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Hash tag plandemic: why do people believe the incredible?
=Basics=
 
*Around May 2020, a Video was Spread about a Conspiracy Theory that COVID-19 was lab created? (still unsure on full claim), and that various drugs already existed to treat it, but were being stopped by corruption
*Hash tag plandemic: why do people believe the incredible?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-people-believe-in-a-plandemic/2020/05/08/3b4e8962-915d-11ea-a0bc-4e9ad4866d21_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-people-believe-in-a-plandemic/2020/05/08/3b4e8962-915d-11ea-a0bc-4e9ad4866d21_story.html
*Article is not profound on answers.
*Look at [[Mental Models]] for additional insight on the topic.


Article is not profound on answers.


Look at [[Mental Models]] for additional insight on the topic.
This is all '''PSUEDOSCIENCE AND ANTI-VACCINATION CONSPIRACY THEORIES''', and thus can be ignored and looked at to reflect on why we think this way in times of crisis.
*Also is a good opertunity to spot out the main ways people spread falsehoods like this:
**Ommiting facts
**various forms of "bad" journalism:
***Not asking questions with any real substance/not asking any "hard hitting" questions/baited questions etc
**Editing Styles (very non neutral, dramatic music in the backround)**Not posting sources
**This section needs work


=On the People in the Video and Their Credability=
*Supposedly the first study the person did wasn't replicateable (ie they never really did credible work)
*They stated "coronavirus is actually secretly caused by a bad strain of flu shot that was circulating between 2013 and 2015. Masks will help “activate” the virus and reinfect a mask-wearer over and over, she claimed." need to get source of quote
*said bill gates is BAD for public health? (i hate millionaires etc, but almost wiping out Guinea worm is bad?) -paraphrasig


'''VERY BAD PSUEDOSCIENCE AND ANTI-VAX NESS, don't fall for it, data below'''


=Trashcan=


https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/diseases/forgot-14-diseases.html


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits
Also in the video the "interviewer" didn't ask very good questions many were baited, or just throwing a bone to her, ie '''Bad Journalism at best, enabling dangerous falsehood at worst'''
 
*They also never asked for proof, never asked other people to see what they thought even.  Not that there is always some "both sides" arguement, but questioning ONLY the accused won't solve the mystery, because people can lie (radical concept, that THEY are trying to point out?)
corruption IS something to call out, B u t
*Reccomending not wearing masks, which especially with such an airborne virus is the exact opposite of what should be done (btw most masks aren't to protect the user from others, but to catch and reduce the infected individual's coughs, sneezes etc, akin to covering your mouth with an elbow)
 
"coronavirus is actually secretly caused by a bad strain of flu shot that was circulating between 2013 and 2015. Masks will help “activate” the virus and reinfect a mask-wearer over and over, she claimed."
 
still digging, but she seems to have gone down the facebook anti-vax rabbit hole


=On Hydroxychloroquine being a "game changer" / "cure"=
*hydroxycloroquine can cause heart issues, so much so that it often requires monitoring and doctor approval i think, will dig for more info
*also people panic-buying it made it unavailable for people with lupis etc
*and the study that showed hope Threw out the people that got sick from the data set
*Still needs more research, but so far all other (double check this) replications prove it to do nothing, or cause more harm (side effects like the aformentioned cardiac issues (needs to be backed up)
*A person in that video also said:
"hydroxycloroquine and zinc" are working GREAT for patients, and then asked "will there be a double blind of YOUR VACCEINE" -paraphrasing
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine The Wikipedia Page on Hydroxychloroquine]
*[https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/diseases/forgot-14-diseases.html Link on horrid diseases we had to deal with, and many have never heard of due to vaccine's effectiveness] -this is the main reason these thoughts can happen, we know the bads of now, but not what the vaccienes do.  If you don't know any babies dying from wouping cough, why make your baby cry with a shot? understandable, but dangerous
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits The Wikipedia Page on the "main person" in this video.  Same level of scientific credability as the vaccienes = autism person, also love how that train of though implies a dead child due to disease is better than a child with ASD...
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va6j4JITJoE A (slightly outdated?) video on COVID-19 and anti malarial drugs]


said bill gates is BAD for public health? (i hate millionaires etc, but almost wiping out Guinea worm is bad?)
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
supposedly the first study wasn't replicatable (ie NEVER did credible work?)
A person in that video also said:
"hydroxycloroquine and zinc" are working GREAT for patients, and then asked "will there be a double blind of YOUR VACCEINE"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxychloroquine
Also in the video the "interviewer" didn't ask very good questions many were baited, or just throwing a bone to her
reccomending not wearing masks, which especially with such an airborne virus
truth is dead
at least it's not the people burning down 5g towers...
*hydroxycloroquine can cause heart issues, so much so that it often requires monitoring and doctor approval i think, will dig for more info
also people panic-buying it made it unavailable for people with lupis etc
and the study that showed hope Threw out the people that got sick from the data set
and all sorts of sketchy shit
struggling to make ppe, and actually make the cdc get to work, but 5G and Vaccines aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
go in the street in large groups and yell ( '''while spitting droplets''' ) about it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va6j4JITJoE
alrighty ending my rant lol

Latest revision as of 01:53, 10 May 2020

Basics

  • Around May 2020, a Video was Spread about a Conspiracy Theory that COVID-19 was lab created? (still unsure on full claim), and that various drugs already existed to treat it, but were being stopped by corruption
  • Hash tag plandemic: why do people believe the incredible?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-people-believe-in-a-plandemic/2020/05/08/3b4e8962-915d-11ea-a0bc-4e9ad4866d21_story.html

  • Article is not profound on answers.
  • Look at Mental Models for additional insight on the topic.


This is all PSUEDOSCIENCE AND ANTI-VACCINATION CONSPIRACY THEORIES, and thus can be ignored and looked at to reflect on why we think this way in times of crisis.

  • Also is a good opertunity to spot out the main ways people spread falsehoods like this:
    • Ommiting facts
    • various forms of "bad" journalism:
      • Not asking questions with any real substance/not asking any "hard hitting" questions/baited questions etc
    • Editing Styles (very non neutral, dramatic music in the backround)**Not posting sources
    • This section needs work

On the People in the Video and Their Credability

  • Supposedly the first study the person did wasn't replicateable (ie they never really did credible work)
  • They stated "coronavirus is actually secretly caused by a bad strain of flu shot that was circulating between 2013 and 2015. Masks will help “activate” the virus and reinfect a mask-wearer over and over, she claimed." need to get source of quote
  • said bill gates is BAD for public health? (i hate millionaires etc, but almost wiping out Guinea worm is bad?) -paraphrasig



Also in the video the "interviewer" didn't ask very good questions many were baited, or just throwing a bone to her, ie Bad Journalism at best, enabling dangerous falsehood at worst

  • They also never asked for proof, never asked other people to see what they thought even. Not that there is always some "both sides" arguement, but questioning ONLY the accused won't solve the mystery, because people can lie (radical concept, that THEY are trying to point out?)
  • Reccomending not wearing masks, which especially with such an airborne virus is the exact opposite of what should be done (btw most masks aren't to protect the user from others, but to catch and reduce the infected individual's coughs, sneezes etc, akin to covering your mouth with an elbow)

On Hydroxychloroquine being a "game changer" / "cure"

  • hydroxycloroquine can cause heart issues, so much so that it often requires monitoring and doctor approval i think, will dig for more info
  • also people panic-buying it made it unavailable for people with lupis etc
  • and the study that showed hope Threw out the people that got sick from the data set
  • Still needs more research, but so far all other (double check this) replications prove it to do nothing, or cause more harm (side effects like the aformentioned cardiac issues (needs to be backed up)
  • A person in that video also said:

"hydroxycloroquine and zinc" are working GREAT for patients, and then asked "will there be a double blind of YOUR VACCEINE" -paraphrasing

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral