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*How does Patriot compare to S400? S400 is apparently half the cost, and looks much better on paper. [https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-10-10/A-comparison-of-Russia-s-S-400-against-U-S-Patriot-sales-KG9wapLDFu/index.html]
*How does Patriot compare to S400? S400 is apparently half the cost, and looks much better on paper. [https://news.cgtn.com/news/2019-10-10/A-comparison-of-Russia-s-S-400-against-U-S-Patriot-sales-KG9wapLDFu/index.html]
*Patriots - too expensive and complicated for now? [https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/patriot-missiles-aren%E2%80%99t-answer-ukrainian-air-defense-197556]
*Patriots - too expensive and complicated for now? [https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/patriot-missiles-aren%E2%80%99t-answer-ukrainian-air-defense-197556]
*Flood of man-portable antiarmor [https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44595/shipments-of-anti-armor-missiles-are-flowing-to-ukraine-heres-whats-in-them]


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Revision as of 08:11, 28 March 2022

Numbers

  • Russian Economy - Russia is 11th at 1.6T. [1]. SA is #1 at about 10x that, $20T. Ukraine is $110B.
  • Military spending - USA 800B, Russia 60B [2]
  • Military population - Ukraine 200k, with 900k reserves [3]. Infographic - [4]. Ukraine has 1M, Russia 3M, but Russia has 1M active. [5]
  • What does Ukrainian army cosist of at end fo March? 300k active duty, 150k have been called from reserves [6]
  • March 21, 22 - Europe provides $1.1B in military aid. [7]
  • UK sends another 6k antiarmor/plane missiles to Ukraine by March 23 [8]
  • By March 12, 17k antiarmor missiles [9], 300 Javelins at least. 2000 more are coming? [10]
  • 45k Javelins and 12k of their launchers have so far been produced, 18+ countries have them [11]. 70k Stingers were made - [12]. 10k NLAWs were made.
  • Stingers and NLAWs are $38k. [13]. Javelin - $100k launcher, $78k missile. [14]
  • Patriot missiles - system is $1B, missile is $1-6M a pop. [15]
  • How equipment is moved from US based to Ukraine - [16]

Feeding Russia

  • 40% of Russia's economy is energy crops [17]
  • About $500M payments per day come from Europe - $19B in one month. This is because Europe takes about 50% of Russia's petro product
  • Same source sez - These countries should have no interest in allowing the price of oil to rise too high, because that will sharply accelerate the long-term transition to renewable energy.
  • Total export of Russian oil is about 5M barrels/day - [18]. Saudis can produce 2.2M more barrels per day within a month.
  • US imported 700k barrels/day from Russia- or about $70M/day. [19]

Strategy

  • How does a Stinger compare to a Patriot?
  • How does Patriot compare to a Buk?
  • How does Patriot compare to S400? S400 is apparently half the cost, and looks much better on paper. [20]
  • Patriots - too expensive and complicated for now? [21]
  • Flood of man-portable antiarmor [22]

Needs

  • From [23] - 9K33 Osa surface-to-air missile. [24]. 26 countries have them.
  • MiG 29 - $5-8M each - [25]. But the West shit its pants as it could be escalatory.
  • Buk missiles - [26].
  • S300 missile defense against aircraft and ballistic missiles - [27] System is $115M, and each missile is $1M. [28]