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*Largest force comparison- 15,000 or | *Largest force comparison- 15,000 in lb or 173 kg m. (1730 Nm) for the [[45.6 Cu In Hydraulic Motor]] that we use in [[LifeTrac]] | ||
=Shredding Rate= | |||
*Precious plastic shredder - what is shredding rate of precious plastic shredder? 3kw, 50kg/hr. [https://preciousplastic.com/starterkits/showcase/shredder.html] | |||
*By comparison, we have 5W steppers. [[Minebea_Stepper_Motor_Specs]] | |||
*This allows us for 3000/5=600x less throughput. This means that for 12 hour run time, we get 1 kg of shred. | |||
*This is minimal, but doable for production or 2 filament spools/day. This means. $1200 revenue/month if selling spools at $20/spool. | |||
*This is a mere 5W. Use 100W - and get 10x-20x the production rate - of 20-40 spools/day. That is a potential business. | |||
=First Order Shaft Torque Calculations= | |||
*1" shafts made of mild steel would break at 3000 ft lb of torque (ref?) | |||
*Minimum torque requirement 200 ft lb, or 28 kg m. This is 1/6 the strongest motor. | |||
*[[Precious Plastic Shredder]] calls for 3 kg m from [[Lyman_Filament_Maker_Calculations#More]]. But that is old - and apparently not enough. The PP Pro shredder calls for 100 kg-m torque. | |||
=Motor Torque= | |||
*[[Motor Torque Calculator]] says about 1 kg m for 3000 rpm with 3kW drive as in [[Treadmill Motor]]. Compare to 173 kg m for strongest torque relevant to tractor drive as in [[15000 In Lb Motors]]. | |||
*Our goal is in between for now, 30 kg m. Reduction of only 30x to 100 RPM. | |||
=Geardown= | |||
==Belt Geardown== | |||
*Serpentine belt on D=1.3" shaft of [[Treadmill Motor]] | |||
=Motor Choices= | |||
Try a treadmill motor (3kW) and a drill motor (100W). | |||
*Brushed motor is 75-80% efficient. [https://www.google.com/search?q=efficiency+of+brushed+motor&oq=efficiency+of+brushed+motor&aqs=chrome..69i57.4377j0j7&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8] | |||
*We can try a small DC motor, 30W. This yields a theoretical 12 kg per 12 hour day grind rate, which is just about correct. [https://www.amazon.com/AUTOTOOLHOME-Torque-Traxxas-Wheels-Electric/dp/B01M58POHF/ref=psdc_306577011_t1_B01L6EKGGQ] | |||
*Ex. JYCRS390H - [https://www.amazon.com/AUTOTOOLHOME-Torque-Traxxas-Wheels-Electric/dp/B01M58POHF/ref=psdc_306577011_t1_B01L6EKGGQ]. Not 30W. Appears to be 5W - [https://www.amazon.com/AUTOTOOLHOME-Electric-Drill-Motor-Drills/dp/B01LZYWFE4] | |||
'''See [[Motor Selection Criteria]]''' | |||
=Cost= | |||
*Square tube - 3/8" wall - $27/foot. (1/2" wall weighs about 27 lb) | |||
*Round tube, 5 mm wall (0.188") - $25/ft [http://www.metalbythefoot.com/] | |||
*1" pipe, about $2.60 per foot (1.25 OD, 0.125 wall) - [http://www.metalbythefoot.com/] | |||
*2" schedule 40 - $35 at Menards [https://www.menards.com/main/plumbing/pipe-fittings/black-pipe-fittings/threaded-black-steel-pipe-schedule-40/gs3410btbe/plumbing/pipe-fittings/black-pipe-fittings/threaded-black-steel-pipe-schedule-40/gs110btbe/plumbing/pipe-fittings/black-pipe-fittings/threaded-black-steel-pipe-schedule-40/gs210btbe/p-1444437590092.htm] | |||
=Internal Links= | |||
*[[Precious Plastic Shredder]] | |||
*[[Open Source Shredder]] | |||
[[Category:Shredder]] [[Category:Precious Plastic]] | |||
Latest revision as of 22:23, 23 June 2020
Calculations
- Largest force comparison- 15,000 in lb or 173 kg m. (1730 Nm) for the 45.6 Cu In Hydraulic Motor that we use in LifeTrac
Shredding Rate
- Precious plastic shredder - what is shredding rate of precious plastic shredder? 3kw, 50kg/hr. [1]
- By comparison, we have 5W steppers. Minebea_Stepper_Motor_Specs
- This allows us for 3000/5=600x less throughput. This means that for 12 hour run time, we get 1 kg of shred.
- This is minimal, but doable for production or 2 filament spools/day. This means. $1200 revenue/month if selling spools at $20/spool.
- This is a mere 5W. Use 100W - and get 10x-20x the production rate - of 20-40 spools/day. That is a potential business.
First Order Shaft Torque Calculations
- 1" shafts made of mild steel would break at 3000 ft lb of torque (ref?)
- Minimum torque requirement 200 ft lb, or 28 kg m. This is 1/6 the strongest motor.
- Precious Plastic Shredder calls for 3 kg m from Lyman_Filament_Maker_Calculations#More. But that is old - and apparently not enough. The PP Pro shredder calls for 100 kg-m torque.
Motor Torque
- Motor Torque Calculator says about 1 kg m for 3000 rpm with 3kW drive as in Treadmill Motor. Compare to 173 kg m for strongest torque relevant to tractor drive as in 15000 In Lb Motors.
- Our goal is in between for now, 30 kg m. Reduction of only 30x to 100 RPM.
Geardown
Belt Geardown
- Serpentine belt on D=1.3" shaft of Treadmill Motor
Motor Choices
Try a treadmill motor (3kW) and a drill motor (100W).
- Brushed motor is 75-80% efficient. [2]
- We can try a small DC motor, 30W. This yields a theoretical 12 kg per 12 hour day grind rate, which is just about correct. [3]
- Ex. JYCRS390H - [4]. Not 30W. Appears to be 5W - [5]
Cost
- Square tube - 3/8" wall - $27/foot. (1/2" wall weighs about 27 lb)
- Round tube, 5 mm wall (0.188") - $25/ft [6]
- 1" pipe, about $2.60 per foot (1.25 OD, 0.125 wall) - [7]
- 2" schedule 40 - $35 at Menards [8]