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*A high pressure steel tank is about $500 - [http://www.tek-diver-shop.de/scuba-tanks/tanks-1-50-liters:::19_84.html?language=en]
*A high pressure steel tank is about $500 - [http://www.tek-diver-shop.de/scuba-tanks/tanks-1-50-liters:::19_84.html?language=en]
*The simplest tank that can be used is a steel tank for up to 200 bar. This appears to be the lowest cost option. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_tank#Type_I]
*The simplest tank that can be used is a steel tank for up to 200 bar. This appears to be the lowest cost option. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_tank#Type_I]
:*Standard tanks are 55" high and 9" wide. with 45x9 inch usable size. [http://www.tek-diver-shop.de/scuba-tanks/tanks-1-50-liters:::19_84.html?language=en 50L?] - about 12 gallon, yes, 50L. If 200 atmospheres, that is 2400 gallon equivalent, or capable of storing
:*Standard tanks are 55" high and 9" wide. with 45x9 inch usable size. [http://www.tek-diver-shop.de/scuba-tanks/tanks-1-50-liters:::19_84.html?language=en 50L?] - about 12 gallon, yes, 50L. If 200 atmospheres, that is 2400 gallon equivalent. 4 of these store 10000 gallons - 1.7 gallon gasoline equivalent - but the efficiency of a hydrogen engine is 2x that of gasoline, so it's effectively 3.4 gallons by comparison. That is acceptable for a microcar, though cylinder weight is 143 each or 572 lb for the tanks themselves - a significant tradeoff for a 750 lb microcar. In the first iteration, a microcar could use 1 of these as a proof of concept for a 100 mile designed range at 750 lb of weight.


=Storage Tank Suppliers=
=Storage Tank Suppliers=

Revision as of 22:05, 27 January 2018

  • Electrolyzers can produce hydrogen at pressure, so a compressor is not needed.

Calculations

  • Compare to propane tank, 1000 gal, 100 PSI -

High Pressure Hydrogen

  • A high pressure steel tank is about $500 - [2]
  • The simplest tank that can be used is a steel tank for up to 200 bar. This appears to be the lowest cost option. [3]
  • Standard tanks are 55" high and 9" wide. with 45x9 inch usable size. 50L? - about 12 gallon, yes, 50L. If 200 atmospheres, that is 2400 gallon equivalent. 4 of these store 10000 gallons - 1.7 gallon gasoline equivalent - but the efficiency of a hydrogen engine is 2x that of gasoline, so it's effectively 3.4 gallons by comparison. That is acceptable for a microcar, though cylinder weight is 143 each or 572 lb for the tanks themselves - a significant tradeoff for a 750 lb microcar. In the first iteration, a microcar could use 1 of these as a proof of concept for a 100 mile designed range at 750 lb of weight.

Storage Tank Suppliers

  • 700 bar, 20 gallon - [4]. RFQ submitted 1/27/18
  • In-ground storage, 2200 PSI - 14"x40' - [5]
  • Low, medium, and high pressure storage options - [6]
  • Pictures of storage tanks - [7]

Cryogenic Storage

  • Ultra High Density
  • Can be done using a Delwar, a pure hydrogen gas source, and a cheap cryocooler
  • A diy cryocooler could possibly be made to reduce costs further

Storage as a Synthesized Fuel

  • Convert to Methane by the Sabatier Reaction
  • That can be compressed/liquified as is or it could be further converted into other fuels
  • Methanol can be made from methane via the following process Listed Here
  • Dimethyl Ether can be made from Methanol This Details How
  • Dimethyl Ether Can be Catalytically Converted to Hydrocarbons such as Gasoline This Details How
  • Hydrogen + Carbon Monoxide can be directly converted to hydrocarbons via the Fischer Tropsch Process

Links

  • This reports the cost of tanks at low-thousands scale for a car - [8]
  • Energy.gov state of art technology report - [9]
  • In an open source economy, these costs make hydrogen storage feasible at today's prices - deployable via community-supported manufacturing.

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