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==Bed Plate==
==Bed Plate==
===Aluminum===
===Aluminum===
*All with hefty shipping - 6" $3- [https://www.ebay.com/itm/125-1-8-Aluminum-Sheet-Plate-6061-6-x-6/232553656746?hash=item36254731aa:g:qw0AAOSwNFVZhTfO], 12" $20 with ship for 1 [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-125-Aluminum-Sheet-Plate-12-x-12-6061/281077978843?hash=item41718d96db:g:Nt8AAOxy9hBRyRBP], 8x16 $24 [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-x-8-x-16-Aluminum-Plate-125-5052-Aluminum/222644124299?hash=item33d69fba8b:g:8REAAOSwwE5WY0bs], '''8x8 $13''' [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-x-8-x-8-Aluminum-Plate-125-5052-Aluminum/322742298484?hash=item4b24f0a774:g:8REAAOSwwE5WY0bs] -
*All with hefty shipping - 6" $3- [https://www.ebay.com/itm/125-1-8-Aluminum-Sheet-Plate-6061-6-x-6/232553656746?hash=item36254731aa:g:qw0AAOSwNFVZhTfO]  
*12" $20 with ship for 1 [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-125-Aluminum-Sheet-Plate-12-x-12-6061/281077978843?hash=item41718d96db:g:Nt8AAOxy9hBRyRBP], 8x16 $24 [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-x-8-x-16-Aluminum-Plate-125-5052-Aluminum/222644124299?hash=item33d69fba8b:g:8REAAOSwwE5WY0bs], '''8x8 $13''' [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-x-8-x-8-Aluminum-Plate-125-5052-Aluminum/322742298484?hash=item4b24f0a774:g:8REAAOSwwE5WY0bs] -
*'''24" $43''' [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-125-Aluminum-Sheet-Plate-24-x-24-3003/283237615189?hash=item41f2470655:g:jgkAAMXQQtNRyRDY]. $10 per 12" bed, or $5 per 8" bed
*'''24" $43''' [https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-125-Aluminum-Sheet-Plate-24-x-24-3003/283237615189?hash=item41f2470655:g:jgkAAMXQQtNRyRDY]. $10 per 12" bed, or $5 per 8" bed
*McMaster stock - $13 + SH for 8" - [https://www.mcmaster.com/89015k239]
*McMaster stock - $13 + SH for 8" - [https://www.mcmaster.com/89015k239]

Revision as of 01:24, 28 April 2019

About

  • OSE Reasons for using a nichrome 120V bed are scalability and lower cost for large beds.
  • Reason for DIY nichrome beds is clear for larger beds on the basis of cost.
  • Sound design is required a safe method:
  • Do not use parts that melt at low temperature. Thus, use Nichrome C wire and braided fiberglass insulation.
  • For connection, use high temp 200C wire, and simply wind them around each other. But wait... How to Connect Wire to Nichrome Heaters.
  • Metal, glass, ceramic have been used successfully as heated beds.
  • Ceramic - [1]
  • Granite success and looks good -[2]
  • Ceramic Floor Tile with Pictures - [3]. Addresses the melting of edges - edges remain cool.

Sourcing

Bed Plate

Aluminum

  • All with hefty shipping - 6" $3- [4]
  • 12" $20 with ship for 1 [5], 8x16 $24 [6], 8x8 $13 [7] -
  • 24" $43 [8]. $10 per 12" bed, or $5 per 8" bed
  • McMaster stock - $13 + SH for 8" - [9]

Steel

  • This would be interesting to CNC torch on a waterbed from 8" stock - or just cut with abrasive metal cutoff. Steel is under $1/lb - with a 1 square foot sheet weighing $5. So $5 is the baseline cost for 12" beds.
  • If steel is torched, this should be done with water cooling to address warping
  • Baseline cost is $5 vs. $10 for aluminum.

Tile

  • Tile is a winner in terms of cost at $1/sf. 77 cents at 0.29" thick - [10].
  • Granite - $2.50 - [11]
  • Polished ceramic tile 69 cents - [12]
  • Marble - 0.4" thick - [13]
  • Porcelain - $1 - 9/32" thick - [14]
  • 8x8 inch quarry tile, 1/2" thick - $1 - [15]
  • 1/2" slate - $1.29 [16]

Pad

  • Ultimaker beds are 500W - - [17]
  • 8" bed on amazon is $84. [18]
  • 8" bed on Aliexpress is $45 - [19]
  • Expensive 12" on amazon - [20]
  • Silicone rubber sheet - to 450F - [21] - $6/sf
  • 10x10" heatbed aliexpress 500W - $10 - [22]
  • 200W 8x8, $13 - [23]

Silicone Rubber Sheet

  • Silicone rubber sheet - 20x20", 1 mm - $10 - [24]
  • McMaster - <$5/sf for 1/32" thick - [25]

Double Sided Tape

Single Sided Tape

  • Kapton tape, 4"x100ft - $25 - [27]
  • Enough for 300 small beds (4"), or 33 12" beds.

Coated Nichrome Wire

Uncoated Nichrome Wire

  • Need 30 Ohm resistance for the length of wire at 120V to get 480W, for P=IV, V=IR, I=V/R -> P=V^2/R = 120^2/30 according to Electrical Power Calculator.

High Temp Nichrome in Fiberglass

  • Claim of 1200C - [28]

Sleeving

  • 20 cents/foot, 1/16" ID - [29]
  • Wire sleeving - [30] - 15 cents/foot for 16 gauge.

Rope Heater

  • Up to 500C - [31]. Description: helical winding around core material, then insulating sleeve.

Helical Nichrome Coil

  • Can be stretched - [32]

Carbon Fiber

  • Carbon fiber is also used as a heating wire - [33]. Interesting. But it appears it can only do 15W/meter? Why is it limited? Limitation appears to be encapsulating materials - [34]

Example of a DIY Nichrome Heater

  • Idea is to wind Nichrome around an inner core, as otherwise, the heater element gets too long. That is just a practical consideration for these types of heaters if running high voltage.
  • Here is 31 ga and 19 feet - for 90W - at 115V. [35]

Nichromeheater1.jpg

  • Here is another at 12V, with 16 gauge - 10' long, going up only to 225C. [36]

Nichromeheater2.jpg.

Derivative for OSE + Calculations

  • 31 ga, 19 feet long above
  • Power to bring 31 ga up to 2000F is under 4A - so with full 500W, 31 ga wire would probably blow up. [37]. Need to go thicker to handle the power.
  • See Electronics Stack Exchange - [38]

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