White Gas - Revision history

Eric: Labeled the Watch Length of Some Attached Videos

2026-02-28T23:38:15Z

Labeled the Watch Length of Some Attached Videos

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	*On potential shortage/phaseout due to being largely obsolete:		*On potential shortage/phaseout due to being largely obsolete:
	**[https://www.reddit.com/r/flowarts/comments/1jp861i/camp_fuel_shortage/ A Reddit Post in the Context of Fire Poi/Baton Arts etc]		**[https://www.reddit.com/r/flowarts/comments/1jp861i/camp_fuel_shortage/ A Reddit Post in the Context of Fire Poi/Baton Arts etc]
	*[https://youtu.be/_PRUunYW9fY?si=cS3viLrlZz3FtcfG A Video by the YouTube Channel “Retro Tech & Electronics” Titled “Antique Coleman 425 Stove Testing Out Different Fuels for Performance” ]		*[https://youtu.be/_PRUunYW9fY?si=cS3viLrlZz3FtcfG A Video by the YouTube Channel “Retro Tech & Electronics” Titled “Antique Coleman 425 Stove Testing Out Different Fuels for Performance” ] ( ‘’’ ~21 Minute Watch’’’ )
	**They tested:		**They tested:
	***[[White Gas]] (the control (new) at ~18:30, and older staler white gas at ~16:40 timestamp)		***[[White Gas]] (the control (new) at ~18:30, and older staler white gas at ~16:40 timestamp)

Eric: Labeled the Watch Length of Some Attached Videos

2026-02-28T23:37:10Z

Labeled the Watch Length of Some Attached Videos

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	****This did require an external pre-heat of the [[Vapor Generator]] + fouled the generator long term, but otherwise worked fine once up to temperature		****This did require an external pre-heat of the [[Vapor Generator]] + fouled the generator long term, but otherwise worked fine once up to temperature
	***[[Denatured Alcohol]] and [[Isopropanol]] ( at ~01:50 Timestamp)		***[[Denatured Alcohol]] and [[Isopropanol]] ( at ~01:50 Timestamp)
	*[https://youtu.be/ucRWgQvjX98?si=9fnUoyuWCYuU9EHZ A Video by the YouTube Channel “Cutler’s Antiques” Titled “How long does Coleman fuel last? Let’s test a 50 year old can of white gas!” ]		*[https://youtu.be/ucRWgQvjX98?si=9fnUoyuWCYuU9EHZ A Video by the YouTube Channel “Cutler’s Antiques” Titled “How long does Coleman fuel last? Let’s test a 50 year old can of white gas!” ] ( ‘’’ ~21 Minute Watch ‘’’ )
	**They used a lantern for testing, and didn’t do much timing, so this was far more of a binary “it works/doesn’t work” + a qualitative smell+visual test, BUT interesting nonetheless		**They used a lantern for testing, and didn’t do much timing, so this was far more of a binary “it works/doesn’t work” + a qualitative smell+visual test, BUT interesting nonetheless
	**The old can was metal and had a metal stopper/seal press fit under the cap, so that probably helped with moisture+oxygen etc + [[Fractional Evaporation (Fuel Storage) ]] concerns somewhag cheating on the test		**The old can was metal and had a metal stopper/seal press fit under the cap, so that probably helped with moisture+oxygen etc + [[Fractional Evaporation (Fuel Storage) ]] concerns somewhag cheating on the test

Eric: Added some more information

2026-02-28T23:36:30Z

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	****This did require an external pre-heat of the [[Vapor Generator]] + fouled the generator long term, but otherwise worked fine once up to temperature		****This did require an external pre-heat of the [[Vapor Generator]] + fouled the generator long term, but otherwise worked fine once up to temperature
	***[[Denatured Alcohol]] and [[Isopropanol]] ( at ~01:50 Timestamp)		***[[Denatured Alcohol]] and [[Isopropanol]] ( at ~01:50 Timestamp)
			*[https://youtu.be/ucRWgQvjX98?si=9fnUoyuWCYuU9EHZ A Video by the YouTube Channel “Cutler’s Antiques” Titled “How long does Coleman fuel last? Let’s test a 50 year old can of white gas!” ]
			**They used a lantern for testing, and didn’t do much timing, so this was far more of a binary “it works/doesn’t work” + a qualitative smell+visual test, BUT interesting nonetheless
			**The old can was metal and had a metal stopper/seal press fit under the cap, so that probably helped with moisture+oxygen etc + [[Fractional Evaporation (Fuel Storage) ]] concerns somewhag cheating on the test

Eric: Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

2026-02-28T23:20:52Z

Saved Progress Mid-Long Edit

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	*On potential shortage/phaseout due to being largely obsolete:		*On potential shortage/phaseout due to being largely obsolete:
	**[https://www.reddit.com/r/flowarts/comments/1jp861i/camp_fuel_shortage/ A Reddit Post in the Context of Fire Poi/Baton Arts etc]		**[https://www.reddit.com/r/flowarts/comments/1jp861i/camp_fuel_shortage/ A Reddit Post in the Context of Fire Poi/Baton Arts etc]
			*[https://youtu.be/_PRUunYW9fY?si=cS3viLrlZz3FtcfG A Video by the YouTube Channel “Retro Tech & Electronics” Titled “Antique Coleman 425 Stove Testing Out Different Fuels for Performance” ]
			**They tested:
			***[[White Gas]] (the control (new) at ~18:30, and older staler white gas at ~16:40 timestamp)
			***Naphtha
			***[[E-10]] [[Gasoline]] (at ~12:30 timestamp)
			***[[Kerosene]] (at ~04:00 timestamp)
			****This did require an external pre-heat of the [[Vapor Generator]] + fouled the generator long term, but otherwise worked fine once up to temperature
			***[[Denatured Alcohol]] and [[Isopropanol]] ( at ~01:50 Timestamp)

Eric: Added some more information

2026-02-28T22:41:05Z

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	=Sourcing=		=Sourcing=
	==Coleman Brand==		==Proper White Gas==
			===Coleman Brand===
	*Often can be found in Walmarts		*Often can be found in Walmarts
	**[https://www.walmart.com/ip/15971465360?sid=a8a29a6a-fd52-47e1-9de6-f66a6cc78c3a A Walmart Listing for “Coleman Fuel 1 Gallon” ] ( ‘’’~14 USD online as of this edit’’’ )		**[https://www.walmart.com/ip/15971465360?sid=a8a29a6a-fd52-47e1-9de6-f66a6cc78c3a A Walmart Listing for “Coleman Fuel 1 Gallon” ] ( ‘’’~14 USD online as of this edit’’’ )
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	*[https://www.academy.com/p/coleman-premium-blend-32-oz-liquid-fuel A 32oz Can at Academy Sports+Outdoors]		*[https://www.academy.com/p/coleman-premium-blend-32-oz-liquid-fuel A 32oz Can at Academy Sports+Outdoors]

	==Crown==		===Crown===
	*Mentions having [[Metal Deactivators[]		*Mentions having [[Metal Deactivators[]
	*[https://www.amazon.com/PACKAGING-SERVICE-CO-Camp-Fuel/dp/B007CMDLV4 An Amazon Listing for “PACKAGING SERVICE CO - CFM64 Camp Fuel, 32 oz” ]		*[https://www.amazon.com/PACKAGING-SERVICE-CO-Camp-Fuel/dp/B007CMDLV4 An Amazon Listing for “PACKAGING SERVICE CO - CFM64 Camp Fuel, 32 oz” ]
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	**Ie large filled containers of gas are hard to ship?		**Ie large filled containers of gas are hard to ship?

	==MSR==		===MSR===
	*[https://cascadedesigns.com/products/superfuel The MSR Page on the Product]		*[https://cascadedesigns.com/products/superfuel The MSR Page on the Product]
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	***Also there is the potential for Material Compatibility Issues (Re [[G100UL]] etc)		***Also there is the potential for Material Compatibility Issues (Re [[G100UL]] etc)
	*[https://www.neptunemountaineering.com/products/fuel-super-1qt?variant=42216497971335&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22495612710&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwYrNBhDcARIsAGo3u31TWhYNvVKdUPetr57rakh1lcJ4Y64p1naVKzqtkfWHaPkPy0Q-ArMaAqGJEALw_wcB A Neptune Mountaineering Listing Titled “MSR SUPER FUEL 1 QT” ] ( ‘’’About 16 USD each as of this edit’’’ )		*[https://www.neptunemountaineering.com/products/fuel-super-1qt?variant=42216497971335&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22495612710&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwYrNBhDcARIsAGo3u31TWhYNvVKdUPetr57rakh1lcJ4Y64p1naVKzqtkfWHaPkPy0Q-ArMaAqGJEALw_wcB A Neptune Mountaineering Listing Titled “MSR SUPER FUEL 1 QT” ] ( ‘’’About 16 USD each as of this edit’’’ )

			===Is there a Shortage/Phase Out===
			*To-Do:
			**Determine if the current listings are [[New Old Stock]] etc
			***Could potentially email each company for official comment?
			*Could TRY and ask around / dig to see if anyone knows about it (if working in sales/logistics, or hopefully even the damn factory where they fill the cans!)

	==Potential Substitutes==		==Potential Substitutes==

Eric: Added some more information

2026-02-28T22:38:14Z

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	***GRANTED product reverse engineering solely from a SDS, ESPECIALLY when they hide info like exact percentages etc may not be right; a proper [[HPLC]] / [[Mass Spectrometry]] test etc would be ideal		***GRANTED product reverse engineering solely from a SDS, ESPECIALLY when they hide info like exact percentages etc may not be right; a proper [[HPLC]] / [[Mass Spectrometry]] test etc would be ideal
	***Also there is the potential for Material Compatibility Issues (Re [[G100UL]] etc)		***Also there is the potential for Material Compatibility Issues (Re [[G100UL]] etc)
			*[https://www.neptunemountaineering.com/products/fuel-super-1qt?variant=42216497971335&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22495612710&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwYrNBhDcARIsAGo3u31TWhYNvVKdUPetr57rakh1lcJ4Y64p1naVKzqtkfWHaPkPy0Q-ArMaAqGJEALw_wcB A Neptune Mountaineering Listing Titled “MSR SUPER FUEL 1 QT” ] ( ‘’’About 16 USD each as of this edit’’’ )

	==Potential Substitutes==		==Potential Substitutes==

Eric: Added some more information

2026-02-28T22:31:30Z

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 ***GRANTED product reverse engineering solely from a SDS, ESPECIALLY when they hide info like exact percentages etc may not be right;  a proper [[HPLC]] / [[Mass Spectrometry]] test etc would be ideal
 ***Also there is the potential for Material Compatibility Issues (Re [[G100UL]] etc)
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Eric: Added some more information

2026-02-28T22:25:35Z

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	**”CONTAINS:95-100% LIGHT HYDROTREATED DISTILLATE (68410-97-9)[270-093-2]”		**”CONTAINS:95-100% LIGHT HYDROTREATED DISTILLATE (68410-97-9)[270-093-2]”
	**Also sidenote, despite getting rid of the waaaaaaaay cooler MSDS acronym, DAMN isn’t a modern [[SDS]] easier on the eyes lol		**Also sidenote, despite getting rid of the waaaaaaaay cooler MSDS acronym, DAMN isn’t a modern [[SDS]] easier on the eyes lol
			**According to [https://www.barringredients.com/Content/PDFs/GVM46-KS-VM&P-Naphtha-SDS.pdf This Klean Strip Brand of] [[VM&P Naphtha]] is essentially the same thing?
			***GRANTED product reverse engineering solely from a SDS, ESPECIALLY when they hide info like exact percentages etc may not be right; a proper [[HPLC]] / [[Mass Spectrometry]] test etc would be ideal
			***Also there is the potential for Material Compatibility Issues (Re [[G100UL]] etc)

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Eric: Added some more information

2026-02-28T22:19:37Z

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	****The pure claim is a bit odd since neither [[Naphtha]] or [[Gasoline]] are a “pure” substance; they are all a mix of chemicals with some specified/similar properties (Boiling Point, Octane and/of Vapor Pressure, etc)		****The pure claim is a bit odd since neither [[Naphtha]] or [[Gasoline]] are a “pure” substance; they are all a mix of chemicals with some specified/similar properties (Boiling Point, Octane and/of Vapor Pressure, etc)
	*[https://zenstoves.net/MSDS/MSDS-SuperFuel.doc A 2004 MSDS for MSR Superfuel]		*[https://zenstoves.net/MSDS/MSDS-SuperFuel.doc A 2004 MSDS for MSR Superfuel]
			**”CONTAINS:95-100% LIGHT HYDROTREATED DISTILLATE (68410-97-9)[270-093-2]”
			**Also sidenote, despite getting rid of the waaaaaaaay cooler MSDS acronym, DAMN isn’t a modern [[SDS]] easier on the eyes lol

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Eric: Added some more information

2026-02-28T22:16:15Z

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	****Also potentially doesn’t have Rust Inhibitors then, for better or for worse?		****Also potentially doesn’t have Rust Inhibitors then, for better or for worse?
	****The pure claim is a bit odd since neither [[Naphtha]] or [[Gasoline]] are a “pure” substance; they are all a mix of chemicals with some specified/similar properties (Boiling Point, Octane and/of Vapor Pressure, etc)		****The pure claim is a bit odd since neither [[Naphtha]] or [[Gasoline]] are a “pure” substance; they are all a mix of chemicals with some specified/similar properties (Boiling Point, Octane and/of Vapor Pressure, etc)
			*[https://zenstoves.net/MSDS/MSDS-SuperFuel.doc A 2004 MSDS for MSR Superfuel]

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