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*A Canister of [[Granulated Activated Carbon]] may be of use as well for “cleaning” any residual  
*A Canister of [[Granulated Activated Carbon]] may be of use as well for “cleaning” any residual  
*Finally for certain uses such as [[Supplied Air Respirators]] or [[SCUBA Tank Filling]] (or [[SCBA]] as well) verification of the Compressed Air’s cleanliness is also required
*Finally for certain uses such as [[Supplied Air Respirators]] or [[SCUBA Tank Filling]] (or [[SCBA]] as well) verification of the Compressed Air’s cleanliness is also required
**[[Air Systems International]] ‘s “Breather Box™️” is the COTS industry standard of sorts, although they aren’t TOO DIFFICULT to DIY
***Short of [[Liability]]/[[Traceability]] etc, especially for [[IDLH]] use
==Water Vapor==
*Drying can be done BEFORE compression, or after
*As of this edit, this page will largely focus on Post-Compression Water Vapor Removal (although feel free to add more info!)
===Post-Compression Water Vapor Removal===
*Several systems are possible, but mainly:
**[[Silica Gel]] (or other [[Desiccant]] ) Canisters
***Either a sensor, or [[Moisture Indicating Silica Gel]] are useful for this system to be able to determine when the media is Saturated and needs dried out
**Condensation Based Systems
***Depending on desired dryness, and local conditions, a system more akin to a [[Condensing Furnace]] may suffice
***Other systems may require submersion in cooling water (or some other [[Heat Transfer Fluid]] ) or use of a [[Vapor Compression Refrigeration]] system
**Hybrid systems can also be used, where a primitive condenser is used to “take some of the load off” of the desiccant
==Being able to use “standard” air==
*Due to the complexity/bulk, as well as COST of the systems, especially for (High Level) Drying, selecting and designing systems+procedures such that they can tolerate usage of unprocessed “straight out of the compressor” air is beneficial
*Furthermore from a [[Design for Component Failure]] / [[Anti-Fragility]] perspective, there may even be some advantage to having ALL compressed air lines be plumed in a way that can handle operation in a “wet” mode
===Compressed Air Plumbing (Wet vs Dry) ===
*A well designed compressed air tank will have a a [[Design for Cleaning]] -esque [[Cone Bottom Tank]] and a fitting allowing some means of drainage
**A 90 Degree Fitting and a simple [[Ball Valve]] can suffice
***This is a very loud process, and also typically sends a stream of (Potentially Rusty) [[PCW]] spewing (especially if it hasn’t been drained in a while) so AT MINIMUM having to face away from the operator, and having them wear safety glasses+hearing protection CAN WORK
****It should also be in an area where the PCW can be allowed to evaporate off (such as a concrete pad/inside etc, Rags/Oil Adsorbent Pads can also be used)
****Ideally though, some sort of [[Compressed Air Tank Vent Muffler]] would be used, and the PCW would be separated + sealed
**[[Automatic Compressed Air Tank Drains]] CAN be used
***Main issues are:
****Unless they have a pre-vent alarm/notification etc, it can catch people off guard (Although proper [[HAZCOM]] / a mention in the [[Sight Specific Safety Orientation]] (for all (new) workers, and any [[contractors]] ) could alleviate this, along with the aforementioned Muffler
****A more subtle one is the role Routine Manual Draining has in terms of incidentally adding a [[Visual Inspection]] / “Look, Smell, Listen” check to things.  Automated systems are convenient yes, but also can allow for forgetting of systems that would be better observed/maintained
*****Simply opening a ball valve (especially if it is designed in an [[Accesible]] Manner, ie Large Handle Ball Valve, not too close to the floor/covered in dirt etc) isn’t TOO HARD of a task too, so the need for automation isn’t that great (unless the site would be without people for long stretches of time)
*”Wet” Compressed Air Lines:
**Shall be sloped such that Condensate flows downhill to a central drain location, or at least flows under a [[Blowdown]] procedure sufficiently
**They also shall be designed to resist any sort of corrosion/clogging/[[Vapor Lock]] that can occur
*”Dry” Compressed Air Lines may have the advantage of simpler plumbing due to the pressurized gas not needing any sort of slope/special considerations
**Although as per earlier, from a [[Design for Component Failure]] / [[Anti-Fragility]] perspective, doing so anyways may be worthwhile
***If not however though, this may justify the cost for cleaning/drying systems and plays a role in that planning process/math
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*[[Compressed Air]]
**[[Compressed Air Storage]]
**[[Compressed Air Plumbing]]
**[[Compressed Air Hose]]
***[[Compressed Air Hose Reel]]
**[[Compressed Air Fittings]]
*[[Dry Nitrogen]]
**[[Dry Nitrogen vs Dry Compressed Air]]
**[[Open Source Pressurized Dry Storage Box]]


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Latest revision as of 14:57, 16 December 2025

Basics

Considerations

Preface

  • As stated previously, this page aims to largely cover Oil Sealed/Lubricated Piston Based Compressors
  • As the air exits most of these it contains Oil Mist and Water Vapor
  • The Oil Mist isn’t the WORST for most things, but can be problematic for some uses, in particular Supplied Air Respirators etc
  • The Water Vapor can introduce some issues in terms of Long Term Storage use, or especially later when it cools and forms condensate (which can lead to Vapor Lock / Steam Hammer type issues and other issues of a system intended to be Single Phase Flow becoming Two Phase Flow )

Oil Mist

Water Vapor

  • Drying can be done BEFORE compression, or after
  • As of this edit, this page will largely focus on Post-Compression Water Vapor Removal (although feel free to add more info!)

Post-Compression Water Vapor Removal

  • Several systems are possible, but mainly:
    • Silica Gel (or other Desiccant ) Canisters
    • Condensation Based Systems
    • Hybrid systems can also be used, where a primitive condenser is used to “take some of the load off” of the desiccant

Being able to use “standard” air

  • Due to the complexity/bulk, as well as COST of the systems, especially for (High Level) Drying, selecting and designing systems+procedures such that they can tolerate usage of unprocessed “straight out of the compressor” air is beneficial
  • Furthermore from a Design for Component Failure / Anti-Fragility perspective, there may even be some advantage to having ALL compressed air lines be plumed in a way that can handle operation in a “wet” mode

Compressed Air Plumbing (Wet vs Dry)

  • A well designed compressed air tank will have a a Design for Cleaning -esque Cone Bottom Tank and a fitting allowing some means of drainage
    • A 90 Degree Fitting and a simple Ball Valve can suffice
      • This is a very loud process, and also typically sends a stream of (Potentially Rusty) PCW spewing (especially if it hasn’t been drained in a while) so AT MINIMUM having to face away from the operator, and having them wear safety glasses+hearing protection CAN WORK
        • It should also be in an area where the PCW can be allowed to evaporate off (such as a concrete pad/inside etc, Rags/Oil Adsorbent Pads can also be used)
        • Ideally though, some sort of Compressed Air Tank Vent Muffler would be used, and the PCW would be separated + sealed
    • Automatic Compressed Air Tank Drains CAN be used
      • Main issues are:
        • Unless they have a pre-vent alarm/notification etc, it can catch people off guard (Although proper HAZCOM / a mention in the Sight Specific Safety Orientation (for all (new) workers, and any contractors ) could alleviate this, along with the aforementioned Muffler
        • A more subtle one is the role Routine Manual Draining has in terms of incidentally adding a Visual Inspection / “Look, Smell, Listen” check to things. Automated systems are convenient yes, but also can allow for forgetting of systems that would be better observed/maintained
          • Simply opening a ball valve (especially if it is designed in an Accesible Manner, ie Large Handle Ball Valve, not too close to the floor/covered in dirt etc) isn’t TOO HARD of a task too, so the need for automation isn’t that great (unless the site would be without people for long stretches of time)
  • ”Wet” Compressed Air Lines:
    • Shall be sloped such that Condensate flows downhill to a central drain location, or at least flows under a Blowdown procedure sufficiently
    • They also shall be designed to resist any sort of corrosion/clogging/Vapor Lock that can occur
  • ”Dry” Compressed Air Lines may have the advantage of simpler plumbing due to the pressurized gas not needing any sort of slope/special considerations
    • Although as per earlier, from a Design for Component Failure / Anti-Fragility perspective, doing so anyways may be worthwhile
      • If not however though, this may justify the cost for cleaning/drying systems and plays a role in that planning process/math

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