https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ANickel-Iron_Battery%2FResearch_DevelopmentTalk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research Development - Revision history2026-04-16T19:06:20ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.39.13https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&diff=37513&oldid=prevRyan Lutz: moved Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research to Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research Development2011-08-26T22:43:07Z<p>moved <a href="/wiki/Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research" class="mw-redirect" title="Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research">Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research</a> to <a href="/wiki/Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development" title="Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research Development">Talk:Nickel-Iron Battery/Research Development</a></p>
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</table>Wesley brucehttps://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&diff=33904&oldid=prevMjn at 02:34, 19 July 20112011-07-19T02:34:27Z<p></p>
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</table>Mjnhttps://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&diff=33898&oldid=prevRon Broberg at 22:45, 18 July 20112011-07-18T22:45:04Z<p></p>
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</table>Ron Broberghttps://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&diff=33866&oldid=prevMarcin at 19:52, 18 July 20112011-07-18T19:52:20Z<p></p>
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</table>Marcinhttps://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nickel-Iron_Battery/Research_Development&diff=33859&oldid=prevRon Broberg at 19:15, 18 July 20112011-07-18T19:15:19Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Oh thanks, Wesley. Seen the note I added to the page. It was not intended to be a work of art, rather I was using the wiki as part of my workspace, integrating it into the process of what I was doing, instead of using it as a presentation space as is too often done, which in many cases omits important details. I believe that provides better transparency. Unfortunately some people are too afraid of being misinterpreted (as you are doing) or embarrassed to do this, which is partly why this place lacks transparency so badly. I have made a conscious decision not to spend much time on the OSE project anymore due to the management issues. [[User:Gregortheinventor|Gregor]] 09:31, 18 July 2011 (PDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Oh thanks, Wesley. Seen the note I added to the page. It was not intended to be a work of art, rather I was using the wiki as part of my workspace, integrating it into the process of what I was doing, instead of using it as a presentation space as is too often done, which in many cases omits important details. I believe that provides better transparency. Unfortunately some people are too afraid of being misinterpreted (as you are doing) or embarrassed to do this, which is partly why this place lacks transparency so badly. I have made a conscious decision not to spend much time on the OSE project anymore due to the management issues. [[User:Gregortheinventor|Gregor]] 09:31, 18 July 2011 (PDT)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gregor, I haven't been around very long, but I can see that there is a very strange mix of 'very complete' and 'very incomplete.' The steam engine is an example of the former. Any page relating to electronics is an example of the later. I certainly appreciate your Ni-Fe materials, but, yeah, it needs to be organized better. With the eyes of the innocent, it is obvious which of you have contributed to the topic and which offered insults. Hope you stick around some and I hope you don't mind some re-org of this page.</ins></div></td></tr>
</table>Ron Broberg