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== EFI Controller Comparison for Open V-Twin Engine Project == | |||
Selecting the right electronic fuel injection (EFI) controller is critical to the success and reproducibility of an open-source engine platform. Below is a comparison of leading open-source (and semi-open) EFI solutions tested or proposed for the 38 HP EFI V-twin project. | |||
=== ✅ microRusEFI — Recommended for Long-Term Modular Design === | |||
microRusEFI is a modern, compact, fully open-source EFI platform based on the STM32 microcontroller family and the rusEFI firmware ecosystem. It is our preferred EFI controller for the V-twin engine project due to its combination of modern electronics, flexibility, and advanced control features. | |||
Specific advantages: | |||
* Fully open hardware and firmware (unlike Megasquirt MS2/MS3) | |||
* Native support for sequential injection and logic-level coil control (ideal for a twin) | |||
* Real-time logging, self-tuning integration, and rusEFI_console GUI support | |||
* Scalable to future designs (e.g. turbocharging, knock sensing, CAN bus, boost control) | |||
* Compact PCB ideal for sealed, vibration-resistant engine bay installation | |||
'''Ideal for''': Builders seeking a long-term EFI development platform with full control over every parameter and diagnostic output. | |||
[https://github.com/rusefi/microRusEfi → GitHub Project: rusefi/microRusEfi] | |||
=== 🟦 Speeduino — Excellent for Rapid Prototyping & Education === | |||
Speeduino is a DIY-friendly EFI solution based on the Arduino Mega platform. It has a large grassroots community and is well-documented for use in 2- to 4-cylinder engines. | |||
Specific advantages: | |||
* Easy to build and modify (through-hole components, modular) | |||
* Low cost and widely available kits and premade units | |||
* Compatible with TunerStudio tuning software | |||
* Works well in batch-fire configurations or semi-sequential | |||
'''Limitations''': | |||
* Less robust for high-RPM or complex load scenarios | |||
* Lacks built-in knock sensing, CAN bus, or advanced closed-loop controls | |||
* Injector timing and dwell control are less precise at high speeds | |||
'''Ideal for''': Entry-level EFI users, education projects, or minimal batch-fire builds. | |||
[https://speeduino.com Speeduino Homepage] | |||
=== 🔵 Megasquirt MS2/MS3 — Feature-Rich but Proprietary Firmware === | |||
Megasquirt is a widely-used aftermarket EFI system with support for a large number of engine configurations. MS3 in particular offers full sequential injection, CAN, boost, and idle control. | |||
Considerations: | |||
* Closed firmware, limited modifiability | |||
* Higher cost (~$300–600) | |||
* Community support is broad but geared toward automotive enthusiasts | |||
'''Ideal for''': Users who want a tested, feature-rich system but don’t require open-source firmware. | |||
=== 📘 Summary Table === | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
! Feature !! microRusEFI !! Speeduino !! Megasquirt MS2/MS3 | |||
|- | |||
| Open Source (HW & FW) || ✅ Fully || ✅ Mostly || ❌ Firmware closed | |||
|- | |||
| Sequential Injection Ready || ✅ Yes || ⚠️ Limited || ✅ Yes | |||
|- | |||
| Cost || 💲💲 || 💲 || 💲💲💲 | |||
|- | |||
| Tuning Software || TunerStudio, rusEFI tools || TunerStudio || TunerStudio | |||
|- | |||
| Diagnostics + Expansion || ✅ Advanced || ⚠️ Basic || ✅ Advanced | |||
|- | |||
| Ease of Use (Beginner) || ⚠️ Moderate || ✅ Easy || ⚠️ Moderate | |||
|} | |||
microRusEFI is the recommended platform for the 38 HP open-source V-twin due to its blend of modern electronics, open licensing, sequential control, and growing developer ecosystem. It represents a forward-compatible choice for open manufacturing ecosystems and resilient engine design. | |||
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EFI Controller Comparison for Open V-Twin Engine Project
Selecting the right electronic fuel injection (EFI) controller is critical to the success and reproducibility of an open-source engine platform. Below is a comparison of leading open-source (and semi-open) EFI solutions tested or proposed for the 38 HP EFI V-twin project.
✅ microRusEFI — Recommended for Long-Term Modular Design
microRusEFI is a modern, compact, fully open-source EFI platform based on the STM32 microcontroller family and the rusEFI firmware ecosystem. It is our preferred EFI controller for the V-twin engine project due to its combination of modern electronics, flexibility, and advanced control features.
Specific advantages:
- Fully open hardware and firmware (unlike Megasquirt MS2/MS3)
- Native support for sequential injection and logic-level coil control (ideal for a twin)
- Real-time logging, self-tuning integration, and rusEFI_console GUI support
- Scalable to future designs (e.g. turbocharging, knock sensing, CAN bus, boost control)
- Compact PCB ideal for sealed, vibration-resistant engine bay installation
Ideal for: Builders seeking a long-term EFI development platform with full control over every parameter and diagnostic output.
→ GitHub Project: rusefi/microRusEfi
🟦 Speeduino — Excellent for Rapid Prototyping & Education
Speeduino is a DIY-friendly EFI solution based on the Arduino Mega platform. It has a large grassroots community and is well-documented for use in 2- to 4-cylinder engines.
Specific advantages:
- Easy to build and modify (through-hole components, modular)
- Low cost and widely available kits and premade units
- Compatible with TunerStudio tuning software
- Works well in batch-fire configurations or semi-sequential
Limitations:
- Less robust for high-RPM or complex load scenarios
- Lacks built-in knock sensing, CAN bus, or advanced closed-loop controls
- Injector timing and dwell control are less precise at high speeds
Ideal for: Entry-level EFI users, education projects, or minimal batch-fire builds.
🔵 Megasquirt MS2/MS3 — Feature-Rich but Proprietary Firmware
Megasquirt is a widely-used aftermarket EFI system with support for a large number of engine configurations. MS3 in particular offers full sequential injection, CAN, boost, and idle control.
Considerations:
- Closed firmware, limited modifiability
- Higher cost (~$300–600)
- Community support is broad but geared toward automotive enthusiasts
Ideal for: Users who want a tested, feature-rich system but don’t require open-source firmware.
📘 Summary Table
| Feature | microRusEFI | Speeduino | Megasquirt MS2/MS3 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Open Source (HW & FW) | ✅ Fully | ✅ Mostly | ❌ Firmware closed |
| Sequential Injection Ready | ✅ Yes | ⚠️ Limited | ✅ Yes |
| Cost | 💲💲 | 💲 | 💲💲💲 |
| Tuning Software | TunerStudio, rusEFI tools | TunerStudio | TunerStudio |
| Diagnostics + Expansion | ✅ Advanced | ⚠️ Basic | ✅ Advanced |
| Ease of Use (Beginner) | ⚠️ Moderate | ✅ Easy | ⚠️ Moderate |
microRusEFI is the recommended platform for the 38 HP open-source V-twin due to its blend of modern electronics, open licensing, sequential control, and growing developer ecosystem. It represents a forward-compatible choice for open manufacturing ecosystems and resilient engine design.