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*'''400+ watt 8" beds do not exist - [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Silicone-Heating-pad-Hot-bed-Size-200-200mm-220-220-300-300mm-400-400mm-12V-110V/32884436329.html?spm=2114.search0604.8.4.42af6001eRTDz3&transAbTest=ae803_3]. It is questionable whether this one has 500W on 120V - [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3d-printer-Accessories-200X200mm-500W-220V-110V-24V-Cube-Flexible-Silicone-Heater-Prusa-i3-RepRap-3D/32821470873.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000023.2.2cd155596aYW3r]. Closest is the Ultimaker clone - [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/200X240mm-500W-120V-Ultimaker-2-Clone-3D-Printer-Heated-Bed-Keenovo-Silicone-Heater-Pad/32574665339.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.8.418f2e71ATHbuV&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10130_10068_10890_10547_319_10546_317_10548_10545_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_6,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=6c802c37-3a1e-4049-974f-426d28b2a55c-1&algo_pvid=6c802c37-3a1e-4049-974f-426d28b2a55c&transAbTest=ae803_3]
*'''400+ watt 8" beds do not exist - [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Silicone-Heating-pad-Hot-bed-Size-200-200mm-220-220-300-300mm-400-400mm-12V-110V/32884436329.html?spm=2114.search0604.8.4.42af6001eRTDz3&transAbTest=ae803_3]. It is questionable whether this one has 500W on 120V - [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3d-printer-Accessories-200X200mm-500W-220V-110V-24V-Cube-Flexible-Silicone-Heater-Prusa-i3-RepRap-3D/32821470873.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000023.2.2cd155596aYW3r]. Closest is the Ultimaker clone - [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/200X240mm-500W-120V-Ultimaker-2-Clone-3D-Printer-Heated-Bed-Keenovo-Silicone-Heater-Pad/32574665339.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.8.418f2e71ATHbuV&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10130_10068_10890_10547_319_10546_317_10548_10545_10696_453_10084_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_6,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=6c802c37-3a1e-4049-974f-426d28b2a55c-1&algo_pvid=6c802c37-3a1e-4049-974f-426d28b2a55c&transAbTest=ae803_3]
*8" bed on amazon is $84. [https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-x8-500W-110V-KEENOVO-Silicone-Heater-3D-Printer-Heat-Bed-Digital-Controller/271835537775?hash=item3f4aa9216f:g:u2wAAOSwUdlWdUSM]
*8" bed on amazon is $84. [https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-x8-500W-110V-KEENOVO-Silicone-Heater-3D-Printer-Heat-Bed-Digital-Controller/271835537775?hash=item3f4aa9216f:g:u2wAAOSwUdlWdUSM]
*8" bed on Aliexpress is $45 - [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Keenovo-Silicone-Heater-3D-Printer-Heater-Better-Replacement-of-Reprap-PCB-Heater-Heatbed-200-200mm-500W/1628343302.html]
*Expensive 12" on amazon - [https://www.amazon.com/approx-KEENOVO-Universal-Flexible-Silicone/dp/B00V81ZI70]
*Expensive 12" on amazon - [https://www.amazon.com/approx-KEENOVO-Universal-Flexible-Silicone/dp/B00V81ZI70]
*Silicone rubber sheet - to 450F - [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rubber-Cal-Silicone-1-16-in-x-36-in-x-12-in-Translucent-Commercial-Grade-60A-Rubber-Sheet-20-119-0062-36-012/304273403] - $6/sf
*Silicone rubber sheet - to 450F - [https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rubber-Cal-Silicone-1-16-in-x-36-in-x-12-in-Translucent-Commercial-Grade-60A-Rubber-Sheet-20-119-0062-36-012/304273403] - $6/sf

Revision as of 18:15, 17 April 2019

About

  • OSE Reasons for using a nichrome 120V bed are scalability and lower cost for large beds.
  • Reason for DIY nichrome beds is clear for larger beds, which would be rather expensive.
  • Significant testing is needed for a safe method. Fiberglass coated wire, insulated bed, clamp-on as opposed to double sided tape is preferred for higher temperature printing. For small beds, we can make whatever size we need.
  • Hackaday article - [1]

Sourcing

Pad

  • 400+ watt 8" beds do not exist - [2]. It is questionable whether this one has 500W on 120V - [3]. Closest is the Ultimaker clone - [4]
  • 8" bed on amazon is $84. [5]
  • 8" bed on Aliexpress is $45 - [6]
  • Expensive 12" on amazon - [7]
  • Silicone rubber sheet - to 450F - [8] - $6/sf
  • 10x10" heatbed aliexpress 500W - $10 - [9]
  • 200W 8x8, $13 - [10]

Silicone Rubber Sheet

  • Silicone rubber sheet - 20x20", 1 mm - $10 - [11]
  • McMaster - <$5/sf for 1/32" thick - [12]

Double Sided Tape

Single Sided Tape

  • Kapton tape, 4"x100ft - $25 - [14]
  • Enough for 300 small beds (4"), or 33 12" beds.

Coated Nichrome Wire

Uncoated Nichrome Wire

  • Need 30 Ohm resistance for the length of wire at 120V to get 480W, for P=IV, V=IR, I=V/R -> P=V^2/R = 120^2/30 according to Electrical Power Calculator.

Sleeving

  • 20 cents/foot, 1/16" ID - [15]
  • Wire sleeving - [16] - 15 cents/foot for 16 gauge.

Other Options

  • Carbon fiber is also used as a heating wire - [17]. Interesting. But it appears it can only do 15W/meter? Why is it limited? Limitation appears to be encapsulating materials - [18]