY want to get pedantic lol), and having a calculator for that may be of use		**Bit of a sidenote, but determining the cost of someone to live a [[Middle Class]] / [[Upper-Middle Class]] (Or rather lower-upper-middle, if you REALLY want to get pedantic lol), and having a calculator for that may be of use
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	**But yeah, despite potentially costing money / needing more people working on a crew (Re [[Optimal Construction Crew Size]] and [[Overstaffing]] / [[Understaffing]] ), it is fixable		**But yeah, despite potentially costing money / needing more people working on a crew (Re [[Optimal Construction Crew Size]] and [[Overstaffing]] / [[Understaffing]] ), it is fixable
	*Number 3 is a bit harder due to interpersonal stuff being all complex, but again it is solvable (Re [[Emotional Literacy]] / [[DBT]] and [[Media Literacy]] )		*Number 3 is a bit harder due to interpersonal stuff being all complex, but again it is solvable (Re [[Emotional Literacy]] / [[DBT]] and [[Media Literacy]] )
			**Also just not tolerating any of the "ism's" / "obia's"
			**This can be difficult too with how ingrained in culture some of that can be, but ''at least'' getting everyone to "play nicely in the sandbox" is a must, albeit not perfect (Re "Southern Hospitality" / whatever word there is for where people are superficially fine, but there is some deep hatred / ism there in the subtext, and thus the situation is ''very'' uncomfotable still)

	--[[User:Eric\|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric\|talk]]) 20:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)		--[[User:Eric\|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric\|talk]]) 20:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Eric: Minor Readability Improvement

2023-05-11T20:08:20Z

Minor Readability Improvement

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	Short of Occasional "Grunt Work" i have done i have '''barely''' scratched the surface in the industry, but have been around quite a few people who've worked the trades for their whole lives so can sort of paraphrase their stories/thoughts into here, but i just though having that achkknowledged is important. I think the main downsides that people face are mainly:		Short of Occasional "Grunt Work" i have done i have '''barely''' scratched the surface in the industry, but have been around quite a few people who've worked the trades for their whole lives so can sort of paraphrase their stories/thoughts into here, but i just though having that achkknowledged is important.

			ANYHOW:

			I think the main downsides that people face are mainly:
	#Poor Pay (Again depends on the jobsite, but some think that the people doing the "[[Dirty, Dangerous, and Demeaning \| dirty work]]" don't ''deserve'' proper pay, if not even more pay than some other jobs considered more dignified)		#Poor Pay (Again depends on the jobsite, but some think that the people doing the "[[Dirty, Dangerous, and Demeaning \| dirty work]]" don't ''deserve'' proper pay, if not even more pay than some other jobs considered more dignified)
	#Poor [[Working Conditions]]		#Poor [[Working Conditions]]

Eric: Minor Text Formatting Fix

2023-05-11T20:07:52Z

Minor Text Formatting Fix

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	Short of Occasional "Grunt Work" i have done i have '''barely''' scratched the surface in the industry, but have been around quite a few people who've worked the trades for their whole lives so can sort of paraphrase their stories/thoughts into here, but i just though having that achkknowledged is important. I think the main downsides that people face are mainly:		Short of Occasional "Grunt Work" i have done i have '''barely''' scratched the surface in the industry, but have been around quite a few people who've worked the trades for their whole lives so can sort of paraphrase their stories/thoughts into here, but i just though having that achkknowledged is important. I think the main downsides that people face are mainly:
	##Poor Pay (Again depends on the jobsite, but some think that the people doing the "[[Dirty, Dangerous, and Demeaning \| dirty work]]" don't ''deserve'' proper pay, if not even more pay than some other jobs considered more dignified)		#Poor Pay (Again depends on the jobsite, but some think that the people doing the "[[Dirty, Dangerous, and Demeaning \| dirty work]]" don't ''deserve'' proper pay, if not even more pay than some other jobs considered more dignified)
	##Poor [[Working Conditions]]		#Poor [[Working Conditions]]
	##Toxic Work Environment		#Toxic Work Environment
	Number 1 can be fixed by just paying people enough*, so looking up [[Cost of Living]] and determining a good wage from that		Number 1 can be fixed by just paying people enough*, so looking up [[Cost of Living]] and determining a good wage from that
	**Bit of a sidenote, but determining the cost of someone to live a [[Middle Class]] / [[Upper-Middle Class]] (Or rather lower-upper-middle, if you REALLY want to get pedantic lol), and having a calculator for that may be of use		**Bit of a sidenote, but determining the cost of someone to live a [[Middle Class]] / [[Upper-Middle Class]] (Or rather lower-upper-middle, if you REALLY want to get pedantic lol), and having a calculator for that may be of use

Eric: Minor Text Formatting Fix

2023-05-11T20:07:15Z

Minor Text Formatting Fix

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	****A similar thing would be [[Fall Protection]] vs people Building the Empire State Building saying "This Will Always be a Risk" etc		****A similar thing would be [[Fall Protection]] vs people Building the Empire State Building saying "This Will Always be a Risk" etc
	**But yeah, despite potentially costing money / needing more people working on a crew (Re [[Optimal Construction Crew Size]] and [[Overstaffing]] / [[Understaffing]] ), it is fixable		**But yeah, despite potentially costing money / needing more people working on a crew (Re [[Optimal Construction Crew Size]] and [[Overstaffing]] / [[Understaffing]] ), it is fixable
	**Number 3 is a bit harder due to interpersonal stuff being all complex, but again it is solvable (Re [[Emotional Literacy]] / [[DBT]] and [[Media Literacy]] )		*Number 3 is a bit harder due to interpersonal stuff being all complex, but again it is solvable (Re [[Emotional Literacy]] / [[DBT]] and [[Media Literacy]] )

	--[[User:Eric\|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric\|talk]]) 20:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)		--[[User:Eric\|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric\|talk]]) 20:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Eric: Added some thoughts of mine

2023-05-11T20:06:51Z

Added some thoughts of mine

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Short of Occasional "Grunt Work" i have done i have '''barely''' scratched the surface in the industry, but have been around quite a few people who've worked the trades for their whole lives so can sort of paraphrase their stories/thoughts into here, but i just though having that achkknowledged is important. I think the main downsides that people face are mainly:
##Poor Pay (Again depends on the jobsite, but some think that the people doing the "[[Dirty, Dangerous, and Demeaning | dirty work]]" don't ''deserve'' proper pay, if not even more pay than some other jobs considered more dignified)
##Poor [[Working Conditions]]
##Toxic Work Environment
*Number 1 can be fixed by just *paying people enough*, so looking up [[Cost of Living]] and determining a good wage from that
**Bit of a sidenote, but determining the cost of someone to live a [[Middle Class]] / [[Upper-Middle Class]] (Or rather lower-upper-middle, if you REALLY want to get pedantic lol), and having a calculator for that may be of use
**Only challenge is if Small Business don't have the funding to do so, and Large Corporations can do some [[Anti-Competitive Business Practices]] due to them being able to "bleed money" for longer
***Granted to what degree this is done i'd need to read up more on, hell of a lot easier to raise the price of a product after selling it at a loss than to cut wages etc...
*Number 2 can be fixed by a mixture of [[Ergonomics]] and [[Mechanization]] to an extent, although getting up early, and (depending on the trade) working Rain or Shine / In Dirty Conditions is unavoidable to an extent
**However Limiting Work Hours to ''sane amounts'' (Re [[8 Hour Work Day]] ) (almost akin to [[Exposure Limits]] ) helps with that
**Also " [[Engineering Controls]] such as installation of [[Odor Control Systems]] or Heavily Cleaning the whatever pre-working on it can help
***With my "Introduction to Water Resources" class at FSCJ, we toured a [[Wastewater Treatment Plant]] (I have a bunch of photos i need to upload on me somewhere) and short of ''one room'' which essentially had the "strainers" for odd bits that get introduced into the system somehow (Essentially [[Un-Flushables) which that room was near impossible to breathe in levels of smelly, '''the entire plant didn't have much of any smell!'''. They basically had [[Fume Hood]] type things, that then lead to a [[Biofilter]] (Theirs was a [[Packed Column]] with some sort of microbes (algae if i remember correctly) that simply needed to be fertilized every so often, although they did mention using a [[Wood Chip Biofilter]] before that)
****My Grandpa on my Mom's Side was an [[Agricultural Extension Agent]] for [[OSU]] and went to all sorts of farms, Pig Farms were the worst supposedly (although i never visited one, honestly for the better commercial ones are often quite horrific, but ''i'm digressing from the point'' ), i have some videos on a playlist i'll probably add to the page on these systems eventually, but it is some current ag agent doing a tour and mentioning how there is little to no smell due to the system they installed and so on
****A similar thing would be [[Fall Protection]] vs people Building the Empire State Building saying "This Will Always be a Risk" etc
**But yeah, despite potentially costing money / needing more people working on a crew (Re [[Optimal Construction Crew Size]] and [[Overstaffing]] / [[Understaffing]] ), it is fixable
**Number 3 is a bit harder due to interpersonal stuff being all complex, but again it is solvable (Re [[Emotional Literacy]] / [[DBT]] and [[Media Literacy]] )

--[[User:Eric|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric|talk]]) 20:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)