Ringo Phone

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Intro

Open source? GPL license. Releases schematics, but no circuit files or BOMs.

https://www.circuitmess.com/ringo/

It's open source and based on Arduino/ESP32

(https://photos.app.goo.gl/sTMNhRLMBC2NaBL99)

https://github.com/CircuitMess/CircuitMess-Ringo

Kickstarter - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/albertgajsak/makerphone-an-educational-diy-mobile-phone

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Communications

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Hi Albert,

I'm the founder of Open Source Ecology - please see my TED Talk on the Global Village Construction Set -https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization

We work in open hardware. Are you open to collaborating with us on a version of MakerPhone that can be built using our open source CNC circuit mill? We would love to create a deeper DIY product which doesn't rely on custom circuit boards outside of ones that can be created with open source tooling and off-the-shelf components. I think this will drive sales for your existing Ringo Phone, which is professionally kitted as opposed to being made from scratch. So we could both benefit from this collaboration. We could make simpler kits that require more work, but would be a good use case of our open source CNC circuit mill.

If you're open to this - please email me at marcin@opensourceecology.org

Thanks, Marcin

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Albert Gajšak <albert@circuitmess.com> Wed, Jun 24, 3:50 AM to me

Hi Marcin,

Albert here from CircuitMess, you sent me a message via kickstarter on our campaign for MAKERphone.

What you do looks interesting, can you please tell me more about how you envisioned our cooperation?

- Albert from CircuitMess

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Thank you for responding. Yes, I can clarify. It appears in your Kickstarter that you have a completely DIY-producible phone. It appears that it has all common-off-the-shelf (COTS) components, outside of the main circuit board and casing - which means that it can be replicated relatively easily including DIY milling of the main board with existing open source circuit mills, such as our own. It also appears that the main board can be soldered with its components all by hand. Is that an accurate assessment?

In the Ringo Phone kit, you appear to have shifted to some custom circuit boards, which means that these are no longer available readily as COTS parts. What I'm observing is that the Ringo Phone is no longer DIY producible - not DIY CNC millable, the parts on the main board are too small for hand soldering. Plus, your secondary circuit boards appear to be custom. Is my assessment accurate?

In any case, we are interested in running workshops on Maker Phone, where paying participants get an immersion experience in building it using a completely open source toolchain . This includes building our circuit mill from scratch, using it to mill, drill, and cut out the Maker Phone, and then solder all the basic components and secondary circuit boards. We would also 3D print the casing with our D3D 3D Printer, and thus provide an amazing breakthrough experience for participants as they discover their maker nature.

This would be an amazing combination that builds upon our open source toolchains - and your awesome phone design. Since we do everything openly, you would of course have access to run build workshops like we, if that fits with your goals.

What I am asking is thus - are you willing to help us convert your MAKERPhone or Ringo Phone into an existing open source toolchain-producible version? The idea is that this would add value to your work. For us, we could run workshops and offer MAKERphones. For you, that would probably mean more visibility of Ringo Phone, which will likely drive more sales for you.

However, the disclaimer is that we are beyond open source - we run what we call Distributive Enterprise. This means we are publishing everything to the world as we run our business. We do this because we believe that we can shift the culture and transcend artificial scarcity - by not practicing artificial scarcity ourselves first. So we publish our product designs - and enterprise designs - openly. We offer immersion workshops for those who want the fast track. We also sell products, and train entrepreneurs to start enterprise. The combination of education/production has been working well for us as a business model, and we are convinced that such a model is scalable as culture can shift from consumerism to a culture of makers .So for the relationship between OSE and Ringo Phone to work - you'd have to be willing to share your designs and collaborate - encouraging others to 'compete' with you - which we believe is the true definition of free enterprise.

If you are on the same page regarding distributing wealth by open source design and enterprise, then we can collaborate on this. It would require that you would provide complete design files for MAKERPhone in open formats, or help us generate them if you don't have them - via remote collaboration at this time due to COVID. We would then develop all the documentation for producing the CNC mills, MAKERPhones, and an operations manual for running the build workshops. Does this sound like an interesting value proposition, or is this not consistent with your goals and operations? I thing both sides can benefit by added exposure and sales. It requires your endorsement as we are not interested in reverse engineering your design or competing with you - but collaborating so life is easier on both sides.

Thanks, Marcin

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Hi Marcin,

Thanks for your email. Sorry, I didn't manage to reply earlier because I was working on a new kickstarter that recently went live:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/albertgajsak/circuitmess-stem-box

Please, check it out and give it a share if you like our work.

About the collaboration: MAKERphone on kickstarter was just a prototype. Currently, this project is called Ringo and has our custom made pcbs with SMT components. The device cannot be made or cannot work in a different way.

I support your mission, but I do not see any real benefit for our company here in terms of giving you the gerbers for makerphone. Maybe there is some other way we can collaborate. Do you have any other ideas?

I've cc-ed my colleague @Doris Brala to this email. @Doris Brala do you have any ideas on this?

Thanks

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