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*60% efficient, Livermore [https://www.techbriefs.com/component/content/article/27739-harmonic-air-motor-offers-very-high-efficiency#:~:text=The%20Harmonic%20Air%20Motor%20developed,be%20manufactured%20at%20lower%20cost.]. Implies standard air motors are 10-20% efficient. But even with that - that is good.
 
*Compressor efficiency calculation, hard core - [https://www.jmcampbell.com/tip-of-the-month/2015/07/how-to-estimate-compressor-efficiency/]
*Compressors are 60% efficiency and up [https://www.airsupply.co.uk/blogs/how-to-calculate-compressor-efficiency/]
*Anecdotal - 7% efficient [https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/n1192/compressed_air_engine_a_viable_solution_or_not/]
*1/2 to 2 hp drum mixers [https://dynamixinc.com/tank-types/drum-mixers/]
*30 CFM to 1 hp [https://fawcettco.com/drum-mixers/]
*28 cfm/hp [https://www.airbestpractices.com/system-assessments/compressor-controls/small-piston-air-motors-save-big-energy-while-ensuring-safety]
*1/2 hp specs - [https://21306865.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/21306865/DS0%20619-4%20(.50%20hp%206%20Cylinder%20Air%20Motor%20-%202019).pdf]. 1.4 cfm @90 PSI with 200 rpm.
*This one claims air motor piston - 40-50% efficient [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=what+is+the+efficiency+of+a+drum+mixer+piston+air+motor+such+as+circle+dynamics+motor&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5]. But if you include compressor - it is another half of this for 20%. So in practice - want 8 hours of night power? Need 300W - fans, 250W HD desktop, etc. 12W for LED bulbs.
*1/3 hp motor $300 [https://www.alleghenyyork.com/wps/portal/c/seal-components/!ut/p/z1/jY_LDoJADEW_hqW0g6_RHTGK8jASY8TZGFQYSIAhwyiJX--oKxMNdtfe095bYBABq-JbzmOViyoudH9go6MfDgfEG1hr6i_GGLo02NGthbgew74LYFrGH2UjuC9g7k_CpecQdDaBhSvXmY-I7RFE8kxgyWAWcGB1rLJeXqUColqKy_WsGu3Pui6wPzLwQpze79rVqU-1mUzSRCbSvEo9zpSqm6mBBrZta3IheJGYZ1Ea-G0lE42C6JOEuozufrrdlHvaPABsfCEt/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?itemNumber=W16-R]
*1/2 hp is $500 [https://www.ebay.com/itm/303335987408?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&google_free_listing_action=view_item&srsltid=AfmBOoqc6x7jpKH-9gG1M2xB6OuVcmgccG6NqUJ22Y6SdG6NaK0V38l08b0&gQT=1


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Revision as of 19:00, 19 May 2025

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  • This one says 70% efficient - really? [11]
  • CFM of 20 gets 0.5 hp about. 1 cu m is 35 cf. 1 cu m at 190 atm is 7000 cf, at 20 cfm gives 350 minutes or almost 6 hours.
  • Piston type mixer motor - 7 cfm, 0.2 hp - $250 - [12].
    • One k-type cylinder gets me 35 minutes of this power. That's at least a start, but too short duration for practical use. Adiabatic.
  • 14 cfm gets me the right power - 0.4 hp or 300W.
  • 17 cfm - 0.33 hp - 250 W - [13]

Power Out

  • 1 cubic meter of air storage - at 200atm - gets you 7000 cfm at stp. Since we need to save 10 atm to run, have 190 atm available - so 5% negligible loss - most is usable air. This is 500 minutes of air - 8 hours - of 300W - or 2.4kW hrs! This is just plain adiabatic.
    • One Type K tank gets 120Whrs.
  • Thus, having access to 1 cu m of stored air - is key - for an inefficient storage system.
  • Going to isothermal - we are 2.5x better
  • Compressed air with heat would be the way to go - where we store the thermal energy of compression via a heat exchanger.

Pipe

  • 2" pipe - 10' - is $33. It is about 6l volume for 10'. 8 of these equal a Type K cylinder in volume. Same price.
  • Metals depot - 12" schedule 40 pipe, 6' long, is $726. That is 1/2 cu meter. Getting there for storage - but working pressure is 370 psi and burst is 3000 psi. Needs reinforcement.
  • How about 12" PVC - 3D printed, reinforced with fiberglass winding? That sounds like a possible idea for 2000 PSI air tanks on the cheap. $100 for pipe, then winding after that.
  • Or - Type IV pressure vessels, all composite, from HDPE liner and wound with 500,000 psi+ tensile strength fiber (glass or carbon)