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*Tesla warranties cars for 8 years or 150k miles, with 70% of battery life left. [https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty]. That is pretty amazing. |
Revision as of 19:16, 1 April 2020
Initial Notes
- 3kW hr of energy storage at 8 bar requires 65 cubic meters of volume - [1]. Low Tech Magazine on Compressed Air Storage.
- This is 510 cubic meters. But air is free.
- But - if you use high pressure, you can reduce that volume down to 300 bar simply using a $300, 1800W Scuba compressor. (can this handle methane or hydrogen? )
- Scuba compressor on AliExpress - $300 - [2]
- 80 cu ft tanks cost $200. That is 2 cubic meters. They are rated for 3000 psi. Standard is 200 bar [3]
- For DIY - take schedule 80 steel pipe.
- 510 cubic meters reduced by 200x is 2.5 cubic meters or 90 cu ft
- Take 12" Schedule 160 pipe at 2700 psi rating [4].
- A 20' stick of this pipe gets us 15 cubic feet. Need 6 of these pipes to provide 3 kWhr of energy. That pipe is over 100 lb/foot!
- Would need 3kWhr PV array to generate the pumping power if we assume 16% overall storage efficiency. This storage efficiency is brute force - would need to look for more efficient expanders. But 6 of these are 12000 lb of steel!
- Solution: (1) go to slightly lower pressures. (2) Possibly 3D print plastic pipe. (3) Use automotive high pressure tanks. (4) Use more efficient systems - improve from 16% officiency to 50% efficiency or up to 85% using methods discussed in Low Tech Magazine link above
- Schedule 80, 8" pipe may be better- [5] - weight of 43 lb/foot. 1/2" wall.
- Or Schedule 40 8" pipe - 1000 psi - 30 lbs/ft [6] - $600 in cost per 20 foot stick.
Storage Vessels
Cost per 1kWhr of storage compared to $300/kW/3 years.
Steel Pipe
Plastic Pipe
Other Scumbags
Notes
- Tesla warranties cars for 8 years or 150k miles, with 70% of battery life left. [7]. That is pretty amazing.