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		<title>71.60.194.239: /* Stirling engine viability */ update</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Stirling engine viability: &lt;/span&gt; update&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 03:17, 22 October 2009&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://www.youtube.com/user/GREENPOWERSCIENCE#p/u/19/W4VRb4vllB4 &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;GPS &lt;/del&gt;youtube]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* [http://www.youtube.com/user/GREENPOWERSCIENCE#p/u/19/W4VRb4vllB4 &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;GSP &lt;/ins&gt;youtube]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Oh wow now that I&amp;#039;m writing this I see the following:&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>71.60.194.239: new comment</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;new comment&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Stirling engine viability ==&lt;br /&gt;
Haha wow this page does need editing, put that on my to do list! Right-o! Anyhow, I&amp;#039;ve been searching around for a little stirling engine (haha &amp;quot;cult of hobbyists&amp;quot;) to give me, oh say 50w or 100w output. Doesn&amp;#039;t look like there&amp;#039;s anything like it on the market. My predicament is that I will have to pay about $900 to connect to utility electricity where I am now, so I want to take that money and instead invest in capital to make electricity for my home on-site, from utility natural gas, wood, paper, coal (lots of it lying around where I am), or fresnel lens on sunny days, etc etc... you get the idea. I use less than 200wH/day, and I could probably bring that down to 50wH over the next year (lower-power laptop is the key there) plus just go without. Would be hooking up the engine to a battery as though it were an array of PV panels, and then I have to figure out how to power my laptop on DC straight from the battery -- how do we cut out the alternator? Anyhow, separate subject and I&amp;#039;m a total noob in all things mechanical and electrical.&lt;br /&gt;
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Point is: I&amp;#039;ve seen a few around the old interwebs, and they seem to work, so I don&amp;#039;t know what Mr. Hislop is referring to at bottom of article. And yes, even 10% or less fuel-to-electricity efficiency would be fine with me on this score, because I have a lot of fuel, powered second-hand by the sun via my trees -- and I wouldn&amp;#039;t just blow all that heat out the window! CHP of course.&lt;br /&gt;
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SO, here&amp;#039;s the links. In particular, these hobbyists seem to have working models (Jim Dandy #1 wow!), and WhisperGen is making CHP for houses in the UK, and Mondragon [http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/242878 is in on] the European manufacturing rights. I hear &amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag%C3%B3n_Cooperative_Corporation Mondragon]&amp;quot;, and I got to think it&amp;#039;s technology that&amp;#039;s (A) profitable and (B) scalable to OSE purposes. Also, see in particular the Green Science Power dude, he&amp;#039;s a riot and seems to have armloads of little stirling and &amp;quot;steam&amp;quot; engines that work just fine.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.stirlingengine.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000019&amp;amp;topic_id=Power-producing+Stirling+engines&amp;amp;topic= long board discussion]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://starspin.com/stirlings/jimdp1-2.html hobbyist engines]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.starspin.com/stirlings/index.html ditto]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.youtube.com/user/GREENPOWERSCIENCE#p/u/19/W4VRb4vllB4 GPS youtube]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4VRb4vllB4 GPS youtube again]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW7j3ioLQEw&amp;amp;feature=channel GPS youtube again!]&lt;br /&gt;
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