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It seems that precision is the key. There is a Basket of needs. Anyone can produce. Community needs are addressed, such as milk, coffee, and steel. Once assured, anyone can make more $ by selling to external markets. External market can be fiat, or other Abundace Money systems - once again backed by transparent, documented capacity. Easy algorithm must be used. The project would be to define this formula. This has to do better than banks printing money out of thin air- which is completely debauched but still works. The working principle is the same in the mainstream economy: extreme production allows printing of money from thin air because there is a lot of productive value. | |||
= Recommendation for OSE v1 / v2 / v3 = | = Recommendation for OSE v1 / v2 / v3 = | ||
Latest revision as of 07:33, 17 March 2026
Non inflationary money of unlimited supply.
OSE Economic Sketch: Reserve Currency vs Productive-Capacity Money
| Model | Basis of Currency | Strengths | Weaknesses | Relevance to OSE |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| State Fiat / Reserve Currency | Tax authority, legal tender status, military-political power, financial system depth | Universally accepted, liquid, easy to transact, familiar accounting | Detached from local productive reality, inflationary politics, external dependence, mission drift | Useful as bootstrap layer, but does not express OSE productive sovereignty |
| Commodity Money | Scarce physical asset such as gold or silver | Hard to inflate, familiar historical precedent | Poor fit for modern productive complexity, deflationary bias, weak link to actual useful output | Not ideal for a build-and-produce civilization project |
| Mutual Credit | Members extend credit to one another within a network | Good for internal trade, no need for outside bank money, scales with trust | Hard to govern at large scale, default risk, requires tight accounting discipline | Strong candidate for early internal exchange |
| Labor-Time Currency | Currency issued based on labor hours | Intuitive fairness, values contribution directly | Ignores differences in skill, capital intensity, quality, and strategic value | Useful as partial accounting layer, weak as sole currency |
| Productive-Capacity-Backed Currency | Currency issued against documented ability to produce real goods/services | Aligns money with real economy, rewards builders, can be transparent and auditable | Hard valuation problem, risk of over-issuing based on optimistic capacity, requires strong governance and measurement | Best fit for OSE if implemented conservatively |
| Inventory / Output-Backed Currency | Currency redeemable for specific goods, energy, housing, food, machine time, etc. | Strong tie to real output, easier to audit than abstract capacity, builds trust | Less flexible, can become fragmented across product classes, redemption logistics matter | Excellent for early-stage OSE internal/external exchange |
| Energy-Backed Currency | Claims tied to kWh or fuel-equivalent energy delivered | Objective metric, civilization-relevant base layer | Energy is not the whole economy; low-information measure for high-value work | Useful as one reserve metric, not complete money system |
| Basket-Backed Civic Currency | Currency backed by a basket such as food, housing days, kWh, machine hours, education hours | Diversified, grounded in actual life support systems, more stable than single-asset backing | More complex accounting and governance | Probably the strongest long-term design for OSE |
Core Design Question
A viable OSE currency should not be backed by ideology. It should be backed by documented capacity to deliver real value on demand.
Abundance Money: Strong Version vs Weak Version
| Version | Definition | Outcome |
|---|---|---|
| Weak Version | Agents print money because they believe they are productive | Collapse through self-serving issuance, inflation, loss of trust |
| Strong Version | Agents earn issuance rights through audited productive capacity, transparent books, and enforceable redemption | Possible basis for a real productive currency |
What "Productive Capacity" Must Mean
| Dimension | Description | Example |
|---|---|---|
| Installed Capacity | What physical capital exists and is operable | CNC torch table, sawmill, brick press, solar array |
| Human Capacity | What skilled labor is actually available | 6 certified welders, 3 design engineers, 12 apprentices |
| Input Access | Whether raw materials and supply chains are secured | Steel inventory, lumber contracts, seed stock |
| Throughput Capacity | How much output can be delivered per unit time | 2 houses per 2 months, 10 battery packs per month |
| Reliability | Whether the output is repeatable and documented | Historical build logs, defect rates, on-time delivery |
| Redemption Capacity | Whether currency holders can claim real goods/services without delay | Guaranteed redemption into housing days, machine hours, food, kWh |
Issuance Rule for Productive-Capacity Money
| Rule Component | Conservative Design |
|---|---|
| Issuance Base | Only against already-demonstrated productive capacity, not aspirational forecasts |
| Haircut | Issue only a fraction of estimated value, such as 10 percent of provable deliverable output |
| Audit Trail | Public documentation of assets, skills, throughput, inputs, and historical delivery |
| Redemption | Currency redeemable for defined goods/services from the productive base |
| Expiration / Review | Issuance authority periodically re-evaluated based on current capacity |
| Governance | Multi-party review, not unilateral self-issuance |
| Default Handling | Clear protocol if productive promises cannot be fulfilled |
MJ notes - Issuance extent: minimal that allows for exchange. Dilemma: only hyperdiversified value generators admired leaders need very little money. Most people may need more money than 10%. Solution: extreme production, so that 10% is a large number. Example: a person makes $1M. They can coin $100k. But they sell $1M. But where does Seed Money come from? It must be from a Social Contract of Abunance: such as, I commit to generating significant, lasting value. Value is cleared simply by production. There are agreed upon Quotes of Universal Necessity. People produce against these, voluntarily and transparently. If we run out of things to produce, we produce surplus, which is ok if product is long-life.
OSE-Appropriate Monetary Stack
| Layer | Recommended Form | Purpose |
|---|---|---|
| Layer 1 | USD or existing fiat | External trade, taxes, interoperability with present economy |
| Layer 2 | Internal mutual credit ledger | Day-to-day exchange inside trusted network |
| Layer 3 | Output-backed vouchers | Claims on concrete goods/services such as housing, machine time, energy, food |
| Layer 4 | Productive-capacity reserve accounting | Strategic issuance based on audited productive power |
| Layer 5 | Long-term basket-backed civic currency | Mature stage money tied to core life-support and production basket |
It seems that precision is the key. There is a Basket of needs. Anyone can produce. Community needs are addressed, such as milk, coffee, and steel. Once assured, anyone can make more $ by selling to external markets. External market can be fiat, or other Abundace Money systems - once again backed by transparent, documented capacity. Easy algorithm must be used. The project would be to define this formula. This has to do better than banks printing money out of thin air- which is completely debauched but still works. The working principle is the same in the mainstream economy: extreme production allows printing of money from thin air because there is a lot of productive value.
Recommendation for OSE v1 / v2 / v3
| Scale | Recommended Monetary Approach | Reason |
|---|---|---|
| OSE v1 (24 people) | Use USD externally, plus internal ledger and output vouchers | Simplicity and trust matter more than monetary novelty |
| OSE v2 (240 people) | Add mutual credit and limited output-backed instruments | Enough scale to support internal exchange and redemption markets |
| OSE v3 (2400 people) | Consider basket-backed productive currency with audited issuance | Large enough economy to sustain real monetary sovereignty |
Main Risks of Abundance Money
| Risk | Description | Mitigation |
|---|---|---|
| Self-Delusion | People overestimate productive power | Require historical performance data and third-party review |
| Political Capture | Issuance becomes favoritism | Transparent rules, public ledger, rotating oversight |
| Non-Redemption | Currency holders cannot claim real value | Hard redemption obligations and issuance caps |
| Complexity | System too hard to understand or use | Start with simple vouchers and ledger tools |
| Fragmentation | Too many local currencies reduce usability | Maintain convertibility and clear accounting to external fiat |
Bottom Line
The correct answer is not to rely forever on legacy reserve currencies, and not to fantasize about unconstrained abundance printing.
The serious path is:
- use existing fiat for external interoperability;
- build internal mutual credit for trusted exchange;
- issue vouchers redeemable in actual OSE goods and services;
- only later create a broader currency backed by audited productive capacity and a basket of real outputs.
That is how abundance becomes economically credible instead of rhetorical.