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*Air Filters+Hoses can be Dry Rotted | *Air Filters+Hoses can be Dry Rotted | ||
*Frontmost Hose is Air, Rear Hose is Fuel-In | *Frontmost Hose is Air, Rear Hose is Fuel-In | ||
==To-Do’s== | |||
*Find the [[PCB Schematic]] (If available) | |||
**With this information in mind (or with some [[PCB Reverse Engineering]] if it is NOT available) determine which components are shorted out/giving “bad” readings leading to burner shutoff | |||
***Main Suspects: | |||
****The [[Cad Eye]] | |||
****The Thermostat Dial | |||
****The Thermal Sensor (May be [[Bimetallic Strip]] based or perhaps a proper [[Pyrometer]] etc) | |||
==Spare Parts== | ==Spare Parts== | ||
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===Air/Fuel Hoses=== | ===Air/Fuel Hoses=== | ||
* | *I replaced ALL OF THEM with some 5/16in [[SAE 30R7 Hose]] | ||
**MIGHT have been a bit overkill, i need to read up on [[Fuel Hoses]] etc | |||
**Although to an extent most/all plastics will [[Dry Rot]] / Undergo [[Rubber Reversion]] eventually etc so (Custom Bent, Rigid) [[Metal Fuel Lines]] is the most durable solution | |||
***Short of [[Corrosion]] / [[Galvanic Corrosion]] concerns/situations where flexibility would be preferred in high vibration environments or something | |||
***Ease of recycling is another advantage over Modern Multilayer/ [[Metal Reinforced Hose]] | |||
===Control PCB Schematics=== | ===Control PCB Schematics=== | ||
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=External Links= | =External Links= | ||
*[https://www.grainger.com/ec/pdf/Dayton-Portable-Oil-Fired-Heaters-Manual.pdf The “[[Operating Instructions and Parts Manual]]” for the Dayton 3VE52 (and several other related models)] | |||
**Need to check if this is the OFFICIAL manual, or one made by Grainger etc | |||
**Either way it has useful information + part numbers | |||
**A Rudimentary [[Wiring Diagram]] was made available, but no [[PCB Schematics]] | |||
*[https://youtu.be/r_P58zIhnA4?si=KJxfEOuloyyX-IB3 A Video by the YouTube Channel “sixtyfiveford” Titled “Diesel Kerosene Forced Air Heater FIX EVERYTHING” ] ( ‘’’~22 Minute Watch’’’ ) | *[https://youtu.be/r_P58zIhnA4?si=KJxfEOuloyyX-IB3 A Video by the YouTube Channel “sixtyfiveford” Titled “Diesel Kerosene Forced Air Heater FIX EVERYTHING” ] ( ‘’’~22 Minute Watch’’’ ) | ||
**Good overview | **Good overview | ||
Latest revision as of 14:49, 2 December 2025
Basics
- A Portable Oil Fired Space Heater
- Often called “torpedo heaters”
- Electric Forced Air
Repair
- This has (Constand?) Spark Ignition, Photocell Based Flame Detection, and Vane Pump Air Compressor (~10 PSIg Max supposedly) based Siphon Sprayer for fuel delivery/atomization
- Check for Fan/Spark, if both are good it’s probably a Fuel and/or sensor issue
- Air Filters+Hoses can be Dry Rotted
- Frontmost Hose is Air, Rear Hose is Fuel-In
To-Do’s
- Find the PCB Schematic (If available)
- With this information in mind (or with some PCB Reverse Engineering if it is NOT available) determine which components are shorted out/giving “bad” readings leading to burner shutoff
- Main Suspects:
- The Cad Eye
- The Thermostat Dial
- The Thermal Sensor (May be Bimetallic Strip based or perhaps a proper Pyrometer etc)
- Main Suspects:
- With this information in mind (or with some PCB Reverse Engineering if it is NOT available) determine which components are shorted out/giving “bad” readings leading to burner shutoff
Spare Parts
Air Filters
Air/Fuel Hoses
- I replaced ALL OF THEM with some 5/16in SAE 30R7 Hose
- MIGHT have been a bit overkill, i need to read up on Fuel Hoses etc
- Although to an extent most/all plastics will Dry Rot / Undergo Rubber Reversion eventually etc so (Custom Bent, Rigid) Metal Fuel Lines is the most durable solution
- Short of Corrosion / Galvanic Corrosion concerns/situations where flexibility would be preferred in high vibration environments or something
- Ease of recycling is another advantage over Modern Multilayer/ Metal Reinforced Hose
Control PCB Schematics
Sensor
Spark Plug
Thermostat Dial
Tune Up Kit
Amazon
- An Amazon Listing for “ Pro-Parts PP204 HA3004 1/2" Rotor Kit and 70-054-0200 SP-KFA1005 Filter Kit for Reddy Desa All-Pro Remington Master Knipco Dayton Heaters” ( ‘’’~26 USD as of this edit’’’ ]
- Has just the Air Filters and the Vane Assembly
- All you really need, as O’reilly auto parts etc may have the hosing + a fuel filter could be hacked together from other Off The Shelf ones
Grainger
- User: Eric called Grainger
- The model their work has is old as hell and thus disconnected for the specific part numbers
- They did still have a “tune up kit” available
- For $269…
- It had:
- A New Spark Plug Assembly
- A New Rotor Assembly
- A New Brass Nozzle
- Some sort of Filter(s); they didn’t specify
Sourcing
Amazon
- An Amazon Listing for a “ Dayton 3VE52 Oil Fired Heater, 210 K BtuH 120 V” ( ‘’’~850 USD as of this edit’’’ )
Grainger
- A Grainger Listing for a DAYTON Portable Oil and Kerosene Torpedo Heater: Wheeled Mounted, 5,000 sq ft Heating Area ( Model Number “3VE52” )
- ~775.45 USD as of this edit
Internal Links
External Links
- The “Operating Instructions and Parts Manual” for the Dayton 3VE52 (and several other related models)
- Need to check if this is the OFFICIAL manual, or one made by Grainger etc
- Either way it has useful information + part numbers
- A Rudimentary Wiring Diagram was made available, but no PCB Schematics
- A Video by the YouTube Channel “sixtyfiveford” Titled “Diesel Kerosene Forced Air Heater FIX EVERYTHING” ( ‘’’~22 Minute Watch’’’ )
- Good overview
- Their main issue was a “Mouse House” blocking the main chamber (luckily the mouse had moved on lol), and a “stiff fan” which they relubricated with a Thin Oil. They chose Automatic Transmission Fluid ?
- A Video by the YouTube Channel “Joe’s Bus Barn” Titled “Dayton oil fired heater” ( ‘’’~13 Minute Watch’’’ )
- A YouTube Short by the YouTube Channel “DoItYourselfWithJoe” Titled “Torpedo Heater Repair”
- Showcases the Compressed Air Fuel Siphon Test